On Oct 4, 7:30*pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > Frozen beef and chicken broths, fresh celery, carrots, and onions.
> > Frozen green beans, corn, peas. *Fresh parsley. *A bit of tomato
> > powder. A can of beef purchased in Amishland last October. *Poured
> > over chopped leftover linguine. *Fresh-baked bread. * *Will schlep to
> > The Widow Dorothy's in 45 minutes to enjoy while we watch "The
> > Amazing Race." Sucks to be you.
>
> Well, I just got done cooking a tasty BIG crockpot of beef stew, so being me
> isn't *too* shabby...
>
> ;-)
>
> I LOVE this cooler weather, great for making those hearty dishes, baking,
> etc...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

I love the cooler weather, too. We just had shephard's pie because of
it.

Kris

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

>> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>> dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>> two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>> dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>> ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>> *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>> control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>> prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>> pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>> conditions.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
> weather and the seasons of the year.

During the summer I like to spend time outside. I like cooking on the
grill and eating on the patio. Besides, it seems a bit of a waste of
energy to have to run the AC to cool the house down while you are
filling it up wit heat from the oven or stove top. When the weather is
hot I tend to eat lighter meals. When it starts getting cold out I like
to eat heartier meals. I am heating the house anyway, there is no
problem having the oven on and warming things up. My wife and I are both
pretty good at braised dishes.

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message
...
> "jmcquown" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>>
>> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>> dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>> two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>> dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>> ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>> *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>> control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>> prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>> pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>> conditions.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else. For me it's more of a seasonal comfort
> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
> weather and the seasons of the year.

yep yep yep for us too

Anyway... if we have the same things all year round.... I do like the
seasonal thing! Some things to look forward to

On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:21:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
>>> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>> dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>> two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>> dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>> ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>> *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>> control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>> prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>> pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>> conditions.
>>
>> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
>> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
>> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
>> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
>> weather and the seasons of the year.
>
>During the summer I like to spend time outside. I like cooking on the
>grill and eating on the patio. Besides, it seems a bit of a waste of
>energy to have to run the AC to cool the house down while you are
>filling it up wit heat from the oven or stove top. When the weather is
>hot I tend to eat lighter meals. When it starts getting cold out I like
>to eat heartier meals. I am heating the house anyway, there is no
>problem having the oven on and warming things up. My wife and I are both
>pretty good at braised dishes.
>
I'll do short stove top cooking during warm weather but I refrain from
using the oven as much as possible... I consider the oven part of my
heating system, I don't see the point in having the oven negate my
A/C... heck, even during winter I don't light my oven just for me,
only if I have company, I'm not about to light the oven for a single
baked potato no matter what season.

During warm weather I tend to take advantage of as much fresh seasonal
fruits and veggies as possible (salads are just not so good with
winter produce) and I mostly use the outdoor grill for cooking meats
and even veggies.

If I feel like hearty soups and stews during warm weather I always
have a choice of those I cooked during cold weather in my freezer... I
think anyone who claims they enjoy soups/stews all year is pretty
foolish not to make plenty extra during the cold months. I freeze
pasta dishes, meat loaf, even those panfuls of giant burgers... do
yoose really think I eat seven 14 ounce burgers in one fell swoop...
but they freeze very nicely... then braise a couple in gravy like
salisbury steak.

In article >,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
> > dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
> > two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
> > dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
> > ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
> > *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
> > control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
> > prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
> > pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
> > conditions.
>
> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
> weather and the seasons of the year.

I'm with Michael here. Still, I *don't* have air conditioning. We
lived in Sacramento a couple of months, and the apartment had an air
conditioner. The city didn't have much in the way of jobs, though. So,
in almost 60 years, that's my only living experience with an air
conditioner, two months. If I *did* have an air conditioner, and was
cooking something, I would spend the whole time thinking about my next
electric bill. Air conditioners suck up a lot of electricity, and
stoves create a lot of heat. Not a good combination. Cooking outside
appeals to me more on a hot day, just because it doesn't heat up the
house.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan wrote on Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:19:18 -0700:

>> "jmcquown" >
>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>
> >> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to
> >> cook certain dishes. Don't you people have air
> >> conditioning? I made a chuck roast two weeks ago. It was
> >> 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken & dumplings.
> >> It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated
> >> country ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only
> >> 85 degrees. LOL) *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do
> >> seasons and outside temperature control what people cook?
> >> I'd truly like to understand this. I prepare and eat hot
> >> soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot pie,
> >> chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special
> >> weather conditions.
>>
>> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a
>> seasonal comfort food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl
>> of beef stew after being outdoors all day on a crisp, cool
>> day. When it's cold outside I gravitate towards more filling,
>> hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the weather and
>> the seasons of the year.

> I'm with Michael here. Still, I *don't* have air
> conditioning. We lived in Sacramento a couple of months, and
> the apartment had an air conditioner. The city didn't have
> much in the way of jobs, though. So, in almost 60 years,
> that's my only living experience with an air conditioner, two
> months. If I *did* have an air conditioner, and was cooking
> something, I would spend the whole time thinking about my next
> electric bill. Air conditioners suck up a lot of electricity,
> and stoves create a lot of heat. Not a good combination.
> Cooking outside appeals to me more on a hot day, just because
> it doesn't heat up the house.

You remind me of the professor from San Francisco whom I heard
testifying before Congress that AC was an unnecessary luxury. The
temperature in Washington was running about 100F that week so he
convinced nobody here.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

James Silverton wrote:


> You remind me of the professor from San Francisco whom I heard
> testifying before Congress that AC was an unnecessary luxury. The
> temperature in Washington was running about 100F that week so he
> convinced nobody here.


I was in a bind last week when I had the heating contractor over to
discuss my new furnace. Our AC is about 35 years old and was last used
three years ago and only for a few days when we had out of town guests
staying with us and it was very hot and muggy. the last two summers have
been relatively cool. My wife suffers from allergies and would like to
start using it again. The new one is high efficiency and should be
cheaper to run. I could live without if the weather stays the way it has
been, but I figure that we live in weather cycles and maybe next summer
it will get hot and sticky again and it will be nice to have. There are
lots of rebates available for switching to high efficiency so U may as
well take advantage of them now.

In article
>,
Kris > wrote:

> I love the cooler weather, too. We just had shephard's pie because of
> it.
>
> Kris

I finally flipped the switch on our furnace when the weather guy said it
was a typical November day. :-\

I have a vat of shicken zoop on the stove. Smells good.


--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check
it out. And check this, too: <http://www.kare11.com/news/
newsatfour/newsatfour_article.aspx?storyid=823232&catid=323>

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
> dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning?

Sure. And it seems counter-productive to use it and then heat a room
with an oven. Some people try to economize on their utility usage.

> I made a chuck roast two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I
> made a pot of chicken & dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I
> roasted marinated country ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it
> was only 85 degrees. LOL) *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do
> seasons and outside temperature control what people cook?


My best guess is that some foods come to mind when people feel the need
to eat certain foods to improve their well-being or perception of how
they feel about life. Some people monitor their utility bills and see
no need to heat an oven that will heat a kitchen that will or may
require turning on the air conditioning system to return comfort to the
inside of the house. And some people don't mind hot weather and don't
mind heating the kitchen with oven usage when the temps are in the
90s‹seems like you're one of them. No problem. Some people major in
cold food when the temps are hot, some don't. If I want pot roast and
the forecast is for a hot day, I'll cook it early in the morning and
reheat it ‹ the hottest part of our day is at about 5-6:00 p.m.

> I'd truly like to understand this.

It's an internal preference setting.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check
it out. And check this, too: <http://www.kare11.com/news/
newsatfour/newsatfour_article.aspx?storyid=823232&catid=323>

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Kris > wrote:
>
>
>>I love the cooler weather, too. We just had shephard's pie because of
>>it.
>>
>>Kris
>
>
> I finally flipped the switch on our furnace when the weather guy said it
> was a typical November day. :-\
>
> I have a vat of shicken zoop on the stove. Smells good.
>
>
I've got a pot of shicken zoop on the stove.

It hasn't been anywhere near cool enough to need the furnace. In fact,
I've been enjoying sleeping with the windows open under a couple of quilts.

My kids love the smell of the furnace when we turn it on for the first
time in the fall. They also think the laundry room smells good. To me
those things smell like fried dust and tedious work, respectively.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> "jmcquown" >
> : in rec.food.cooking
>
>
>>I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>*Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>conditions.
>
>
> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
> weather and the seasons of the year.
>
> Michael
>

Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those
nice ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and
pepper in the fridge...

I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like
to stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his
ass out there and build me a covered patio right quick.

We had Stephanina's.

"Kathleen" > wrote in message
...
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" >
>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>>I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>>dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>>two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>>dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>>ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>>*Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>>control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>>prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>>pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>>conditions.
>>
>>
>> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
>> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
>> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
>> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
>> weather and the seasons of the year.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
> plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those nice
> ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and pepper in
> the fridge...
>
> I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like to
> stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his ass
> out there and build me a covered patio right quick.

lol


> We had Stephanina's.
>

Ophelia wrote:

> "Kathleen" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"jmcquown" >
: in rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>>>I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>>>dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>>>two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>>>dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>>>ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>>>*Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>>>control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>>>prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>>>pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>>>conditions.
>>>
>>>
>>>I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
>>>food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
>>>outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
>>>towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
>>>weather and the seasons of the year.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
>>plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those nice
>>ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and pepper in
>>the fridge...
>>
>>I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like to
>>stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his ass
>>out there and build me a covered patio right quick.
>
>
> lol
>
>
>
>>We had Stephanina's.

The pizza was excellent and there were leftovers for breakfast, and the
steaks absolutely kicked ass, having had an additional 24 hours to
absorb flavor from a non-acidic marinade that did not digest them into mush.

(If they'd been sitting in an acidic marinade I'd have gone ahead and
pan-fried them, knowing they'd have been ruined otherwise)

Ophelia wrote:
> "Kathleen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" >
>>> : in rec.food.cooking
>>>> I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>>> dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>>> two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>>> dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>>> ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>>> *Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>>> control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>>> prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>>> pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
>>> food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
>>> outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I gravitate
>>> towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve around the
>>> weather and the seasons of the year.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>> Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
>> plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those nice
>> ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and pepper in
>> the fridge...
>>
>> I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like to
>> stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his ass
>> out there and build me a covered patio right quick.
>
> lol
>
>
>> We had Stephanina's.
>>
>
>

I don't know why you would laugh... I know the quality of the women that
post here, and it's likely I'd stand in the rain for you any day.

OTOH, I'm smart enough to use remote thermometers, and go out when the
rain is light.

:-)

bob

Kathleen wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
> plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those
> nice ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and
> pepper in the fridge...
>
> I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like
> to stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his
> ass out there and build me a covered patio right quick.

I have been known to stand in the rain to grill steaks. I might monitor
the situation and get them started earlier or do them a little later,
but if I have steaks ready to go, I will tolerate the rain. I would
rather do it in nice weather. However, I don't plan on grilling steaks
outside in the winter.

"Kathleen" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "Kathleen" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"jmcquown" >
: in rec.food.cooking
>>>>
>>>>>I don't understand why people wait for cooler weather to cook certain
>>>>>dishes. Don't you people have air conditioning? I made a chuck roast
>>>>>two weeks ago. It was 90 degrees outside. I made a pot of chicken &
>>>>>dumplings. It was 90 degrees outside. I roasted marinated country
>>>>>ribs in the oven. (We had a cold snap, it was only 85 degrees. LOL)
>>>>>*Inside* it was 73 degrees. Why do seasons and outside temperature
>>>>>control what people cook? I'd truly like to understand this. I
>>>>>prepare and eat hot soup all year round. Shepard's pie, chicken pot
>>>>>pie, chili, stew... doesn't seem to require special weather
>>>>>conditions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's more of a seasonal comfort
>>>>food type of thing. Nothing like a big bowl of beef stew after being
>>>>outdoors all day on a crisp, cool day. When it's cold outside I
>>>>gravitate towards more filling, hot foods. For me it seems to revolve
>>>>around the weather and the seasons of the year.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, and *daily* weather, not just seasonal. My husband asked me
>>>plaintively why I'd decided to order pizza instead of grilling those nice
>>>ribeyes he'd seen marinating in olive oil, garlic, sea salt and pepper in
>>>the fridge...
>>>
>>>I glanced pointedly at the window and suggested that perhaps HE'D like to
>>>stand in the driving rain and monitor them. Either that or get his ass
>>>out there and build me a covered patio right quick.
>>
>>
>> lol
>>
>>
>>
>>>We had Stephanina's.
>
> The pizza was excellent and there were leftovers for breakfast, and the
> steaks absolutely kicked ass, having had an additional 24 hours to absorb
> flavor from a non-acidic marinade that did not digest them into mush.
>
> (If they'd been sitting in an acidic marinade I'd have gone ahead and
> pan-fried them, knowing they'd have been ruined otherwise)

Yers!!! I am so pleased it all turned out well))

Now... about that covered patio............. <g>

In article
>,
Ranée at Arabian Knits > wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:

> > I have been known to stand in the rain to grill steaks. I might monitor
> > the situation and get them started earlier or do them a little later,
> > but if I have steaks ready to go, I will tolerate the rain. I would
> > rather do it in nice weather. However, I don't plan on grilling steaks
> > outside in the winter.
>
> When we lived on the west side, rain didn't stop us from grilling.
> Even here, rain doesn't stop us from grilling if we want to do it, but
> on the west side, some summers, if you waited for a nice night, you
> might not grill.

The kids are older now, but my wife and her sister still talk on the
telephone every week. The standing joke in the old days was that my
wife would say that something (usually a kid's soccer game) was delayed
due to rain. Her sister would laugh, and say that around Seattle, where
they lived, that they would never play any games if they delayed them
for a little rain.

We probably wouldn't grill in the rain during the summer here. Then
again, our average rainfall for the month of July is .01 inch.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA