Early this morning I received an email from a friend that among other
topics contained the following question. At first I was going to
simply respond with some cutesy retort but then after thinking about
it, and since I truly value the friendship, I gave a more serious
response. What would you have replied?


What, exactly is middle age?
---

I suppose that depends on whether one means philosophically or
mathematically. Ask insurance actuaries and they'll give a
mathematical definition based on historical facts. Philosophically I
think much depends upon at what the traditions were at the period one
was born, it's much easier to look backwards at our ancestor's history
than to predict the future. I don't think we maintain the same values
throughout our lives but many are ingrained from infancy and we tend
to hold on to those the most tenaciously, especially those defining
agedness. We tend to define agedness by that of our parents, grand
parents, and other close relatives, whether true for ourselves doesn't
matter... we tend not to dwell on those who met an early demise and
dismiss them from the calculation. Instead most people concentrate on
the ages of those who have lived the longest, naturally that, or so
they think, increases their odds of longevity.

Many people can easily define when middle age begins for themselves
(for many when they have children) but will be unable to define when
middle age ends and old age begins. Most people tend to hang on to
middle age for as long as possible, some never let go of middle age
and admit to being senior citizens... senior citizen is in fact a
euphemism for old age. Most people I think categorize aging into
three parts, young, middle age, and old age. But I think there are
more divisions, three for each of those. I think birth to 5 is
infancy, 5 to 12 is children, and 12 to 18 is young adulthood. I
think adulthood begins at 18, of course nowadays adulthood seems to
begin much later, some never achieve adulthood. I think middle age
spans from 18 to 60 with various divisions within. And old age begins
at 60 with various divisions until death. At this point I consider
myself in early old age. I think from 70 to 80 is middle old age, and
after 80 one can either say they are Methuselah or into second
infancy... I think after 80 one can say whatever they want and it will
probably be the truth. I don't think age is so important as how one
lives their life.

I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.

Sheldon

On Oct 10, 6:52*pm, brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Early this morning I received an email from a friend that among other
> topics contained the following question. *At first I was going to
> simply respond with some cutesy retort but then after thinking about
> it, and since I truly value the friendship, I gave a more serious
> response. *What would you have replied?
>
> What, exactly is middle age?
> ---
>
> I suppose that depends on whether one means philosophically or
> mathematically. *Ask insurance actuaries and they'll give a
> mathematical definition based on historical facts. *Philosophically I
> think much depends upon at what the traditions were at the period one
> was born, it's much easier to look backwards at our ancestor's history
> than to predict the future. *I don't think we maintain the same values
> throughout our lives but many are ingrained from infancy and we tend
> to hold on to those the most tenaciously, especially those defining
> agedness. *We tend to define agedness by that of our parents, grand
> parents, and other close relatives, whether true for ourselves doesn't
> matter... we tend not to dwell on those who met an early demise and
> dismiss them from the calculation. *Instead most people concentrate on
> the ages of those who have lived the longest, naturally that, or so
> they think, increases their odds of longevity.
>
> Many people can easily define when middle age begins for themselves
> (for many when they have children) but will be unable to define when
> middle age ends and old age begins. *Most people tend to hang on to
> middle age for as long as possible, some never let go of middle age
> and admit to being senior citizens... senior citizen is in fact a
> euphemism for old age. *Most people I think categorize aging into
> three parts, young, middle age, and old age. *But I think there are
> more divisions, three for each of those. *I think birth to 5 is
> infancy, 5 to 12 is children, and 12 to 18 is young adulthood. *I
> think adulthood begins at 18, of course nowadays adulthood seems to
> begin much later, some never achieve adulthood. *I think middle age
> spans from 18 to 60 with various divisions within. *And old age begins
> at 60 with various divisions until death. *At this point I consider
> myself in early old age. *I think from 70 to 80 is middle old age, and
> after 80 one can either say they are Methuselah or into second
> infancy... I think after 80 one can say whatever they want and it will
> probably be the truth. *I don't think age is so important as how one
> lives their life.
>
> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.
>
> Sheldon

I think middle age ends when you no longer have anything to look
forward to. You are just waiting for the Grim Guy to arrive.

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Early this morning I received an email from a friend that among other
> topics contained the following question. At first I was going to
> simply respond with some cutesy retort but then after thinking about
> it, and since I truly value the friendship, I gave a more serious
> response. What would you have replied?
>
>
> What, exactly is middle age?

<Snip>

> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.
>
> Sheldon

Here is what the encyclopedia et al say:

Middle age is the period of life beyond young adulthood but before the onset
of old age. Various attempts have been made to define this age, which is
around the third quarter of the average life span of human beings.
According to Collins Dictionary, this is "... usually considered to occur
approximately between the ages of 40 and 60".
The OED gives a similar definition but with a later start point "... the
period between youth and old age, about 45 to 60".
The US Census lists middle age as including both the age categories 35 to 44
and 45 to 54, while prominent social scientist, Erik Erikson, sees it ending
a little later and defines middle adulthood as between 40 and 65.

Now for me - Old age is when your mind makes promises your body refuses to
keep. AKA time to PARTY and about 9:30 your body says "night night time"

Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is still
capable of keeping.

:-)



--
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Dimitri wrote:

(snip)

> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is still
> capable of keeping.

OOH! Nice description/definition!

Sky

--
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Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

brooklyn1 wrote


>> I don't think age is so important as how one
>> lives their life.
>
> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.


I like that distinction, Sheldon. I also think that health
enters into the equation.


Dimitri wrote

> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your
body > is still capable of keeping.



I'm not sure I'd phrase it exactly that way. I think Middle Age
can come at any time, when you refuse to try anything new because
"I'm too old." or "It's too much trouble."

I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old
fuss-budget who won't travel, even to see their children and
grandchildren, won't go out to eat

brooklyn1 wrote:

>> I don't think age is so important as how one
>> lives their life.
>>
>> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.
>


I like that distinction, Sheldon. I do think health
enters into it somewhere, too.



Dimitri wrote:

> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your
body > is still capable of keeping.


That's awfully flip, Dimitri, but in some ways it is true.

I know a couple in their late 80s who used to be our neighbors.
She is still lots of fun and raring to go. He's an old crab
who has gotten more and more paranoid in old age. He won't
travel now, even to visit their kids and grandkids, won't go
out to dinner, won't let her drive even to the grocery store.
His excuse is "I'm too old" so he won't even make the effort.
She's vital and interesting; he's sitting around waiting to die.

gloria p

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:09:16 -0600, Gloria P >
wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote
>
>
> >> I don't think age is so important as how one
>>> lives their life.
>>
>> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.
>
>
>I like that distinction, Sheldon. I also think that health
>enters into the equation.
>
>
>Dimitri wrote
>
> > Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your
>body > is still capable of keeping.
>
>
>
>I'm not sure I'd phrase it exactly that way. I think Middle Age
>can come at any time, when you refuse to try anything new because
>"I'm too old." or "It's too much trouble."
>
>I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
>ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old
>fuss-budget who won't travel, even to see their children and
>grandchildren, won't go out to eat

I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
his presence that he's still here.

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> Now for me - Old age is when your mind makes promises your body refuses to
> keep. AKA time to PARTY and about 9:30 your body says "night night time"
>
> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is still
> capable of keeping.
>
> :-)

I think that is a pretty good definition. The numerical age will vary, but
the mental attitude is the deciding factor.

Dimitri wrote:
> Now for me - Old age is when your mind makes promises your body
> refuses to keep. AKA time to PARTY and about 9:30 your body says
> "night night time"
> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is
> still capable of keeping.

Agreed)))

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:09:16 -0600, Gloria P >
> wrote:
>
>> brooklyn1 wrote
>>
>>
>>>> I don't think age is so important as how one
>>>> lives their life.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps, of course it's only my opinion.
>>
>> I like that distinction, Sheldon. I also think that health
>> enters into the equation.
>>
>>
>> Dimitri wrote
>>
>>> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your
>> body > is still capable of keeping.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I'd phrase it exactly that way. I think Middle Age
>> can come at any time, when you refuse to try anything new because
>> "I'm too old." or "It's too much trouble."
>>
>> I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
>> ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old
>> fuss-budget who won't travel, even to see their children and
>> grandchildren, won't go out to eat
>
> I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
> children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
> endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
> to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
> that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
> are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
> his presence that he's still here.

Good points!

--
Jean B.

brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:09:16 -0600, Gloria P >

>>
>> I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
>> ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old
>> fuss-budget who won't travel, even to see their children and
>> grandchildren,
>
> I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
> children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
> endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
> to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
> that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
> are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
> his presence that he's still here.



Of course I'm not kidding. He still mows his own lawn (1/2 acre)
and shovels his own driveway even though he could easily pay to
have it done. He has no health problems.

His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at
least twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too
much trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the
kids (CO and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move.
("It's too much trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't
the problem, his attitude is.

gloria p

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to be middle
> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!

I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?

Gloria P wrote:

>brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Gloria P wrote:
>>>
>>> I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
>>> ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old
>>> fuss-budget who won't travel, even to see their children and
>>> grandchildren,
>>
>> I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
>> children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
>> endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
>> to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
>> that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
>> are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
>> his presence that he's still here.
>
>Of course I'm not kidding. He still mows his own lawn (1/2 acre)
>and shovels his own driveway even though he could easily pay to
>have it done. He has no health problems.

Sheesh, I thought you would say something profound, but you are really
quite shallow.

You don't know that he has no health problems... and you don't know
his finances either. Just because someone mows a little grass and
clears a little snow doesn't mean they haven't serious health
issues... most health issues aren't obvious... I suppose you are one
of those who grimaces at handicap parkers because you don't see them
roll up in an iron lung. And wtf are you concerned with others bank
accounts?

Just this week I discovered something about one of my neighbors. I
met him some six years ago when I first moved here, he knocked on my
door to welcome me and to ask if his son could hunt on my property
(obviously his main agenda) naturally I said no way. We spoke for a
while about nothing and he left. I didn't see him since except from a
distance, his house is a good 1,000 feet away with woods between, I
need to go out into the road and get close to his driveway in order to
see his house.. I noticed his lawn was mowed and his snow was plowed
all this time, but never really paid much attention, I just figured he
was a recluse. Last month a big Coldwell Banker sign went up in front
of his house. The next week a big dumpster was dropped off in his
driveway. I began to be curious about who my new neighbors would be,
hoping friendlier folks. Then just this week I decided to go into
town and saw someone in his driveway filling the dumpster with junk
from his barn. So I decided this was my opportunity to find out the
status of his house so I pulled in. He said it was sold, would be
closed on the 30th of this month. We spoke for a while and I
discovered he was moving because he could no longer care for the house
or even live on his own. He has one glass eye and with the other only
sees blurs, he's legally blind. He can no longer drive. The surgery
he needs on his one eye has a 50% success rate so he still needs to
think about it. I could say more but the thing is I never knew he was
blind. I always thought his mowing and snow plowing were sloppy
because like many others he didn't care. I'm sure he has other health
issues, he's 55 and looks an old 75. It's best not to judge a book by
it's cover.

"Gloria P" > wrote in message
...
> brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:09:16 -0600, Gloria P >
>
>>>
>>> I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of ours.
>>> She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old fuss-budget who won't
>>> travel, even to see their children and grandchildren,
>>
>> I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
>> children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
>> endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
>> to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
>> that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
>> are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
>> his presence that he's still here.
>
>
>
> Of course I'm not kidding. He still mows his own lawn (1/2 acre)
> and shovels his own driveway even though he could easily pay to have it
> done. He has no health problems.
>
> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least twice
> a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much trouble. His
> wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO and CAL) for the past
> 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much trouble.") His age, finances,
> and health aren't the problem, his attitude is.
>
> gloria p



I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told me his
neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot tar roofer all
of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his "elderly neighbors" lawns
every weekend. The young man exclaimed to me, "He's elderly!" No, he's
physically fit, healthy and bored out of his mind. I can't think of any
other reason to want to mow 12 lawns a week.

Jill

In article >,
brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Just this week I discovered something about one of my neighbors. I
> met him some six years ago when I first moved here, he knocked on my
> door to welcome me and to ask if his son could hunt on my property
> (obviously his main agenda) naturally I said no way. We spoke for a
> while about nothing and he left. I didn't see him since except from a
(snip)
> think about it. I could say more but the thing is I never knew he was
> blind. I always thought his mowing and snow plowing were sloppy
> because like many others he didn't care. I'm sure he has other health
> issues, he's 55 and looks an old 75. It's best not to judge a book by
> it's cover.

Maybe Gloria knows her neighbors better than you know yours.
--
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it out. And check this, too: <http://www.kare11.com/news/
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jmcquown wrote:
> "Gloria P" > wrote

>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>> attitude is.

> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
> lawns a week.

If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
Sitting still can kill you fast.

nancy

Dimitri wrote:


> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is
> still capable of keeping.
>
> :-)

However, as they say 'round he "You're as old as the person you
feel."

;-)

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:16:02 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Dimitri wrote:
>
>
>> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is
>> still capable of keeping.
>>
>> :-)
>
>However, as they say 'round he "You're as old as the person you
>feel."
>
>;-)

Hmm, that would make Duh'Weenie somehere between 6 and 8. LOL

brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:16:02 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> Dimitri wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Therefore Middle age is when your mind makes promises your body is
>>> still capable of keeping.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> However, as they say 'round he "You're as old as the person you
>> feel."
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Hmm, that would make Duh'Weenie somehere between 6 and 8. LOL


Heh...he even got a new Rascal via his NAMBLA health plan, that way he can
still chase all the nighborhood kidz around...


--
Best
Greg

jmcquown wrote:
> "Gloria P" > wrote in message
> ...
>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:09:16 -0600, Gloria P >
>>
>>>>
>>>> I know a couple in their late 80s, they used to be neighbors of
>>>> ours. She is still fun and raring to go. He is an old fuss-budget
>>>> who won't travel, even to see their children and grandchildren,
>>>
>>> I trust you're kidding... at nearly ninety his children and grand
>>> children should be visiting him. Why should a man that age be made to
>>> endure the rigors of travel to where no one will go out of their way
>>> to ensure his comfort. People that age usually have medical issues
>>> that require special consideration. You've got to be kidding, or you
>>> are not in your right mind. At ninety they should feel honored with
>>> his presence that he's still here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course I'm not kidding. He still mows his own lawn (1/2 acre)
>> and shovels his own driveway even though he could easily pay to have
>> it done. He has no health problems.
>>
>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO and
>> CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>> attitude is.
>>
>> gloria p
>
>
>
> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told me
> his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot tar
> roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his "elderly
> neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to me, "He's
> elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out of his mind.
> I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12 lawns a week.
>
> Jill

Please post a link to a picture of "your" non-electrical lights.

R

"D 2.1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to be
>> middle
>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>
> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?


Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would I want
with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe? I never was
interested in children but it always surprises you trailer trash types that
not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet with losers like yourself.

You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually retire at
age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your "cousin" supported her
lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about alchohol, I dare you. Bet you have
a beer in your hand right now, Dickhead.

Jill

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>
>>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>>> attitude is.
>
>> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
>> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
>> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
>> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
>> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
>> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
>> lawns a week.
>
> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>
> nancy

now wait just a minute!

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>>
>>>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>>>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>>>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>>>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>>>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>>>> attitude is.
>>
>>> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
>>> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
>>> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
>>> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
>>> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
>>> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
>>> lawns a week.
>>
>> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
>> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>>
>> nancy
>
> now wait just a minute!
>
haha! I'm with you. We have the same hobby!

jmcquown wrote:
> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to be
>>> middle
>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>
>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>
>
> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would I
> want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe? I
> never was interested in children but it always surprises you trailer
> trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet with
> losers like yourself.
>
> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually retire
> at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your "cousin"
> supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about alchohol, I dare
> you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now, Dickhead.
>
> Jill

Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you
certainly didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K to
cover my expenses each month?

BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual,
friend.

"Roger" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to be
>>>> middle
>>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>>
>>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>>
>>
>> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would I
>> want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe? I
>> never was interested in children but it always surprises you trailer
>> trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet with
>> losers like yourself.
>>
>> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually retire
>> at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your "cousin"
>> supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about alchohol, I dare
>> you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now, Dickhead.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you certainly
> didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K to cover my
> expenses each month?
>
> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual,
> friend.

You know, I can't stand Jill, but I dislike your ugly ass even more. Buh
byeee.

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:52:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>>>>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>>>>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>>>>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>>>>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>>>>> attitude is.
>>>
>>>> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
>>>> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
>>>> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
>>>> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
>>>> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
>>>> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
>>>> lawns a week.
>>>
>>> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
>>> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> now wait just a minute!
>>
>haha! I'm with you. We have the same hobby!
>
I was going to suggest that blake get one of those cute John
Deere ride on mowers and a straw farmer's hat. He could make friends,
influence people... and pick up some pocket change.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:33:00 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Cooties are different from your "coochie" term - in grade school,
>everyone knew that you could get cooties from the opposite sex - just
>because they were invisible didn't mean they weren't there. We made
>cootie catchers just for the occasional cootie sighting.

Weren't they designed to create cooties to catch?

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

cybercat wrote:
> "Roger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to be
>>>>> middle
>>>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>>>
>>> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would I
>>> want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe? I
>>> never was interested in children but it always surprises you trailer
>>> trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet with
>>> losers like yourself.
>>>
>>> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually retire
>>> at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your "cousin"
>>> supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about alchohol, I dare
>>> you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now, Dickhead.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you certainly
>> didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K to cover my
>> expenses each month?
>>
>> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual,
>> friend.
>
> You know, I can't stand Jill, but I dislike your ugly ass even more. Buh
> byeee.
>
>

Get over yourself.

Roger wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to
>>>> be middle
>>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>>
>>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>>
>>
>> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would
>> I want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe?
>> I never was interested in children but it always surprises you trailer
>> trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet
>> with losers like yourself.
>>
>> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually
>> retire at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your
>> "cousin" supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about
>> alchohol, I dare you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now,
>> Dickhead.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you
> certainly didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K to
> cover my expenses each month?
>
> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual, friend.

It costs $10K per month to support you?

Wow... There is no getting over yourself... is there?

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:42:26 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:52:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>>>>>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>>>>>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>>>>>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>>>>>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>>>>>> attitude is.
>>>>
>>>>> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
>>>>> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
>>>>> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
>>>>> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
>>>>> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
>>>>> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
>>>>> lawns a week.
>>>>
>>>> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
>>>> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> now wait just a minute!
>>>
>>haha! I'm with you. We have the same hobby!
>>
> I was going to suggest that blake get one of those cute John
> Deere ride on mowers and a straw farmer's hat. He could make friends,
> influence people... and pick up some pocket change.

i'd have to drive it on a highway to get to someplace to plow.

i'd definitely influence people, but i don't think it would be towards
making them friendly.

your pal,
blake

Bob Muncie wrote:
> Roger wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to
>>>>> be middle
>>>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>>>
>>>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would
>>> I want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe?
>>> I never was interested in children but it always surprises you
>>> trailer trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the
>>> planet with losers like yourself.
>>>
>>> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually
>>> retire at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your
>>> "cousin" supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about
>>> alchohol, I dare you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now,
>>> Dickhead.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you
>> certainly didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K
>> to cover my expenses each month?
>>
>> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual,
>> friend.
>
> It costs $10K per month to support you?
>
> Wow... There is no getting over yourself... is there?

Other people need *much* more for their financial obligations.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:16:10 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:42:26 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:52:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> "Gloria P" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> His kids and grown grandchildren each go back east to visit at least
>>>>>>> twice a year. He is still capable of travel, it's just too much
>>>>>>> trouble. His wife has wanted to move close to one of the kids (CO
>>>>>>> and CAL) for the past 20 years but he won't move. ("It's too much
>>>>>>> trouble.") His age, finances, and health aren't the problem, his
>>>>>>> attitude is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had my kitchen electrical lights replaced by a young man who told
>>>>>> me his neighbor, who is 86 years old, finally retired. He was a hot
>>>>>> tar roofer all of his life. He finally retired. Now he mows his
>>>>>> "elderly neighbors" lawns every weekend. The young man exclaimed to
>>>>>> me, "He's elderly!" No, he's physically fit, healthy and bored out
>>>>>> of his mind. I can't think of any other reason to want to mow 12
>>>>>> lawns a week.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
>>>>> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> nancy
>>>>
>>>> now wait just a minute!
>>>>
>>>haha! I'm with you. We have the same hobby!
>>>
>> I was going to suggest that blake get one of those cute John
>> Deere ride on mowers and a straw farmer's hat. He could make friends,
>> influence people... and pick up some pocket change.
>
>i'd have to drive it on a highway to get to someplace to plow.
>
>i'd definitely influence people, but i don't think it would be towards
>making them friendly.
>
I'm talking about this.
http://products.howstuffworks.com/jo...tor-review.htm


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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:38:25 -0400, Roger 1 >
wrote:

>Other people need *much* more for their financial obligations.

You're too high maintenance.

--
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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:29:42 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:16:10 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:42:26 -0700, sf wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:52:13 -0400, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:57:16 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he retired to his recliner he'd probably croak within a year.
>>>>>> Sitting still can kill you fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nancy
>>>>>
>>>>> now wait just a minute!
>>>>>
>>>>haha! I'm with you. We have the same hobby!
>>>>
>>> I was going to suggest that blake get one of those cute John
>>> Deere ride on mowers and a straw farmer's hat. He could make friends,
>>> influence people... and pick up some pocket change.
>>
>>i'd have to drive it on a highway to get to someplace to plow.
>>
>>i'd definitely influence people, but i don't think it would be towards
>>making them friendly.
>>
> I'm talking about this.
> http://products.howstuffworks.com/jo...tor-review.htm
>

well, i'm sure that would cut an imposing figure at the grocery store, but i think i'll stick to the chair.

your pal,
blake

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:38:25 -0400, Roger 1 >
> wrote:
>
>> Other people need *much* more for their financial obligations.
>
> You're too high maintenance.
>

I can afford what I have. It's really all relative.

Roger 1 wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:38:25 -0400, Roger 1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Other people need *much* more for their financial obligations.
>>
>> You're too high maintenance.
>>
>
> I can afford what I have. It's really all relative.

Just curious... do you live in Hollywood, or are you somebody's sock?

Roger wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> "D 2.1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:07:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's certainly a *grim* way to look at it. I consider myself to
>>>> be middle
>>>> aged and I still have many things to look forward to!
>>>
>>> I husband and a job? Children? Drinking more wine?
>>
>>
>> Okay, before you morph once more DK... at my age, what the hell would
>> I want with children? Get to play Grandma, bake some cookies maybe?
>> I never was interested in children but it always surprises you trailer
>> trash types that not everyone wants to procreate. Fill the planet
>> with losers like yourself.
>>
>> You should be so lucky to find someone like me who could actually
>> retire at age 48 and support your lazy ass. Kind of like your
>> "cousin" supported her lazy drunken husband. Talk to me about
>> alchohol, I dare you. Bet you have a beer in your hand right now,
>> Dickhead.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Nice try. Wasn't my post. You inherited your retirement - you
> certainly didn't work for it. You could never support me - got $10K to
> cover my expenses each month?
>
> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual, friend.

Isn't it rather transparent that both you and "roger1" need $10k per
month to survive?

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:14:54 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:29:42 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>>
>> I'm talking about this.
>> http://products.howstuffworks.com/jo...tor-review.htm
>>
>
>well, i'm sure that would cut an imposing figure at the grocery store, but i think i'll stick to the chair.
>
I think a he-manly chair for the grocery store would be a mini version
of a forklift.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:55 -0400, Roger 1 >
wrote:

>sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:38:25 -0400, Roger 1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Other people need *much* more for their financial obligations.
>>
>> You're too high maintenance.
>>
>
>I can afford what I have. It's really all relative.

Yeah, you can do it for yourself... but in dating or divorce, that's
called high maintenance.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:58:22 -0400, Bob Muncie >
wrote:

>Roger wrote:
>>
>> BTW - I've heard all about your alcohol use - from a close, mutual, friend.
>
>Isn't it rather transparent that both you and "roger1" need $10k per
>month to survive?

I read this after your "sock" post, so it finally dawned on me that
Roger and Roger1 are DK. What a sorry assed excuse for a human being.

I was blaming uk.f+d trolls.

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I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.