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OMG, I was the first response!!! First time ever!!

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> OMG, I was the first response!!! First time ever!!
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And The Winner Is:

<Drum Rollllll>

Christine!!!!

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I hate you.

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A good question might've also been - how often do you eat at a
neighbor's house? 1 - 3, 4-6 etc times a year.

We eat at friends' and relatives' houses ten times more often than
neighbors.

I had to answer yes, and responded with alacrity, but that was only
once this year. Other neighbors aren't the entertaining types. One
runs a resto and is never home, another diabetic and has to limit
foods, another not here but a few mos. of the year, another has a
zillion kids and no time to entertain, another always out of town on
business.

The one invite was great - she made white clam sauce (scratch and with
fresh clams) over linguini, big salad, garlic bread - I brought
poundcake, raspberry frozen yogurt and a blueberry sauce.


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MCINTL both. Apparently based on feedback, no matter how fancy they are, we
do 'potlucks' here because everyone brings a little something. It may just
be 3 families, but we all bring some dish with us to match the other
offerings.

Thursday we had one for Joanna's 68th birthday. Too bad she hates fish as
we have all that fish Don caught!

We brought fresh bread still warm from the breadmaker, a starter soup of
carrots with a little nutmeg, and a bottle of wine. She made her signature
chicken livers (even this liver hater will tolerate a few of those!), and
Ben and his wife brought salad and a dessert. Guislane brought meatballs in
sauce with a cabbage foundation.

It was a sweet sad time. It was her first birthday without husband (died
last winter) or sons (2 in the gulf, 1 away in Chicago). We got merry with
the wine anyways after a bit of sad remebrance of her husband Johann.

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Kalmia wrote:

> A good question might've also been - how often do you eat at a
> neighbor's house? 1 - 3, 4-6 etc times a year.
>
> We eat at friends' and relatives' houses ten times more often than
> neighbors.
>
> I had to answer yes, and responded with alacrity, but that was only
> once this year. Other neighbors aren't the entertaining types. One
> runs a resto and is never home, another diabetic and has to limit
> foods, another not here but a few mos. of the year, another has a
> zillion kids and no time to entertain, another always out of town on
> business.
>
> The one invite was great - she made white clam sauce (scratch and with
> fresh clams) over linguini, big salad, garlic bread - I brought
> poundcake, raspberry frozen yogurt and a blueberry sauce.


We have dinner with each of the neighbours on either side of us several
times per year. The neighbour on one side is Italian and her parents
live next door to them. The parents have 4 or 5 other houses.... Italy,
Florida, Colorado and New Jersey and are only here for a month or so
each year, but always have us over. they do the typical Italian type of
meal with pasta, chicken, fish, sausages, various salads etc. The
neighbours on the other side have us over once in a while on our own but
have several large dinner time parties. They aren't exactly pot luck but
they do a roast and salads and some Mexican friends of theirs bring a
variety of Mexican dishes, usually enough to feed 20-30 people. They
always tell us not to bring anything but we usually take over a freshly
baked pie or some other dessert items.
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Although I replied, I'm not sure what the point of the second
question was. If you are friendly enough to be asked to dinner,
why wouldn't accept happily unless the neighbor has a house that
should be condemned by the health department? (I don't know
anyone like that.)

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> Although I replied, I'm not sure what the point of the second question
> was. If you are friendly enough to be asked to dinner, why wouldn't
> accept happily unless the neighbor has a house that should be condemned by
> the health department? (I don't know anyone like that.)


Because there are some people out there (I'm not one and it sounds like you
aren't either) that will only eat over at a friend's house if they themself
have prepared the food because they "know the levels of cleanliness that
have been maintained."

Personally, those "people" are freaks and should be seated (while duct-taped
to a chair) at a Home Town Buffet and forced to endure a dinner rush or two.
They're right there with those people that should be condemned by the health
department...

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You didn't include the response where you and the old lady have a
three-way with the so-called chef. Whatever.


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Gloria P wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
>
> Although I replied, I'm not sure what the point of the second
> question was. If you are friendly enough to be asked to dinner,
> why wouldn't accept happily unless the neighbor has a house that
> should be condemned by the health department? (I don't know
> anyone like that.)


Put it this way, I've had a couple of really pleasant neighbors over the
years, whose houses/apartments were always kept very neat and clean -
but one of them couldn't cook worth a damn. Gawd knows she tried - but
I think she'd make Sandra Lee look like the best chef on the planet. I
accepted an invitation for a meal there - once. I think the entire meal
came out of cans... <shudder> After that I politely refused any further
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> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:21:40 +0200, ChattyCathy
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> Our neighbour is a VERY good cook... so if he invites us to dinner the
> answer is 'yes thanks, we'd love to!' He can't bake though, so every
> time I get the baking urge I make extra for him in return.


Sounds like a win-win situation to me
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> "ChattyCathy" wrote
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>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com

>
> MCINTL both. Apparently based on feedback, no matter how fancy they
> are, we do 'potlucks' here because everyone brings a little something.
> It may just be 3 families, but we all bring some dish with us to match
> the other offerings.


Ah, OK.
>
> Thursday we had one for Joanna's 68th birthday. Too bad she hates
> fish as we have all that fish Don caught!
>
> We brought fresh bread still warm from the breadmaker, a starter soup
> of carrots with a little nutmeg, and a bottle of wine. She made her
> signature chicken livers (even this liver hater will tolerate a few of
> those!),


Ohhh, I love chicken livers. How did she make hers?

> and Ben and his wife brought salad and a dessert. Guislane brought
> meatballs in sauce with a cabbage foundation.
>
> It was a sweet sad time. It was her first birthday without husband
> (died last winter) or sons (2 in the gulf, 1 away in Chicago). We got
> merry with the wine anyways after a bit of sad remebrance of her
> husband Johann.


That is rather sad...

But the food sounded really good (except for the cabbage part) <evil
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> Funny what people do. Years ago there was a couple in my apartment
> building with whom I had become friends. I invited them for dinner
> and the
> wife brought the most delicious lemon meringue pie for dessert. Over
> time we became quite close and discussed food as a mutual interest
> many times,
> thus also knowing each others likes and dislikes. The main course of
> the first dinner I was invited to was some sort of white fish baked in
> milk. I'm sure she was aware that I was not overly fond of most fish,
> least of
> all when baked in a liquid. Go figure! She was an excellent cook and
> baker, but I'll never forget that meal. :-)
>


Maybe she's like my Dad, who often said to me, "What do you mean you
don't like cabbage? You'll love it the way I make it, just wait and
see!" <g>

Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be "converted"?

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I love being invited by my neighbors. They are endlessly helpful in trials
of my recipes, even when they seem strange to them, and eating with them
gives me loads of insight into real home cooking in Umbria. It's a great
way to know each other better, too.

It's different here because there is a lomg tradition predating the Romans
of people spending time in the streets and piazzas together. Because we are
in the country we meet where the two driveways meet. Not relating is a huge
statement here, and there is one non-resident that most of us have nothing
to do with. In the US just nodding at a neighbor was as far as most of us
went.




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> I hate you.
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> The "second by that much" Ranger
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Ohhh, you're much much much lower than second....

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> Although I replied, I'm not sure what the point of the second
> question was. *If you are friendly enough to be asked to dinner,
> why wouldn't accept happily unless the neighbor has a house that
> should be condemned by the health department? *(I don't know
> anyone like that.)
>
> * gloria p


I do. Several. Also on the condemned list of the city/state building
inspector.

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I love our neighbors. They are also our friends. (Truthfully, I like her
a lot more than I like him) and they are always inviting us for dinner
and she can never get the clue that DH doesn't do a lot of carbohydrates.

She is what I call a "Betty Crocker Cook" that is she cooks
middle-American with lots of starches, lots of frying and little
imagination or flavoring.

She will have us for steaks and serve potato salad, baked potatoes,
baked beans and garlic bread. They she'll have home made (not the crust)
pie for dessert. He eats the meat and politely picks on the other stuff.
We like these people and do not want to insult them.

She has eaten in our home enough times to see how little starches we
eat, but it never seems to dawn on her that the majority of her meal is
starch.

If I can, I invite them to my place. They consider me a "gourmet cook"
so they are usually happy to come, but they often invite us when they
are having other friends who come bringing more carbohydrates.

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> Maybe she's like my Dad, who often said to me, "What do you mean you
> don't like cabbage? You'll love it the way I make it, just wait and
> see!" <g>
> Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
> right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be "converted"?


A primary reason why our 'pot lucks' (even fancy) have more than one main
and a grunch of sides ;-)

It's kinda funny as we are setting up one for next week. We got a little
email group for this and Deanna wants to host. It has this list of 'who
hates what' so we can make sure 1 of the 2 mains etc, is edible. There's
even a reminder that we won't come if there is liver of any type other than
chicken liver in one of the 2 mains (I get barfy at the mere scent of any
other type). There's another warning to me to check first before bringing
any of my odder asian things like eels, octopus, squid, jellyfish heads,
etc. Basically, warn'em first and make sure I dont squick any one out.
Hey, thats fair after all they never subject me to beef or pork liver!
(they have it all the time, but warn me so I can opt out on those events).

Current one in progress, Deanna has a kid, almost age 4, with major
shellfish/iodine issues and too young to fully understand not to grab stuff
off plates so we go totally seafood free. (she's working on his grabbing
issues but kids that age are still a wee bit of an issue on that if it looks
interesting).

Deanna is looking at a pork loin dish and it feels to me our turn to add a
main so looking at a vertisserie chicken as beef would come too close.
Maybe a duck? Seems poulty would be a good second to pork.

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> cshenk wrote:


>> MCINTL both. Apparently based on feedback, no matter how fancy they
>> are, we do 'potlucks' here because everyone brings a little something.
>> It may just be 3 families, but we all bring some dish with us to match
>> the other offerings.

>
> Ah, OK.


Lets just say we scale from candlelight dinners with 5 courses, to hot dogs
in the back yard ;-)
It may be 3 families, or it may be 7.

>> Thursday we had one for Joanna's 68th birthday. Too bad she hates
>> fish as we have all that fish Don caught!
>>
>> We brought fresh bread still warm from the breadmaker, a starter soup
>> of carrots with a little nutmeg, and a bottle of wine. She made her
>> signature chicken livers (even this liver hater will tolerate a few of
>> those!),

>
> Ohhh, I love chicken livers. How did she make hers?


She does something but I dont have the recipe. They are wrapped in a barely
cooked bacon and swimming in a hot spicy (black pepper and something else
not sure of) white sauce. I get the impression a rumaki adaption of her
own. It's actually quite spicy in a deep sort of peppery way. She just
grins when I ladle some of it and the gravy over rice.

>> and Ben and his wife brought salad and a dessert. Guislane brought
>> meatballs in sauce with a cabbage foundation.
>>
>> It was a sweet sad time. It was her first birthday without husband
>> (died last winter) or sons (2 in the gulf, 1 away in Chicago). We got
>> merry with the wine anyways after a bit of sad remebrance of her
>> husband Johann.

>
> That is rather sad...


Yes, but life goes on and we have a fairly fun group here. I'm sure she
'cried happy' with remembrances of him after we left and reminded her of how
we had known him.

> But the food sounded really good (except for the cabbage part) <evil
> wink>


Snicker, just for that I'll cast Cabbage in your general direction! Kinchee
Ahoy! Hie thee to Cathy por favor!



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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:11:07 +0200, ChattyCathy
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>I've had a couple of really pleasant neighbors over the
>years, whose houses/apartments were always kept very neat and clean -
>but one of them couldn't cook worth a damn. Gawd knows she tried - but
>I think she'd make Sandra Lee look like the best chef on the planet. I
>accepted an invitation for a meal there - once. I think the entire meal
>came out of cans... <shudder> After that I politely refused any further
>invitations.


LOL - maybe that was the intent. Crafty!

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"cshenk" > wrote:

> "ChattyCathy" wrote
>
> > Maybe she's like my Dad, who often said to me, "What do you mean you
> > don't like cabbage? You'll love it the way I make it, just wait and
> > see!" <g>
> > Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
> > right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be "converted"?

>
> A primary reason why our 'pot lucks' (even fancy) have more than one main
> and a grunch of sides ;-)


We're having our usual Friday night follies next door tonight. We have
several issues to deal with in menu planning: one vegetarian couple;
one woman who's allergic to onions and garlic; another one who may have
a wheat allergy. These folks are extended family, so we accommodate
them. I offered to make a rice pilaf with vegetable broth. Since I
have to get rid of some produce before we leave on vacation tomorrow,
I'm going to make a vegetable gemisch alongside that does contain onions.

Cindy

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:41:01 -0700, Cindy Fuller wrote:

> In article >,
> "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> "ChattyCathy" wrote
>>
>>> Maybe she's like my Dad, who often said to me, "What do you mean you
>>> don't like cabbage? You'll love it the way I make it, just wait and
>>> see!" <g>
>>> Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
>>> right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be "converted"?

>>
>> A primary reason why our 'pot lucks' (even fancy) have more than one main
>> and a grunch of sides ;-)

>
> We're having our usual Friday night follies next door tonight. We have
> several issues to deal with in menu planning: one vegetarian couple;
> one woman who's allergic to onions and garlic; another one who may have
> a wheat allergy.


i had to deal with cooking for an onion-allergic girlfriend for a couple
years. pain in the butt (for me, anyway).

your pal,
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> i had to deal with cooking for an onion-allergic girlfriend for a couple
> years. pain in the butt (for me, anyway).
>
> your pal,
> blake



"no legs," no wonder she left you!!! Can't imagine how she stuck around as
long as you claim. No legs and stinkin' like that, too! How much did you have
to pay her???

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"Cindy Fuller" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:


>> > Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
>> > right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be "converted"?

>>
>> A primary reason why our 'pot lucks' (even fancy) have more than one main
>> and a grunch of sides ;-)

>
> We're having our usual Friday night follies next door tonight. We have
> several issues to deal with in menu planning: one vegetarian couple;
> one woman who's allergic to onions and garlic; another one who may have
> a wheat allergy. These folks are extended family, so we accommodate
> them. I offered to make a rice pilaf with vegetable broth. Since I
> have to get rid of some produce before we leave on vacation tomorrow,
> I'm going to make a vegetable gemisch alongside that does contain onions.



How did it go?

We do stuff like that all the time and it's always some different diet to
work around, but we've (our group) never minded.

Our last one went well and the next one is tomorrow. They have a liver dish
premo so warned me and i'm begging off on this one (grin). We do this meals
practically every week and no one minds as the membership shifts around a
food. Last time, i had to work around a fish-free zone meal.

Today, I've got a crockpot of great northern (white) beans on with some
onions and pork skin fat. Havent decided on spicing yet so they are just
warming up. Thinking maybe for once a can or so of crushed tomatoes and
something like zaatars seasoning? Plenty of time to decide.





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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:18:44 -0500, Andy > wrote:

>blake murphy said...
>
>> i had to deal with cooking for an onion-allergic girlfriend for a couple
>> years. pain in the butt (for me, anyway).
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>
>"no legs," no wonder she left you!!! Can't imagine how she stuck around as
>long as you claim. No legs and stinkin' like that, too! How much did you have
>to pay her???
>
>

Sure a pain in the butt... The mick and Duh'Weenie in drag with a
stinkin' zucchini! heheh


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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:18:44 -0500, Andy wrote:

> blake murphy said...
>
>> i had to deal with cooking for an onion-allergic girlfriend for a couple
>> years. pain in the butt (for me, anyway).
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> "no legs," no wonder she left you!!! Can't imagine how she stuck around as
> long as you claim. No legs and stinkin' like that, too! How much did you have
> to pay her???
>
> Andy


unlike you, andy, i don't have to pay my 'girlfriends.'

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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:04:06 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Sat 17 Oct 2009 11:12:00a, blake murphy told us...
>
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:41:01 -0700, Cindy Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, "cshenk"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ChattyCathy" wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe she's like my Dad, who often said to me, "What do you mean you
>>>>> don't like cabbage? You'll love it the way I make it, just wait and
>>>>> see!" <g>
>>>>> Seriously, perhaps she thought you just hadn't had fish "prepared the
>>>>> right way" and that after trying *her* fish dish, you'd be
>>>>> "converted"?
>>>>
>>>> A primary reason why our 'pot lucks' (even fancy) have more than one
>>>> main and a grunch of sides ;-)
>>>
>>> We're having our usual Friday night follies next door tonight. We have
>>> several issues to deal with in menu planning: one vegetarian couple;
>>> one woman who's allergic to onions and garlic; another one who may have
>>> a wheat allergy.

>>
>> i had to deal with cooking for an onion-allergic girlfriend for a couple
>> years. pain in the butt (for me, anyway).
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>>

>
> Surely that's not where you kept the onion hidden. :-)
>
> (I cannot imagine cooking without onion and garlic.)


she was *very* sensitive to it, too. i had to keep one side of my (wooden)
cutting board onion-free.

i nearly went nuts trying to figure out an onionless meat loaf.
(pre-internet days.)

your pal,
blake

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