jmcquown wrote:
> "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Roger1 > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>> I'm all for supporting local
>>>> businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> To support a local business?
>>
>> Odd how that simple thought eludes some people.
>>
>>
> Why so snide? I buy vegetables from local farm stands. If there was a
> chicken farm nearby I'd buy eggs and chicken from a local farmer.
> Unfortunately there aren't any.
>
> People on rfc are always going on and on about their wonderful farmer's
> markets. I've never lived anywhere where one was nearly as nice nor as
> convenient as I've heard described here. (Open four hours only on
> Wednesday, 30 miles away isn't exactly convenient.) And they don't sell
> eggs, cheese, meat or artisan breads. So sorry!
>
> If I have to buy my sourdough bread at a chain grocery store; that's
> just the way it is. I'd support local business if there WERE any local
> businesses. I live near a tourist town, not a farming community. Some
> of us don't have many choices. Get over it.
>
> Jill

That's not what you just said...

"I buy eggs and cheese and milk at Walgreen's. Sorry, but you cannot
beat the price and yes it's a chain. I'm all for supporting local
businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?"

(Steve Pope) wrote in news:hb89jq$cu6$1
@blue.rahul.net:

>> Before I start, really should point out that "to grocery shop" is
>> not an appropriate verb form in English.
>
> Disagree.

And I disagree with your disagreement.

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

Michel Boucher > wrote:

(jj) wrote in news:4ad5045e.246489937
:
>
>> I'm curious how many of you regularly shop at a small(er)/non-chain
>> grocery store for "staple" food items?
>
>Before I start, really should point out that "to grocery shop" is not an
>appropriate verb form in English.

Okay Mr. Title Editor, what would you put in the subject line?

Do You Grocery Shop at a Small(er) Business?
Do You Shop for Groceries at a Small(er) Business?

Bring on the pedanting contest! :-)

(jj) wrote in news:4ad7db52.1886468
@news.flex.com:

> Do You Shop for Groceries at a Small(er) Business?

Obviously.

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

On Oct 14, 7:41*pm, Michel Boucher > wrote:
> Roger1 > wrote :
>
> >> I'm all for supporting local
> >> businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?
>
> >> Jill
>
> > To support a local business?
>
> Odd how that simple thought eludes some people.
>
Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
decision regularly.

maxine in ri

maxine in ri > wrote in news:65f28b1d-cb89-44e9-93c1-
:

>> >> I'm all for supporting local
>> >> businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?
>>
>> >> Jill
>>
>> > To support a local business?
>>
>> Odd how that simple thought eludes some people.
>>
> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
> decision regularly.

Yeah, but not having the means implies you have no choice. We're talking
about a choice (obviously when the opportunity is available to you).

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

maxine in ri wrote:

> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
> decision regularly.

I am comfortable enough. I don't have to count my pennies when I go
shopping, but I find that some of the small, local grocery stores are
better value. As mentioned in a previous post, one family run business
has the best prices around for chicken. It is always cheaper, and often
has even better sale prices. AAMOF fact, I have to make a trip to the
dump today and wills top there on the way back and pick up some chicken.
My local family run butcher store has limited selection, but great
quality and low prices. I go there especially for their bacon. It is the
best I have ever tasted, and it is a lot cheaper than the grocery stores.

Major grocery store chains are heavy into marketing. They have loss
leaders and sales on stuff I don't usually get. Some have lower prices
on some things but higher prices on others. I have to keep track of
which has what I want and their relative prices. I confess to be an
impulsive shopper and if I go to different stores to take advantage of
their lower prices on some items I will just end up buying a lot
more...and spending a lot more.

maxine in ri wrote:
> On Oct 14, 7:41 pm, Michel Boucher > wrote:
>> Roger1 > wrote :
>>
>>>> I'm all for supporting local
>>>> businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?
>>>> Jill
>>> To support a local business?
>> Odd how that simple thought eludes some people.
>>
> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
> decision regularly.
>
> maxine in ri

I don't understand "cheap or local". If you only consider big box
marketing they are clearly the best. There are lots of local merchants
that make or sell quality products at good prices. They simply don't
have the money to tell you that 100 times a day like big box does.

I mentioned in this thread about a great local family owned market. They
have a meat department and do not sell walmart (and now most big box)
style adulterated meat, great produce etc and very competitive prices. I
often mention the place to people and get either really dumb looks like
you just told them the sky is made of jello or even dumber statements
such as "I never heard of it, it must be dirty.." because it is contrary
to what big box told them.

Dave Smith > wrote in news:4ad87909$0$1627
:

> Major grocery store chains are heavy into marketing. They have loss
> leaders and sales on stuff I don't usually get. Some have lower prices
> on some things but higher prices on others. I have to keep track of
> which has what I want and their relative prices. I confess to be an
> impulsive shopper and if I go to different stores to take advantage of
> their lower prices on some items I will just end up buying a lot
> more...and spending a lot more.

The Great Canadian Superstore (aka Loblaws) chain in Alberta used to offer
50$ off an order of 200$ or more. So basically you got 250$ worth for 200
$. The problem for inner city dwellers like us was transportation. All
these big box places are out by the bourgeois boonies.

Single people would hardly benefit from that. It really appealed to
families with a large enough car to carry 250$ worth of crap.

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:04:19 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:

> (Steve Pope) wrote in news:hb89jq$cu6$1
> @blue.rahul.net:
>
>>> Before I start, really should point out that "to grocery shop" is
>>> not an appropriate verb form in English.
>>
>> Disagree.
>
> And I disagree with your disagreement.

you would prefer 'to shop for groceries'? six of one, half a dozen of the
other to me.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT), maxine in ri wrote:

> On Oct 14, 7:41*pm, Michel Boucher > wrote:
>> Roger1 > wrote :
>>
>>>> I'm all for supporting local
>>>> businesses but if I can get it for less money why should I pay more?
>>
>>>> Jill
>>
>>> To support a local business?
>>
>> Odd how that simple thought eludes some people.
>>
> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
> decision regularly.
>
> maxine in ri

for others, the question is 'do you shoplift groceries at...'

your pal,
blake

Michel Boucher wrote:

> The Great Canadian Superstore (aka Loblaws) chain in Alberta used to offer
> 50$ off an order of 200$ or more. So basically you got 250$ worth for 200
> $. The problem for inner city dwellers like us was transportation. All
> these big box places are out by the bourgeois boonies.
>
> Single people would hardly benefit from that. It really appealed to
> families with a large enough car to carry 250$ worth of crap.

It is not a conspiracy. They can afford to give discounts like that
because they are out in the boonies where land is cheaper and they can
provide parking.

Dave Smith > wrote in news:4ad8a1dc$0$1605
:

>> Single people would hardly benefit from that. It really appealed to
>> families with a large enough car to carry 250$ worth of crap.
>
> It is not a conspiracy. They can afford to give discounts like that
> because they are out in the boonies where land is cheaper and they can
> provide parking.

I didn't suggest it was a conspiracy, only pointed out that not everyone
could take advantage of that, for different reasons. But now that you
brought it up...conspiracy...hmmm :-) There's no smoke without fire...

--

Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest
of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest
good of everyone. - John Maynard Keynes

Michel Boucher > wrote in message
...
> [..] There's no smoke without fire...

Only when you bring your own matches and gasoline...

The Ranger

maxine in ri wrote:

> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
> decision regularly.

I make around fifteen thousand dollars a year and I have a kid and a
magazine to support, but I shop locally whenever I can. I think it's a
myth that shopping locally means you pay more.

Serene

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On Oct 13, 7:03*pm, (jj) wrote:
> I'm curious how many of you regularly shop at a small(er)/non-chain
> grocery store for "staple" food items?
>
> By small, how about we say this means the grocery business only has
> locations in your city/town. *(so no regional chains)


For bread, some kinds of cheese, most meats, coffee, tea, sometimes
sugar, any Asian product ( 2 good stores within a 5 minute walk),
sometimes vegetables and fruit.

Err, let's make this simpler. About the only thing I always buy at a
chain store is flour and, of course, since I live in Ontario, beer
wines and other alcohol products.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> maxine in ri wrote:
>
>> Depends on how much disposable income you have. I get the impression
>> that the majority of posters here are comfortably situated and can
>> make the choice of either cheap or local and not be in danger of
>> losing their house. I do have friends who make that sort of
>> decision regularly.
>
> I make around fifteen thousand dollars a year and I have a kid and a
> magazine to support, but I shop locally whenever I can. I think it's a
> myth that shopping locally means you pay more.
>
> Serene
>

And the quality is often much better!

-R

"brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:56:44 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>
>>There's a small health food co-op on main street in town. No meats, just
>>two
>>aisles of veggies, nuts and flours/cereals, etc.
>>
>>It's so small I don't think the neighbors know they're there.
>>
>>Andy
>
>
> "Health Food", what idiotic nomenclature... labeling anything health
> food is just a scammer's concept for charging double for half the
> quality.

Nope. That's what 'Organic' is for. Twice ther price and 'you really don't
know if it's true.'

Kswck said...

>
> "brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:56:44 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>
>>>There's a small health food co-op on main street in town. No meats, just
>>>two
>>>aisles of veggies, nuts and flours/cereals, etc.
>>>
>>>It's so small I don't think the neighbors know they're there.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>
>>
>> "Health Food", what idiotic nomenclature... labeling anything health
>> food is just a scammer's concept for charging double for half the
>> quality.
>
> Nope. That's what 'Organic' is for. Twice ther price and 'you really
don't
> know if it's true.'


Kswck,

That and the people working and shopping there didn't look entirely too
healthy.

I shopped there exactly once.

Best,

Andy

In article >,
(jj) wrote:

> I'm curious how many of you regularly shop at a small(er)/non-chain
> grocery store for "staple" food items?
>
> By small, how about we say this means the grocery business only has
> locations in your city/town. (so no regional chains)
>
> Could you also mention where in the world you live?
>
> Alas, I am stuck with chain stores here in Las Vegas, NV. About 2
> decades ago when I lived in Davis Sq, Somerville, MA there was a
> produce shop and a butcher shop just a few blocks away. The produce
> shop was slightly more expensive than the chains but the quality was
> also better. The owner often ran the register and knew his regulars.
>
> The butcher shop was actually cheaper than the chains, the quality
> about the same and the variety better. I'm not sure if the owner was
> onsite.

In my area, there are only two locally owned grocery stores. One is in
an area where I rarely go. The other is only a mile from me, near the
train station, but every time I go there, its closed. For example, one
day after work last week, I dropped off a colleague who lives near that
little store. I figured I would go in and pick up something for dinner.
No such luck. It was closed already for the day and I was there shortly
before 6:00pm. So I ended up picking up a sandwich at a 24 hour
convenience store a half block away. For 90% of the groceries I buy, I
end up shopping at Wegmans.

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:57:30 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Kswck said...
>
>>
>> "brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:56:44 -0500, Andy > wrote:
>>>
>>>>There's a small health food co-op on main street in town. No meats, just
>>>>two
>>>>aisles of veggies, nuts and flours/cereals, etc.
>>>>
>>>>It's so small I don't think the neighbors know they're there.
>>>>
>>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> "Health Food", what idiotic nomenclature... labeling anything health
>>> food is just a scammer's concept for charging double for half the
>>> quality.
>>
>> Nope. That's what 'Organic' is for. Twice ther price and 'you really
> don't
>> know if it's true.'
>
> Kswck,
>
> That and the people working and shopping there didn't look entirely too
> healthy.
>
> I shopped there exactly once.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

plus they're all fags!

blake