OK, I learned something today...

When we think Boboli, Americans picture
http://www.viewpoints.com/images/rev...-9499_full.jpg

When the rest of the world (ok, Europe) thinks Boboli they picture
http://www.secret-tuscany.com/data/f...lazzo_pitt.jpg

I thought Boboli was a made up name. Now I know somebody needs their
kneecaps broken.



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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> OK, I learned something today...
>
> When we think Boboli, Americans picture
> http://www.viewpoints.com/images/rev...-9499_full.jpg
>
> When the rest of the world (ok, Europe) thinks Boboli they picture
> http://www.secret-tuscany.com/data/f...lazzo_pitt.jpg
>
> I thought Boboli was a made up name. Now I know somebody needs their
> kneecaps broken.
>
>
>
I have a photo of me at Boboli beside the Il Tribolo sculpture of the
tortoise with the fat naked guy riding it. I will send it when you get
home. My heart aches for Florence, most beautiful place in the world.

In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> I have a photo of me at Boboli beside the Il Tribolo sculpture of the
> tortoise with the fat naked guy riding it.

I couldn't wait and googled a photo. The turtle appears to be puking at
the fat guy's impropriety.

leo

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "cybercat" > wrote:
>
>> I have a photo of me at Boboli beside the Il Tribolo sculpture of the
>> tortoise with the fat naked guy riding it.
>
> I couldn't wait and googled a photo. The turtle appears to be puking at
> the fat guy's impropriety.
>

That's him. Do you know why they called the sculptor Il Tribolo?

In article >,
"cyberpurrs" > wrote:

> That's him. Do you know why they called the sculptor Il Tribolo?

Tell me! ;-)

leo

"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
> OK, I learned something today...
>
> When we think Boboli, Americans picture
>
> When the rest of the world (ok, Europe) thinks Boboli they picture
> http://www.secret-tuscany.com/data/f...lazzo_pitt.jpg
>
> I thought Boboli was a made up name. Now I know somebody needs their>
> kneecaps broken.


I forgot about those!
Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
not a pizza town!
You can eat very well in Florence for a lot of money, quite well for a
normal amount of money and badly in more places than any other Italian city
that I know. Looking at current guides like Slow Travel is very important
there.
I know I gave you at least one recommendation, three others at all levels
are named Cibreo. (Restaurant, trattoria and bar all same folks.)

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> OK, I learned something today...
>>
>> When we think Boboli, Americans picture
>>
>> When the rest of the world (ok, Europe) thinks Boboli they picture
>> http://www.secret-tuscany.com/data/f...lazzo_pitt.jpg
>>
>> I thought Boboli was a made up name. Now I know somebody needs their>
>> kneecaps broken.
>
>
> I forgot about those!
> Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
> not a pizza town!

Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "cyberpurrs" > wrote:
>
>> That's him. Do you know why they called the sculptor Il Tribolo?
>
> Tell me! ;-)
>
Because he had a fondness for other men's wives. It means Mr. Trouble,
roughly translated. Is this a working email address?

"cybercat"

> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.

Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat"
>
>> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.
>
> Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.
Oh. Right. After yesterday I thought I was in alt.mentalhealth.diagnose.Andy

"cybercat" ha scritto nel messaggio
>
> "Giusi" wrote in message

>> "cybercat"
>>
>>> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.
>>
>> Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.

> Oh. Right. After yesterday I thought I was in
> alt.mentalhealth.diagnose.Andy

Not worth the effort, IMO.
However, even in an art glut one must eat. Because of the neverending
stream of feckless toursists, (and of course the others, is there are word
for not feckless?) bad places can flourish without going broke. That's not
true of any other Italian city that I know.

"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>> "Giusi" wrote in message
>
>>> "cybercat"
>>>
>>>> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.
>>>
>>> Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.
>
>> Oh. Right. After yesterday I thought I was in
>> alt.mentalhealth.diagnose.Andy
>
> Not worth the effort, IMO.
> However, even in an art glut one must eat. Because of the neverending
> stream of feckless toursists, (and of course the others, is there are word
> for not feckless?) bad places can flourish without going broke. That's
> not true of any other Italian city that I know.

I envy you, truly. When I was in Florence I had one meal in the dumbest
place possible--the square outside Palazzo Vecchio--it was that touristy
dish with the peas. Steak and peas, with an Italian name, if I recall
correctly. Most of the time I found local markets outside the tourist area
and lived on hunks of cheese, bread, fruit, tomatoes, and red wine. We used
to go home to the pensione and just spread the stuff out and feast. I tended
to sleep when the Italians did so did not partake of the little pizza places
kept open for Americans and Germans at our lunch time. I had lovely Pizza in
Venice one sleepy spring afternoon when I could not wait until evening. I
ate in an outside area whose "roof" was thick grape vines over latticework.
A cat named Luna wandered overhead and came down for petting.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:50:02 -0400, cybercat wrote:

> "Giusi" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "cybercat"
>>
>>> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.
>>
>> Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.

> Oh. Right. After yesterday I thought I was in alt.mentalhealth.diagnose.Andy

who has that kind of time?

your pal,
blake

"cybercat" > wrote in message
> When I was in Florence I had one meal in the dumbest place possible--the
> square outside Palazzo Vecchio--

As did I, but with no regrets.We knew going in it would be pricey and
probably not as good as elsewhere, but it was a ice day, nice setting, first
time in Florence. The memories are worth the price of admission.

Not far from there is a leather goods store owned by an ex-Texan married to
a local. We've bought there on a couple of trips. She guided us to
Anita's, a small place around the corner frequented by the local shop
owners. Fabulous food at 1/3 the price.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:50:02 -0400, cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "cybercat"
>>>
>>>> Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.
>>>
>>> Of course, but this is a FOOD group, ergo the reference to FOOD.
>
>> Oh. Right. After yesterday I thought I was in
>> alt.mentalhealth.diagnose.Andy
>
> who has that kind of time?
>
Lynn from Fargo.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>> When I was in Florence I had one meal in the dumbest place possible--the
>> square outside Palazzo Vecchio--
>
> As did I, but with no regrets.We knew going in it would be pricey and
> probably not as good as elsewhere, but it was a ice day, nice setting,
> first time in Florence. The memories are worth the price of admission.

This is exactly why I did!! I was just overcome. I had just toured the old
palace.

>
> Not far from there is a leather goods store owned by an ex-Texan married
> to a local. We've bought there on a couple of trips.

I bought the coolest boots near there! Wonder if it was the same place?

>She guided us to Anita's, a small place around the corner frequented by the
>local shop owners. Fabulous food at 1/3 the price.
>

I truly hope to return and try this one day. Thanks.

In article >,
"cybercat" > wrote:

> Because he had a fondness for other men's wives. It means Mr. Trouble,
> roughly translated. Is this a working email address?

Yes. I was more interested in the lovely girl than the fat guy on the
turtle ;-) I've never been out of the continental US. Hardly out of the
State of Nevada. But my state has its charms other than gambling and
houses of ill repute.

leo

Giusi > wrote:

> You can eat very well in Florence for a lot of money, quite well for a
> normal amount of money and badly in more places than any other Italian city
> that I know. Looking at current guides like Slow Travel is very important
> there.

In Florence, it used to be - and probably still is - a good idea to look
for trattorie or osterie around the markets (e.g. mercato di
Sant'Ambrogio), particularly those mobbed by the locals. Tourists are
generally not interested in the markets, as they eat in restaurants, and
so do not often go to such places. Also, for a snack, or even a
substantial meal, one should find one of the trippai. A trippaio is a
tripe seller with a cart or a kiosk. Buy a panino con lampredotto
(abomasum, the fourth stomach) from them, or even a plate of trippa alla
fiorentina. Those who unreasonably avoid tripe, can order a panino con
porchetta. There is nothing more typically Florentine, foodwise, not
expensive, either.

Victor

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "cybercat" > wrote:
>
>> Because he had a fondness for other men's wives. It means Mr. Trouble,
>> roughly translated. Is this a working email address?
>
> Yes. I was more interested in the lovely girl than the fat guy on the
> turtle ;-)

Thank you, how sweet.

>I've never been out of the continental US. Hardly out of the
> State of Nevada. But my state has its charms other than gambling and
> houses of ill repute.
>

Clearly it does. <eg>

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:03:35 +0200, "Giusi" >
wrote:

>Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
>not a pizza town!

Oh, man... we found that out. My mission is to have pizza everywhere
I have a chance and the pizza in Florence was the pits.

>You can eat very well in Florence for a lot of money, quite well for a
>normal amount of money and badly in more places than any other Italian city
>that I know. Looking at current guides like Slow Travel is very important
>there.

We just ate on the go. It was fine, nothing to rave about though.

>I know I gave you at least one recommendation, three others at all levels
>are named Cibreo. (Restaurant, trattoria and bar all same folks.)
>
We were basically in "Old Town" for a few hours. I'd like to return
on my own for a few days to really see the place because what I saw
didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just
big blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a
bench to sit on.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:27:00 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Giusi" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "sf" ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> OK, I learned something today...
>>>
>>> When we think Boboli, Americans picture
>>>
>>> When the rest of the world (ok, Europe) thinks Boboli they picture
>>> http://www.secret-tuscany.com/data/f...lazzo_pitt.jpg
>>>
>>> I thought Boboli was a made up name. Now I know somebody needs their>
>>> kneecaps broken.
>>
>>
>> I forgot about those!
>> Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
>> not a pizza town!
>
>Oh FFS. There is more in life than food.

She knows I'm trying to keep my rfc posts about the trip (at least the
initial ones) food oriented. Boboli was my Florence food reference.





--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:33:27 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

> Not far from there is a leather goods store owned by an ex-Texan married to
>a local. We've bought there on a couple of trips. She guided us to
>Anita's, a small place around the corner frequented by the local shop
>owners. Fabulous food at 1/3 the price.

<sigh> I could have used this information yesterday. As it is,
hubby resisted buying an exquisite leather bomber jacket priced at 450
euro. If it was in American dollars, he would have bought it. I
grabbed their card just in case he changes his mind.



--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
> We were basically in "Old Town" for a few hours. I'd like to return
> on my own for a few days to really see the place because what I saw
> didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just
> big blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a
> bench to sit on.

That's a shame because there are some nice places and plenty of benches to
sit on. My wife cannot walk long distances so we found plenty of those
benches along the way. We've been thee twice and would go back again. If
you do, rent a car and tour the area too. Nice as Florence is, there is
some beautiful countryside and small towns around it.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:03:35 +0200, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>

> on my own for a few days to really see the place because what I saw
> didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just
> big blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a
> bench to sit on.

It kind of helps if you know the history. But to each his own.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:29:47 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:03:35 +0200, "Giusi" >
>wrote:
>
>>Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
>>not a pizza town!
>
>Oh, man... we found that out. My mission is to have pizza everywhere
>I have a chance and the pizza in Florence was the pits.
>
>>You can eat very well in Florence for a lot of money, quite well for a
>>normal amount of money and badly in more places than any other Italian city
>>that I know. Looking at current guides like Slow Travel is very important
>>there.
>
>We just ate on the go. It was fine, nothing to rave about though.
>
>>I know I gave you at least one recommendation, three others at all levels
>>are named Cibreo. (Restaurant, trattoria and bar all same folks.)
>>
>We were basically in "Old Town" for a few hours. I'd like to return
>on my own for a few days to really see the place because what I saw
>didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just
>big blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a
>bench to sit on.

I love Florence/Firenze--not necessarily for the food but for the
ambience! I mean ---think of art and that ought to fill your belly
and your soul.

aloha,
Cea

"pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:29:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:03:35 +0200, "Giusi" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
>>>not a pizza town!
>>
>>Oh, man... we found that out. My mission is to have pizza everywhere
>>I have a chance and the pizza in Florence was the pits.
>>
>>>You can eat very well in Florence for a lot of money, quite well for a
>>>normal amount of money and badly in more places than any other Italian
>>>city
>>>that I know. Looking at current guides like Slow Travel is very
>>>important
>>>there.
>>
>>We just ate on the go. It was fine, nothing to rave about though.
>>
>>>I know I gave you at least one recommendation, three others at all levels
>>>are named Cibreo. (Restaurant, trattoria and bar all same folks.)
>>>
>>We were basically in "Old Town" for a few hours. I'd like to return
>>on my own for a few days to really see the place because what I saw
>>didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just
>>big blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a
>>bench to sit on.
>
> I love Florence/Firenze--not necessarily for the food but for the
> ambience! I mean ---think of art and that ought to fill your belly
> and your soul.
>

Firenze fits it so much better.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:03:35 +0200, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
>
>>Just remember that Florence is not a foodie destination and definitely is
>>not a pizza town!
>
> Oh, man... we found that out. My mission is to have pizza everywhere
> I have a chance and the pizza in Florence was the pits.
>

I have to object to this, since Judith did not. There are many places to eat
in Florence that have reasonably priced regional dishes. They will never be
pizza because that is a southern Italy dish. Venetians sneered and called
Florentines "bean eaters" when I was there. The cuisine is ancient and based
on traditional "peasant" fare. Pizza does not play a role. I have to say,
understanding the culture/food/customs of the place you visit is essential
to your appreciation and enjoyment.

"sf"
I'd like to return> on my own for a few days to really see the place
because what I saw
> didn't impress me at all. I hated the piazzas I saw. They were just> big
> blank squares, no decoration or greenery of any kind - not even a> bench
> to sit on.

Italian piazzas are not parks at all. They are gathering places usually.
In my much smaller city only one of ours has grass and a tree but also a
sack dispenser and dog poo container. Dogs have a hard time finding a place
to go here.

Florence is a city filled with the wealth of the Renaissance. She has more
art you would recognize than any other city in the world, probably. A few
hours wouldn't even get you through the Uffizzi, where you would see
Boticelli's "Venus Rising" and "Primavera" in a single corner of a single
room. At L'accademia you'd see Michelangelo's David and his slaves. The
whole museum scene is like that. You want green you go to Piazzale
Michelangelo or Boboli Gardens.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:35:10 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" >
wrote:

>That's a shame because there are some nice places and plenty of benches to
>sit on. My wife cannot walk long distances so we found plenty of those
>benches along the way.

Well, this trip is to get an overview of Italy and see where we want
to return. Florence has so much history that a few hours can't begin
to do it any justice. It's worth a redo.

>We've been thee twice and would go back again. If
>you do, rent a car and tour the area too. Nice as Florence is, there is
>some beautiful countryside and small towns around it.
>
Amen to that. Everybody who went to Lucca had nice things to say
about it. We've been under the weather the last few days, so we opted
out of that tour because we wanted to be feeling ok by Venice.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:12:36 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> In article >,
> "cybercat" > wrote:
>
>> Because he had a fondness for other men's wives. It means Mr. Trouble,
>> roughly translated. Is this a working email address?
>
> Yes. I was more interested in the lovely girl than the fat guy on the
> turtle ;-) I've never been out of the continental US. Hardly out of the
> State of Nevada. But my state has its charms other than gambling and
> houses of ill repute.
>
> leo

wayne newton!

your pal,
blake

"sf" > wrote
>
> Well, this trip is to get an overview of Italy and see where we want
> to return. Florence has so much history that a few hours can't begin
> to do it any justice. It's worth a redo.

Excellent!
>
>>We've been thee twice and would go back again. If
>>you do, rent a car and tour the area too. Nice as Florence is, there is
>>some beautiful countryside and small towns around it.

Tuscany is amazing, and similar in some ways to Provence in France.
>>
> Amen to that. Everybody who went to Lucca had nice things to say
> about it.

I went to Lucca. It is sweet. A small town, the birthplace of an Italian
painter/sculptor whose name I cannot recall. They had his big anniversary
celebration several years late because they just could not get all the
preparations done on time. Gotta love Italians.

?We've been under the weather the last few days, so we opted
> out of that tour because we wanted to be feeling ok by Venice.
>

I envy you so much. Spring and fall are the times to go. Venice is
funny--it's a hoot! Very mishmashy culturally compared with Florence, and
that makes sense because every since Florence kicked its ass some 500 years
ago, it has been largely no more than a tourist town. With all those
port-town exotic influences. When you see San Marcos, look at the horses on
the facade. They were stolen from another Italian city, as were many things,
and just kind of slapped onto the facade. Will you get to see Sienna? I
think Sienna is more striking than Lucca, which is small and sweet. The view
from Sienna's museum (keep following the signs that say "panorama") is
heartrendingly beautiful, esp. on an overcast day. It's up on the roof, and
you are surrounded by roof peaks and towers with statues of saints on them.
On a background of lovely hilly countryside. You would have to be able to
climb very hilly streets to enjoy Sienna.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:09:48 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:12:36 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "cybercat" > wrote:
>>
>>> Because he had a fondness for other men's wives. It means Mr. Trouble,
>>> roughly translated. Is this a working email address?
>>
>> Yes. I was more interested in the lovely girl than the fat guy on the
>> turtle ;-) I've never been out of the continental US. Hardly out of the
>> State of Nevada. But my state has its charms other than gambling and
>> houses of ill repute.
>>
>> leo
>
>wayne newton!
>
Fig Newton!

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:20:55 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>When see San Marcos, look at the horses on
>the facade. They were stolen from another Italian city, as were many things,
>and just kind of slapped onto the facade.

Really? So that's what they did with plunder in those days... it was
cheap decoration. Heh!

>Will you get to see Sienna?

Nope. DD visited Sienna and fell in love with it. It is her favorite
place in Italy. I will visit someday.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:20:55 -0400, "cybercat" >

>
> Nope. DD visited Sienna and fell in love with it. It is her favorite
> place in Italy. I will visit someday.
>

Here's hoping there are plenty more visits for you ... and for me!

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:20:55 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>When see San Marcos, look at the horses on
>>the facade. They were stolen from another Italian city,

They came to Venice from Constantinople or Istanbul as it is now called.
But were there as the result of being moved about before then. They
were sent to Venice by Dodge Dandolo as were many things, The horses
were long displayed at the Hippodrome of Constantinople, and in 1204
Doge Enrico Dandolo sent them back to Venice as part of the loot sacked
from Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade. They were brought to Paris by
Napoleon in 1797 but returned to Venice in 1815. After a long
restoration, since the 1990s they have been kept in St MarkÕs Museum
(inside the basilica). The horses now on the facade of the cathedral are
bronze replicas. By some accounts they were originally part of one of
Roman arch's of Trajan's time, possibly Ancona "Rome's greatest Adriatic
port."

>>and just kind of slapped onto the facade.
>
>
> Really? So that's what they did with plunder in those days... it was
> cheap decoration. Heh!

Hardly cheap! but definitely decoration, however, in a military culture,
trophies are SOP. Art is routinely looted in war if not destroyed as an
act there of. Remember the Afghan Buddha's?

The Russians still hold a hugh amount of looted art from W.W.II. And
justify themselves in keeping it and not even looking for descendants of
original owners.

>
>
>>Will you get to see Sienna?
>
>
> Nope. DD visited Sienna and fell in love with it. It is her favorite
> place in Italy. I will visit someday.
>
>
Naples? *putting Dean Martin on and envying SF*



I have heard that one can take the "Orient Express" from Edinburgh to
Venice, one train, from Scotland to Italy.

Last i heard it don't go, in all its finery and 'de luxe' accommodations
and amenities to Constntinople but i understand that is the goal.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
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"sf" > wrote in message
>
> Well, this trip is to get an overview of Italy and see where we want
> to return. Florence has so much history that a few hours can't begin
> to do it any justice. It's worth a redo.
>
>>We've been thee twice and would go back again. If
>>you do, rent a car and tour the area too. Nice as Florence is, there is
>>some beautiful countryside and small towns around it.
>>
> Amen to that. Everybody who went to Lucca had nice things to say
> about it. We've been under the weather the last few days, so we opted
> out of that tour because we wanted to be feeling ok by Venice.

Get some rest as Venice is all walking. Consider taking the Vaparetto to the
opposite end of where you are and walking back. Be sure to detour down
some of the side streets too. It will give you a better idea of how the
locals live. It will also be one of the most expensive cities on the tour.
Of course San Marco is not expensive, prices there are astronomical!

Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>"sf" > wrote in message

>> Amen to that. Everybody who went to Lucca had nice things to say
>> about it. We've been under the weather the last few days, so we opted
>> out of that tour because we wanted to be feeling ok by Venice.

The single best restaurant meal I've had in Italy, and one
of the best anywhere, was in Lucca.

>Get some rest as Venice is all walking. Consider taking the Vaparetto to the
>opposite end of where you are and walking back. Be sure to detour down
>some of the side streets too. It will give you a better idea of how the
>locals live. It will also be one of the most expensive cities on the tour.
>Of course San Marco is not expensive, prices there are astronomical!

I understand there is now a huge, garish electronic billboard
in Piazza San Marco. I'd like to think this is an untrue rumor
though.

Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message >
> I understand there is now a huge, garish electronic billboard
> in Piazza San Marco. I'd like to think this is an untrue rumor
> though.
>
> Steve
>

That would be sad, but, some would say it is progress.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >
>> I understand there is now a huge, garish electronic billboard
>> in Piazza San Marco. I'd like to think this is an untrue rumor
>> though.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> That would be sad, but, some would say it is progress.
It's a huge banner, actually. Advertising Swatch.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
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> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message >
>>> I understand there is now a huge, garish electronic billboard
>>> in Piazza San Marco. I'd like to think this is an untrue rumor
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> That would be sad, but, some would say it is progress.
> It's a huge banner, actually. Advertising Swatch.
>

OK, that would be more important. It could hide them dirty statues. I
thought they had regulations on stuff like that.