Go here
http://www.pctechbytes.com/2009/08/0...ecovery-disks/

Get your self sorted Keep the CD's (away from the light and use GOOD
quality CD media )
Appears a couple of threads about same thing

HTH
Cheers

Pits09 > wrote in news:5fe366aa-9dfa-4fd8-85ff-
:

> Pits09



Pits09 ,

Thanks for that tidbit!

I'll ring them up for disks, just in case I flub something up in the
process!

OB Food: Leftover Curly's pulled pork on a burger bun with a tall glass of
ice cold fruit punch gatorade.

Best,

Andy

Pits09 > wrote in news:5fe366aa-9dfa-4fd8-85ff-
:

> Go here
> http://www.pctechbytes.com/2009/08/0...ecovery-disks/
>
> Get your self sorted Keep the CD's (away from the light and use GOOD
> quality CD media )
> Appears a couple of threads about same thing
>
> HTH
> Cheers


D'oh! "Our offices are currently closed."

HA!!!

Best,

Andy

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Pits09 > wrote in news:5fe366aa-9dfa-4fd8-85ff-
> :
>
>> Pits09
>
>
>
> Pits09 ,
>
> Thanks for that tidbit!
>
> I'll ring them up for disks, just in case I flub something up in the
> process!
>
> OB Food: Leftover Curly's pulled pork on a burger bun with a tall glass of
> ice cold fruit punch gatorade.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees. I
wish all computer companies did that.
Janet

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in
m:

>
> "Andy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pits09 > wrote in news:5fe366aa-9dfa-4fd8-85ff-
>> :
>>
>>> Pits09
>>
>>
>>
>> Pits09 ,
>>
>> Thanks for that tidbit!
>>
>> I'll ring them up for disks, just in case I flub something up in the
>> process!
>>
>> OB Food: Leftover Curly's pulled pork on a burger bun with a tall
>> glass of ice cold fruit punch gatorade.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
> My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's
> knees. I wish all computer companies did that.
> Janet


Janet,

My Dell 'puter didn't include restore CDs either, now that I think about
it. Since 1995, I didn't require them but a quick call early after
purchase put them in my mailbox a couple of days later. I tried to use
them to bring it back to life a couple days ago with no luck.

Best,

Andy

Andy > wrote in :

> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in
> m:
>
>>
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Pits09 > wrote in news:5fe366aa-9dfa-4fd8-85ff-
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Pits09
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pits09 ,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that tidbit!
>>>
>>> I'll ring them up for disks, just in case I flub something up in the
>>> process!
>>>
>>> OB Food: Leftover Curly's pulled pork on a burger bun with a tall
>>> glass of ice cold fruit punch gatorade.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>> My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's
>> knees. I wish all computer companies did that.
>> Janet
>
>
> Janet,
>
> My Dell 'puter didn't include restore CDs either, now that I think
about
> it. Since 1995, I didn't require them but a quick call early after
> purchase put them in my mailbox a couple of days later. I tried to use
> them to bring it back to life a couple days ago with no luck.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy


OOPS! I meant 2005, not 1995!!!

Andy

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:21 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees. I
>wish all computer companies did that.

I've never used one. When my computers die, a recovery disk is of no
use.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:21 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees.
>>I
>>wish all computer companies did that.
>
> I've never used one. When my computers die, a recovery disk is of no
> use.
>
You'll note I said it was my first computer. . .I used it like spring
housecleaning. Format and recover. Bingo. No dust, no crap. 'o}
Janet

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:52 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:21 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees.
>>>I
>>>wish all computer companies did that.
>>
>> I've never used one. When my computers die, a recovery disk is of no
>> use.
>>
>You'll note I said it was my first computer. . .I used it like spring
>housecleaning. Format and recover. Bingo. No dust, no crap. 'o}

I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
problem for some people, but I don't do it.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:52 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:21 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees.
>>>>I
>>>>wish all computer companies did that.
>>>
>>> I've never used one. When my computers die, a recovery disk is of no
>>> use.
>>>
>>You'll note I said it was my first computer. . .I used it like spring
>>housecleaning. Format and recover. Bingo. No dust, no crap. 'o}
>
> I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
> problem for some people, but I don't do it.
>
But I knew absolutely nothing about PC's. My organization was non-existent,
I was attracted to every pretty little download. Formatting forced me to
organize my thoughts and my data. Made me make sure that I knew where
everything was, how it got there and what I needed to do to get it back and
put it where it was appropriate. It was a great learning tool.
Janet

On Oct 26, 11:22*pm, "Janet Bostwick" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:34:52 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> > > wrote:
>
> >>"sf" > wrote in message
> >>news > >>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:21 -0600, "Janet Bostwick"
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>>My first computer (HP) had a recovery disc and that was the bee's knees.
> >>>>I
> >>>>wish all computer companies did that.
>
> >>> I've never used one. *When my computers die, a recovery disk is of no
> >>> use.
>
> >>You'll note I said it was my first computer. . .I used it like spring
> >>housecleaning. *Format and recover. * Bingo. *No dust, no crap. 'o}
>
> > I've never reformatted either. *I know that's the answer to every
> > problem for some people, but I don't do it.
>
> But I knew absolutely nothing about PC's. *My organization was non-existent,
> I was attracted to every pretty little download. *Formatting forced me to
> organize my thoughts and my data. *Made me make sure that I knew where
> everything was, how it got there and what I needed to do to get it back and
> put it where it was appropriate. *It was a great learning tool.
> Janet

Janet, nice post . Long may you continue to learn .
When finished -can you teach me

As stated in another post
any knowledge gained in the most has been by digging myself out of
holes I dug myself into .

Yet for an old mainframe bloke this is a disgrace .
Program the TV ! Nah get a kid to do it type person

On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:

> I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
> problem for some people, but I don't do it.

You just buy a new computer ever couple years.

Your defense of people's ignorance of computers is appalling. The
only reason people keep buying new computers is because they haven't a
clue on how to use what they already have. My newest computer is
circa 2001. Works just fine and I've no doubt it does everthing yours
does and just as well. It's why Microsoft has a monolpoly and can
continue it, people being too stupid or gutless to say, "No! I DON'T
need another new computer, monitor, operating system, etc, just
because you say I do." By your reasoning, we should only watch the tv
programs we're allowed to and only listen to the music we're allowed
to and only eat the food we're allowed to. And you were a TEACHER,
ferchryneoutloud. What did you teach your students? Not to read!?

nb

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:49:50 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:
>
>> I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
>> problem for some people, but I don't do it.
>
>You just buy a new computer ever couple years.
>
>Your defense of people's ignorance of computers is appalling. The
>only reason people keep buying new computers is because they haven't a
>clue on how to use what they already have. My newest computer is
>circa 2001. Works just fine and I've no doubt it does everthing yours
>does and just as well. It's why Microsoft has a monolpoly and can
>continue it, people being too stupid or gutless to say, "No! I DON'T
>need another new computer, monitor, operating system, etc, just
>because you say I do." By your reasoning, we should only watch the tv
>programs we're allowed to and only listen to the music we're allowed
>to and only eat the food we're allowed to. And you were a TEACHER,
>ferchryneoutloud. What did you teach your students? Not to read!?
>
Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
dies and not a day earlier. No point putting a new part in an old
machine, you're making too much work for yourself updating this and
that to be compatible. I also think reformatting is the lazy way out
of problems. I back out of them the way I got in and have never had
to reformat. That makes me smarter than you. Are you happy now? I
am.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:


> Damn, you're belligerent.

Well, I get a tad bit upset when an educator blatantly advocates
remaining ignorant.

> I buy new computers when the hard drive dies and not a day earlier.

To dump a perfectly good computer because the hard drive (HDD) went
out is insane. It's like tossing a whole home entertainment center
because the dvd player quit working or buying a new car because a tire
went flat. It's absurd!

The only reason it makes any sense at all is because Microsoft has
turned owning a practical and helpful device like a computer into a
legal rights war. You pay good money for a tool, which you then own
outright, and M$ dictates to you how and when you can use it. Who
would tolerate such arrogance? No sane person. It used to be you
could buy the operating system (OS) on a disc and if you had a problem
with the hardware, you replaced/repaired the part then reloaded the
OS. No biggy. No more hassle than setting an email acct.


Monopolies don't like you having a choice or doing as you please with
your own computer. They will make changing that HDD just as difficult
and problematic as you allow them to. They want full control and you
are encouraging it. Keep the masses ignorant and allow only the high
priests to have knowledge. And you an educator. Un - be - lievable!!

> No point putting a new part in an old machine....

Total nonsense! Changing an HDD is not much harder than changing a
light bulb, once you know how. A computer is not a magic sacred box.
It's just a tool, not a gift from the gods.

As for tossing your computer, it should be a crime:
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/

This is the tip of the iceberg. Many countries around the world allow
this. I hope you don't consider yourself a friend of ecology.

nb

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:44:17 -0700, sf > wrote:

-->On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:49:50 GMT, notbob > wrote:
-->
-->>On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:
-->>
-->>> I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
-->>> problem for some people, but I don't do it.
-->>
-->>You just buy a new computer ever couple years.
-->>
-->>Your defense of people's ignorance of computers is appalling. The
-->>only reason people keep buying new computers is because they haven't a
-->>clue on how to use what they already have. My newest computer is
-->>circa 2001. Works just fine and I've no doubt it does everthing yours
-->>does and just as well. It's why Microsoft has a monolpoly and can
-->>continue it, people being too stupid or gutless to say, "No! I DON'T
-->>need another new computer, monitor, operating system, etc, just
-->>because you say I do." By your reasoning, we should only watch the tv
-->>programs we're allowed to and only listen to the music we're allowed
-->>to and only eat the food we're allowed to. And you were a TEACHER,
-->>ferchryneoutloud. What did you teach your students? Not to read!?
-->>
-->Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
-->dies and not a day earlier. No point putting a new part in an old
-->machine, you're making too much work for yourself updating this and
-->that to be compatible. I also think reformatting is the lazy way out
-->of problems. I back out of them the way I got in and have never had
-->to reformat. That makes me smarter than you. Are you happy now? I
-->am.


Hard drives are dirt cheap to replace, so why not just replace it?
If you've got more money than you know what to do with and feel that you must
replace a computer when the HD dies, then send me the computer and I'll swap it
the drive for a new one.

sf > wrote in news:46kbe59qfftfoai0gm7cuh9g0g16l0h6co@
4ax.com:

> Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
> dies and not a day earlier. No point putting a new part in an old
> machine, you're making too much work for yourself updating this and
> that to be compatible. I also think reformatting is the lazy way out
> of problems. I back out of them the way I got in and have never had
> to reformat. That makes me smarter than you. Are you happy now? I
> am.


My first laptop got replaced after the monitor hinges broke loose. I still
have the old gray mare!

Andy

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:12:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>Total nonsense! Changing an HDD is not much harder than changing a
>light bulb, once you know how. A computer is not a magic sacred box.
>It's just a tool, not a gift from the gods.

I'm not going to fix computers. I don't fix my own car either. A
seven year old computer is old enough. Get a new one.
>
>As for tossing your computer, it should be a crime:
>http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/
>
>This is the tip of the iceberg. Many countries around the world allow
>this. I hope you don't consider yourself a friend of ecology.
>
Hello? Haven't you heard of recycling?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Oct 27, 1:26*am, SCP > wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:44:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> -->On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:49:50 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> -->
> -->>On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:
> -->>
> -->>> I've never reformatted either. *I know that's the answer to every
> -->>> problem for some people, but I don't do it.
> -->>
> -->>You just buy a new computer ever couple years. *
> -->>
> -->>Your defense of people's ignorance of computers is appalling. *The
> -->>only reason people keep buying new computers is because they haven't a
> -->>clue on how to use what they already have. *My newest computer is
> -->>circa 2001. *Works just fine and I've no doubt it does everthing yours
> -->>does and just as well. *It's why Microsoft has a monolpoly and can
> -->>continue it, people being too stupid or gutless to say, "No! *I DON'T
> -->>need another new computer, monitor, operating system, etc, just
> -->>because you say I do." *By your reasoning, we should only watch the tv
> -->>programs we're allowed to and only listen to the music we're allowed
> -->>to and only eat the food we're allowed to. *And you were a TEACHER,
> -->>ferchryneoutloud. *What did you teach your students? *Not to read!?
> -->>
> -->Damn, you're belligerent. *I buy new computers when the hard drive
> -->dies and not a day earlier. *No point putting a new part in an old
> -->machine, you're making too much work for yourself updating this and
> -->that to be compatible. *I also think reformatting is the lazy way out
> -->of problems. *I back out of them the way I got in and have never had
> -->to reformat. *That makes me smarter than you. *Are you happy now? *I
> -->am.
>
> Hard drives are dirt cheap to replace, so why not just replace it?
> If you've got more money than you know what to do with and feel that you must
> replace a computer when the HD dies, then send me the computer and I'll swap it
> the drive for a new one.

I have to agree with NB and this poster .
To ditch an otherwise working computer just because a HDD goes
belly up
is plain nuts . IMO But long may people like you exist so that I
can keep getting
bargains at Auction .

Example lovely dual core Intel 8500 with decent ASUS board
Twin Nvidia vid cards and a PSU that could run a towns lights and
not feel any strain
4Gig of Corsair ram and other nice bits

Obviously a tantrum took place by the size of the dent in the case
$25.00 plus price of a new WD 500Gig fast drive
And away it went sweet as a nut .

When eventually got the old drive to work (heads were the problem) It
worked for a while after reassembled
interesting collection of data the person had on it .

I really must caution people when disposing of old gear be aware of
identity theft ,please.
Much of the stuff that many have no idea lives on the drives (even
after a wipe or even rewriting the blocks
with new data ) you can still get chunks off the drive that
eventually add up

BTW a Reformat does NOT protect your old data or completely wipe
it
unless you fill Up EVERY sector with new data even then your not
entirely secure.

Many of the scoundrels and crooks also attend the IT auctions for just
that purpose.

On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:

> Hello? Haven't you heard of recycling?

Hello? Where do you think those dumps get their computers from?

nb

On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:

> seven year old computer is old enough. Get a new one.

Yet one more priest telling me what to do with my computer. Sorry,
Your Highness, but Momma notbob never raised such a fool.

nb

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:12:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> Total nonsense! Changing an HDD is not much harder than changing a
>> light bulb, once you know how. A computer is not a magic sacred box.
>> It's just a tool, not a gift from the gods.
>
> I'm not going to fix computers. I don't fix my own car either. A
> seven year old computer is old enough. Get a new one.

Pity. You could save yourself a bundle. The computer business can be
very lucrative. To change a drive, either a floppy, hard disk or CD/DVD
drive you just remove the 4 or 5 screws holding the tower case in place
and slip it off. Remove the 1 or 2 screws on each side that hold the
drive in place, remove the power cable and ribbon cable, slip the drive
out of the bay, slip the new one in place and connect the ribbon and
power cables. They are designed to connect only one way, so you can't do
it backwards. Screw them into place, slip the cover back on screw it in
place. The physical work should take no more than a few minutes. If you
take it into a shop they will charge you at least $100 and keep it there
for a week.





>> As for tossing your computer, it should be a crime:
>> http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/
>>
>> This is the tip of the iceberg. Many countries around the world allow
>> this. I hope you don't consider yourself a friend of ecology.
>>
> Hello? Haven't you heard of recycling?

We have electronic recycling centres here. I recently dropped off an old
computer, monitor, printer and scanner. They will try to refurbish some
of them and the rest will be scrapped and recycled.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:52:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Pity. You could save yourself a bundle. The computer business can be
>very lucrative. To change a drive, either a floppy, hard disk or CD/DVD
>drive you just remove the 4 or 5 screws holding the tower case in place
>and slip it off. Remove the 1 or 2 screws on each side that hold the
>drive in place, remove the power cable and ribbon cable, slip the drive
>out of the bay, slip the new one in place and connect the ribbon and
>power cables. They are designed to connect only one way, so you can't do
>it backwards. Screw them into place, slip the cover back on screw it in
>place. The physical work should take no more than a few minutes. If you
>take it into a shop they will charge you at least $100 and keep it there
>for a week.
>
Well, I can't even take the cover off to vacuum the dust out of the
insides. I take the screws out, but there's something else I need to
push or jiggle to free it and I don't bother because I probably won't
be able to get it back together again. So there you are. There are
people like me who buy new computers when we need them and there are
people like you who know everything.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:49:50 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2009-10-26, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> I've never reformatted either. I know that's the answer to every
>>> problem for some people, but I don't do it.
snip
I also think reformatting is the lazy way out
> of problems. I back out of them the way I got in and have never had
> to reformat. That makes me smarter than you. Are you happy now? I
> am.
That's silly.
Whoever said anything about formatting out of problems? I said
housecleaning. It's like taking out the garbage and starting clean,
getting rid of what you don't want.
Janet

In article >,
SCP > wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:44:17 -0700, sf > wrote:

> -->Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
> -->dies and not a day earlier.

> Hard drives are dirt cheap to replace, so why not just replace it?

How do you know it's the hard drive? sf told you, a person who knows
nothing about the innards of a computer. Now, it's true, when a PC
dies, it's usually the hard drive. But for a computer that is seven
years old, who knows?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-737409.13302726102009@c-
61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:

> In article >,
> SCP > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:44:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> -->Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
>> -->dies and not a day earlier.
>
>> Hard drives are dirt cheap to replace, so why not just replace it?
>
> How do you know it's the hard drive? sf told you, a person who knows
> nothing about the innards of a computer. Now, it's true, when a PC
> dies, it's usually the hard drive. But for a computer that is seven
> years old, who knows?


My last 'puter reported PBR #2 Load error. CHKDSK tried with all it's
might to solve the problem before giving up entirely.

Who ya gonna call? GeekBusters? I don't think so. Even the Dell restore
CDs couldn't come to my rescue.

Andy

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:52:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Pity. You could save yourself a bundle. The computer business can be
>> very lucrative. To change a drive, either a floppy, hard disk or CD/DVD
>> drive you just remove the 4 or 5 screws holding the tower case in place
>> and slip it off. Remove the 1 or 2 screws on each side that hold the
>> drive in place, remove the power cable and ribbon cable, slip the drive
>> out of the bay, slip the new one in place and connect the ribbon and
>> power cables. They are designed to connect only one way, so you can't do
>> it backwards. Screw them into place, slip the cover back on screw it in
>> place. The physical work should take no more than a few minutes. If you
>> take it into a shop they will charge you at least $100 and keep it there
>> for a week.
>>
> Well, I can't even take the cover off to vacuum the dust out of the
> insides. I take the screws out, but there's something else I need to
> push or jiggle to free it and I don't bother because I probably won't
> be able to get it back together again. So there you are. There are
> people like me who buy new computers when we need them and there are
> people like you who know everything.
>


Don't be going all paranoid on us sf. It is not a matter of knowing
everything. It's not like making a drive or writing programs. Computer
manufacturers have made things very easy for ordinary users. It really
doesn't take an enormous amount of mechanical aptitude to change a
drive, just the ability to use a screw driver to turn a few screws, slip
out a component and replace it with a new one. Computers and the
operating systems these days usually automatically install the drivers
and do everything that needs to be done to configure the new hardware.
It really only requires a minimal amount of effort to save yourself the
high price of having it done by a professional, and that often being
only a person who does it for a living as opposed to someone who has had
a lot of training.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:49:37 -0500, Andy > wrote:

-->Dan Abel > wrote in news:dabel-737409.13302726102009@c-
-->61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:
-->
-->> In article >,
-->> SCP > wrote:
-->>
-->>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:44:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
-->>
-->>> -->Damn, you're belligerent. I buy new computers when the hard drive
-->>> -->dies and not a day earlier.
-->>
-->>> Hard drives are dirt cheap to replace, so why not just replace it?
-->>
-->> How do you know it's the hard drive? sf told you, a person who knows
-->> nothing about the innards of a computer. Now, it's true, when a PC
-->> dies, it's usually the hard drive. But for a computer that is seven
-->> years old, who knows?
-->
-->
-->My last 'puter reported PBR #2 Load error. CHKDSK tried with all it's
-->might to solve the problem before giving up entirely.
-->
-->Who ya gonna call? GeekBusters? I don't think so. Even the Dell restore
-->CDs couldn't come to my rescue.
-->
-->Andy


A Load error is usually loadperf.dll, and a structure file (logman.exe)
that are available on any windows machine ... a ten minute fix.
Of course the restore cd's couldn't fix it, that's what IT's are for

Pits09 wrote:

> I have to agree with NB and this poster .
> To ditch an otherwise working computer just because a HDD goes
> belly up
> is plain nuts . IMO But long may people like you exist so that I
> can keep getting
> bargains at Auction .

On the other hand.... it can be a good excuse to upgrade. It is also
pretty cheap to buy new computer systems these days. Last year I was
having some serious issues with my computer than I could not fix myself.
My monitor was getting dull and took up a lot of space on my desk. I
had the option of resorting to taking it into a shop, which would cost
$100 or more, plus the cost of a new monitor in the near future..... or
for a few hundred more get a nice new system with a larger screen flat
screen monitor, a newer operating system and a few other goodies.


However.... a hard disk is a pretty easy part to replace, and they are
cheap these days. I still remember how envious my computer geek friends
were back in the late 80s when I got a system with a 20 meg hard disk
that... $430 for the disk. It is hard to find a hard disk these days
that doesn't have at least 1000 times that capacity for half the price.



>
> Example lovely dual core Intel 8500 with decent ASUS board
> Twin Nvidia vid cards and a PSU that could run a towns lights and
> not feel any strain
> 4Gig of Corsair ram and other nice bits
>
> Obviously a tantrum took place by the size of the dent in the case
> $25.00 plus price of a new WD 500Gig fast drive
> And away it went sweet as a nut .
>
> When eventually got the old drive to work (heads were the problem) It
> worked for a while after reassembled
> interesting collection of data the person had on it .
>
> I really must caution people when disposing of old gear be aware of
> identity theft ,please.
> Much of the stuff that many have no idea lives on the drives (even
> after a wipe or even rewriting the blocks
> with new data ) you can still get chunks off the drive that
> eventually add up
>
> BTW a Reformat does NOT protect your old data or completely wipe
> it
> unless you fill Up EVERY sector with new data even then your not
> entirely secure.
>
> Many of the scoundrels and crooks also attend the IT auctions for just
> that purpose.
>
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>
>
>
>

On 2009-10-27, Dave Smith > wrote:

> that... $430 for the disk. It is hard to find a hard disk these days
> that doesn't have at least 1000 times that capacity for half the price.

Have you looked at scsi drives, lately? Used to be scsi drives were
about the same prices as the old parallel ata drives. Then, sata
(serial) drives came along and took off in both capacity and speed
leaving scsi to hold down the reliability fort (servers). Last time I
looked, large/fast scsi drives were absurdly expensive.

nb

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT), Pits09 wrote:
>
> Yet for an old mainframe bloke this is a disgrace .
> Program the TV ! Nah get a kid to do it type person

i'm a mainframe dinosaur, too. but at least then when your program bombed,
the system went on its merry way without you. (for the most part, anyway,
unless you were *really* talented.)

your pal,
blake