On Oct 25, 4:13*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>
> > Hello All!
>
> > Recently, discussing portion reduction, someone said that was why god
> > created screwtop plastic containers for the leftovers. I've been using
> > Ziplock screwtop containers for a while but it has become apparent that
> > there is a disadvantage. The plastic becomes brittle at freezer
> > temperatures and often will break if dropped 4 or so feet onto a vinyl
> > floor. Does anyone have a recommendation for containers that will
> > survive this drop test?
>
> Sorry, but I can't help. *I can only say that we use the same containers *in
> the freezer and have not experienced any cracking or breakage. *We use one
> for storing ground coffee in the freezer that is opened and closed everyday,
> but we tend not to drop the lid on the floor. *

In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html

Ross.

wrote on Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:20:35 -0400:

> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>
> >> Hello All!
>>
> >> Recently, discussing portion reduction, someone said that
> >> was why god created screwtop plastic containers for the
> >> leftovers. I've been using Ziplock screwtop containers for
> >> a while but it has become apparent that there is a
> >> disadvantage. The plastic becomes brittle at
> >> freezer temperatures and often will break if dropped 4 or
> >> so feet onto a vinyl floor. Does anyone have a
> >> recommendation for containers that will survive this drop
> >> test?
>>
>> Sorry, but I can't help. I can only say that we use the same
>> containers in the freezer and have not experienced any
>> cracking or breakage. We use one for storing ground coffee
>> in the freezer that is opened and closed everyday, but we
>> tend not to drop the lid on the floor.

> In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
> http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html

I didn't mean to react to "storing coffee" but I don't store ground
coffee, I freeze the beans in their original container. The coffee
grinder does a fine job on frozen beans and I don't usually have to keep
the beans for more than a week or so.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:20:35 -0400, wrote:
>
>In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
>http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html
>
That works for people who drink coffee daily. I don't drink coffee on
a daily basis anymore, so storing it in the freezer makes sense for
me. It stays fresher longer. I cover everything in my refrigerator
and freezer, so odor absorption isn't an issue.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:20:35 -0400, wrote:

> On Oct 25, 4:13*pm, Wayne Boatwright >
> wrote:
>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>
>>> Hello All!
>>
>>> Recently, discussing portion reduction, someone said that was why god
>>> created screwtop plastic containers for the leftovers. I've been using
>>> Ziplock screwtop containers for a while but it has become apparent that
>>> there is a disadvantage. The plastic becomes brittle at freezer
>>> temperatures and often will break if dropped 4 or so feet onto a vinyl
>>> floor. Does anyone have a recommendation for containers that will
>>> survive this drop test?
>>
>> Sorry, but I can't help. *I can only say that we use the same containers *in
>> the freezer and have not experienced any cracking or breakage. *We use one
>> for storing ground coffee in the freezer that is opened and closed everyday,
>> but we tend not to drop the lid on the floor. *
>
> In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
> http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html
>
> Ross.

good advice, i'm sure, but what if you're a slob who buys ground coffee in
a can from the grocery store?

i just started making coffee at home again, and the two cans i've bought
both say to refrigerate after opening.

your pal,
blake

blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:

>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>
>>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>>> Recently, discussing portion reduction, someone said that
>>>> was why god created screwtop plastic containers for the
>>>> leftovers. I've been using Ziplock screwtop containers for
>>>> a while but it has become apparent that there is a
>>>> disadvantage. The plastic becomes brittle at
>>>> freezer temperatures and often will break if dropped 4 or
>>>> so feet onto a vinyl floor. Does anyone have a
>>>> recommendation for containers that will survive this drop
>>>> test?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I can't help. I can only say that we use the
>>> same containers in the freezer and have not experienced any
>>> cracking or breakage. We use one for storing ground coffee
>>> in the freezer that is opened and closed everyday, but we
>>> tend not to drop the lid on the floor.
>>
>> In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
>> http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html
>>
>> Ross.

> good advice, i'm sure, but what if you're a slob who buys
> ground coffee in a can from the grocery store?

> i just started making coffee at home again, and the two cans
> i've bought both say to refrigerate after opening.

I'd say *freeze* not refrigerate. I even freeze my emergency jar of
instant coffee.


--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0400, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:
>
>>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All!
>>
>> good advice, i'm sure, but what if you're a slob who buys
>> ground coffee in a can from the grocery store?
>
>> i just started making coffee at home again, and the two cans
>> i've bought both say to refrigerate after opening.
>
>I'd say *freeze* not refrigerate. I even freeze my emergency jar of
>instant coffee.
There was a famous coffee writer who said about 20 years ago, to
refrigerate your coffee not freeze it, so it became the mantra. But
in the last 10 years or so, many experiments have been done by real
coffee aficionados in my coffee world and it is generally accepted
that to freeze coffee is the very best. Kind of keeps it in abeyance.

aloha,
Cea

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0400, James Silverton wrote:

> blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:
>
>>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All!
>>>>
>>>>> Recently, discussing portion reduction, someone said that
>>>>> was why god created screwtop plastic containers for the
>>>>> leftovers. I've been using Ziplock screwtop containers for
>>>>> a while but it has become apparent that there is a
>>>>> disadvantage. The plastic becomes brittle at
>>>>> freezer temperatures and often will break if dropped 4 or
>>>>> so feet onto a vinyl floor. Does anyone have a
>>>>> recommendation for containers that will survive this drop
>>>>> test?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I can't help. I can only say that we use the
>>>> same containers in the freezer and have not experienced any
>>>> cracking or breakage. We use one for storing ground coffee
>>>> in the freezer that is opened and closed everyday, but we
>>>> tend not to drop the lid on the floor.
>>>
>>> In the interest of preserving the quality of ground coffee.
>>> http://www.coffeeam.com/stgrandbrco.html
>>>
>>> Ross.
>
>> good advice, i'm sure, but what if you're a slob who buys
>> ground coffee in a can from the grocery store?
>
>> i just started making coffee at home again, and the two cans
>> i've bought both say to refrigerate after opening.
>
> I'd say *freeze* not refrigerate. I even freeze my emergency jar of
> instant coffee.

well, the anti-freezing guy says you introduce moisture if you're opening
and re-freezing the container, which sounds plausible. i don't think i
have the patience to parcel out four-tablespoon portions and freeze them.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:41:46 -1000, pure kona wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0400, "James Silverton"
> > wrote:
>
>> blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:
>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> good advice, i'm sure, but what if you're a slob who buys
>>> ground coffee in a can from the grocery store?
>>
>>> i just started making coffee at home again, and the two cans
>>> i've bought both say to refrigerate after opening.
>>
>>I'd say *freeze* not refrigerate. I even freeze my emergency jar of
>>instant coffee.
> There was a famous coffee writer who said about 20 years ago, to
> refrigerate your coffee not freeze it, so it became the mantra. But
> in the last 10 years or so, many experiments have been done by real
> coffee aficionados in my coffee world and it is generally accepted
> that to freeze coffee is the very best. Kind of keeps it in abeyance.
>
> aloha,
> Cea

people seem to be all over the place on this, with a fervor equal to the
beans/tomatoes in chili discussions.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:58:16 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:41:46 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0400, "James Silverton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>>>>

>
>people seem to be all over the place on this, with a fervor equal to the
>beans/tomatoes in chili discussions.
>
>your pal,
>blake
Not in the coffee world of alt.coffee etc. And to be honest respected
members have done experiments and I trust the consensus and have done
almost scientific experiments ourselves. Sorry can't be swayed
here. Like noses, every body has an opinion, but do what you think
is best.

Of course an airtight bag is essential in the freezer.

aloha,
Cea

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:18:14 -1000, pure kona wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:58:16 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:41:46 -1000, pure kona wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:08:31 -0400, "James Silverton"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> blake wrote on Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:10:36 -0400:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 4:13 pm, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun 25 Oct 2009 03:53:47p, James Silverton told us...
>>>>>>>
>
>>
>>people seem to be all over the place on this, with a fervor equal to the
>>beans/tomatoes in chili discussions.
>>
>>your pal,
>>blake
> Not in the coffee world of alt.coffee etc. And to be honest respected
> members have done experiments and I trust the consensus and have done
> almost scientific experiments ourselves. Sorry can't be swayed
> here. Like noses, every body has an opinion, but do what you think
> is best.
>
> Of course an airtight bag is essential in the freezer.
>
> aloha,
> Cea

but if you're taking the airtight container out, removing a day's worth of
coffee, and then replacing it aren't you then introducing air and moisture?

or are these frozen packets only a day or two's worth of coffee?

your pal,
blake