On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:06:59 -0800, sf > fired up
random neurons and synapses to opine:

>My son has a friend who is a corporate attorney. He has a license in
>3 or 4 states and he's only in his early 30's. They plan to move out
>of the country in the next few years. Son says he and his wife are
>rootless. I couldn't do that. I plant my roots and stay in one
>place.

As an old Air Force brat and former corporate wife, I've moved 17
times and that doesn't include (when I was an AF brat) moving from
temporary housing to "permanent" base housing, which would bump the
ante to 21. AAMOF, when we were transferred to England when I was a
teenager, we lived in temporary housing for 6 months before base
quarters were available, then they closed our base and we were
transferred to another base in England, which tallies 3 moves in 3
years. And the DH, another AF brat, lived in a trailer until he was 10
or 11 so his folks could drag their "house" with them from one duty
station to the next. The symbol for a military brat is a dandelion in
full bloom with the slogan "Bloom Where You're Planted."

Heck, I've moved twice just in the last 8 years and are looking at #28
when we close on the house they're going to *bury* me out of!!!

OB: Some of the kitchens my mother had to cook out of might go a long
way to explaining why she was an indifferent/uninspired cook whose
cookbook collection was whatever cans of soup or boxes of whatever
were in the pantry.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

On Nov 2, 11:14*am, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:19:09 -0600, .Stu. wrote:
>
> > Winters going to show it's ugly head one of these mornings, it's been around
> > 39F for the last week or so. One of these mornings we'll find a few inches of
> > snow on the ground, and then it starts.
>
> they're going to insist on having winter *again* this year?
>
> your pal,
> blake

Hey! Some of us like it. You gotta problem wit dat, buddy?

maxine in cool to chilly ri

On Nov 3, 11:10*am, "gloria.p" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> > My son has a friend who is a corporate attorney. *He has a license in
> > 3 or 4 states and he's only in his early 30's. *They plan to move out
> > of the country in the next few years. *Son says he and his wife are
> > rootless. *I couldn't do that. *I plant my roots and stay in one
> > place.
>
> It's nice if you can do it. *This is the third place we've lived
> since we were married 43 years ago. *Engineers go where the jobs are.
>
> It's not easy (for me at least) to pick up and leave an
> established community with comfortable friendships to start all
> over again. *I had to give up a seat on the school board that I
> loved. I had to settle our kids and live through their pain.
> Husband got a good job, a raise, and lots of adulation from his
> new company. *It wasn't a bit hard for him, he got all the perks.
>
> When we moved the economy was booming and society was in major
> flux. *Many of the couples we made friends with soon moved or
> divorced. *It made me very leery of reaching out to people.
>
> I don't know how career military folk do it. *It's SO hard.
> Maybe they're like the Mormons who just move from one welcoming
> community to the next one.
>
> gloria p

If you move back East, I'd welcome you!

maxine in ri

On Nov 3, 2:44*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:30:56 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
> > George Shirley wrote:
>
> >> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East Cindy.
> >> Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small percentage from
> >> South and Central America. We could be free of oil from outside the US
> >> if Congress would allow offshore drilling and drilling in ANWAR.
>
> > That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign oil
> > while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you have sucked
> > the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In the long run you
> > will be much better off than if you sucked yourselves dry and then had
> > to really on really expensive foreign oil.
>
> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't depend on
> oil. *no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run out.
>
> your pal,
> blake

But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and horizon,
and be building in what might have been a native burial ground that's
now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop the fish from
swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor hard-working oil
and coal companies? You want to put them out of work?

You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
;-0
maxine in ri

On Nov 3, 7:47*pm, maxine in ri > wrote:
> On Nov 2, 11:14*am, blake murphy > wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:19:09 -0600, .Stu. wrote:
>
> > > Winters going to show it's ugly head one of these mornings, it's been around
> > > 39F for the last week or so. One of these mornings we'll find a few inches of
> > > snow on the ground, and then it starts.
>
> > they're going to insist on having winter *again* this year?
>
> > your pal,
> > blake
>
> Hey! *Some of us like it. *You gotta problem wit dat, buddy?
>
> maxine in cool to chilly ri

the temp, here in azusa, in the foothills of the san gabriel
mountains, has been in the 90+/-F range for almost two weeks.
i wish it were cool.

harriet & critters

maxine in ri wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2:44 pm, blake murphy > wrote:

>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't depend on
>> oil. no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run out.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and horizon,
> and be building in what might have been a native burial ground that's
> now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop the fish from
> swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor hard-working oil
> and coal companies? You want to put them out of work?
>
> You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
> ;-0
> maxine in ri


You must have read the same newspaper article I read last week.

The Cape Cod Wampanoag tribe is trying to block an offshore wind
turbine project because it will affect their view of the sunrise
for their daily ritual of welcoming the sun. There is not
supposed to be anything on the horizon between them and the sun.
The turbines/windmills would violate this.

If it were a gambling casino on the beach the tribe wanted to
build, what do you want to bet they'd find a loophole in the ritual?

gloria p, the cynical

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:57:51 -0800 (PST), maxine in ri wrote:

> On Nov 3, 2:44*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:30:56 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>
>>>> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East Cindy.
>>>> Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small percentage from
>>>> South and Central America. We could be free of oil from outside the US
>>>> if Congress would allow offshore drilling and drilling in ANWAR.
>>
>>> That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign oil
>>> while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you have sucked
>>> the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In the long run you
>>> will be much better off than if you sucked yourselves dry and then had
>>> to really on really expensive foreign oil.
>>
>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't depend on
>> oil. *no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run out.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and horizon,
> and be building in what might have been a native burial ground that's
> now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop the fish from
> swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor hard-working oil
> and coal companies? You want to put them out of work?
>
> You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
> ;-0
> maxine in ri

haven't you heard? all us liberals are stalinists at heart.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:16:37 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>> That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign oil
>>> while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you have sucked
>>> the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In the long run you
>>> will be much better off than if you sucked yourselves dry and then had
>>> to really on really expensive foreign oil.
>>
>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't depend on
>> oil. no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run out.
>
> That's true. We do need to work on alternate sources. Atomic energy is
> not the best solution because there is not an endless supply of fuel for
> that either, and it leaves nuclear waste that is incredibly toxic for
> thousands of years. Wind power generators are expensive and don't work
> great when there is no wind, and solar panels aren't cheap and work only
> when it is sunny. The tides run regularly, so maybe we should try
> harnessing them. It would be clean energy.
>

frankly, i'm hoping someone will come up with something. as things stand
now deep shit starts to occur in a hundred years or so.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:47:19 -0800 (PST), maxine in ri wrote:

> On Nov 2, 11:14*am, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:19:09 -0600, .Stu. wrote:
>>
>>> Winters going to show it's ugly head one of these mornings, it's been around
>>> 39F for the last week or so. One of these mornings we'll find a few inches of
>>> snow on the ground, and then it starts.
>>
>> they're going to insist on having winter *again* this year?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> Hey! Some of us like it. You gotta problem wit dat, buddy?
>
> maxine in cool to chilly ri

actually, d.c. has a pretty moderate climate, rarely that freezing cold or
beastly hot. but of the two extremes, i prefer hot (which around here
means 95 degrees or so).

your pal,
blake

George Shirley wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Nov 2, 11:55 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>>
>>> Aren't you glad that you don't hear much of that leftist hysterical
>>> babble about "global warming" anymore, blake...???
>>
>> Like many people, you believe your locality is the entire world.
>>
>> Average global temperatures have been rising steadily since the
>> Little Ice
>> Age of the 17th Century, and they've been rising quite rapidly since
>> 1900.
>> Recent averages appear to show a slowing in the rate of increase, but
>> the
>> last few years of data don't show a strong trend.
>>
>> I'm not a climatologist; I can't say what is causing it. It seems to
>> me that
>> it would do no harm to reduce our burning of fossil fuels, if only to
>> stop
>> sending so much money to the Middle East.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East Cindy.
> Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small percentage
> from South and Central America. We could be free of oil from outside
> the US if Congress would allow offshore drilling and drilling in
> ANWAR.


Yup...and we have *huge* coal reserves besides in this country. IIRC the
state of Illannoy alone has enough coal to satisfy all projected US energy
needs for the next 500 years or so, Illinois has like the 4th largest coal
reserves in the US...

Extricating the energy from coal will become increasingly safer and cleaner
as the technology improves...


--
Best
Greg

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Nov 2, 11:55 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>> Aren't you glad that you don't hear much of that leftist hysterical
>> babble about "global warming" anymore, blake...???
>
> Like many people, you believe your locality is the entire world.
>
> Average global temperatures have been rising steadily since the Little
> Ice
> Age of the 17th Century, and they've been rising quite rapidly since
> 1900.
> Recent averages appear to show a slowing in the rate of increase, but
> the
> last few years of data don't show a strong trend.
>
> I'm not a climatologist; I can't say what is causing it. It seems to
> me that
> it would do no harm to reduce our burning of fossil fuels, if only to
> stop
> sending so much money to the Middle East.


Old Mudder Earth LAFFS at the puny attempts of man to "reduce" global
warming, Cindy...

I do agree with you that we should become more energy-efficient and thus
less dependent on energy sources from an unstable place like the Middle
East...


--
Best
Greg

blake murphy wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:57:51 -0800 (PST), maxine in ri wrote:
>
>> On Nov 3, 2:44 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:30:56 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East
>>>>> Cindy. Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small
>>>>> percentage from South and Central America. We could be free of
>>>>> oil from outside the US if Congress would allow offshore drilling
>>>>> and drilling in ANWAR.
>>>
>>>> That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign
>>>> oil while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you
>>>> have sucked the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In
>>>> the long run you will be much better off than if you sucked
>>>> yourselves dry and then had to really on really expensive foreign
>>>> oil.
>>>
>>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't
>>> depend on oil. no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run
>>> out.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and horizon,
>> and be building in what might have been a native burial ground that's
>> now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop the fish from
>> swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor hard-working oil
>> and coal companies? You want to put them out of work?
>>
>> You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
>> ;-0
>> maxine in ri
>
> haven't you heard? all us liberals are stalinists at heart.


Good thang that you pussy "Stalinists" can be voted "out" in this country,
blake...


--
Best
Greg

blake murphy wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:27:14 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Nov 2, 11:55 pm, "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>>
>>> Aren't you glad that you don't hear much of that leftist hysterical
>>> babble about "global warming" anymore, blake...???
>>
>> Like many people, you believe your locality is the entire world.
>>
>> Average global temperatures have been rising steadily since the
>> Little Ice
>> Age of the 17th Century, and they've been rising quite rapidly since
>> 1900.
>> Recent averages appear to show a slowing in the rate of increase, but
>> the
>> last few years of data don't show a strong trend.
>>
>> I'm not a climatologist; I can't say what is causing it. It seems to
>> me that
>> it would do no harm to reduce our burning of fossil fuels, if only to
>> stop
>> sending so much money to the Middle East.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> but, but...al gore is fat!!!


Yup...and he's DUMB, too...and he personally wastes LOTS of energy, blake...


--
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Greg

blake murphy wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:55:50 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:19:09 -0600, .Stu. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Winters going to show it's ugly head one of these mornings, it's
>>>> been around 39F for the last week or so. One of these mornings
>>>> we'll find a few inches of snow on the ground, and then it starts.
>>>
>>> they're going to insist on having winter *again* this year?
>>>
>>
>> Aren't you glad that you don't hear much of that leftist hysterical
>> babble about "global warming" anymore, blake...???
>
> yeah, no need to worry until the north polar ice cap can fit into a
> cocktail glass.


Maybe you can even adopt one of those "homeless" polar bears, too,
blake...heehee...


--
Best
Greg

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:57:22 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:57:51 -0800 (PST), maxine in ri wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2:44 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:30:56 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East
>>>>>> Cindy. Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small
>>>>>> percentage from South and Central America. We could be free of
>>>>>> oil from outside the US if Congress would allow offshore drilling
>>>>>> and drilling in ANWAR.
>>>>
>>>>> That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign
>>>>> oil while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you
>>>>> have sucked the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In
>>>>> the long run you will be much better off than if you sucked
>>>>> yourselves dry and then had to really on really expensive foreign
>>>>> oil.
>>>>
>>>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't
>>>> depend on oil. no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and horizon,
>>> and be building in what might have been a native burial ground that's
>>> now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop the fish from
>>> swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor hard-working oil
>>> and coal companies? You want to put them out of work?
>>>
>>> You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
>>> ;-0
>>> maxine in ri
>>
>> haven't you heard? all us liberals are stalinists at heart.
>
> Good thang that you pussy "Stalinists" can be voted "out" in this country,
> blake...

yeah, that was real successful in 2006 and 2008.

blake

Stu wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:46:28 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> -->On Nov 4, 1:46 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> -->actually, d.c. has a pretty moderate climate, rarely that freezing
> -->cold or
> -->> beastly hot. but of the two extremes, i prefer hot (which around here
> -->> means 95 degrees or so).
> -->
> -->95 is beastly hot. Here's my scale:
> -->
> -->60 = comfortable
> -->70 = warm
> -->80 = hot
> -->85 = damned hot
> -->90 = hot as the hinges of hell
>
>
> -->95 = hot as Satan's jockstrap
> Just curious how/what you know about this?

It's like people saying that something tastes like shit. In most cases
they are speculating.

On Nov 5, 2:24*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:

> It's like people saying that something tastes like shit. In most cases
> they are speculating.

In this case, you can extrapolate the taste from the smell.

Cindy Hamilton

On Nov 5, 10:19*am, Stu > wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:46:28 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
> > wrote:
>
> -->On Nov 4, 1:46*pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> -->actually, d.c. has a pretty moderate climate, rarely that freezing
> -->cold or
> -->> beastly hot. *but of the two extremes, i prefer hot (which around here
> -->> means 95 degrees or so).
> -->
> -->95 is beastly hot. *Here's my scale:
> -->
> -->60 = comfortable
> -->70 = warm
> -->80 = hot
> -->85 = damned hot
> -->90 = hot as the hinges of hell
>
> -->95 = hot as Satan's jockstrap
> Just curious how/what you know about this?

It's not the heat; it's the humidity

Cindy Hamilton

blake murphy wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:57:22 -0600, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:57:51 -0800 (PST), maxine in ri wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 3, 2:44 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:30:56 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only about 23% of oil used in the US comes from the Middle East
>>>>>>> Cindy. Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico and a small
>>>>>>> percentage from South and Central America. We could be free of
>>>>>>> oil from outside the US if Congress would allow offshore
>>>>>>> drilling and drilling in ANWAR.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is probably a good strategy on the long run. Use up foreign
>>>>>> oil while it is still plentiful and relatively cheap. Once you
>>>>>> have sucked the foreign reserves dry you can use your own oil. In
>>>>>> the long run you will be much better off than if you sucked
>>>>>> yourselves dry and then had to really on really expensive foreign
>>>>>> oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> a better strategy might be to develop energy sources that don't
>>>>> depend on oil. no matter where it is, as you say, it's gonna run
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> But then you'll spoil the rich folks' view of the ocean and
>>>> horizon, and be building in what might have been a native burial
>>>> ground that's now under water or harm the migratory birds, or stop
>>>> the fish from swimming upriver to spawn...and what about the poor
>>>> hard-working oil and coal companies? You want to put them out of
>>>> work?
>>>>
>>>> You're cruel, Blake. Purely cruel.
>>>> ;-0
>>>> maxine in ri
>>>
>>> haven't you heard? all us liberals are stalinists at heart.
>>
>> Good thang that you pussy "Stalinists" can be voted "out" in this
>> country, blake...
>
> yeah, that was real successful in 2006 and 2008.


Good thing there's elections every so often, lol...


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Greg

Today, the temperature plunged to 83 degrees!

DaveinFLL


On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:03:16 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>The temperature in SoCal has been up and down like a yo-yo. It can go
>from the 60s on Tuesday to the 90s on Saturday and back again. It's
>been cool enough lately, however, that a good pot of beef ragout
>seemed like a fine idea - the DH sez he always looks at it as the
>first sign of winter. The first sign of fall, however, is three alarm
>chili in front of a college football game on TV.
>
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd