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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London >
wrote: >Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? Lou |
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Arri London wrote:
> > Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm But it's not a meatball. It's a spherical shape made of meat, but it's not a meatball. A meatball is made from raw meat and other ingrediants, then cooked. This sphere was either made from cooked meat (which seems likely from the cracks, indicating it can't support its own weight) or if made from raw meat it's still raw on the inside, hence dangerous to eat. This is in contrast to the world's largest hot dog, which really is a hot dog. |
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![]() Lou Decruss wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > > wrote: > > >Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > > I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell > they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside > turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? > > Lou NI, really. The article doesn't give details. Perhaps slow cooked in some way...baked? It's relatively flat, presumably collapsing under its own weight ![]() than 'safe'. There is a difference. |
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In article >, Arri London >
wrote: > Lou Decruss wrote: > > > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > > > wrote: > > > > >Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > > > > I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell > > they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside > > turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? > > > > Lou > > NI, really. The article doesn't give details. Perhaps slow cooked in > some way...baked? It's relatively flat, presumably collapsing under its > own weight ![]() > than 'safe'. There is a difference. Nuke it. <g> -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." --Steve Rothstein Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet> Subscribe: |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:06:54 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > >Aren't they called faggots ion the UK? > >I wonder how you cook that so as to be edible. It would take a long >time to reach 160F int he middle and not be dry as hell on the >outside. > >Microwave? Presto hot-dogger method for the inside. 480 volts. Propane torch for the outside. Like the type used to remove road stripes or melt snow from sidewalks. Lou |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:10:30 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:30:05 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> Lou Decruss wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >>>> >>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm >>> >>> I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell >>> they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside >>> turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? > >People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large >meatball? Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. Ya, You're right. What's wrong with me thinking or talking about cooking here. I'll be good now and spend more time talking about politics and cats. Lou |
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:51:48 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:10:30 -0600, Sqwertz > > wrote: > >>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:30:05 -0700, Arri London wrote: >> >>> Lou Decruss wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >>>>> >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm >>>> >>>> I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell >>>> they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside >>>> turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? >> >>People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large >>meatball? Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. > > Ya, You're right. What's wrong with me thinking or talking about > cooking here. I'll be good now and spend more time talking about > politics and cats. > > Lou what about the starving cats?!?!? huh???? your pal, blake |
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Sqwertz wrote:
>Arri London wrote: > >> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > >Aren't they called faggots ion the UK? > >I wonder how you cook that so as to be edible. It would take a long >time to reach 160F int he middle and not be dry as hell on the >outside. > >Microwave? > >-sw Well, ya gotta know how to cook creatively, sqwartzie... or are you going to be just a lowly cook's apprentice all your life. I don't think that thingie qualifies for any meatball record, it's not globular, it's an oblate lump and full of cracks... doesn't look very appetizing... almost looks like a fresh cow patty... calling that a meatball would make a guinea nana cry. Probably mystery meat to boot. Standard method for cooking meatballs is brown n' braise, braising retains moistness, even Andy knows that cooking basic, Sqwartzie. Now all yoose need is a tool... Need a huge perforated globular mold that comes apart like those metal tea balls... pretty simple to construct to any size... start with a hoop of the proper circumference and build a metal framework for each half (like aircraft framework). Then cut out sections of either perforated stainless sheet metal or of stainlees hardware cloth (both readily available in large sheets), could be aluminum too, easier to work, especially for a one time use. Then attach a section to each opening of the framework like aircraft skin (finally a use for that pop rivet tool you got for your birthday ten years ago you thought was a tongue/labia piercer). Really not so difficult a project, first build a wooden half globe shaped form, like is used for aircraft nose cones, or check companies that sell liquid carrying tanks, I'm sure one can find a large poly tank like used in agri liquid transfer... but anyone with an IQ should be able to construct a meatball mold with everyday common tools and materials one finds around their house. Could probably borrow the use of a propane storeage tank to create a form... really only need an arc cut into a sheet of plywood to use as a template... but following a 3D form would make the job easier and make for achieving a more accurate configuration. The ends of the 500 gallon propane tank in my yard are the perfect size and configuration for a giant meat ball mold. A meatball doesn't need to be perfect anyway, it's not like NASA is into USDA nose cones. I'd have no problem constructing a giant perforated meatball mold: http://i34.tinypic.com/2hfhwco.jpg http://www.missiongas.com/500gallontank.htm If I wanted to cheat I could make my mold in sections like they do so many novelty cake pans... would be much easier to cook the meat globe in eighths and then stick them together later... won't need such large cooking vessels... but that would definitely be cheating for a record. Now we're ready to cook... pack the mold with meat mixture, clamp shut, and with a crane (one of those gooseneck motor hoists would work) lower into a giant vat of hot fat and deep fry long enough to form a brown crust. Hoist out and let drain a bit, then lower into another huge vat filled with slowly simmering tomato sauce... would take a while but would cook through evenly without drying (need a long probe thermometer to check doneness). Once cooked it would be round and firm like a meat ball should. Let rest a bit to firm up and then carefully unmold onto a giant platter of 'sghettis (cooked pasta makes a perfect protectant for fragile items). Drown with gallons of tomato sauce, bury with a full wheel of fresh grated parmigiano, and mangia! Now all I gotta hope is that I can convince my propane supplier to fill my 500 gallon tank with dago red! LOL Yo, Sqwartzie, how come you didn't think to stuff an ostrich skin with meatball mix? heheh |
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:19:46 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:51:48 -0600, Lou Decruss wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:10:30 -0600, Sqwertz > >> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:30:05 -0700, Arri London wrote: >>> >>>> Lou Decruss wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm >>>>> >>>>> I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell >>>>> they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside >>>>> turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? >>> >>>People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large >>>meatball? Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. >> >> Ya, You're right. What's wrong with me thinking or talking about >> cooking here. I'll be good now and spend more time talking about >> politics and cats. > >You know I was being sarcastic, I hope. Because I had asked the >same question right before I read your post. Yes I knew it even before I saw the time stamps. I was being sarcastic too but it wasn't directed at you. Lou |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:30:05 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Lou Decruss wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > > >> wrote: > >> > >>>Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > >>> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > >> > >> I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell > >> they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside > >> turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? > > People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large > meatball? Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. Oh really! And you spend all your time helping the starving. It was meant as a bit of comic relief. > > > NI, really. The article doesn't give details. Perhaps slow cooked in > > some way...baked? It's relatively flat, presumably collapsing under its > > own weight ![]() > > than 'safe'. There is a difference. > > Since they donated it to a community kitchen, you can bet a lot of > poor people would suddenly get rich if they got sick from eating it. Yes of course...easy enough to nuke individual portions if needed. > > BTW: I thought this was a UK meatball because of the link cited. > > -sw The BBC covers 'news' from around the world; not just the UK. |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > > Aren't they called faggots ion the UK? No...a faggot is a liver-based meatball, wrapped in caul fat. > > I wonder how you cook that so as to be edible. It would take a long > time to reach 160F int he middle and not be dry as hell on the > outside. > > Microwave? > > -sw Dunno...maybe baked. Dry on the outside isn't really a problem...whip up a few gallons of brown gravy and all is made good ![]() |
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On Nov 2, 6:42*pm, Arri London > wrote:
> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm How in the hell could that be edible? What a waste of food. |
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On Nov 2, 10:10*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> > People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large > meatball? *Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. My thoughts exactly. And I'm so glad that animals gave their lives for that abomination. But then again, look at Taco Bell <g> |
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brooklyn1 > wrote:
> Let rest a bit to firm up and >then carefully unmold onto a giant platter of 'sghettis (cooked pasta >makes a perfect protectant for fragile items). And then watch it slump into an oblate lump full of cracks and looking enough like a fresh cow patty to make "a guinea nana cry". Much over four or five pounds and no ground meat is going to have the structural strength to do anything else. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/ -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:09:37 -0800 (PST), poop on toast wrote:
> On Nov 2, 10:10*pm, Sqwertz > wrote: >> >> People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large >> meatball? *Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. > > My thoughts exactly. And I'm so glad that animals gave their lives > for that abomination. But then again, look at Taco Bell <g> taco bell uses animals? blake |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:46 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Sqwertz wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:30:05 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> > >>> Lou Decruss wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > >>>>> > >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > >>>> > >>>> I saw that on the news this morning and was wondering how the hell > >>>> they cooked it so the center was safe to eat without the outside > >>>> turning into charcoal. Think they ground their own meat? > >> > >> People are starving and all you can think of is how to cook a large > >> meatball? Really dude, you need to re-think your priorities. > > > > Oh really! And you spend all your time helping the starving. It was > > meant as a bit of comic relief. > > Hopefully you saw the part about me being sarcastic. > > -sw Weirdly enough, it showed up later when I reloaded the group. But not at the time I replied. My ISP/newsgroup provider often splits threads in a strange way. So sorry ![]() |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:16:19 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Sqwertz wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> > >>> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > >>> > >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > >> > >> Aren't they called faggots ion the UK? > > > > No...a faggot is a liver-based meatball, wrapped in caul fat. > > Ouch. That hurts just thinking about it. Here in Texas we call > those Machitos - made with chunks of lamb and goat offal. > > -sw Probably the same intent...using up the organ meats. Pork faggots were/are a West Country specialty which I quite grew to like when I lived there. Although in our family we made liver dumplings, but usually tiny ones for soup. Faggots are served as a main course, with gravy. Obtainable frozen even ![]() |
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![]() poop on toast wrote: > > On Nov 2, 6:42 pm, Arri London > wrote: > > Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm > > How in the hell could that be edible? What a waste of food. Not really. Most people overcook their meatloaf and meatballs anyway. Break it up and serve with some gravy to soften it. ![]() |
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Arri London wrote:
>poop on toast wrote: >>Arri London wrote: >> > >> > Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >> > >> How in the hell could that be edible? What a waste of food. > >Not really. Most people overcook their meatloaf and meatballs anyway. >Break it up and serve with some gravy to soften it. ![]() WTF are you replying to some sicko who calls themself "poop on toast" as if they were a cogent human being, are you severely brain damaged, I strongly suspect so. |
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Somewhere on teh intarwebs Arri London wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote: >> >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:16:19 -0700, Arri London wrote: >> >>> Sqwertz wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:42:07 -0700, Arri London wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their >>>>> hands ![]() >>>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm >>>> >>>> Aren't they called faggots ion the UK? >>> >>> No...a faggot is a liver-based meatball, wrapped in caul fat. >> >> Ouch. That hurts just thinking about it. Here in Texas we call >> those Machitos - made with chunks of lamb and goat offal. >> >> -sw > > Probably the same intent...using up the organ meats. Pork faggots > were/are a West Country specialty which I quite grew to like when I > lived there. Although in our family we made liver dumplings, but > usually tiny ones for soup. Faggots are served as a main course, with > gravy. Obtainable frozen even ![]() Man I love faggots! When I lived on a farm with my family, when we killed a pig I always made them. Unfortunately they're not available here in New Zealand and I don't own a mincer anymore. LOL, getting hold of the pig's liver, kidneys, heart, caul, diaphram and offcuts could be expensive too. There are very few real butchers left... -- Shaun. "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'. |
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:31:44 -0700, Arri London >
wrote: >> Hopefully you saw the part about me being sarcastic. >> >> -sw > >Weirdly enough, it showed up later when I reloaded the group. But not at >the time I replied. My ISP/newsgroup provider often splits threads in a >strange way. > >So sorry ![]() The way he had it quoted you can see he was replying to me and was confident in the fact that I understand his sense of humor. Actually we're both a bit twisted but at least we both talk about food most of the time. At least everything is all nicey-nicey here again in Pleasantville. <g> Lou |
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![]() Lou Decruss wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:31:44 -0700, Arri London > > wrote: > > >> Hopefully you saw the part about me being sarcastic. > >> > >> -sw > > > >Weirdly enough, it showed up later when I reloaded the group. But not at > >the time I replied. My ISP/newsgroup provider often splits threads in a > >strange way. > > > >So sorry ![]() > > The way he had it quoted you can see he was replying to me and was > confident in the fact that I understand his sense of humor. Actually > we're both a bit twisted but at least we both talk about food most of > the time. At least everything is all nicey-nicey here again in > Pleasantville. <g> > > Lou LOL! Nicey nicey but for how long ![]() |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:13:30 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:53:41 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: > >> Arri London wrote: >>> >>> Some people just have too much time (and minced meat) on their hands ![]() >>> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337182.stm >> >> But it's not a meatball. It's a spherical shape >> made of meat, but it's not a meatball. A meatball >> is made from raw meat and other ingrediants, then >> cooked. This sphere was either made from cooked >> meat (which seems likely from the cracks, indicating >> it can't support its own weight) or if made from >> raw meat it's still raw on the inside, hence dangerous >> to eat. > >I would bet it was indeed made from raw meat. The cracks would form >naturally as it cooked. > >I want to know hoe much fat is in the "skillet" and what the raw >weight of it was before cooking. That would depend drastically on where the meat came from. I've been grinding my own and there isn't enough fat to pan fry a burger without adding a few drops of oil. It's not a big deal because I almost always grill them. In the past when I browned meat for tacos I had to tilt the pan and get the fat out. Now there's nothing. I have to watch the pan so the meat doesn't stick but it's fine by me. I've had an electric grinder for less than a year but it doesn't take long to become hooked. After reading about all the shit that happens with ground meat I don't want to ever buy it again. I'll get on shemps bandwagon and say anyone who uses ground meat needs a grinder. Lou |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:22:13 -0700, Arri London >
wrote: > > >Lou Decruss wrote: >> >> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:31:44 -0700, Arri London > >> wrote: >> >> >> Hopefully you saw the part about me being sarcastic. >> >> >> >> -sw >> > >> >Weirdly enough, it showed up later when I reloaded the group. But not at >> >the time I replied. My ISP/newsgroup provider often splits threads in a >> >strange way. >> > >> >So sorry ![]() >> >> The way he had it quoted you can see he was replying to me and was >> confident in the fact that I understand his sense of humor. Actually >> we're both a bit twisted but at least we both talk about food most of >> the time. At least everything is all nicey-nicey here again in >> Pleasantville. <g> >> >> Lou > > >LOL! Nicey nicey but for how long ![]() Probably the usual. 30 seconds. Lou |
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