Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
who have done no one any harm.

Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.

Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
good animals, really.

In m,
Kenneth Leja > typed:
> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

Would you rather just sloly starve to death?

Kenneth Leja wrote:

>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

Hmmn. A troll who's never been attacked by a flock of wild turkeys. Mean
little birds. And good with gravy.




Dawn

On 17 Nov 2003 15:33:05 -0800, (Kenneth Leja)
wrote:

>Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
>who have done no one any harm.
>
>Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
>season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
>thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
>so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
>Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
>good animals, really.

Just shut up and lay your head on the block!

......Alan.

--
Curiosity killed the cat -
lack of it is killing mankind.

Kenneth Leja wrote:
> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

Hello! Ever heard of the food chain? Why do you think you have canines?
For looks? We grew up in and around eating flesh, so get used to it.

BTW, do you give a shit about the 2 billions of children and adults that
are dying of hunger and curable diseases? I bet you consider them
inferior to a baby seal, turkey, dog, cat, et cetera.

What friggin hypocrisy!

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

"Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
m...
> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

When the turkey's stop eating insects I'll stop eating turkeys.

Why don't you start feeding them tofu.

Dimitri



http://msucares.com/wildfish/altent/...rkey/diet.html

The eastern wild turkey is a strong scratcher and requires a diet of diverse
plant and animal material. During their first 2 weeks of life, turkey poults
feed almost entirely on protein-rich insects. After 4 weeks of age, their
diets gradually change to those of adults, which feed primarily on a wide
variety of plant matter (seeds, leaves, fruits, tubers, forbs, grasses) and
insects. In addition to grassy "bugging" areas, summer and winter food
plantings that provide desirable foliage, fruit, and seed production are
beneficial. During fall and early winter months, turkeys use mast crops of
oaks, pines, and several other fruit-producing trees and shrubs (e.g.,
dogwoods and huckleberry).

On 11/17/2003 4:24 PM, in article , "Richard
Periut" > opined:

> Kenneth Leja wrote:
>> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
>> who have done no one any harm.
>>
>> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
>> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
>> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
>> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>>
>> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
>> good animals, really.
>
> Hello! Ever heard of the food chain? Why do you think you have canines?
> For looks? We grew up in and around eating flesh, so get used to it.
>
> BTW, do you give a shit about the 2 billions of children and adults that
> are dying of hunger and curable diseases? I bet you consider them
> inferior to a baby seal, turkey, dog, cat, et cetera.
>
> What friggin hypocrisy!
>
> Richard

These peta ****s **** me off more than Democrats.

After all people have enough to eat we can start worrying about animals.

I have a pair of snake skin cowboy boots I'm proud to tell peta ****s the
snake was anally electrocuted to make my boots.

> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

It's us or them baby... survival of the fittest. Don't think for one second
that if the rolls were reversed, they wouldn't be stuffin' us full of
oysters n' bread... in a heart beat I tells ya.

Gobble gobble,

J.

Jamie_Canuck wrote:

> It's us or them baby... survival of the fittest. Don't think for one second
> that if the rolls were reversed, they wouldn't be stuffin' us full of
> oysters n' bread... in a heart beat I tells ya.

You turn over your rolls?

nancy (confused, never heard of that)

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Jamie_Canuck wrote:
>
> > It's us or them baby... survival of the fittest. Don't think for one
second
> > that if the rolls were reversed, they wouldn't be stuffin' us full of
> > oysters n' bread... in a heart beat I tells ya.
>
> You turn over your rolls?
>
> nancy (confused, never heard of that)

No, no, no, I roll my turnovers.... sorry for the confusion.

J.

"All I'm saying is that a bird that goes around saying 'Gobble,
Gobble, Gobble,' is just asking to be eaten..."

Jack

[or something like that]


On 17 Nov 2003 15:33:05 -0800, (Kenneth Leja)
wrote:

>Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
>who have done no one any harm.
>
>Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
>season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
>thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
>so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
>Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
>good animals, really.

Kenneth Leja > wrote:
>Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you?

The list is too long to recount, but rest assured, it
will happen again this year.

--Blair
"Tasty *******s."

Kenneth Leja ), citing the Rules of Acquisition to
rec.food.cooking, says...

> We're
> good animals, really.

Indeed. Especially with cranberry sauce.

Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.


If you were not being farmed, you'd most likely have never been born in
the first place..... ;-)

K. (aka carnivore...)

--
>^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< >^,,^<

"There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are
all owned by cats" -- Asimov

Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry
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Dawn wrote:
>
> Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
> >
> > Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> > good animals, really.
>
> Hmmn. A troll who's never been attacked by a flock of wild turkeys. Mean
> little birds. And good with gravy.
>
> Dawn


<boggle> Mean? :-)

I have a pair of Bourbon Red turkeys that are pets, and a "rescued"
broad breasted white hen that is also a pet...

I still eat turkey for Thanksgiving tho', just not my pet ones...

The hens are some of the sweetest, tamest, gentlest and friendly birds
in my henyard! The Tom is standoffish, but not mean. He's just plain
gorgeous when he struts!

Oh, you said "wild" turkeys... Tough critters. I'd rather have store bought.

K.

--
>^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< >^,,^<

"There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are
all owned by cats" -- Asimov

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Hark! I heard Katra > say:
> Kenneth Leja wrote:

<snip>
> > Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> > good animals, really.

> If you were not being farmed, you'd most likely have never been born in
> the first place..... ;-)

Which means they owe us for what life they *do* have! Therefore, they
should be grateful, and proud to offer up their carcasses so that we
can thank God, watch football, and eat ourselves sick.

BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...


--
j.j. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

Have a happy Thanksgiving, ya big Turkey!

```````````````````````````````

On 17 Nov 2003 15:33:05 -0800, (Kenneth
Leja) wrote:

> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

(Kenneth Leja) wrote in
m:

snip
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

Don't be so selfish! Think of someone else for a change.

It's either you, or the pigs.

Which is it gonna be?

Terri

In article >, Katra
> wrote:
>
> I have a pair of Bourbon Red turkeys that are pets, and a "rescued"
> broad breasted white hen that is also a pet...
>
> I still eat turkey for Thanksgiving tho', just not my pet ones...

First rule of farming (especially if you're in 4H): Don't name your
livestock. Easier to send "that one over there" than to send Wattles,
Tommy, and Hen-rietta off to the stockyard. :-)
--
-Barb
State Fair prizewinning jams and jellies for sale at the Burnsville
Senior Citizens Bake Sale, November 19, 2003; 9:00 a.m. -6:00 p.m.
Diamondhead Education Center, Burnsville Parkway & Nicollet Aves,
Burnsville. 952-707-4120

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> In article >, Katra
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a pair of Bourbon Red turkeys that are pets, and a "rescued"
> > broad breasted white hen that is also a pet...
> >
> > I still eat turkey for Thanksgiving tho', just not my pet ones...
>
> First rule of farming (especially if you're in 4H): Don't name your
> livestock. Easier to send "that one over there" than to send Wattles,
> Tommy, and Hen-rietta off to the stockyard. :-)
> --
> -Barb

Or name them appropriately. ;-)

I _have_ raised modern bronzes for eating and if you do not eat them at
an appropriate age, they don't live very long. They get so big they can
hardly waddle! <G> Ladybird, the broad breasted white, should have had
this happen to her as well, but with Lucky Tom chasing her around for
mating, she keeps her weight down. I've had her now for 3 years and she
is doing well. She also lays the most FABULOUS eggs. Turkey eggs are
wunderful pan steamed with a little butter. I tried hatching some of
her first year eggs, but they did not hatch. I'm thinking next year that
if a Muscovie hen goes broody while Lady is laying again, I might try
letting them set them instead of using an incubator. Muscovie ducks are
big enough to set 6 or 7 turkey eggs.

The last time I raised three modern bronzes for eating, we named them
"Thanksgiving", "Christmas" and "New Years"! <G>

K.

--
>^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< >^,,^<

"There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are
all owned by cats" -- Asimov

Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...s&userid=katra

In article >,
wrote:

> Jamie_Canuck wrote:

[snip]


> You turn over your rolls?
>
> nancy (confused, never heard of that)


Boy, next thing you know you're going to be talking about her buns!


:-)

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

In article >, Katra
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > First rule of farming (especially if you're in 4H): Don't name your
> > livestock. Easier to send "that one over there" than to send Wattles,
> > Tommy, and Hen-rietta off to the stockyard. :-)
> > --
> > -Barb
>
> Or name them appropriately. ;-)
(snip)
> The last time I raised three modern bronzes for eating, we named them
> "Thanksgiving", "Christmas" and "New Years"! <G>
>
> K.

ROTFL!!! Atta girl!
--
-Barb
State Fair prizewinning jams and jellies for sale at the Burnsville
Senior Citizens Bake Sale, November 19, 2003; 9:00 a.m. -6:00 p.m.
Diamondhead Education Center, Burnsville Parkway & Nicollet Aves,
Burnsville. 952-707-4120

"j.j." wrote:

> BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...

You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.

We're goofing on the troll.

nancy

In article >,
wrote:

> "j.j." wrote:
>
> > BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
>
> You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.


You got to be kidding me, Nancy. You mean that turkeys don't post to
newsgroups?


:-)

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Dan Abel wrote:

> wrote:
>
> > "j.j." wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
> >
> > You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.
>
> You got to be kidding me, Nancy. You mean that turkeys don't post to
> newsgroups?
>
> :-)

Oh, I thought they typed with their little peckers.

nancy

In ,
Nancy Young > typed:
> "j.j." wrote:
>
>> BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
>
> You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.
>
> We're goofing on the troll.

Poking the troll with a pointy stick!

BOB

Hark! I heard say:
> "j.j." wrote:
>
> > BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
>
> You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.
>
> We're goofing on the troll.

Certainly, but the original post garnered quite a few responses,
tongue-in-cheek or otherwise. Replies are the true purpose of a
troll, and it succeeded masterfully...


--
j.j. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

In article > ,
(Kenneth Leja) wrote:
>Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
>who have done no one any harm.

It's your own dang fault for being so freakin' tasty!

--
Mark Shaw contact info at homepage --> http://www.panix.com/~mshaw
================================================== ======================
"It looks great at night. In the day, it winces like a hungover vampire."
-James Lileks, on Las Vegas

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "j.j." wrote:
>
> > BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
>
> You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.
>
> We're goofing on the troll.
>
> nancy


It's successful if it builds a small thread. ;-)
There have been a lot of replies to it....

K.


--
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"There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are
all owned by cats" -- Asimov

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Nancy Young wrote:
>
> Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "j.j." wrote:
> > >
> > > > BTW, congratulations on a successful troll, Kenneth Leja...
> > >
> > > You kidding? I've never seen a more transparent troll in my 37 years.
> >
> > You got to be kidding me, Nancy. You mean that turkeys don't post to
> > newsgroups?
> >
> > :-)
>
> Oh, I thought they typed with their little peckers.
>
> nancy


ROFLMAO!!! ;-D

Danke!

K.

--
>^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< >^,,^<

"There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are
all owned by cats" -- Asimov

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"Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
...
> In article > ,
> (Kenneth Leja) wrote:
> >Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> >who have done no one any harm.
>
> It's your own dang fault for being so freakin' tasty!
>

I am always amused when people talk about "innocent" turkeys (or some other
animal that people like to eat). Are there guilty turkeys? If so, is it OK
to kill and eat them? How do you tell a guilty turkey from an innocent one -
hold a trial? Are there turkey lawyers? Judges? Who could be on the jury? It
really opens up a whole hornet's nest of questions.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

In article > ,
"Peter Aitken" > wrote:

> "Mark Shaw" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article > ,
> > (Kenneth Leja) wrote:
> > >Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> > >who have done no one any harm.
> >
> > It's your own dang fault for being so freakin' tasty!
> >
>
> I am always amused when people talk about "innocent" turkeys (or some other
> animal that people like to eat). Are there guilty turkeys? If so, is it OK
> to kill and eat them? How do you tell a guilty turkey from an innocent one -
> hold a trial? Are there turkey lawyers? Judges? Who could be on the jury? It
> really opens up a whole hornet's nest of questions.

Judge to the jury: "Well, ladies and gentleman, have you reached a
verdict?"

Jury to judge: "Yes, your honor, we have. Off with his head!"

Judge to defendant: " Sir, have you any last words?"

Defendant shouts defiantly: "Gobble, gobble, gobble!"

Regards,
Dave W.

--
Living in the Ozarks. For email, dot edu will do!

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> In article >, Katra
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a pair of Bourbon Red turkeys that are pets, and a "rescued"
> > broad breasted white hen that is also a pet...
> >
> > I still eat turkey for Thanksgiving tho', just not my pet ones...
>
> First rule of farming (especially if you're in 4H): Don't name your
> livestock. Easier to send "that one over there" than to send Wattles,
> Tommy, and Hen-rietta off to the stockyard. :-)
> --
> -Barb
> State Fair prizewinning jams and jellies for sale at the Burnsville
> Senior Citizens Bake Sale, November 19, 2003; 9:00 a.m. -6:00 p.m.
> Diamondhead Education Center, Burnsville Parkway & Nicollet Aves,
> Burnsville. 952-707-4120

Some years ago a relative gave my daughter two cute little bunny rabbits. He
forgot to tell me these were to grow to very large sizes, in the 20 to 30
pound class. And he forgot to tell me they were a male and a female.

A few months later we had over 20 of them. We would have had more but males
have the nasty habit of castrating other males by biting them where it hurts
most. We had to keep the bucks separate form each other.

I decided to cook one to see what they tasted like. I still remember the
horrified look in my daughter's face when I had Isabel (they all had names
except the two bucks) ready to slaughter. I had to let her go.

They say they taste like chicken. I will never know although my supermarket
carried them for a while.

I gave them away to a guy who raised them after a visit from the county
inspector and a citation for keeping livestock on a residential lot.

By the way, they produce lots of fertilizer that smells to high heaven. Worse
than hog pens.

People,

All you fellow meat-eaters. How many times do we need to tell you.
Quit falling for their bait. This is how PETA gets off. The put
stuff like this on their sites, wait for you to go off and then use it
against us. The best response for this is to ignor it or post your
favorite recipe using turkey. They don't think rationally like normal
people do. They would put an animal over a human any day of the week.
They sponser terrorist groups (read Animal Liberation Front). They
use tactics like this to recruit people to their cause.

John

"Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
m...
> Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> who have done no one any harm.
>
> Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
>
> Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> good animals, really.

Being a lurker, I didn't realize that this was a troll but I found it
humorous nevertheless....

Now for my response:

"As a species, humans didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become
vegetarians!"

or

"Vegetarians = Old Indian word for "Shitty Hunter"

Maverick
(Still thinking up a sig line here)




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My son's 2nd grade teacher sent home something like this and read it to the
class in school right before thanksgiving one that year...really ****ed me
off sending all the kids off to not eat holiday dinner..

Laura


"Maverick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Dear posters, what did we turkeys ever do to you? We're innocent birds
> > who have done no one any harm.
> >
> > Yet you slaughter us by the tens of millions during the Thanksgiving
> > season. Why? You say you want to thank god but what do we have to
> > thank for? Why should we be sacrificed just so you can thank God? Just
> > so you can stuff yourselfs and become fat and watch Football games.
> >
> > Please spare me and my family. Please don't kill us en masse. We're
> > good animals, really.
>
> Being a lurker, I didn't realize that this was a troll but I found it
> humorous nevertheless....
>
> Now for my response:
>
> "As a species, humans didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become
> vegetarians!"
>
> or
>
> "Vegetarians = Old Indian word for "Shitty Hunter"
>
> Maverick
> (Still thinking up a sig line here)
>
>
>
>
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Maverick wrote:
>
<snipped>
>
> "Vegetarians = Old Indian word for "Shitty Hunter"
>
> Maverick
> (Still thinking up a sig line here)

Damn! You own me a new monitor!!! ;-D

I was drinking a glass of wine and now I am ROFLMAO, and so is dad. <G>

Thanks!

And, oh, I personally think that that's an excellent sig!

K.

Laura wrote:
>
> My son's 2nd grade teacher sent home something like this and read it to the
> class in school right before thanksgiving one that year...really ****ed me
> off sending all the kids off to not eat holiday dinner..
>
> Laura
>

I'm sure she was a vegetarian... ;-p

I'm sure that you taught your kids better than that. <G>

Vegetarianism borders on religion. I'll bet that you can register a
complaint and get the moron reprimanded.

K.