"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> > Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
>
> >t's November. The Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale is
> >on the specialty shelf of your supermarket's chilled-beer
> >aisle. I just had one. It's very, very good this year,
> >(when you get past the skunk-cabbage odor at the beginning,
> >but just start drinking and it turns into a lovely bouquet).
> >
> > --Blair
> > "Don't try this at home, kids."
> >
>
> It's those damn clear glass bottles. Samuel Smith's make some very
excellent
> beer, but they insist on putting it in clear glass. By the time we get
them,
> they're light struck.
>
> Jim
>
>

Which is a problem if you believe that photons affect malt beverages.

Jack Light

In article <1XCub.241713$HS4.2125218@attbi_s01>, notbob
> wrote:

> On 2003-11-19, notbob > wrote:
>
> Oops!
> ...Southern Comfort - served however it takes
> to suppress your gag reflex
>
> nb

Oh, STOP IT!! Jeez, can't you people enjoy a little bit of something
without making yourself sick because you only had a little bit instead
of a lot?

Oh, I forgot to mention that the Southern Comfort is good in Blueberry
Jam, too. :-)
--
-Barb
State Fair prizewinning jams and jellies for sale at the Burnsville
Senior Citizens Bake Sale, November 19, 2003; 9:00 a.m. -6:00 p.m.
Diamondhead Education Center, Burnsville Parkway & Nicollet Aves,
Burnsville. 952-707-4120

Blair P. Houghton > wrote in message >.. .

> I could tell a story about every bottle. And choose a
> bottle for any story.

OK, how about:

> Hiram Walker Butternips Butterscotch Schnapps
>

I'll help you get started:

"Dear Penthouse, I used to think the letters you print were made-up,
until yesterday. I was on my way to the liquor store when I passed
the local high school. It was raining, and cheerleading practice had
just gotten out. I nearly drove my car into a tree when I saw the
most beautiful blonde girl standing on her own. She obviously needed
a ride, and I wasn't about to let her cath pneumonia out in the rain."

Greg Zywicki

"Dude, I got so messed up on fanta and cinnamon scnapps after the
homecoming game."

In article >, Blair P. Houghton
> wrote:
> SC fits a certain taste that drinkers may have acquired
> in childhood in backwoods parties.

I didn't drink when I was underage! Very much. (Well, we only got
kicked out of one bar because I wasn't of legal drinking age -- I think
Rob was more embarrassed than I. He's got a few years on me.) I
didn't have Southern Comfort until at least my late 30s. Then again,
the first time I was offered Scotch I asked for Seven-Up with it. Got a
look and a lecture. Hmmmm, I wasn't 21 yet then, either.

>In that way, it's the same as Boone's Farm wine.

:-P
--
-Barb
State Fair prizewinning jams and jellies for sale at the Burnsville
Senior Citizens Bake Sale, November 19, 2003; 9:00 a.m. -6:00 p.m.
Diamondhead Education Center, Burnsville Parkway & Nicollet Aves,
Burnsville. 952-707-4120

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >, Blair P. Houghton
> > wrote:
>
>>SC fits a certain taste that drinkers may have acquired
>>in childhood in backwoods parties.
>
>
> I didn't drink when I was underage! Very much. (Well, we only got
> kicked out of one bar because I wasn't of legal drinking age -- I think
> Rob was more embarrassed than I. He's got a few years on me.) I
> didn't have Southern Comfort until at least my late 30s. Then again,
> the first time I was offered Scotch I asked for Seven-Up with it. Got a
> look and a lecture. Hmmmm, I wasn't 21 yet then, either.
>

I still have never tried Scotch. I'm not old enough. I've only recently
aquired a taste for gin.

BTW, 18 was probably the legal drinking age when you were young. It was
when I was a teenager, and I legally drank plenty of beer my last semester
in high school. Twenty-one seems too old a limit for beer and wine.

Best regards,
Bob

"Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in message
s.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:15:51 GMT, wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:32:30 GMT, Tim Challenger
> > <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:43:23 GMT, wrote:
> >>
> >>> As a homebrewer, I've come to appreciate good beer,
> >>
> >>yea, the stuff you buy in a bar. ;-)
>
> > My stuff is excellent, full-bodied, malty, and perfectly carbonated,
> > with no haze or sediment.
>
> Then it's not "real". It has to be a little bit cloudy.

Not true at all - homebrew can (and should) be crystal clear. I am not sure
about the "no sediment" claim. I do not know of any way to avoid sediment
unless you carbonate with pressurized CO2 rather than the tradition priming
method.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Don't let anyone tell you to mix a rum and Coke, that drink is
disgusting. You might have to acquire a few more liqueurs, but a Mai Tai
is a very excellent drink, especially when they are strong. (of course,
the umbrella is optional)

A martini is a good gin drink. Another, on the same level as rum and
Coke, is gin mixed with black cherry soda. A Gibson is another
interesting gin drink.

Southern Comfort is ok. I shy away from the hard stuff anyway. Best to
sip it off and then leave it, like the rest of the 'cabinet'. While I
wouldn't call Southern Comfort 'rot gut' (and 'rot gut' is a story in
itself) there are brands out there that really ain't healthy.

If you are interested in drinks, a good way to start off is to bone up
and then go to a good bar and let the bartender mix it for you. Bars
with high turn-over have certain advantages when it comes to
ingredients; for instance, I have a five year old bottle of bitters in
the frig that I can't seem to get rid of it.

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
m...
> "Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in message
> s.com...
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:15:51 GMT, wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:32:30 GMT, Tim Challenger
> > > <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote:
> >
> > >>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:43:23 GMT, wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> As a homebrewer, I've come to appreciate good beer,
> > >>
> > >>yea, the stuff you buy in a bar. ;-)
> >
> > > My stuff is excellent, full-bodied, malty, and perfectly carbonated,
> > > with no haze or sediment.
> >
> > Then it's not "real". It has to be a little bit cloudy.
>
> Not true at all - homebrew can (and should) be crystal clear. I am not
sure
> about the "no sediment" claim. I do not know of any way to avoid sediment
> unless you carbonate with pressurized CO2 rather than the tradition
priming
> method.
>
>

Some homebrewers add Irish moss to aid in clarifying the beer. I dunno
about no sediment; could be that he's pouring from a small keg or it could
be that he uses another carboy for secondary fermentation before bottling.
Still, 'no' sediment seems a bit outside the norm.

Jack Zymurgista (in a former life)

Jack Schidt=AE wrote:
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> m...
>=20
>>"Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in mess=
age
ews.com...
>>
>>>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:15:51 GMT, wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:32:30 GMT, Tim Challenger
>>>><"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:43:23 GMT, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As a homebrewer, I've come to appreciate good beer,
>>>>>
>>>>>yea, the stuff you buy in a bar. ;-)
>>>
>>>>My stuff is excellent, full-bodied, malty, and perfectly carbonated,
>>>>with no haze or sediment.
>>>
>>>Then it's not "real". It has to be a little bit cloudy.
>>
>>Not true at all - homebrew can (and should) be crystal clear. I am not
>=20
> sure
>=20
>>about the "no sediment" claim. I do not know of any way to avoid sedime=
nt
>>unless you carbonate with pressurized CO2 rather than the tradition
>=20
> priming
>=20
>>method.
>>
>>
>=20
>=20
> Some homebrewers add Irish moss to aid in clarifying the beer. I dunno=

> about no sediment; could be that he's pouring from a small keg or it co=
uld
> be that he uses another carboy for secondary fermentation before bottli=
ng.
> Still, 'no' sediment seems a bit outside the norm.
>=20
> Jack Zymurgista (in a former life)
>=20
>=20

I agree. Sediment is very tough to avoid but mine usually comes out very =

clear.

One more thing. Do *not* put it in the refridgerator! <blech>

Michael Siemon wrote:

> Do _not_ use "supermarket" tonic -- it's dreadful stuff. Schweppes
> or Canada Dry at a pinch.

Unrelated story. I had a big party a number of years back. Big pool
party, tons of guests. Doorbell rings, it's the kid next door.

Hi, what's up? My mother sent this. It's a bottle of Schweppes
tonic. Oh, thanks very much, tell her I said thank you!

Let's just say this was a beer and wine crowd, and I didn't have any
gin. I thought that was really odd for my neighbor to send over a
bottle of tonic.

Well, some time later I thanked her for it (it was still unopened,
sitting in the cabinet) and she looked at me like what the hell are
you talking about? I told her about her son bringing over the tonic,
we had a good laugh over it. She didn't send it, the kid decided,
party, you need tonic.

Anyway. (laugh) nancy

In article m>,
timothychallengerapk <> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:04:35 -0600, zxcvbob wrote:



> > BTW, 18 was probably the legal drinking age when you were young. It was
> > when I was a teenager, and I legally drank plenty of beer my last semester
> > in high school. Twenty-one seems too old a limit for beer and wine.


> Was the legal drinking age lower before in the US?
> Being a Brit, I wouldn't know about these things. When did it change?


Well, I was going to post something about how here in the states we are
into state's rights, and so each state sets its own drinking age. I
thought I'd do a quick Google search and find out what the age limits were
in each state. Well, lo and behold, the Federal government passed a law
saying that any state with a drinking age less than 21 would lose some
federal transportation funding. This law was passed in 1984, and by 1988
all states had the same drinking laws (must be 21). I guess since I was
far over the age of 21 back then, and my kids were a long way from 21, I
didn't pay any attention to it. The article said that during the 70's, 29
states lowered the drinking age. Back in the seventies (which was when I
turned 21), many of us were upset that we were old enough to be drafted
and sent to Viet Nam as cannon fodder, but we weren't old enough to vote
or buy alcohol.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

"Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in message
s.com...
> Was the legal drinking age lower before in the US?
> Being a Brit, I wouldn't know about these things. When did it change?

There isn't really such a thing as the "legal drinking age in
the US" - it varies from state to state. 18 and 21 are both
typical values, and some states have a two-stage law where
21 is the age for most alcoholic beverages, but an 18-year-old
can legally buy low-alcohol beers ("3.2%"), etc..

Bob M.

Bob Myers > wrote:

> "Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in message
> s.com...
> > Was the legal drinking age lower before in the US?
> > Being a Brit, I wouldn't know about these things. When did it change?

> There isn't really such a thing as the "legal drinking age in
> the US" - it varies from state to state. 18 and 21 are both
> typical values, and some states have a two-stage law where
> 21 is the age for most alcoholic beverages, but an 18-year-old
> can legally buy low-alcohol beers ("3.2%"), etc..

As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
federal government decided to strongarm the states into
setting the same age (21) everywhere. This was done under
the urging of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers and some other
"safety" lobbyists. Before then, it did vary from state
to state and I well remember back in the 1970s when New Jersey
had a drinking age of 21 and New York's was 18. There is
a lake the straddles the border of NJ and NY called Greenwood
Lake. The whole shorline in the NY half was line with bars,
while there were none on the NJ half. It was a popular
destination for Seniors at my high school in NJ. ;-)


I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
the individual states, but effectively it's not.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

writes:
> As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
> federal government decided to strongarm the states into
> setting the same age (21) everywhere.

Indeed, the Minimum Drinkking Age Act of 1984 ties Federal Highway
Funds to the age of 21 for public consumption and purchase. Whether
or not people under 21 can legally *drink* alcohol in private varies
from state to state.

> I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
> the individual states, but effectively it's not.

And there are many subtle differences and loopholes, including

1. Most states make it illegal both to sell to minors, and for minors
to purchase, but some states only make the selling illegal. As a
consequence, in some states minors can legally possess alcohol,
although often the person that gave or sold it to them is breaking the
law. And whether they can drink it or not is another matter...
2. As mentioned above, in some states the consumption itself by minors
isn't forbidden.
3. I don't think there still exist any states with "private clubs"
that are allowed serve under-21, but some of these existed into the
90s.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> writes:
>
>>As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
>>federal government decided to strongarm the states into
>>setting the same age (21) everywhere.
>
>
> Indeed, the Minimum Drinkking Age Act of 1984 ties Federal Highway
> Funds to the age of 21 for public consumption and purchase. Whether
> or not people under 21 can legally *drink* alcohol in private varies
> from state to state.
>
>
>>I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
>>the individual states, but effectively it's not.
>
>
> And there are many subtle differences and loopholes, including
>
> 1. Most states make it illegal both to sell to minors, and for minors
> to purchase, but some states only make the selling illegal. As a
> consequence, in some states minors can legally possess alcohol,
> although often the person that gave or sold it to them is breaking the
> law. And whether they can drink it or not is another matter...
> 2. As mentioned above, in some states the consumption itself by minors
> isn't forbidden.
> 3. I don't think there still exist any states with "private clubs"
> that are allowed serve under-21, but some of these existed into the
> 90s.
>

Never forgot how I stepped behind the bar for 1/2 a minute in my uncle's
restaurant (I was picking up the used steins of beer to bring to the
kitchen,) when someone (some guy pretending to be a customer) pulled out
a badge identifying themselves as ABC (alcohol and beverage control,)
asking me for ID (I was 16.) They fined my uncle a couple of thousands
for having a minor behind an alcohol bar.

Also, when I was a busboy in said establishment, I couldn't help the
waiter out by carrying alcoholic drinks to patrons.

So I couldn't be officially a waiter until 21.

I think NJ laws are one of the most strictest and enforced. I believe we
are the safest state with respect to highway safety, but pay one of the
highest premiums.

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

wrote:
> Bob Myers > wrote:
>
>
>>"Tim Challenger" <"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote in message
ews.com...
>>
>>>Was the legal drinking age lower before in the US?
>>>Being a Brit, I wouldn't know about these things. When did it change?
>>
>
>>There isn't really such a thing as the "legal drinking age in
>>the US" - it varies from state to state. 18 and 21 are both
>>typical values, and some states have a two-stage law where
>>21 is the age for most alcoholic beverages, but an 18-year-old
>>can legally buy low-alcohol beers ("3.2%"), etc..
>
>
> As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
> federal government decided to strongarm the states into
> setting the same age (21) everywhere. This was done under
> the urging of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers and some other
> "safety" lobbyists. Before then, it did vary from state
> to state and I well remember back in the 1970s when New Jersey
> had a drinking age of 21 and New York's was 18. There is
> a lake the straddles the border of NJ and NY called Greenwood
> Lake. The whole shorline in the NY half was line with bars,
> while there were none on the NJ half. It was a popular
> destination for Seniors at my high school in NJ. ;-)
>
>
> I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
> the individual states, but effectively it's not.
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.
>
>

The point is that there was a time called 'happy hour' where everyone
got tanked up. In the present day, there are quite many more cars on the
road and no happy hours, thank the latter, scourge the former. (I
remember traveling to Blacksburg because there was some movie theater
there that had an incredible new sub woofer (a Bose Wave-something). I
saw a Star Trek film, and man, the sound sucked becaused it wasn't mixed
right. My other fond memory of Virginia was that I had the best ribeye
ever: I have never had as good a ribeye than at that place in Virginia.)

Richard Periut wrote:
> Richard Kaszeta wrote:
>
>> writes:
>>
>>> As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
>>> federal government decided to strongarm the states into
>>> setting the same age (21) everywhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed, the Minimum Drinkking Age Act of 1984 ties Federal Highway
>> Funds to the age of 21 for public consumption and purchase. Whether
>> or not people under 21 can legally *drink* alcohol in private varies
>> from state to state.
>>
>>
>>> I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
>>> the individual states, but effectively it's not.
>>
>>
>>
>> And there are many subtle differences and loopholes, including
>>
>> 1. Most states make it illegal both to sell to minors, and for minors
>> to purchase, but some states only make the selling illegal. As a
>> consequence, in some states minors can legally possess alcohol,
>> although often the person that gave or sold it to them is breaking the
>> law. And whether they can drink it or not is another matter...
>> 2. As mentioned above, in some states the consumption itself by minors
>> isn't forbidden.
>> 3. I don't think there still exist any states with "private clubs"
>> that are allowed serve under-21, but some of these existed into the
>> 90s.
>
>
> Never forgot how I stepped behind the bar for 1/2 a minute in my uncle's
> restaurant (I was picking up the used steins of beer to bring to the
> kitchen,) when someone (some guy pretending to be a customer) pulled out
> a badge identifying themselves as ABC (alcohol and beverage control,)
> asking me for ID (I was 16.) They fined my uncle a couple of thousands
> for having a minor behind an alcohol bar.


Did you serve a drink? Or even touch a drink that was being served?
Sounds like a shakedown to me. I wonder if the agent got a kickback from
the fine...

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>> Richard Kaszeta wrote:
>>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> As someone else pointed out, this used to be true until the
>>>> federal government decided to strongarm the states into
>>>> setting the same age (21) everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, the Minimum Drinkking Age Act of 1984 ties Federal Highway
>>> Funds to the age of 21 for public consumption and purchase. Whether
>>> or not people under 21 can legally *drink* alcohol in private varies
>>> from state to state.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess technically the drinking age is still set by
>>>> the individual states, but effectively it's not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And there are many subtle differences and loopholes, including
>>>
>>> 1. Most states make it illegal both to sell to minors, and for minors
>>> to purchase, but some states only make the selling illegal. As a
>>> consequence, in some states minors can legally possess alcohol,
>>> although often the person that gave or sold it to them is breaking the
>>> law. And whether they can drink it or not is another matter...
>>> 2. As mentioned above, in some states the consumption itself by minors
>>> isn't forbidden.
>>> 3. I don't think there still exist any states with "private clubs"
>>> that are allowed serve under-21, but some of these existed into the
>>> 90s.
>>
>>
>>
>> Never forgot how I stepped behind the bar for 1/2 a minute in my
>> uncle's restaurant (I was picking up the used steins of beer to bring
>> to the kitchen,) when someone (some guy pretending to be a customer)
>> pulled out a badge identifying themselves as ABC (alcohol and beverage
>> control,) asking me for ID (I was 16.) They fined my uncle a couple of
>> thousands for having a minor behind an alcohol bar.
>
>
>
> Did you serve a drink? Or even touch a drink that was being served?
> Sounds like a shakedown to me. I wonder if the agent got a kickback
> from the fine...
>
> Best regards,
> Bob
>

No, I didn't touch anyone's drink--let alone serve one.

I did however, touch some 1/4 filled steins with beer, from customers
that had left.

Kickback? Anything is possible : )

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message .com>...
>
> > >t's November. The Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale is
> > >on the specialty shelf of your supermarket's chilled-beer
> > >aisle. I just had one. It's very, very good this year,
> > >(when you get past the skunk-cabbage odor at the beginning,
> > >but just start drinking and it turns into a lovely bouquet).
> > >
> > > --Blair
> > > "Don't try this at home, kids."
> >
> > It's those damn clear glass bottles. Samuel Smith's make some very
> excellent
> > beer, but they insist on putting it in clear glass. By the time we get
> them,
> > they're light struck.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> Which is a problem if you believe that photons affect malt beverages.
>
> Jack Light

Beer is definitely affected by light - UV light breaks down chemicals
in it and produces off flavours.

(Mark Shaw) wrote in message >...
> In article <9Cjub.33912$Dw6.167411@attbi_s02>,
> "Adam Schwartz" > wrote:

>
> >E&J Brandy
> >Bacardi Gold Rum
>
> Eggnog. Let's see:
>
> 8 eggs, separated
> 2 c sugar
> 1 pt cream
> 1 qt milk
> 1 pt brandy
> 1 c rum
>
> Beat whites not quite to soft peaks, gradually adding sugar once
> they start getting foamy. Beat yolks. Combine everything. Chill.
> Garnish with freshly-grated nutmeg.

hey good call here...forgot about eggnog....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


> Or: cuba libre. That's a rum-and-coke with a squeeze of lime. My
> SO adds a couple of dashes of Angostura bitters, but that's not
> entirely traditional.

I'd go with this!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >Southern Comfort
>
> Call the hazmat team and dispose of this safely.

PMSL........

Well....If you're gonna give me a list to read, I have to rate
them.........(but theres no accounting for my personal taste!)

Blair P. Houghton > wrote in message >.. .
> Not to brag or any of that, but here's what's currently
> in my liquor cabinet (I do and *do* for you kids and look
> at the thanks that I get) in no particular order except
> maybe roughtly left-to-right:
>
> Hiram Walker Peppermint Schnapps - 7/10
> Hiram Walker Butternips Butterscotch Schnapps 9/10
> Laphroaig Single Malt Scotch 10/10
> Tott's Brut California Champage 0/10
> Pinch Scotch What is this,non name scotch or something? should not be on the same shelf as the others!!!!!
> Grant's Scotch 9/10
> George Dickel's Tennessee Whiskey no rating, haven't had that one
> Wild Turkey 101 Proof Bourbon Whiskey YES
> Jim Beam Rye 8/10
> Courvoisier Napoleaon Cognac 6/10
> Courvoisier VSOP Cognac 8/10
> Maker's Mark Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 5/10
> Ketel One Vodka - sounds lke Mobil one, oil.
> Cabo Wabo Reposado Tequila 9/10
> Pusser's Rum...another no name hide it one
> Seagram's 7 American Whiskey...nothing seagrams make is any good.
> Stolichnaya Pertsovka Pepper Vodka...hmmmm....pepper, have to try that one.
> Tanqueray Gin...qualified yes.
> Black Bush Irish Whiskey 10/10
> Bombay Sapphire Gin 7/10
> Ciclon Rum/Tequila..its confused or blended?
> Sauza Gold Tequila...has to be good
> Herradura Anejo Tequila see above
> Coyote Flavored Tequila ground up coyote in a bottle?
> Tanqueray Malacca Gin no
> Grand Marnier Orange Liquer...hope she was good for you to have it on the shelf.
> Chambord Raspberry Liquer ditto
> Mozart Chocolate Liquer...oh please, did you have it off with barb Cartland, ffs
> 15 or so different wines from Chardonnay to Fume Blanc to Merlot to Bardolino
> Chopin Vodka...he wrote music, not potato spirit recipes
> Luksusowa Polish Potato Vodka...yes
> Finlandia Vodka...sheesh
> Stolichnaya Vodka...9/10
>
> Recently finished and not replaced:
>
> Famous Grouse scotch (had this bottle for a decade with a half-inch in it;
> only bought it because it came with some nice Double-Old-Fashioned faux
> cut-glass tumblers). Not if I had Laphroaig.
>
> I could tell a story about every bottle. And choose a
> bottle for any story.
>
> --Blair
> "Thanks for the inspiration. Here's to you."

The Alternative Guy wrote:
>
> (Mark Shaw) wrote in message

> > Or: cuba libre. That's a rum-and-coke with a squeeze of lime. My
> > SO adds a couple of dashes of Angostura bitters, but that's not
> > entirely traditional.
>
> I'd go with this!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny, I can only think of cuba libre with a nasty murder.

That's cooba, not qbah.

nancy

"The Alternative Guy" > wrote in message
m...
> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
.com>...
> >
> > > >t's November. The Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale is
> > > >on the specialty shelf of your supermarket's chilled-beer
> > > >aisle. I just had one. It's very, very good this year,
> > > >(when you get past the skunk-cabbage odor at the beginning,
> > > >but just start drinking and it turns into a lovely bouquet).
> > > >
> > > > --Blair
> > > > "Don't try this at home, kids."
> > >
> > > It's those damn clear glass bottles. Samuel Smith's make some very
> > excellent
> > > beer, but they insist on putting it in clear glass. By the time we get
> > them,
> > > they're light struck.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > Which is a problem if you believe that photons affect malt beverages.
> >
> > Jack Light
>
> Beer is definitely affected by light - UV light breaks down chemicals
> in it and produces off flavours.

True that....however, I can only think of sunlight as a source.

Jack UV

The Alternative Guy wrote:
> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message .com>...
>
>>>>t's November. The Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale is
>>>>on the specialty shelf of your supermarket's chilled-beer
>>>>aisle. I just had one. It's very, very good this year,
>>>>(when you get past the skunk-cabbage odor at the beginning,
>>>>but just start drinking and it turns into a lovely bouquet).
>>>>
>>>>--Blair
>>>> "Don't try this at home, kids."
>>>
>>>It's those damn clear glass bottles. Samuel Smith's make some very
>>
>> excellent
>>
>>>beer, but they insist on putting it in clear glass. By the time we get
>>
>> them,
>>
>>>they're light struck.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>
>>Which is a problem if you believe that photons affect malt beverages.
>>
>>Jack Light
>
>
> Beer is definitely affected by light - UV light breaks down chemicals
> in it and produces off flavours.

Yes, especially beers that contain the oils of hops.

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> The Alternative Guy wrote:
> >
> > (Mark Shaw) wrote in message
>
> > > Or: cuba libre. That's a rum-and-coke with a squeeze of lime. My
> > > SO adds a couple of dashes of Angostura bitters, but that's not
> > > entirely traditional.
> >
> > I'd go with this!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Funny, I can only think of cuba libre with a nasty murder.
>
> That's cooba, not qbah.
>
> nancy

Known in Miami as a mentirita (little lie) since Cuba is not libre (free).

Bert

Cult of Nurse's > wrote:

> wrote:
> >
> > federal government decided to strongarm the states into
> > setting the same age (21) everywhere. This was done under
> > the urging of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers and some other
> > "safety" lobbyists. Before then, it did vary from state

> The point is that there was a time called 'happy hour' where everyone
> got tanked up. In the present day, there are quite many more cars on the
> road and no happy hours, thank the latter, scourge the former. (I

You think there are no more "happy hours?" There certainly is
around here. But what does that have to do with drinking age
being 18 or 21, and the states being forced to toe the line?

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

The Alternative Guy > wrote:
>Well....If you're gonna give me a list to read, I have to rate
>them.........(but theres no accounting for my personal taste!)

And your critique gets criticized (because I'm compulsive).

>Blair P. Houghton > wrote in message
>. ..
>> Hiram Walker Peppermint Schnapps - 7/10
>> Hiram Walker Butternips Butterscotch Schnapps 9/10

Especially when you know the things that bottle's seen.

>> Laphroaig Single Malt Scotch 10/10

Too peat-smoky for me. Probably the peatiest scotch I've
ever tasted. Like drinking Eau de Campfire. 7/10

>> Pinch Scotch What is this,non name scotch or something? should not be
>on the same shelf as the others!!!!!

Pinch? I think it's scotch. Comes in that funky
triangularoidal bottle. Best thing about it. 4/10,
despite the top-shelf-domestic price. Here's a pic
of the bottle that doesn't really show the funny shape:
http://www.bevmo.com/productinfo.asp...id=00000003564

>> Grant's Scotch 9/10

I didn't think so. 5/10.

>> George Dickel's Tennessee Whiskey no rating, haven't had that one

Best Tennessee Whiskey I've ever had (the branch of the
Whiskey family in which Jack Daniels resides). I'd go 8/10.

>> Wild Turkey 101 Proof Bourbon Whiskey YES

The standard for bourbons so far. But must be cut with
at least a little water or you can't actually taste it.

>> Jim Beam Rye 8/10

Ow. You kidding? I keep it around for self-flagellation
and hard-core political events (presidential election
returns coming in? get out the Rye). Rye is the original
American Whiskey, so it gets my vicarious historical juices
flowing. There is a 101-proof Wild Turkey Rye that I'm
trying to procure, locally, as I don't feel comfortable
with mail-order booze. I expect the Wild Turkey Rye will
be a great deal better than the Beam, which has a bouquet
and flavor which for all the world reminds me of a working
auto-repair shop. 4/10 and damn proud of it.

>> Courvoisier Napoleaon Cognac 6/10
>> Courvoisier VSOP Cognac 8/10

You have those backwards. I'm frankly amazed that I don't
own a bottle of any kind of XO. I'm slightly surprised
that I never bought a bottle of the Louis XVIII back when
they were under $1000. And I'm starting to wonder why
I never got a bottle of Germain-Robin XO (best I've ever
tasted, by far). I think that's the one I'll pursue. 111/10
if I ever do.

>> Maker's Mark Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 5/10

I'd say it's a 7 or 8.

>> Ketel One Vodka - sounds lke Mobil one, oil.

Yeah, but tastes like buttery sex. Best vodka there is.
Best spirit there is, in most bars. Very slightly
technically it's jenever, not vodka, but only very
slightly, so it's not wrongly labelled. 10/10

>> Cabo Wabo Reposado Tequila 9/10

Eh. 7/10. And they've redone the labels to be less colorful
so they fit next to all those uppity new boutique tequilas. -1
for that: 6/10. But this is one of the older bottles, so 7/10
until I do two more shots. Then I'm probably done with it, as
at $46 a bottle it's at least $10 more than it's worth.

>> Pusser's Rum...another no name hide it one

No name? Pusser's is the rum that held the Royal Navy
contract to be the sailors' daily grog ration for the
umpty-hundred years that the Royal Navy had some
****ing class. So the last thing it is is no-name.
However, it's not really very impressive. I like Mount
*** better, and I could probably get into tasting rums
and find some really good ones. 7/10.

>> Seagram's 7 American Whiskey...nothing seagrams make is any good.

Goes great in 7-and-7, which is why I have it. 5/10
without the pop, 9/10 with. Using any other whiskey just
doesn't make it taste like great ginger ale.

>> Stolichnaya Pertsovka Pepper Vodka...hmmmm....pepper, have to try that one.

Spicy and fun, once. But order it as a shot at a bar,
because I haven't cracked it in 10 years.

>> Black Bush Irish Whiskey 10/10

Most people never even think to try it.

>> Tanqueray Gin...qualified yes.
>> Bombay Sapphire Gin 7/10

Couple of points low on both of those. I'll try "No. 10"
gin some day, and probably not be impressed.

>> Ciclon Rum/Tequila..its confused or blended?

Blended. 9:1 Rum:Tequila. With a little lime.
Interesting as a shot, and makes my current favorite
cocktail: 2 oz Ciclon, juice of 1/2 lime, 12 oz cold diet
7-up. Damn tasty with popcorn and a DVD on a hot night.
Like a Margarita fresca (no, that's not a Margarita made
with Fresca).

>> Sauza Gold Tequila...has to be good
>> Herradura Anejo Tequila see above

"Gold" on Tequila usually means it's only got some agave
distillates in it, and is half corn-liquor (cf. Cuervo
Gold). I made a mistake buying that version of Sauza.
2/10. The Herradura is great straight (for tequila),
but makes odd-tasting margs. 8/10.

>> Coyote Flavored Tequila ground up coyote in a bottle?

Unless coyotes are spicy, no. It's just got a few extra
ingredients to try to take the edge off. It fails. 5/10.

>> Grand Marnier Orange Liquer...hope she was good for you to have it on
>> the shelf.
>> Chambord Raspberry Liquer ditto
>> Mozart Chocolate Liquer...oh please, did you have it off with barb
>> Cartland, ffs

(Mello) Ohhhhhh yeahhhh. (/Mello)

Chambord, especially, is ideal for ingestible intimate
activities. All three of those, btw, are miniatures.
Emergency supply for when the attitude strikes. All
of the other things in my list were full sized, and
the Ketel One and Seagram's were 1.75-liter bottles
(and I wish I could find the Ciclon in a big jug).

>> Luksusowa Polish Potato Vodka...yes

Very good, and one of the only true Polish Potato vodkas
in the world, but no patch on Ketel One.

>> Finlandia Vodka...sheesh

Yeh. 5/10 at best.

>> Stolichnaya Vodka...9/10

Way overrated. Got its rep from being semi-contraband
from the Soviet Union in the '70s and '80s. Ketel one
kicks its nads back to the gulag. 7/10.

--Blair
"They never shipped us the
good stuff anyway."

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:04:24 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:

>The Alternative Guy > wrote:
>>Well....If you're gonna give me a list to read, I have to rate
>>them.........(but theres no accounting for my personal taste!)
>
>And your critique gets criticized (because I'm compulsive).
>
>>Blair P. Houghton > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Hiram Walker Peppermint Schnapps - 7/10
>>> Hiram Walker Butternips Butterscotch Schnapps 9/10

[big snip]

Thanks, both of you, for your comments. Great reading. Really.

Leo

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:37:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote:
>
>Southern Comfort IMO is horrid swill and should be poured down the drain.

don't throw away the southern comfort. save it for when you run out
of nyquil.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:22 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
>"Puester" > wrote in message
...
>> Adam Schwartz wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > Southern Comfort
>> >
>> >
>> > > What are the best ways to enjoy these beverages? What cocktails can
>be made
>> > > from them. I have limes and some frozen fruit juice I can use as
>well.
>>
>>
>> A shot of S.C. over ice in a tall glass. Add cranberry juice
>> to fill and a squirt of fresh lime juice for a Scarlet O'Hara.
>>
>> This combination makes a nice holiday punch bowl, also.
>>
>> gloria p
>
>I caressed a few Kohlers in my youth after drinking Southern Comfort. But I
>wasn't sipping either.
>
>Jack Keck
>
jack is an over-achiever, as usual.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:39:13 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> "Jack Schidt®" wrote:
>>
>> > I caressed a few Kohlers in my youth after drinking Southern Comfort.
>But I
>> > wasn't sipping either.
>>
>> Stay away from that sweet shit.
>>
>> nancy
>
>Hell ya, amiga!! I drink beer because....I forget why but it don't make me
>sick.
>
>Jack Ale
>
i mostly drink beer because i don't like diet coke.

your pal,
barbie

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:22 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Puester" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Adam Schwartz wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Southern Comfort
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > What are the best ways to enjoy these beverages? What cocktails
can
> >be made
> >> > > from them. I have limes and some frozen fruit juice I can use as
> >well.
> >>
> >>
> >> A shot of S.C. over ice in a tall glass. Add cranberry juice
> >> to fill and a squirt of fresh lime juice for a Scarlet O'Hara.
> >>
> >> This combination makes a nice holiday punch bowl, also.
> >>
> >> gloria p
> >
> >I caressed a few Kohlers in my youth after drinking Southern Comfort.
But I
> >wasn't sipping either.
> >
> >Jack Keck
> >
> jack is an over-achiever, as usual.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Aw shucks, I just have a type AA personality.

Jack W

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:37:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> > wrote:
> >
> >Southern Comfort IMO is horrid swill and should be poured down the drain.
>
> don't throw away the southern comfort. save it for when you run out
> of nyquil.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Or Sterno.

Jack Straits

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:22 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Puester" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Adam Schwartz wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Southern Comfort
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > What are the best ways to enjoy these beverages? What cocktails can
> >be made
> >> > > from them. I have limes and some frozen fruit juice I can use as
> >well.
> >>
> >>
> >> A shot of S.C. over ice in a tall glass. Add cranberry juice
> >> to fill and a squirt of fresh lime juice for a Scarlet O'Hara.
> >>
> >> This combination makes a nice holiday punch bowl, also.
> >>
> >> gloria p
> >
> >I caressed a few Kohlers in my youth after drinking Southern Comfort. But I
> >wasn't sipping either.
> >
> >Jack Keck
> >
> jack is an over-achiever, as usual.

Hey, if you're going to do something, do it right, that's what I say.

nancy

Blair P. Houghton wrote...
> The Alternative Guy > wrote:
> >> Laphroaig Single Malt Scotch 10/10
> Too peat-smoky for me. Probably the peatiest scotch I've
> ever tasted. Like drinking Eau de Campfire. 7/10

Laphroaig is scotch for me but if the peat bothers you please try Aberlour
a'bunadh. The one I have is batch no. 8. Might change your life.
Definitely for sipping, not drinking.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:35:22 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> > > wrote:
> >

> > >I caressed a few Kohlers in my youth after drinking Southern Comfort. But I
> > >wasn't sipping either.
> > >
> > >Jack Keck
> > >

>
> Hey, if you're going to do something, do it right, that's what I say.
>
> nancy



OTOH moderation seldom results in "caressing the Kohler".
Excessive consumption is for beginners.

gloria p

In article >, Jeff Bienstadt
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > Oh, I forgot to mention that the Southern Comfort is good in Blueberry
> > Jam, too. :-)
>
> And Southern Comfort is a great cold medicine :-)
>
> ---jkb

Ayup. MOF, when I feel like crap wth a head cold, I'll put about 3
fingers in a tumbler and sip on it until I go to sleep.
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> > In article >, Blair P. Houghton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>SC fits a certain taste that drinkers may have acquired
> >>in childhood in backwoods parties.
> >
> >
> > I didn't drink when I was underage! Very much. (Well, we only got
> > kicked out of one bar because I wasn't of legal drinking age -- I
> > think Rob was more embarrassed than I. He's got a few years on
> > me.) I didn't have Southern Comfort until at least my late 30s.
> > Then again, the first time I was offered Scotch I asked for
> > Seven-Up with it. Got a look and a lecture. Hmmmm, I wasn't 21
> > yet then, either.

> I still have never tried Scotch. I'm not old enough. I've only recently
> aquired a taste for gin.
>
> BTW, 18 was probably the legal drinking age when you were young.

Nope. 21 was the legal age. Then it went down to 18 for a while, I
think, then back up again.
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >, zxcvbob
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article >, Blair P. Houghton
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>SC fits a certain taste that drinkers may have acquired
>>>>in childhood in backwoods parties.
>>>
>>>
>>>I didn't drink when I was underage! Very much. (Well, we only got
>>>kicked out of one bar because I wasn't of legal drinking age -- I
>>>think Rob was more embarrassed than I. He's got a few years on
>>>me.) I didn't have Southern Comfort until at least my late 30s.
>>>Then again, the first time I was offered Scotch I asked for
>>>Seven-Up with it. Got a look and a lecture. Hmmmm, I wasn't 21
>>>yet then, either.
>
>
>>I still have never tried Scotch. I'm not old enough. I've only recently
>>aquired a taste for gin.
>>
>>BTW, 18 was probably the legal drinking age when you were young.
>
>
> Nope. 21 was the legal age. Then it went down to 18 for a while, I
> think, then back up again.


I just realized I missed a chance for a wiseass remark about Prohibition
when you was a young'un. Damn! I'm slipping.

Best regards, ;-)
Bob

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> >
> > BTW, 18 was probably the legal drinking age when you were young.
>
> Nope. 21 was the legal age. Then it went down to 18 for a while, I
> think, then back up again.

When I was a teenager growing up in the Niagara region of Southern Ontario the
drinking age here was 21, but it was 18 in NY state, so we all headed "over the
river" on weekends. While their limit was 18 we had no problem getting in to
bars at 15, and it was not uncommon to go over and find one of our regular bars
had been shut down for a few weeks for serving minors.

The drinking age in Ontario was dropped to 18 just 5 months before my 21st
birthday, and three weeks before my younger brother turned 18, which I thought
was a bum deal. Within a few months, most of the bars that had been catering
to Ontario teens went out of business. A few years later NY boosted its
drinking age to 21, so now we have a complete reversal with the kids from Y
coming over here.