Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
sexually more virile.

Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
custom kinda sick?

Hark! I heard (Kenneth Leja) say:

<snip>

Okay, third time's a charm:

*Plonk*

May I humbly suggest that others do the same?

Followups redirected...


--
j.j. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

"Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
om...
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?

Oh what a silly question.

Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?


Boar's head brand dogs are quite good, thank you! :-)
They use real casings and they are sugar free and lower in
sodium than most dogs.

I like to serve them with chile.

What is the newest product of dogfood on shelf?
Anybody knows?
"Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
om...
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?

(Kenneth Leja) wrote in message . com>...
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?

It must be moral, since Europeans have a tradition of eating dogs.
Let's recite couple dog eating in European history:

- During Lewis & Clark expedition they ate their pet dog Seaman.
- During WWII dogs and cats diappeared on the streets. Guess where
they went?

Also beating animal to death and eat them, can someone remind me the
famous French dish, bull penis stuffed with potato? Europeans (French
and Spanish in this case) believe abusing and slowly killing the bull
in a bull fight will increase the potency of the bull penis. Again, if
Europeans do this, it must be moral, right?

"charles liu" > wrote in message
m...
> (Kenneth Leja) wrote in message
. com>...
> > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > sexually more virile.
> >
> > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > custom kinda sick?
>
> It must be moral, since Europeans have a tradition of eating dogs.
> Let's recite couple dog eating in European history:
>

Many of the early Arctic excpeditions planned on using dogs for food. As
they used up their supplies and needed fewer sleds, the extra sled dogs
would be killed and fed to the remaining dogs. The people would of course
eat the dogs if needed.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message . com>...
> "charles liu" > wrote in message
> m...
> > (Kenneth Leja) wrote in message
> . com>...
> > > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > > sexually more virile.
> > >
> > > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > > custom kinda sick?
> >
> > It must be moral, since Europeans have a tradition of eating dogs.
> > Let's recite couple dog eating in European history:
> >
>
> Many of the early Arctic excpeditions planned on using dogs for food. As
> they used up their supplies and needed fewer sleds, the extra sled dogs
> would be killed and fed to the remaining dogs. The people would of course
> eat the dogs if needed.

And Antarctic, too :-)
Roald Amundsen in "South Pole" was very exited about this unique feature
of dogs that you can feed dogs to dogs and to humans.
They loved and and worshipped their dogs but did not hesitate to kill
and ate a dog when they could not use it anymore.Fascinating to read.

Nations that eat dogs consider them as livestock - not different from cow.
Different culture, that's all. In Africa they eat apes.

Nick (Chicha).

On 24 Nov 2003 07:28:36 -0800, (Chicha) wrote:
>And Antarctic, too :-)
>Roald Amundsen in "South Pole" was very exited about this unique feature
>of dogs that you can feed dogs to dogs and to humans.
>They loved and and worshipped their dogs but did not hesitate to kill
>and ate a dog when they could not use it anymore.Fascinating to read.
>
>Nations that eat dogs consider them as livestock - not different from cow.
>Different culture, that's all. In Africa they eat apes.
>
>Nick (Chicha).

In some countries, I hear they actually eat enchiladas live
--
Mike

"charles liu" > wrote in message
m...
> (Kenneth Leja) wrote in message
. com>...
> > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > sexually more virile.
> >
> > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > custom kinda sick?
>
> It must be moral, since Europeans have a tradition of eating dogs.
> Let's recite couple dog eating in European history:
>
> - During Lewis & Clark expedition they ate their pet dog Seaman.
> - During WWII dogs and cats diappeared on the streets. Guess where
> they went?


The Japanese ate them?

>
> Also beating animal to death and eat them, can someone remind me the
> famous French dish, bull penis stuffed with potato? Europeans (French
> and Spanish in this case) believe abusing and slowly killing the bull
> in a bull fight will increase the potency of the bull penis. Again, if
> Europeans do this, it must be moral, right?

"TheWanderer" > wrote in message
...
>
> "charles liu" > wrote in message
> m...
> > (Kenneth Leja) wrote in message
> . com>...
> > > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > > sexually more virile.
> > >
> > > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > > custom kinda sick?
> >
> > It must be moral, since Europeans have a tradition of eating dogs.
> > Let's recite couple dog eating in European history:
> >
> > - During Lewis & Clark expedition they ate their pet dog Seaman.
> > - During WWII dogs and cats diappeared on the streets. Guess where
> > they went?
>
>
> The Japanese ate them?

Thats a funny comment coming from a Korean. The Japanese while they seem to
eat everything
else won't touch cats and dogs. Something that parts of China and Korea can
not say.
During WWII undoubtedly everybody including Europeans ate dogs.
But the issue with dog eating today surely is because the practice continues
in peace time
when food is plentiful.

Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?

In a cultural context it's just as moral as eating any other living
thing, including humans.

Arri London wrote:
> Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
>>Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
>>dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
>>sexually more virile.
>>
>>Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
>>custom kinda sick?
>
>
> In a cultural context it's just as moral as eating any other living
> thing, including humans.

Are you telling me ; )

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Richard Periut > wrote in message >...
> Arri London wrote:
> > Kenneth Leja wrote:
> >
> >>Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> >>dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> >>sexually more virile.
> >>
> >>Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> >>custom kinda sick?
> >
> >
> > In a cultural context it's just as moral as eating any other living
> > thing, including humans.
>
> Are you telling me ; )
>
> Richard


Eating dog????? It is ok, that is there from, eating human flash, it
is known in the US. Brother Jeffry what have you done to those
senseless priest lately? Eating little boy is ok too hah? Oh
Micheal, you teach them well on a back ass moon walker.

"Kenneth Leja" > wrote in message
om...
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?


Your dumb question itself is immoral.

Kenneth Leja wrote:
>
> Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> sexually more virile.
>
> Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> custom kinda sick?

I think it's okay if you haven't named them.
You should never eat anything with a name.

Seriously, though, as much as I love dogs and
cats and wouldn't think of eating one, I don't
think it's inherently immoral, any more so than
eat a cow or deer or chicken or pig or fish, etc.
Each person can decide for herself what animals
she considers proper to eat or whether or not it's
proper to eat them at all. It's a person choice.
Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
> Kenneth Leja wrote:
> >
> > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > sexually more virile.
> >
> > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > custom kinda sick?
>
> I think it's okay if you haven't named them.
> You should never eat anything with a name.

Hey, you are finding excuses.
Would you ate pig known to you as number 48/7 :-)
Generally speaking, your suggestion is to never
eat an animal you have personal relations with?
That is not what happens in small farms.

>
> Seriously, though, as much as I love dogs and
> cats and wouldn't think of eating one, I don't
> think it's inherently immoral, any more so than
> eat a cow or deer or chicken or pig or fish, etc.
> Each person can decide for herself what animals
> she considers proper to eat or whether or not it's
> proper to eat them at all. It's a person choice.

I think cultural restrictions/acceptions of society are
not less influential at least when choosing 'what not to eat'.
One could be lynched for eating pig in Iran.

> Kate

Nick (Chicha).

Chicha wrote:
>
> Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
> > Kenneth Leja wrote:
> > >
> > > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > > sexually more virile.
> > >
> > > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > > custom kinda sick?
> >
> > I think it's okay if you haven't named them.
> > You should never eat anything with a name.
>
> Hey, you are finding excuses.
> Would you ate pig known to you as number 48/7 :-)
> Generally speaking, your suggestion is to never
> eat an animal you have personal relations with?
> That is not what happens in small farms.

Well, then, I guess that's why I'm not a farmer.
I guess I would have a problem actually *eating*
a pig with a name, but I sure couldn't kill it.

When I used to spend a lot of time on my grandfather's
family's farm they often killed a chicken for dinner.
I would have nothing to do with it - couldn't even
watch! But once it was dead I loved helping to clean
it and as a preteen I was big on science and biology
so used to do experiments while cleaning a chicken like
measuring the length of the intestines. I also would
save the heads in a jar of alcohol and then at a later
time I would dissect them. I loved dissecting eyeballs.
None of this grossed me out. And I loved eating the
chicken, but I was "chicken" to kill one.

> > Seriously, though, as much as I love dogs and
> > cats and wouldn't think of eating one, I don't
> > think it's inherently immoral, any more so than
> > eat a cow or deer or chicken or pig or fish, etc.
> > Each person can decide for herself what animals
> > she considers proper to eat or whether or not it's
> > proper to eat them at all. It's a person choice.
>
> I think cultural restrictions/acceptions of society are
> not less influential at least when choosing 'what not to eat'.
> One could be lynched for eating pig in Iran.

I realise that, but I was just talking about what
would be considered moral vs. immoral, not about what
would happened in any particular place if you ate any
particular animal. You could consider it perfect
moral to eat a pig but refrain if you were in Iran
because you knew what the dominant culture felt about
it. Or you could do it in secret. ;-)

Anyway, as far as I am concerned I still consider it
a personal choice. However if a person subscribes to
a particular religion and accepts all their tenets that's
their problem.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
> Chicha wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
> > > Kenneth Leja wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
> > > > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
> > > > sexually more virile.
> > > >
> > > > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
> > > > custom kinda sick?
> > >
> > > I think it's okay if you haven't named them.
> > > You should never eat anything with a name.
> >
> > Hey, you are finding excuses.
> > Would you ate pig known to you as number 48/7 :-)
> > Generally speaking, your suggestion is to never
> > eat an animal you have personal relations with?
> > That is not what happens in small farms.
>
> Well, then, I guess that's why I'm not a farmer.

You are lucky.
Small rural farms are known breeding grounds for immorality ;-)

> I guess I would have a problem actually *eating*
> a pig with a name, but I sure couldn't kill it.

I have a confession to make:
I took part in murder of Boris the boar back in 1983.
Nobody had guts/skills to kill the beast with a knife.
Had somebody shot him into the ear finally.
(One special thing about guns - make killing much easier to commit).
Pork was delicious, anyway.

More confessions to follow.

>
> When I used to spend a lot of time on my grandfather's
> family's farm they often killed a chicken for dinner.

Had animals names there? I bet they had.

> I would have nothing to do with it - couldn't even
> watch! But once it was dead I loved helping to clean
> it and as a preteen I was big on science and biology
> so used to do experiments while cleaning a chicken like
> measuring the length of the intestines. I also would
> save the heads in a jar of alcohol and then at a later
> time I would dissect them. I loved dissecting eyeballs.

Easy. They scan Internet for serial killers, you know.
I should google for "I loved dissecting eyeballs".

> None of this grossed me out. And I loved eating the
> chicken, but I was "chicken" to kill one.
>
> > > Seriously, though, as much as I love dogs and
> > > cats and wouldn't think of eating one, I don't
> > > think it's inherently immoral, any more so than
> > > eat a cow or deer or chicken or pig or fish, etc.
> > > Each person can decide for herself what animals
> > > she considers proper to eat or whether or not it's
> > > proper to eat them at all. It's a person choice.
> >
> > I think cultural restrictions/acceptions of society are
> > not less influential at least when choosing 'what not to eat'.
> > One could be lynched for eating pig in Iran.
>
> I realise that, but I was just talking about what
> would be considered moral vs. immoral, not about what
> would happened in any particular place if you ate any

I think "particular" is the key word for that matter.
Eating some cat suddenly becames moral during particular time
of WWII to save your child from hunger.(I am not sure about
particular cat still).
In some particular province of China most people (that means
half billion :-) ) loves dog's ribs stewed.

> particular animal. You could consider it perfect
> moral to eat a pig but refrain if you were in Iran
> because you knew what the dominant culture felt about
> it. Or you could do it in secret. ;-)

My fault,I should not choose such extreme case.
Let's not speak religion, speak cuisine.Much safer :-)

>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned I still consider it
> a personal choice. However if a person subscribes to

Yes, but within cultural bounds.
Less diversified - more bounds.
BTW, I read somewhere that cuisine is last die national
distinction. Agree? I do.
Say, when last time you were tempted by fried crickets? :-)

> a particular religion and accepts all their tenets that's
> their problem.

Inshalla.

>
> Kate

Nick (Chicha).

On 26 Nov 2003 09:47:27 -0800, (Chicha) wrote:

>Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
>> Chicha wrote:
>> >
>> > Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
>> > > Kenneth Leja wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Asian countries like China think it's okay. Koreans think beating a
>> > > > dog to death will release hormones that will make human eaters
>> > > > sexually more virile.
>> > > >
>> > > > Is this okay or is it just Western cultural bias that finds this
>> > > > custom kinda sick?
>> > >
>> > > I think it's okay if you haven't named them.
>> > > You should never eat anything with a name.
>> >
>> > Hey, you are finding excuses.
>> > Would you ate pig known to you as number 48/7 :-)
>> > Generally speaking, your suggestion is to never
>> > eat an animal you have personal relations with?
>> > That is not what happens in small farms.
>>
>> Well, then, I guess that's why I'm not a farmer.
>
>You are lucky.
>Small rural farms are known breeding grounds for immorality ;-)
>
>> I guess I would have a problem actually *eating*
>> a pig with a name, but I sure couldn't kill it.
>
>I have a confession to make:
>I took part in murder of Boris the boar back in 1983.
>Nobody had guts/skills to kill the beast with a knife.
>Had somebody shot him into the ear finally.
>(One special thing about guns - make killing much easier to commit).
>Pork was delicious, anyway.
>

Well, killing dogs for food isn't much of a crime, but torturing it
with slow death is BIG time crime. Japan history has a culture of
torture both for sport and study - from Shogun to Unit 731 - and they
include humans! Hope history does not repeat, come future wars.

Why resort to torture? It only brings out the ugly side of a people,
nothing to brag about even if it is for 'scientific research'. Unit
731 put on a stain and stigma on the Japanese, which will take several
more decades to erase. Nothing glorious for sure, whether it is for
the emperor or not.