Or i dunno

The one that makes me cringe is "Newbie"




On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:58:36 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>I think this was discussed here at some point in time, but I don't recall
>when or what was opined.
>
>Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
>(Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)
>
>Is it just an aesthetic preference for the aberration, or is it just sheer
>laziness? Typing 6 characters instead of 8 must save lots of energy and
>time! :-)
>
>"Prolly" sounds like babytalk, and is really just too "cute". I think it
>sounds idiotic coming from an adult.
>
>What do you folks think?
>
>Wayne
>
>P S - Yeah, I know...after the cheddar fiasco, I'll probably be lambasted
>for raising this question, but so what. Everyone else here does.
>
>

In article >,
(Damsel in dis Dress) wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote in message
> >...
> > I think this was discussed here at some point in time, but I don't recall
> > when or what was opined.
> >
> > Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
> > (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)
> >
> > Is it just an aesthetic preference for the aberration, or is it just sheer
> > laziness? Typing 6 characters instead of 8 must save lots of energy and
> > time! :-)
> >
> > "Prolly" sounds like babytalk, and is really just too "cute". I think it
> > sounds idiotic coming from an adult.
> >
> > What do you folks think?
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > P S - Yeah, I know...after the cheddar fiasco, I'll probably be lambasted
> > for raising this question, but so what. Everyone else here does.
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that Winnie the Pooh used that "word" in the original
> books, but don't quote me on that. It would make this usage fairly
> old. (Drives me nuts, too!)

I'm pretty sure he didn't. Weegirl is a big Winnie-the-Pooh fan, and
I'm pretty sure I've not seen it in any of the books.

> Carol, whose nickname at home is Pooh-Bear

Aw.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >,
Katra > wrote:

> Youse guys prolly take the internet WAY too seriously..... ;-D
> Sorry, but I have more important things to worry about than
> the way people spell words... and usenet typing errors!

I didn't say I was worrying about it. I said I despise it. And refuse
to use it.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >,
zxcvbob > wrote:

> Frogleg wrote:

> > I *loathe* the "well, you know what I meant" argument. We could
> > presumably satisfy basic needs by pointing and grunting. No need to know
> > the difference between 'imply' and 'infer.'
>
>
> Do you expect us to believe that you *never* point and grunt?

Bet he never scratches, either.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >,
"Danny Hardesty" > wrote:

> "Prolly" is a figure of speech known as a "syncope", a type of metaplasm
> with letters omitted in the middle of the word. For those interested check
> out a cool (I really wanted to write "kewl" but resisted ) web-site which
> categorizes many figures of speech and literary devices at
> http://humanities.byu.edu/rhetoric/silva.htm

Hey! You're posting facts rather than opinion, conjecture and
defamation! Stop it, stop it at once!

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure that Winnie the Pooh used that "word" in the original
>> books, but don't quote me on that. It would make this usage fairly
>> old. (Drives me nuts, too!)
>
> Yeah, I was thinking it was a British import.
>
> nancy
>

Winnie the Pooh was originally from Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada. The Bear was
a gift to the London Zoo.

--
And the beet goes on! (or under)
-me just a while ago

hahabogus wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in

> > Yeah, I was thinking it was a British import.

> Winnie the Pooh was originally from Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada. The Bear was
> a gift to the London Zoo.

Regardless, I still think prolly is a British thing to say.

nancy

I've never seen the "prolly" discussion before, but I have seen the "all
caps" discussion and the "no caps" discussion and the "uses ... instead
of periods and commas" discussion and the "mispells everything"
discussion the "your/you're, there/their/they're, who's/whose and
it's/its" discussion and a dozen others like it. They all go roughly
like this:

1. Original poster posts peeve about some manner of posting that drives
him/her nuts.

2. Other posters chime in about how much that bothers them too.

3. Discussion broadens out to include other peeves.

4. Plea is made for people to make their messages more easily
understood/read.

5. Poster for the dissent says that s/he speaks English as a second
language and is being made to feel uncomfortable about
typing/grammar/spelling skills. (Or sometimes time constraints or
arthritis are given as reasons for typing the way one does.)

6. Original poster says that while some excuses for obnoxious
communications are acceptable, other messages are simply too hard to be
bothered with. Repeat offenders are killfiled.

7. Errors are found in the messages written by those who purport to
support good spelling and good grammar. Those people are now dubbed
pompous.

8. All hell breaks loose with accusations flying. "If you want me to
read your messages, write them so I can read them." "Don't be so mean
to poor arthritic poster who's typing the best she can." "Pompous!"
"Asshole!"

9. If there's a moderator, the moderator gets on to tell everyone to
cut it out. If not, accusations continue for a while until all get bored.

I've found that I can even cut to the chase by admitting that I killfile
people who post in a way I always find difficult to read without naming
the specific habits that are too much trouble to bother with.

--Lia

"Julia Altshuler" wrote in message

> I've never seen the "prolly" discussion before, but I have seen the "all
> caps" discussion and the "no caps" discussion and the "uses ... instead
> of periods and commas" discussion and the "mispells everything"
> discussion the "your/you're, there/their/they're, who's/whose and
> it's/its" discussion and a dozen others like it. They all go roughly
> like this:
>
> 1. Original poster posts peeve about some manner of posting that drives
> him/her nuts.
>
> 2. Other posters chime in about how much that bothers them too.
>
> 3. Discussion broadens out to include other peeves.
>
> 4. Plea is made for people to make their messages more easily
> understood/read.
>
> 5. Poster for the dissent says that s/he speaks English as a second
> language and is being made to feel uncomfortable about
> typing/grammar/spelling skills. (Or sometimes time constraints or
> arthritis are given as reasons for typing the way one does.)
>
> 6. Original poster says that while some excuses for obnoxious
> communications are acceptable, other messages are simply too hard to be
> bothered with. Repeat offenders are killfiled.
>
> 7. Errors are found in the messages written by those who purport to
> support good spelling and good grammar. Those people are now dubbed
> pompous.
>
> 8. All hell breaks loose with accusations flying. "If you want me to
> read your messages, write them so I can read them." "Don't be so mean
> to poor arthritic poster who's typing the best she can." "Pompous!"
> "Asshole!"
>
> 9. If there's a moderator, the moderator gets on to tell everyone to
> cut it out. If not, accusations continue for a while until all get bored.
>
> I've found that I can even cut to the chase by admitting that I killfile
> people who post in a way I always find difficult to read without naming
> the specific habits that are too much trouble to bother with.
>
> --Lia

I fell off my chair laughing when I read this - it's
so true. Thanks, Lia!

Dora>

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> hahabogus wrote:
> >
> > Nancy Young > wrote in
>
> > > Yeah, I was thinking it was a British import.
>
> > Winnie the Pooh was originally from Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada. The Bear
was
> > a gift to the London Zoo.
>
> Regardless, I still think prolly is a British thing to say.
>
> nancy

Hmmm - are you thinking of brolly? (Translation: umbrella).

Dora

Julia Altshuler writes:

>I've found that I can even cut to the chase by admitting that I killfile
>people who post in a way I always find difficult to read

Why do you lack the inner strength (fortitude) to simply refrian from
continuing to read something past the point where you find you would rather not
read further, are you afflicted with an obsessive-compulsive disorder or are
you a wuss?


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````````````
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Julia Altshuler > wrote in
news:wZQxb.248145$9E1.1337446@attbi_s52:

> I've never seen the "prolly" discussion before, but I have seen the
> "all caps" discussion and the "no caps" discussion and the "uses ...
> instead of periods and commas" discussion and the "mispells
> everything" discussion the "your/you're, there/their/they're,
> who's/whose and it's/its" discussion and a dozen others like it. They
> all go roughly like this:
>
> 1. Original poster posts peeve about some manner of posting that
> drives him/her nuts.
>
> 2. Other posters chime in about how much that bothers them too.
>
> 3. Discussion broadens out to include other peeves.
>
> 4. Plea is made for people to make their messages more easily
> understood/read.
>
> 5. Poster for the dissent says that s/he speaks English as a second
> language and is being made to feel uncomfortable about
> typing/grammar/spelling skills. (Or sometimes time constraints or
> arthritis are given as reasons for typing the way one does.)
>
> 6. Original poster says that while some excuses for obnoxious
> communications are acceptable, other messages are simply too hard to
> be bothered with. Repeat offenders are killfiled.
>
> 7. Errors are found in the messages written by those who purport to
> support good spelling and good grammar. Those people are now dubbed
> pompous.
>
> 8. All hell breaks loose with accusations flying. "If you want me to
> read your messages, write them so I can read them." "Don't be so mean
> to poor arthritic poster who's typing the best she can." "Pompous!"
> "Asshole!"
>
> 9. If there's a moderator, the moderator gets on to tell everyone to
> cut it out. If not, accusations continue for a while until all get
> bored.
>
> I've found that I can even cut to the chase by admitting that I
> killfile people who post in a way I always find difficult to read
> without naming the specific habits that are too much trouble to bother
> with.
>
> --Lia
>

As the OP of this thread, I have to say that I had a great laugh reading
your post. Reading the thread itself is almost as bad as wading through
the "prollys" and "kewls"! Thanks for brightening and lightening it all.

Wayne

That's two of you found it amusing and liked it. Thanks for the note of
support. The funny thing is that I wasn't trying to be funny when I
wrote it. I figured someone would be mad at me for admitting that I
sometimes killfile people for their writing style as opposed to the
content of their posts.

(There's also the "too many abbreviations" discussion and the "doesn't
trim previous discussion" discussion and the "top posts/bottom posts"
discussion and the "too/two/to" discussion and the "apostrophes in
plurals discussion" which is quickly followed by the "no apostrophes in
contractions" discussion ...)

--Lia


Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> As the OP of this thread, I have to say that I had a great laugh reading
> your post. Reading the thread itself is almost as bad as wading through
> the "prollys" and "kewls"! Thanks for brightening and lightening it all.

PENMART01 wrote:
> DuhWayne BoatNewbie writes:
>>
>> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
>>
>> "Prolly" sounds like babytalk, and is really just too "cute". I
>> think it sounds idiotic coming from an adult.
>>
>> What do you folks think?
>
> I think you're a newbie... in fact I *know* you're a newbie... and
> from reading this thread you are FAR from alone.
>
> "prolly" is net-speak tantamount to emoticons; sometimes a response
> to indicate someone asked a silly question but much more often used
> when one is conveying a point/opinion in cyber conversation that is
> meant in a light hearted/jocular manner, is not to be taken
> seriously... *means the subject is moot, let's move on*... is not
> something worth wasting keystrokes arguing, and certainly not a
> difference of opinion that is worth the risk of trashing an otherwise
> valuable cyber relationship... an example of terminology that evolved
> so that folks can embue the feeling of a personal hand written letter
> to the typed business letter format of computers.
>
> Yes, you are definitely a NEWBIE.. no prolly about it... you probably
> use correct anatomical terms in the bedroom too, not that it matters
> much since there's only you.
>
Are we to assume that you use only incorrect anatomical terms when you bop
on down to the trailer park youse got stashed in your barn?
Ken.

PENMART01 wrote:
> John Gaughan writes:
>
>> I an an anal-retentive pedantic when it comes to spelling and
>> grammar.
>
> Duh!
>
> Anal... actually you're just the hole.
>
Careful Shel' You are close to self expression here.
Ken.

PENMART01 wrote:
> Julia Altshuler writes:
>
>> I've found that I can even cut to the chase by admitting that I
>> killfile people who post in a way I always find difficult to read
>
> Why do you lack the inner strength (fortitude) to simply refrian from
> continuing to read something past the point where you find you would
> rather not read further, are you afflicted with an obsessive-
> compulsive disorder or are you a wuss?
>
Jeez - calling the kettle black or what?!!

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> That's two of you found it amusing and liked it. Thanks for the note of
> support. The funny thing is that I wasn't trying to be funny when I
> wrote it. I figured someone would be mad at me for admitting that I
> sometimes killfile people for their writing style as opposed to the
> content of their posts.

but there's nothing wrong with the "..." thingie... It's a habit carried
over from AIM that I can't seem (nor want) to break... and
<dot><dot><dot> is much faster to type than <dot><space><space> IMO...
plus you get the added benefit of hiding poor punctuation skilz...

ok sorry 'bout that one... SKILLS...

~john!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> I think this was discussed here at some point in time, but I don't recall
> when or what was opined.
>
> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
> (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)


Nah... "prolly" is easy to type... plus it *doesn't* sound cute like
"wuzzup" or the almost unbearable replacement of "are" with "r" and
"you" with "u"... that gets under my skin...

AND THOSE THAT TYPE IN ALL CAPS NEED TO BE SHOT... WITH A BB GUN... IN
THE EYE...

~john!

Nancy Young wrote:

> Regardless, I still think prolly is a British thing to say.


yeah, you're prolly right...

~john!


<groan> I know...

levelwave > wrote in
:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> I think this was discussed here at some point in time, but I don't
>> recall when or what was opined.
>>
>> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
>> (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)
>
>
> Nah... "prolly" is easy to type... plus it *doesn't* sound cute like
> "wuzzup" or the almost unbearable replacement of "are" with "r" and
> "you" with "u"... that gets under my skin...

That's your opinion, John, and it's not universal.

>
> AND THOSE THAT TYPE IN ALL CAPS NEED TO BE SHOT... WITH A BB GUN... IN
> THE EYE...

Agreed.

> ~john!
>
>
>

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> That's your opinion, John, and it's not universal.

Yes... You asked for our opinions...

That's like asking someone how they feel about cheese... and they say
"well I like it" and you say "well that only your opinion"... Duh!


~john!

Miche wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Katra > wrote:
>
> > Youse guys prolly take the internet WAY too seriously..... ;-D
> > Sorry, but I have more important things to worry about than
> > the way people spell words... and usenet typing errors!
>
> I didn't say I was worrying about it. I said I despise it. And refuse
> to use it.
>
> Miche
>
> --


Please please don't take that personally or seriously! :-)

The reason that I find internet "spelling" issues humorous is that, like
emoticons, it takes the place of face-to-face contact.

It's the only way we can share our personalities other than using the
delightfully dry humor that I find on this list... It's a substitute for
body language I think.

I've learned to appreciate them rather than letting them get to me. I
used to hate them too!

I still hate billboard signs that don't spell right. I think it is bad
for our kids spelling skills!

K.
--
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all owned by cats" -- Asimov

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On 2003-11-28, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> John Gaughan > wrote in news:vsf3hn9u38lg78
> @corp.supernews.com:
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
>>
>> I an an anal-retentive pedantic when it comes to spelling and grammar.
>> This is not saying that I am perfect, just that I try my hardest to be
>> correct. So, in a word, the answer to your question is "no."
>>
>
> John, I've noticed your well-written posts and have enjoyed them.

I suppose both of you expected no one would catch the "an an" screwup.
Fat chance!

nb

On 2003-11-28, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
> (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)

It's a cutsie yuppie thing that makes me wanna puke cuz ppl saying
things like "prolly" and "sammiches" think it's kewl, BIF, it's lame
and uncool and sux. OTOH, YMMV, IYKWIM.

nb

levelwave > wrote in news:bq9e5u$204d97$1@ID-
199095.news.uni-berlin.de:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> That's your opinion, John, and it's not universal.
>
> Yes... You asked for our opinions...
>
> That's like asking someone how they feel about cheese... and they say
> "well I like it" and you say "well that only your opinion"... Duh!
>
>
> ~john!
>
>

Duh, hell. Yes, I asked for your opinion and I recognize it as such. Your
post also sounded as though you assumed everyone else felt the same. They
do not.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:15:38 -0600, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Frogleg wrote:
>
>> I *loathe* the "well, you know what I meant" argument. We could
>> presumably satisfy basic needs by pointing and grunting.
>
>Do you expect us to believe that you *never* point and grunt?

Believe what you want. :-) My problem is often too many words, not
any lack of them.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:22:56 GMT, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>That's two of you found it amusing and liked it. Thanks for the note of
>support. The funny thing is that I wasn't trying to be funny when I
>wrote it. I figured someone would be mad at me for admitting that I
>sometimes killfile people for their writing style as opposed to the
>content of their posts.
>
>(There's also the "too many abbreviations" discussion and the "doesn't
>trim previous discussion" discussion and the "top posts/bottom posts"
>discussion and the "too/two/to" discussion and the "apostrophes in
>plurals discussion" which is quickly followed by the "no apostrophes in
>contractions" discussion ...)

Yeah, but... As the length of the thread (so far) shows, some rambling
discussions are of interest to many. It's therapy. :-) Why do (many)
people like Andy Rooney's commentaries? Many of his pieces present
gripes *we* have, and so we watch and mutter, "right. And what about
X, too?"

As for repetition, since the day the first internet cooking newsgroup
was formed, the subject of chilli/chile has resulted in the same
virtually endless thread of recipes, arguments about ingredients, etc.
Surely everything that *can* be said *has* been said. But it goes on.
And on. And enough people are interested to keep it going.

dogsnus > wrote in
:

> Frogleg > wrote in
> :
>
>> On 28 Nov 2003 15:00:12 GMT, dogsnus > wrote:
>>
>>>Wayne Boatwright > wrote
>>
>>>> Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type
>>>> it?
>>
>>>I never say it, and can't remember every typing it.
>>>But I have no problem parsing it and have been known to deliberately
>>>type a word mispelt for humor.
>>>ie: I donut geddit
>>>
>>>Me? I just don't care overly much as long as I can get the general
>>>idea of what they're trying to convey.
>>
>> I *loathe* the "well, you know what I meant" argument. We could
>> presumably satisfy basic needs by pointing and grunting.
>
> Perhaps.
> But I've found on this medium that the ability to spell and type
> well aren't necessarily indications of intelligence.
> Or even an indicator of knowledge.
> Conversely, someone who writes well isn't always worth reading
> either.
> If I demanded perfect grammar and spelling only, while listening
> or reading; and refuse to give consideration to viewpoint of someone
> who doesn't meet those expectations, I feel that I am the loser.
> Not the speaker/writer/poster.
>
> One of the most influentual people in my life was a woman
> who didn't receive any formal eduation past the sixth grade.
> She quit and stayed home to help take care of the family.
> She could barely read and certainly couldn't spell very well.

Terri,

As the OP, I was not referring to those among us who may lack education
and write and speak poorly as a result. I would certainly make an effort
to understand what they are trying to convey and would not be critical.

I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some posters
seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell correctly. It's
very easy to tell the difference.

Wayne

>From: Wayne Boatwright

>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some posters
>seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell correctly. It's
>very easy to tell the difference.

Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?

Ellen

(SportKite1) writes:

>>From: Wayne BoatBubba
>
>>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some posters
>>seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell correctly. It's
>>very easy to tell the difference.
>
>Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?

Anyone with the redneck name "Wayne"... Duh'Wayne BoatBubba!


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````````````
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(SportKite1) wrote in news:20031129174245.00881.00001353
@mb-m28.aol.com:

>>From: Wayne Boatwright
>
>>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some posters
>>seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell correctly. It's
>>very easy to tell the difference.
>
> Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?
>
> Ellen
>
>

They belong in the idiotic category anyway.

Wayne

(PENMART01) wrote in
:

> (SportKite1) writes:
>
>>>From: Wayne BoatBubba
>>
>>>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some
>>>posters seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell
>>>correctly. It's very easy to tell the difference.
>>
>>Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?
>
> Anyone with the redneck name "Wayne"... Duh'Wayne BoatBubba!

God, never an original thought in that "pea-brain" of yours! Drone one,
Shellie-Bean, drone one. Those hot air balloon clubs are just waiting
for you.

If you didn't self-perpetuate yourself, God knows nobody else would.

Wayne

>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>

Duh'Wayne BoatBubba writes:

>(PENMART01) wrote:
>> (SportKite1) writes:
>>>>Duh'Wayne BoatBubba perpetuates
>>>
>>>>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some
>>>>posters seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell
>>>>correctly. It's very easy to tell the difference.
>>>
>>>Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?
>>
>> Anyone with the redneck name "Wayne"... Duh'Wayne BoatBubba!
>
>If you didn't self-perpetuate yourself, God knows nobody else would.

Um, you just did...


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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````````````
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(PENMART01) wrote in
:

> Duh'Wayne BoatBubba writes:
>
>>(PENMART01) wrote:
>>> (SportKite1) writes:
>>>>>Duh'Wayne BoatBubba perpetuates
>>>>
>>>>>I was referring specifically to the idiotic non-words that some
>>>>>posters seem either to find "cute" or are just to lazy to spell
>>>>>correctly. It's very easy to tell the difference.
>>>>
>>>>Really? Hmmmm...and how do you tell when a poster is a suck up?
>>>
>>> Anyone with the redneck name "Wayne"... Duh'Wayne BoatBubba!
>>
>>If you didn't self-perpetuate yourself, God knows nobody else would.
>
> Um, you just did...

Uh, no, just your reputation for being a complete and perfect asshole,
the only perfection you'll ever see.

>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>

"notbob" > wrote in message
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> On 2003-11-28, Wayne Boatwright >
wrote:
>
> > Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
> > (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)
>
> It's a cutsie yuppie thing that makes me wanna puke cuz ppl saying
> things like "prolly" and "sammiches" think it's kewl, BIF, it's lame
> and uncool and sux. OTOH, YMMV, IYKWIM.
>
> nb

That's not as bad as starting a post with "So...", IMO.

Dave

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2003-11-28, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone actually verbalize the "word" *prolly*, or just type it?
> > (Sounds like rolling marbles in the mouth, ala Buddy Hackett.)
>
> It's a cutsie yuppie thing that makes me wanna puke cuz ppl saying
> things like "prolly" and "sammiches" think it's kewl, BIF, it's lame
> and uncool and sux. OTOH, YMMV, IYKWIM.

It's not even remotely yuppie. You meant to say GenX.

nancy

On 29 Nov 2003 14:35:57 GMT, dogsnus > wrote:

>But I've found on this medium that the ability to spell and type
>well aren't necessarily indications of intelligence.
>Or even an indicator of knowledge.

"Prolly" isn't either mis-typing or misspelling. Wayne's original
question was quite clear. That is, does anyone actually *say*
"prolly", or is it a shorthand or 'cute' netword?

An attempt at correct punctuation, spelling, and grammar isn't exactly
an indication of intelligence, or a measure of personal worth, nor did
anyone say it was.

It *is*, however, a way to promote clarity, and IMHO, something like
taking the trouble to brush your teeth, shower, and comb your hair,
before you present yourself to the world. We all know what "gimme
chiken recips" *means*, but we can't help but form some impression of
the poster. In fact, you mention noticing certain (mis)pronunciations
of your step-grandmother. (Which appear to be more in the line of
regional dialect, BTW. *My* grandmother grew up in Brooklyn, and spoke
of "warshing" and cooking with "erl". She spelled both the usual way.)

Uneducated doesn't mean stupid or worthless. Refusing to pay attention
to education indicates, um, laziness?

OT on an OT subject:

Winne-the(r)-Pooh didn't say "prolly." The language, 'though simple
and conversational, is grammatically correct.

http://www.machaon.ru/pooh/contents.html

I believe there's also something of a power play involved. Imagine 2
friends/acquaintances trying to get together. One says (in effect) "if
you want to see me, you drive all the way over here; you bring the food;
you put in the effort; if I feel like it, I'll answer the door, but I
might be in my pajamas, and I'm not going out of my way to entertain
you." The other says the same thing. Now that could be a matter of
laziness, but I think there's some one-upping going on. It is a way of
saying "my time and effort are more important than yours." "I'm the
princess; you're the pea."

Thus with usenet (or any communication). In a perfect scenario, the
typer would make an effort to communicate effectively and clearly. The
reader would make a reasonable effort to figure out what the typer meant
and answer appropriately. But sometimes that's not what happens. The
typer puts forth the equivalent effort to the host who won't drive to
see his friend. He says "I'm going to use all lower case. I won't
punctuate; I'll use ellipses or tildes between my phrases instead. I'll
mispell my words. That saves me time. If you want to figure out what
the hell I'm talking about, you put in the time and effort, but I'm not
going out of my way to make it easy for you." That's not laziness.
That's a play for power.

(I quietly killfile anyone I don't think puts forth a reasonable effort.
I have no objection if someone quietly killfiles me.)

--Lia


Frogleg wrote:


> Uneducated doesn't mean stupid or worthless. Refusing to pay attention
> to education indicates, um, laziness?

On 2003-11-30, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
> It's not even remotely yuppie. You meant to say GenX.

Yeah, it is, and no, I didn't.

nb