I'm goiong to New York to hang out with Margaret for a few days. She's
having another brunch to celebrate the event (black crepe?) and has
asked me to extend an invitation to anyone who would like to attend.
Why she doesn't do this herself (it's her party!) I do not know.
Actually she thinks she has to do this to stay on my good side so I'll
continue to regale her with tender stories and cute stories about The
Blue Ribbon Granddaughter. She can't fool me. She's already told me
she's nice to Rob so that in case she gets stinking with me (her phrase,
not mine) he will continue to send pictures of the kid to her.

She lives in the Swanky Upper East Side and would like to hear from you
(if we have not already) if you would like to come.

Goomba, where the heck are you!?

If you're one of those folks who needs to know who'll be there before
you decide, here's the list, in no particular order:
Jack Schidt
Sheryl Rosen
Boron Elgar and spouse
Christine Dabney
Terry Pulliam Burd, spouse; Terry's daughter-unit and d-u's SO
Sue Ford
Diane Feder and spouse
Rodney Myrvaagnes and spouse
Margaret and her Long Suffering Friend and Bartender, Marcel Of The
Potent Bloody Marys
Me

Stan got a better offer. :-) Victor's ignoring us. Sheldon's got
other plans. Harry and Sam just got back from Seattle with Zelt.
Michael was going to come but he got sidetracked. Next year, though. .
.. . .

It's not too late to sign up. Let Margaret know or else email me at
barbschaller at earthlink dot net
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

in article , Melba's
Jammin' at wrote on 11/30/03 4:50 PM:

> I'm goiong to New York to hang out with Margaret for a few days. She's
> having another brunch to celebrate the event (black crepe?) and has
> asked me to extend an invitation to anyone who would like to attend.
> Why she doesn't do this herself (it's her party!) I do not know.
> Actually she thinks she has to do this to stay on my good side so I'll
> continue to regale her with tender stories and cute stories about The
> Blue Ribbon Granddaughter. She can't fool me. She's already told me
> she's nice to Rob so that in case she gets stinking with me (her phrase,
> not mine) he will continue to send pictures of the kid to her.
>
> She lives in the Swanky Upper East Side and would like to hear from you
> (if we have not already) if you would like to come.
>
> Goomba, where the heck are you!?
>
> If you're one of those folks who needs to know who'll be there before
> you decide, here's the list, in no particular order:
> Jack Schidt
> Sheryl Rosen
> Boron Elgar and spouse
> Christine Dabney
> Terry Pulliam Burd, spouse; Terry's daughter-unit and d-u's SO
> Sue Ford
> Diane Feder and spouse
> Rodney Myrvaagnes and spouse
> Margaret and her Long Suffering Friend and Bartender, Marcel Of The
> Potent Bloody Marys
> Me
>
> Stan got a better offer. :-) Victor's ignoring us. Sheldon's got
> other plans. Harry and Sam just got back from Seattle with Zelt.
> Michael was going to come but he got sidetracked. Next year, though. .
> . . .
>
> It's not too late to sign up. Let Margaret know or else email me at
> barbschaller at earthlink dot net

We Nutmeggers are making plans for the invasion.
Mr Schidt is arriving solo, but the Feders and I are traveling together.
Am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones.
It's been a long, awful, stressful year for me and this event is the first
of the end-of-a-lousy-year festivities. (and that's a good thing, no matter
how it came out!) I'm trying to end the year a month early by celebrating
every weekend with friends. This is the first. Got plans for each subsequent
Saturday and/or Sunday. Out with the old, in with the new!

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:34:40 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
> wrote:


>We Nutmeggers are making plans for the invasion.
>Mr Schidt is arriving solo, but the Feders and I are traveling together.
>Am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones.
>It's been a long, awful, stressful year for me and this event is the first
>of the end-of-a-lousy-year festivities. (and that's a good thing, no matter
>how it came out!) I'm trying to end the year a month early by celebrating
>every weekend with friends. This is the first. Got plans for each subsequent
>Saturday and/or Sunday. Out with the old, in with the new!
>

I still want to know if anyone wants to go out to dinnner..either
Friday or Saturday night.

How far is it from the LaGuardia airport area to the Penzeys in
Connecticut? I am thinking that maybe I could/should try to squeeze in
a trip, if I can get up that way early enough on Friday, and if the
distance isn't too bad, or the drive too horendous.

Christine

why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?

OhJeeez wrote:

> why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?

Why not? It's an open forum for people to use in any way they see fit.
I don't even understand why you'd ask.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

OhJeeez wrote:
>
> why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?

What is personal/private about extending an invitation to all rfc
readers/posters who want to attend a brunch in honor of Barb
Schaller/Melba Jammin?

This latest post is only a reminder, in case someone was away from the
news group for several weeks and didn't see the original posts about it.

Margaret Suran wrote:
>
> OhJeeez wrote:
> >
> > why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?
>
> What is personal/private about extending an invitation to all rfc
> readers/posters who want to attend a brunch in honor of Barb
> Schaller/Melba Jammin?
>
> This latest post is only a reminder, in case someone was away from the
> news group for several weeks and didn't see the original posts about it.

Let's hope ohjeez doesn't decide to show up. What a boor.

nancy

Hark! I heard (OhJeeez) say:

> why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?

Hard to tell, you didn't quote anything...


--
j.j. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~
...fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!

no problem 'suffering' criticism for asking why personal/local plans are played
in international formats - no ill-intent intended. still, meet-ups, in this
venue, seem 'excluding.' and local as i may be, no cause for concern, i won't
be there... but who knows what the cat may drag in

OhJeeez wrote:
>
> no problem 'suffering' criticism for asking why personal/local plans are played
> in international formats - no ill-intent intended. still, meet-ups, in this
> venue, seem 'excluding.' and local as i may be, no cause for concern, i won't
> be there... but who knows what the cat may drag in

How long have you been with rfc? Unless you are a recent subscriber to
the news group, you have to know that every year several cook ins are
being held. Everybody who wants to attend is welcome by the hosts.
Since not everybody can come, for many reasons, does that make the rfc
cook ins excluding too?

in article , Christine Dabney at
wrote on 12/1/03 3:18 PM:

> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:34:40 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
> > wrote:
>
>
>> We Nutmeggers are making plans for the invasion.
>> Mr Schidt is arriving solo, but the Feders and I are traveling together.
>> Am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones.
>> It's been a long, awful, stressful year for me and this event is the first
>> of the end-of-a-lousy-year festivities. (and that's a good thing, no matter
>> how it came out!) I'm trying to end the year a month early by celebrating
>> every weekend with friends. This is the first. Got plans for each subsequent
>> Saturday and/or Sunday. Out with the old, in with the new!
>>
>
> I still want to know if anyone wants to go out to dinnner..either
> Friday or Saturday night.
>
> How far is it from the LaGuardia airport area to the Penzeys in
> Connecticut? I am thinking that maybe I could/should try to squeeze in
> a trip, if I can get up that way early enough on Friday, and if the
> distance isn't too bad, or the drive too horendous.
>
> Christine

Will you have a car? It's about an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on the
traffic.

Take the Grand Central Eastbound towards the WHITESTONE Bridge. Take the
Whitestone Bridge and follow the signs for I-95 NORTHBOUND, aka the New
England Thruway. Stay on I-95 until you hit Connecticut. Take Exit 16 once
in Connecticut, about 20 minutes from the state line.

At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to Route
1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport Avenue).
Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past Stew
Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
street, make a left and that's the parking lot.

It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.

in article , Nancy Young at
wrote on 12/1/03 5:05 PM:

> Margaret Suran wrote:
>>
>> OhJeeez wrote:
>>>
>>> why is so personal/private an agenda played out here?
>>
>> What is personal/private about extending an invitation to all rfc
>> readers/posters who want to attend a brunch in honor of Barb
>> Schaller/Melba Jammin?
>>
>> This latest post is only a reminder, in case someone was away from the
>> news group for several weeks and didn't see the original posts about it.
>
> Let's hope ohjeez doesn't decide to show up. What a boor.
>
> nancy

"Let's"?
As in, "let US"?
As in, you're part of the group that will be attending the brunch???
Are ya? are Ya? Are ya?
Pleeeeeeeeeeese!!!????

<giggle>

Christine Dabney > wrote:

> I still want to know if anyone wants to go out to dinnner..either
> Friday or Saturday night.

> How far is it from the LaGuardia airport area to the Penzeys in
> Connecticut? I am thinking that maybe I could/should try to squeeze in
> a trip, if I can get up that way early enough on Friday, and if the
> distance isn't too bad, or the drive too horendous.

Sheryl probably knows better than I, but I estimate that NYC is about the 2/3 the way to where
the CT Pennzey's store is and Washington. As such, visiting the CT Penzy's is not something
you'll have time to do on Saturday and attend Margaret's brunch, but you can buy from Penzey's
online via http://www.penzeys.com or if you want to venture up to CT on Sunday, ask Sheryl
about Stu Leonard's, but Penzy's is closed on Sundays!

Sheryl Rosen > wrote:
> At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
> Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to Route
> 1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
> Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport Avenue).
> Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
> you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past Stew
> Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
> lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
> light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
> street, make a left and that's the parking lot.

> It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.

Be advised though the the traffic between CT and NYC can be very heavy, even
on a Saturday afternoon. Sorry to my r.f.c friends who live in CT, but my
impression after having driving through CT more times than I can remember is
that it is a parking lot between the hours of 00:01am and 11:59pm on all the
major highways that travel between any two different points!

On 2 Dec 2003 03:00:28 GMT, wrote:


>Sheryl probably knows better than I, but I estimate that NYC is about the 2/3 the way to where
>the CT Pennzey's store is and Washington. As such, visiting the CT Penzy's is not something
>you'll have time to do on Saturday and attend Margaret's brunch, but you can buy from Penzey's
>online via http://www.penzeys.com or if you want to venture up to CT on Sunday, ask Sheryl
>about Stu Leonard's, but Penzy's is closed on Sundays!

Actually, I was thinking of doing this on Friday. I am driving up
that way earlier on Friday, and will stay near LaGuardia airport.
After researching stuff, and getting advice here, I am going to take
Sheldon's and the advice of some others, and take a cab on Saturday.

I was thinking that if I could get to the area early enough on Friday,
it would be worth it to get to Penzeys, at least worth it in my mind.

Hmm...Stu Leonards.....

Christine

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:50:12 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
>Will you have a car? It's about an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on the
>traffic.
>
>Take the Grand Central Eastbound towards the WHITESTONE Bridge. Take the
>Whitestone Bridge and follow the signs for I-95 NORTHBOUND, aka the New
>England Thruway. Stay on I-95 until you hit Connecticut. Take Exit 16 once
>in Connecticut, about 20 minutes from the state line.
>
>At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
>Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to Route
>1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
>Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport Avenue).
>Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
>you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past Stew
>Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
>lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
>light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
>street, make a left and that's the parking lot.
>
>It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.

Okay, I will have a car.

Now I just have to make myself get up early enough on Friday to make
it up there so I can get to Penzeys that day.

Thanks for the directions!

Christine

in article , at
wrote on 12/1/03 10:04 PM:

> Sheryl Rosen > wrote:
>> At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
>> Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to Route
>> 1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
>> Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport Avenue).
>> Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
>> you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past Stew
>> Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
>> lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
>> light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
>> street, make a left and that's the parking lot.
>
>> It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.
>
> Be advised though the the traffic between CT and NYC can be very heavy, even
> on a Saturday afternoon. Sorry to my r.f.c friends who live in CT, but my
> impression after having driving through CT more times than I can remember is
> that it is a parking lot between the hours of 00:01am and 11:59pm on all the
> major highways that travel between any two different points!

There is no doubt the traffic is awful here. No offense taken.
However, I think Christine is talking about friday afternoon. If she leaves
NY around 11am, she'll have little or no problems. It's not a parking lot
24/7, as you imply. There are times when it moves.

My advice is stay off the roads between 6am and 10am. And 4pm and 7pm,
Monday thru Friday, as those are prime rush hours. Overnights, you have
construction to deal with, which causes delays, also. And heaven help us if
there is an accident. That's what gummed up the works last August for the
cook-in.

On 01 Dec 2003 23:54:05 GMT, (OhJeeez)
wrote:

> no problem 'suffering' criticism for asking why personal/local plans are played
> in international formats - no ill-intent intended. still, meet-ups, in this
> venue, seem 'excluding.' and local as i may be, no cause for concern, i won't
> be there... but who knows what the cat may drag in

Please don't pretend this occasion is exclusionary. There
was an open invitation for everyone who was ever so slightly
inclined to attend. If you're in the area, all you need to
do is contact Margaret and let her know you're interested.
Get directions and GO! You'll be glad you did.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:27:42 GMT, sf > wrote:


>Please don't pretend this occasion is exclusionary. There
>was an open invitation for everyone who was ever so slightly
>inclined to attend. If you're in the area, all you need to
>do is contact Margaret and let her know you're interested.
>Get directions and GO! You'll be glad you did.
>

Yes. I count myself fortunate that I am on the east coast for the
winter. I am driving up to the NYC area for this: who knows when I
will be this close again! I am looking forward to meeting some rfc
legends (hi Barb and Margaret and Sheryl!), and making some new
friends from people I have only known from this newsgroup all these
years.

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:27:42 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
>
> >Please don't pretend this occasion is exclusionary. There
> >was an open invitation for everyone who was ever so slightly
> >inclined to attend. If you're in the area, all you need to
> >do is contact Margaret and let her know you're interested.
> >Get directions and GO! You'll be glad you did.
> >
>
> Yes. I count myself fortunate that I am on the east coast for the
> winter. I am driving up to the NYC area for this: who knows when I
> will be this close again! I am looking forward to meeting some rfc
> legends (hi Barb and Margaret and Sheryl!), and making some new
> friends from people I have only known from this newsgroup all these
> years.
>
> Christine

You will rue the day that you felt fortunate to be on the east coast for
winter ;-O

Jack Frost

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:50:12 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
> >Will you have a car? It's about an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on
the
> >traffic.
> >
> >Take the Grand Central Eastbound towards the WHITESTONE Bridge. Take the
> >Whitestone Bridge and follow the signs for I-95 NORTHBOUND, aka the New
> >England Thruway. Stay on I-95 until you hit Connecticut. Take Exit 16
once
> >in Connecticut, about 20 minutes from the state line.
> >
> >At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
> >Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to
Route
> >1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
> >Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport
Avenue).
> >Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
> >you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past
Stew
> >Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
> >lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
> >light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
> >street, make a left and that's the parking lot.
> >
> >It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.
>
> Okay, I will have a car.
>
> Now I just have to make myself get up early enough on Friday to make
> it up there so I can get to Penzeys that day.
>
> Thanks for the directions!
>
> Christine

Not to be contentious, but you'd do yourself a big favor by skipping
Penzeys'. After fighting the traffic, you'll be nonplussed, especially if
you've been through their catalog and ordered their spices already. That
part of CT is a parking lot, bottlenecked by frequent construction and
overwhelming volume of cars and trucks.

Jack Nervewracking

PS I saw your later post about attempting this on Friday. That's the worst
day to make said trip as the traffic arteries are clogged not only by daily
commuters but by NY weekenders making a trek up to CT. The window of
traffic opportunity for this mission opens at 10 am and closes at 2.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:29:48 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:50:12 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
>> >Will you have a car? It's about an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on
>the
>> >traffic.
>> >
>> >Take the Grand Central Eastbound towards the WHITESTONE Bridge. Take the
>> >Whitestone Bridge and follow the signs for I-95 NORTHBOUND, aka the New
>> >England Thruway. Stay on I-95 until you hit Connecticut. Take Exit 16
>once
>> >in Connecticut, about 20 minutes from the state line.
>> >
>> >At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
>> >Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to
>Route
>> >1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
>> >Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport
>Avenue).
>> >Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
>> >you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past
>Stew
>> >Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
>> >lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
>> >light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
>> >street, make a left and that's the parking lot.
>> >
>> >It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.
>>
>> Okay, I will have a car.
>>
>> Now I just have to make myself get up early enough on Friday to make
>> it up there so I can get to Penzeys that day.
>>
>> Thanks for the directions!
>>
>> Christine
>
>Not to be contentious, but you'd do yourself a big favor by skipping
>Penzeys'. After fighting the traffic, you'll be nonplussed, especially if
>you've been through their catalog and ordered their spices already. That
>part of CT is a parking lot, bottlenecked by frequent construction and
>overwhelming volume of cars and trucks.
>
>Jack Nervewracking
>
>PS I saw your later post about attempting this on Friday. That's the worst
>day to make said trip as the traffic arteries are clogged not only by daily
>commuters but by NY weekenders making a trek up to CT. The window of
>traffic opportunity for this mission opens at 10 am and closes at 2.

I hate to be a nay sayer on this adventure, but I agree with Jack.
The CT store is cute, but not overwhelmingly large & the only
advantage over ordering from the source is that you can get a whiff of
things (not everything, just many of them) before you buy. And think
of it this way.....they have to ship the stuff from the original to
the CT store, so it has to be fresher from the source (it probably
isn't, but you can use that as a lie or excuse, if you wish).

Christine, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to drive yourself
insane in traffic, come into the city (that means Manhattan) on
Friday & hit the upper west side wonders of Fairway, Cittarella's &
Zabar's. The cruisin' will be wonderful.

Boron

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:03:21 -0500, Margaret Suran >
wrote:

>OhJeeez wrote:
>>
>> no problem 'suffering' criticism for asking why personal/local plans are played
>> in international formats - no ill-intent intended. still, meet-ups, in this
>> venue, seem 'excluding.' and local as i may be, no cause for concern, i won't
>> be there... but who knows what the cat may drag in
>
>How long have you been with rfc? Unless you are a recent subscriber to
>the news group, you have to know that every year several cook ins are
>being held. Everybody who wants to attend is welcome by the hosts.
>Since not everybody can come, for many reasons, does that make the rfc
>cook ins excluding too?

I really enjoy reading about preparations and, better yet, seeing
post-event reports, recipes, and pics (thanks, Barb). Best would be
attending, but 'vicarious, thy name is computer.'

I will be attending a couple of local Neighborhood Association
"festivals" on The Day as official photographer for the web site. Kids
freezing in the park and sitting on Santa's lap (brought by local fire
truck) (Santa, not the lap), and adults "socializing" indoors in the
afternoon. Far from a food-fest. Will be thinking about the NY
festival. :-)

Hark! I heard Margaret Suran > say:
> OhJeeez wrote:
> >
> > no problem 'suffering' criticism for asking why personal/local plans are
> played
> > in international formats - no ill-intent intended. still, meet-ups, in this
> > venue, seem 'excluding.' and local as i may be, no cause for concern, i
> won't
> > be there... but who knows what the cat may drag in
>
> How long have you been with rfc? Unless you are a recent subscriber to
> the news group, you have to know that every year several cook ins are
> being held. Everybody who wants to attend is welcome by the hosts.
> Since not everybody can come, for many reasons, does that make the rfc
> cook ins excluding too?

Not to me. The chances of my being able to leave the state for
a cook-in are currently slim-to-none, but I still like reading
about what the rest of you are up to. It might get my nerve up
to attend one here in Washington...

j.j. (mrs. shy)

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
> I'm goiong to New York to hang out with Margaret for a few days. She's
> having another brunch to celebrate the event (black crepe?) and has
> asked me to extend an invitation to anyone who would like to attend.

Barb,
I thought the brunch already happened but I see this
post is date 11/30? What's up. I was offline for almost
a month - most of October and early November. When I saw
postings about the brunch I thought I had just missed the
original post with the invitation. Of course there's no
way I could go this year due to financial constraints :-(
but I just wondered when it was?

Hey, Margaret, is this going to be a yearly event?
If so I'll have to save up for next year.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:13:29 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:

>
>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message

>> Yes. I count myself fortunate that I am on the east coast for the
>> winter.
>> Christine
>
>You will rue the day that you felt fortunate to be on the east coast for
>winter ;-O
>
>Jack Frost
>

Well, at the end of January, I am heading back to the Left coast,
courtesy of the southern route (by way of New Orleans, if I can manage
it), I expect by then, I will have had more than enough of cold
weather. Hopefully not much snow and ice by that time. I hope it
manages to avoid the worst until I am headed south and west.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:29:48 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:


>PS I saw your later post about attempting this on Friday. That's the worst
>day to make said trip as the traffic arteries are clogged not only by daily
>commuters but by NY weekenders making a trek up to CT. The window of
>traffic opportunity for this mission opens at 10 am and closes at 2.
>
>

Okay, I will avoid this. Darn, I was looking forward to smelling all
the wonderful spices.

I know people say that ordering from the catalog is pretty good, but I
was hoping to get more of an idea of what I wanted, from the store
selection, and in seeing the jars, etc. I have a hard time
comprehending (in my mind, at least) of what such and such oz
constitute. I could end up ordering what I think is a small amount,
or on the other hand, order what I think is a huge amount, and find
out that I am way off in my figuring. I was thinking that going to
the store would help me with this.

Christine

Kate Connally wrote:
>
> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> >
> > I'm goiong to New York to hang out with Margaret for a few days. She's
> > having another brunch to celebrate the event (black crepe?) and has
> > asked me to extend an invitation to anyone who would like to attend.
>
> Barb,
> I thought the brunch already happened but I see this
> post is date 11/30? What's up. I was offline for almost
> a month - most of October and early November. When I saw
> postings about the brunch I thought I had just missed the
> original post with the invitation. Of course there's no
> way I could go this year due to financial constraints :-(
> but I just wondered when it was?
>
> Hey, Margaret, is this going to be a yearly event?
> If so I'll have to save up for next year.
>
> Kate
>
Dear Kate, the brunch will be this Saturday, December 6th. We started
posting about it on October 5th or thereabout.

You will be greatly missed, especially on Saturday morning, when I will
have to devein the celery. ) You did a great job last year.

One of the cold cuts I intend to serve this year, is Zabar's Champagne
Ham. I tasted it and it is really good. I wonder whether this is a
popular kind of ham in some regions. Has anybody heard of it or eaten
it? It is very mild and is supposed to have been cooked in or basted
with Champagne.

If anything happens next year, I will certainly expect you. I no longer
can get my friends' cars into the garage at a good rate, there is a new
owner and a new staff, but we will cross that bridge when it is time.
Meanwhile, you can camp in my living room at any time. If nobody is in
the den, you can have to couch there.

Say "hi" to Zoe.

Love, Margaret

In article >, Christine Dabney
> writes:

>I know people say that ordering from the catalog is pretty good, but I
>was hoping to get more of an idea of what I wanted, from the store
>selection, and in seeing the jars, etc.


It's easier to buy from the catalog (or website) as you can take as much time
as you like to contemplate, pick, choose, and refuse... I leave my list out on
the kitchen counter and mull over it many times over a week or two before
calling in my order... I think shopping for most anything is infinitely easier
from a catalog.

>I have a hard time
>comprehending (in my mind, at least) of what such and such oz
>constitute. I could end up ordering what I think is a small amount,
>or on the other hand, order what I think is a huge amount, and find
>out that I am way off in my figuring. I was thinking that going to
>the store would help me with this.

You must have purchased spices/herbs previously, look at the weights on the
containers and extrapolate your needs for say one year's worth (I try not to
buy more than a year's worth). Most dried herbs weigh about the same by
volume, as do whole spices, blends about in the middle. If you have questions
about an item or how much to buy of an item that you're unfamiliar with simply
ask here. I rarely buy anything in less than the 4oz size, but mostly I buy
8oz sizes, and some 1lb size, like peppercorns, white and black... I buy two
1lb bags of tellicherry for the year.


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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:08:23 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:29:48 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:50:12 GMT, Sheryl Rosen
>>> >Will you have a car? It's about an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on
>>the
>>> >traffic.
>>> >
>>> >Take the Grand Central Eastbound towards the WHITESTONE Bridge. Take the
>>> >Whitestone Bridge and follow the signs for I-95 NORTHBOUND, aka the New
>>> >England Thruway. Stay on I-95 until you hit Connecticut. Take Exit 16
>>once
>>> >in Connecticut, about 20 minutes from the state line.
>>> >
>>> >At the end of the exit ramp, take a left onto EAST AVE.
>>> >Stay on East Avenue, bearing right at the fork in the road. Proceed to
>>Route
>>> >1. It's about a 2-3 minute drive from the exit ramp. Take a right onto
>>> >Route 1 (it is clearly marked as such. it's also known as Westport
>>Avenue).
>>> >Go up the hill, past a huge market called Stew Leonard's on the right. If
>>> >you have time, stop in. You won't believe your eyes!!!! Proceed past
>>Stew
>>> >Leonards, about 3/10 of a mile ahead on the left is Penzey's. The parking
>>> >lot is on the side street, by the Shell Gas Station. There is a traffic
>>> >light, you'll see a Hyundai Dealership and a Shell station, that's the
>>> >street, make a left and that's the parking lot.
>>> >
>>> >It's easier than it sounds. It's probably 40 miles or so.
>>>
>>> Okay, I will have a car.
>>>
>>> Now I just have to make myself get up early enough on Friday to make
>>> it up there so I can get to Penzeys that day.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the directions!
>>>
>>> Christine
>>
>>Not to be contentious, but you'd do yourself a big favor by skipping
>>Penzeys'. After fighting the traffic, you'll be nonplussed, especially if
>>you've been through their catalog and ordered their spices already. That
>>part of CT is a parking lot, bottlenecked by frequent construction and
>>overwhelming volume of cars and trucks.
>>
>>Jack Nervewracking
>>
>>PS I saw your later post about attempting this on Friday. That's the worst
>>day to make said trip as the traffic arteries are clogged not only by daily
>>commuters but by NY weekenders making a trek up to CT. The window of
>>traffic opportunity for this mission opens at 10 am and closes at 2.
>
>I hate to be a nay sayer on this adventure, but I agree with Jack.
>The CT store is cute, but not overwhelmingly large & the only
>advantage over ordering from the source is that you can get a whiff of
>things (not everything, just many of them) before you buy. And think
>of it this way.....they have to ship the stuff from the original to
>the CT store, so it has to be fresher from the source (it probably
>isn't, but you can use that as a lie or excuse, if you wish).
>
>Christine, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to drive yourself
>insane in traffic, come into the city (that means Manhattan) on
>Friday & hit the upper west side wonders of Fairway, Cittarella's &
>Zabar's. The cruisin' will be wonderful.
>
I concur. You are unlikely to find anything in CT that you can't get
in Manhattan. I would add that Citarella also has a fine store on 6th
Ave at 9th St, where Balducci's used to be. Either location is fine.

Also, Dean and DeLuca on Broadway at Prince is worth a look.
Murray's cheese shop at Bleeker and Cornelia.

Wild Edibles in Grand Central Terminal for live Nantucket Bay
Scallops.

Russ and Daughters on East Houston for herring, pickled, smoked, etc.

Petrossian on 7th Ave between 57th and 58th St. Not American, but
Thanksgiving is past. I believe they have the best smokehouse in the
galaxy. The best smoked eel I have ever tasted. $$$$

But, even if you skip all the stores, get up on Saturday early enough
to walk through the Union Square Greenmarket before going uptown. Of
course it won't be like October, but still worth seeing. You can get
on the #6 train right there.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

For your upscale SUV: Dingle-balls hand knit of natural Icelandic yarn

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:49:43 -0500, Rodney Myrvaagnes
> wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:08:23 -0500, Boron Elgar

>>Christine, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to drive yourself
>>insane in traffic, come into the city (that means Manhattan) on
>>Friday & hit the upper west side wonders of Fairway, Cittarella's &
>>Zabar's. The cruisin' will be wonderful.
>>
>I concur. You are unlikely to find anything in CT that you can't get
>in Manhattan. I would add that Citarella also has a fine store on 6th
>Ave at 9th St, where Balducci's used to be. Either location is fine.
>
>Also, Dean and DeLuca on Broadway at Prince is worth a look.
> Murray's cheese shop at Bleeker and Cornelia.
>
>Wild Edibles in Grand Central Terminal for live Nantucket Bay
>Scallops.
>
>Russ and Daughters on East Houston for herring, pickled, smoked, etc.
>
>Petrossian on 7th Ave between 57th and 58th St. Not American, but
>Thanksgiving is past. I believe they have the best smokehouse in the
>galaxy. The best smoked eel I have ever tasted. $$$$
>
>But, even if you skip all the stores, get up on Saturday early enough
>to walk through the Union Square Greenmarket before going uptown. Of
>course it won't be like October, but still worth seeing. You can get
>on the #6 train right there.
>
>
>Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a
>
>For your upscale SUV: Dingle-balls hand knit of natural Icelandic yarn

Could someone write me privately, so as not to take up list space, on
how to get to some of these places by public transportation? I will be
staying in Whitestone, I believe it is called. I had been planning
to take a cab to Margarets, but if I get there early enough on Friday,
I might want to go into the City. Reminder: I am physically
handicapped in that I cannot walk long distances.

Thanks,

Christine

In article >, Kate Connally
> wrote:
> Barb,
> I thought the brunch already happened but I see this
> post is date 11/30? What's up.

Nope. I leave tomorrow morning for NY and brunch is on Saturday. I've
identified my schmatteh undies and will start packing soon. :-)
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

Boron Elgar > wrote:

> I hate to be a nay sayer on this adventure, but I agree with Jack.
> The CT store is cute, but not overwhelmingly large & the only
> advantage over ordering from the source is that you can get a whiff of
> things (not everything, just many of them) before you buy. And think
> of it this way.....they have to ship the stuff from the original to
> the CT store, so it has to be fresher from the source (it probably
> isn't, but you can use that as a lie or excuse, if you wish).

> Christine, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to drive yourself
> insane in traffic, come into the city (that means Manhattan) on
> Friday & hit the upper west side wonders of Fairway, Cittarella's &
> Zabar's. The cruisin' will be wonderful.

Christine, I suggest you skip Penzey's on Friday and visit Zabar's
instead. Zabar's is an absolutely amazing food and kitchen supply store on
the upper west side and only about a twenty minute drive from where
Margaret lives. In fact, it is Margaret, Sheryl, and Sue who introduced me
to Zabar's.

Specific details on where Zabar's is located (including a map), and what
is sold there are on the web at http://www.zabars.com/welcome.html and
you'll enjoy visiting there a lot more than you will the Penzey's. Believe
it or not, parking in the area around Zabar's is also not as bad as one
might expect if you're inclined to drive, but bring quarters for the
parking meters. If you go to Zabar's, bring a small camping cooler (even
if its a cheapo styrofoam model) so you can buy some of Zabar's perishable
homemade treats and transport them back home safely. I love the Kosher
salami from Zabar's and they have an impressive selection of home made
smoked fishes and also a great cheese section with very reasonable prices.
If you need some gourmet items such as balsamic vinegar, Zabar's is also a
good place to shop.

Damned! Now, I am really hungry!

In article > , "Jack
Schidt®" > wrote:

> You will rue the day that you felt fortunate to be on the east coast for
> winter ;-O
>
> Jack Frost

I've got my lined waterproof shoeboots. I've got my winter jacket with
hood attached. I've got new pile-lined gloves. I've got my silk
longjohns in my bag. Bring it!

(Now I gotta hope to get the rest of the stuff in my other bag --
cameras, toiletries, reading material.

¡Hasta mañana!
--
-Barb
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>
"If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:50:01 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> arranged random neurons, so they looked
like this:

>I'm goiong to New York to hang out with Margaret for a few days.

<snippidy>

We'll be there with bell's on. Have Margaret's directions, staying in
Manhattan and looking forward to meeting *in person* some folks whose
posts I've enjoyed for years.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

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"Melba's Jammin'" > wrote in message
...
: In article > ,
"Jack
: Schidt®" > wrote:
:
: > You will rue the day that you felt fortunate to be on the
east coast for
: > winter ;-O
: >
: > Jack Frost
:
: I've got my lined waterproof shoeboots. I've got my winter
jacket with
: hood attached. I've got new pile-lined gloves. I've got my
silk
: longjohns in my bag. Bring it!
:
: (Now I gotta hope to get the rest of the stuff in my other
bag --
: cameras, toiletries, reading material.
:
: ¡Hasta mañana!
: --
: -Barb
: <www.jamlady.eboard.com>
: "If you're ever in a jam, here I am."
===========

Barb,

What's with all the gear? You're going from Minnesota to New
York... New York doesn't ever have any bad weather...!
<running and ducking while thinking of snow....!!>

--
Cyndi
<Remove a "b" to reply>

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:35:22 GMT, "Rick & Cyndi"
> wrote:

>
> What's with all the gear? You're going from Minnesota to New
> York... New York doesn't ever have any bad weather...!
> <running and ducking while thinking of snow....!!>

Oh yeah, the weather is soooo good in NYC that my SIL will
be here until almost xmas.
<w>

Rick & Cyndi wrote:
,
> "Jack
> : Schidt®" > wrote:
> :
> : > You will rue the day that you felt fortunate to be on the
> east coast for
> : > winter ;-O
> : >
> : > Jack Frost
> :
> : I've got my lined waterproof shoeboots. I've got my winter
> jacket with
> : hood attached. I've got new pile-lined gloves. I've got my
> silk
> : longjohns in my bag. Bring it!
> :
> : (Now I gotta hope to get the rest of the stuff in my other
> bag --
> : cameras, toiletries, reading material.
> :
> : ¡Hasta mañana!
> : --
> : -Barb
\
> Barb,
>
> What's with all the gear? You're going from Minnesota to New
> York... New York doesn't ever have any bad weather...!
> <running and ducking while thinking of snow....!!>
>
> Cyndi

Perfect weather. For the last two days, the winds gusted to 50 MPH at
times and yesterday, the wind chill factor made the temperature feel as
if it were between zero and ten above. We had a few unexpected snow
squalls that were miniature snow storms. Walking on Manhattan streets
was nearly impossible.

This morning the temperature is 21 degrees in Central Park and the winds
are still strong, albeit not as strong as in the last two days.

Now there is the possibility of a major snow fall for the week end, most
likely starting on Friday and going into Saturday. This might play
havoc with our plans for many outdoor activities, such as going to the
Rockefeller Tree Lighting tonight, visiting the outdoor Christmas
Markets in Bryant Park and Union Square and just do some running around
the city. Last week at was as balmy as if it were early October.

Most of all, if there is a heavy snow fall on Saturday, I hope that all
our brunch guests will be able to make it. Since the weatherman is
frequently wrong, I hope this prediction will not come true.

MS

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:27:49 -0500, Margaret Suran >
wrote:


>Most of all, if there is a heavy snow fall on Saturday, I hope that all
>our brunch guests will be able to make it. Since the weatherman is
>frequently wrong, I hope this prediction will not come true.
>

I have 4 wheel drive & a V-8, We'll be there. We love driving that
thing so much in the snow, that we have been known to sneak out in the
middle of the night before the snow plows come, just so we can play.

I am more concerned about The Princess attempting to drive home & back
to college on Friday & Saturday. Trying to convince an invincible
teenager not to do something (rear wheel drive and a car notorious for
slip-slidin' away) is not a nice task.

Boron

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:27:49 -0500, Margaret Suran >
wrote:



>Perfect weather. For the last two days, the winds gusted to 50 MPH at
>times and yesterday, the wind chill factor made the temperature feel as
>if it were between zero and ten above. We had a few unexpected snow
>squalls that were miniature snow storms. Walking on Manhattan streets
>was nearly impossible.
>
>This morning the temperature is 21 degrees in Central Park and the winds
>are still strong, albeit not as strong as in the last two days.
>
>Now there is the possibility of a major snow fall for the week end, most
>likely starting on Friday and going into Saturday. This might play
>havoc with our plans for many outdoor activities, such as going to the
>Rockefeller Tree Lighting tonight, visiting the outdoor Christmas
>Markets in Bryant Park and Union Square and just do some running around
>the city. Last week at was as balmy as if it were early October.
>
>Most of all, if there is a heavy snow fall on Saturday, I hope that all
>our brunch guests will be able to make it. Since the weatherman is
>frequently wrong, I hope this prediction will not come true.
>
>MS

Yeah, I have been hearing those reports. I am not used to driving in
winter weather like that anymore. I have been a California gal for
much of the past 18 years: we only get rain in the SF bay area.

I am hoping I can make it. I have been planning for this brunch ever
since I heard about it. I am driving up that way on Friday, hope I
know more by then, if there is a major snowstorm heading that way. If
so, I am staying here, even if it means I am missing meeting some of
the legends of rfc.

I am *such* a wimp!

Christine