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Hello Group!!

I was wondering if anyone's ever heard of the kitchen designer Stephen
Rabinowitz?? I was looking on eBay for something to give my husband
who is a chef and wants to get our home kitchen redone. He always
talks about how kitchens are poorly designed and how you can't just
have Home Depot design your kitchen on a computer and expect to get a
well thought-out design....

It's here on this , but I am skeptical to bid. Although at $300 for
hand-drafted design, it seems like I shoud jump on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=23646430 64

That designer evidently designed one of Frank Sinatra's kitchens and
gives speeches about "ill conceived kitchen designs." It looks like
he will design one person's kitchen in a while as he is in his 60s now
(he studied Frank Lloyd Wright and Aero Saarinan in the 1950s and
onward at Yale I think) and has attained a level of success.

I can't afford the buy it now price, so I am thinking if i jump on it
I may get it at the opening bid. Any thoughts??

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When I get a decent job (i.e. paying more than $19,000 a year which is
what I make in the military) and can buy a house, my kitchen will be
done like a commercial kitchen -- commercial stove, stainless steel
everything, etc.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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I hear you. So much easier to clean up for one thing..

John Gaughan wrote in message ...
>When I get a decent job (i.e. paying more than $19,000 a year which is
>what I make in the military) and can buy a house, my kitchen will be
>done like a commercial kitchen -- commercial stove, stainless steel
>everything, etc.
>
>--
>John Gaughan
>http://www.johngaughan.net/

>

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"John D. Misrahi" writes:
>
>John Gaughan wrote in message ...
>>When I get a decent job (i.e. paying more than $19,000 a year which is
>>what I make in the military) and can buy a house, my kitchen will be
>>done like a commercial kitchen -- commercial stove, stainless steel
>>everything, etc.
>
>So much easier to clean up for one thing..

Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean, streak free,
and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving, every speck shows like
10X actual size. I suppose though for someone who doesn't cook much, if at
all, and can afford a cleaning servant, then the commercial kitchen look can
make one appear the culinary maven - not - um, while you're at it don't skimp
on strewing the All-Crap cookware about. Can always tell the food frauds, they
somehow think professional cooks do janitorial duty.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

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PENMART01 wrote:
> Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean,
> streak free, and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving,
> every speck shows like 10X actual size.

I want all stainless because it functions well, is very durable, and
simple. As long as it is "clean enough" I am happy. It does not need to
be polished.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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"John Gaughan" wrote in message ...
> PENMART01 wrote:
> > Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean,
> > streak free, and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving,
> > every speck shows like 10X actual size.
>
> I want all stainless because it functions well, is very durable, and
> simple. As long as it is "clean enough" I am happy. It does not need to
> be polished.
>

I've got stainless counters and I don't really find them all that difficult
to keep clean. I do have a work table in my kitchen where I do almost all of
my food prep so the counters don't get all that much of a work out. The
toughest work cleaning is just right around the sink and stove of course.

-Mike

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In article >, John Gaughan
> writes:

>PENMART01 wrote:
>> Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean,
>> streak free, and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving,
>> every speck shows like 10X actual size.
>
>I want all stainless because it functions well, is very durable, and
>simple. As long as it is "clean enough" I am happy. It does not need to
>be polished.

You omited the post from the person I responded to... that's what makes you a
sleaze bag.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

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"Mike Deliverance Pearce" writes:

>"John Bubba Gaughan" wrote:
>> PENMART01 wrote:
>> > Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean,
>> > streak free, and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving,
>> > every speck shows like 10X actual size.
>>
>> I want all stainless because it functions well, is very durable, and
>> simple.

You tawkin' your family or your kitchen?

>As long as it is "clean enough" I am happy.

Clean enough?

>I've got stainless counters and I don't really find them all that difficult
>to keep clean. I do have a work table in my kitchen where I do almost all of
>my food prep so the counters don't get all that much of a work out. The
>toughest work cleaning is just right around the sink and stove of course.
>
>-Mike

Hey, everyone has a different idea of "clean"... to really find out you'da had
to been indoctrinating freshly arrived US military inductees... 'specially them
southern boys... for most it was a departure from the "crick" and their first
indoor plumbing hot shower experience, with soap, really.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

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PENMART01 wrote:
>
> Hey, everyone has a different idea of "clean"... to really find out you'da had
> to been indoctrinating freshly arrived US military inductees... 'specially them
> southern boys... for most it was a departure from the "crick" and their first
> indoor plumbing hot shower experience, with soap, really.



Your writing from personal experience.







--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

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"Mike Pearce" > wrote in message news:<cgtAb.83076$xV6.67069@lakeread04>...
> "John Gaughan" wrote in message ...
> > PENMART01 wrote:
> > > Not really... stainless steel is a bitch to keep looking clean,
> > > streak free, and fingerprint free... stainless steel is unforgiving,
> > > every speck shows like 10X actual size.
> >
> > I want all stainless because it functions well, is very durable, and
> > simple. As long as it is "clean enough" I am happy. It does not need to
> > be polished.
> >
>
> I've got stainless counters and I don't really find them all that difficult
> to keep clean. I do have a work table in my kitchen where I do almost all of
> my food prep so the counters don't get all that much of a work out. The
> toughest work cleaning is just right around the sink and stove of course.
>
> -Mike

I love to cook and since my husband is a chef, it seems it would be
great to have a functional and beautiful kitchen, not that we can
afford to do it RIGHT. I was chatting online with someone who spent
$95,000 getting a single Rabinowitz-designed kitchen and medium-sized
bath. She was describing the kitchen part as a work of modern art,
though understated just as she wanted. She said that working in her
kitchen is like nothing she could have experienced before. She
obviously is wealthy -- she has a full-size Sub Zero refrigerator next
to an equal size Sub Z freezer, granite countertops, etc. She had him
design the cabinetry for Poggenpohl brand, which used to be German but
I think, although technically German, is owed by a Scandinavian
company now. She sought out having Rabinowitz design her kitchen
although she lives in Connecticut for three reasons, which are amazing
to me: 1) she said he is known to make kithens with incredibly
functional designs tailored ad nauseum to your every need, 2) she said
having a kitchen designed by him because he is well-known, especially
if you get high-quality cabinetry, appliances, and countertops
increases the value of your house tremendously so you get your money
back and then some and 3) because you have to deal with some
inexperienced idiot if you go to the big home stores like Lowe's who
have someone design your kitchen like a video game on a computer.

I don't know about the last point, but I can see how there would be a
difference I guess between a well known artist and a kitchen salesman,
similar to a Rolls Royce and a go-kart. Both will eventually get your
to your destination, but one is more comfortable.

But, I don't know....

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Farm Boy Mark writes:

>PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> Hey, everyone has a different idea of "clean"... to really find out you'da
>had
>> to been indoctrinating freshly arrived US military inductees... 'specially
>them
>> southern boys... for most it was a departure from the "crick" and their
>first
>> indoor plumbing hot shower experience, with soap, really.
>
>Your writing from personal experience.

Yes. And it's "You're", boot! Like you would know from writing, you
illiterate hillybilly *******. Get your filthy ass wet, and scrub your
sister's slime off your little boy peepee... NOW, farm boy! I'd have you
crying for your momma before your first hour off the bus... and stop staring at
my feet, boy... those are shoes, you ever seen shoes before, BOY!


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

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"Michelle" < wrote in message
om...
> "Mike Pearce" wrote:

> > I've got stainless counters and I don't really find them all that
difficult
> > to keep clean. I do have a work table in my kitchen where I do almost
all of
> > my food prep so the counters don't get all that much of a work out. The
> > toughest work cleaning is just right around the sink and stove of
course.
> >
>
> I love to cook and since my husband is a chef, it seems it would be
> great to have a functional and beautiful kitchen, not that we can
> afford to do it RIGHT. I was chatting online with someone who spent
> $95,000 getting a single Rabinowitz-designed kitchen and medium-sized
> bath.
<<snip a bunch of stuff describing a lavish kitchen>>

> But, I don't know....

Ever see MTV Cribs? Just about everyone featured on that show has a kitchen
like you've described and they've got a freezer containing a few Hot Pockets
and a refrigerator filled with Bud and Champagne.

In reality, how difficult is it to figure out what it takes to have a
kitchen that is functional for cooking? Pretty may be another thing.

I bought a house a little over a year ago that for better or worse was in
the middle of a "renovation" by the previous owner. What this meant to me
was that I had a blank slate. The kitchen was just about an empty room, no
cabinets, counters or appliances. I got to put it together from the ground
up. I went to some high-end design places and talked to them, but I came to
the realization that I knew a lot more than they did when it came to the way
I cooked.

I came very close to putting together the entire kitchen with restaurant
supply stuff. I was going to forego cabinets and use nothing but work tables
with shelves below. One thing I did get out of talking to designers is that
I should give some consideration to resale value. I don't think most people
would be too thrilled with a kitchen with no cabinets. I ended up with kind
of a hybrid. I put in bottom cabinets, but above I used restaurant supply SS
shelving. People who come to visit tell me they like the way it looks, but
they may just be being polite.

Looking back at it now a year later there are a few things I'd do
differently, but not many.

I'd rather cook in my kitchen than just about any other I've seen, but then
again I know where everything is.

-Mike

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PENMART01 wrote:
> You tawkin' your family or your kitchen?

What a pitiful waste of human life.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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PENMART01 wrote:
> You omited the post from the person I responded to... that's what
> makes you a sleaze bag.

You are a hypocritical asshole. That is what makes you a sleaze bag.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

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PENMART01 wrote:

> Yes. And it's "You're", boot! Like you would know from writing, you
> illiterate hillybilly *******. Get your filthy ass wet, and scrub your
> sister's slime off your little boy peepee... NOW, farm boy! I'd have you
> crying for your momma before your first hour off the bus... and stop staring at
> my feet, boy... those are shoes, you ever seen shoes before, BOY!


The name "Sheldon" would never gain a sergeant respect from his
soldiers... too Geeky... and a sergeant with 6 cats would make nothing
more than cannon fodder...


~john!


--
Say hello to the rug's topography...It holds quite a lot of interest
with your face down on it...

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PENMART01 wrote:

> > Yes. And it's "You're", boot! Like you would know from writing, you
> illiterate hillybilly *******. Get your filthy ass wet, and scrub your
> sister's slime off your little boy peepee... NOW, farm boy! I'd have you
> crying for your momma before your first hour off the bus... and stop staring at
> my feet, boy... those are shoes, you ever seen shoes before, BOY!





Oh My, the nerve I must have hit.


LMAO




--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

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Mark > writes:

>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> > Yes. And it's "You're", boot! Like you would know from writing, you
>> illiterate hillybilly *******. Get your filthy ass wet, and scrub your
>> sister's slime off your little boy peepee... NOW, farm boy! I'd have you
>> crying for your momma before your first hour off the bus... and stop
>staring at
>> my feet, boy... those are shoes, you never seen shoes before, BOY!
>
>Oh My, the nerve I must have hit.


Consider yourself fortunate... you're 4F and/or spineless.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

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PENMART01 wrote:

> Consider yourself fortunate... you're 4F and/or spineless.


Really?

Please explane.



--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

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Michelle wrote:

> Hello Group!!
>
> I was wondering if anyone's ever heard of the kitchen designer Stephen
> Rabinowitz?? I was looking on eBay for something to give my husband
> who is a chef and wants to get our home kitchen redone. He always
> talks about how kitchens are poorly designed and how you can't just
> have Home Depot design your kitchen on a computer and expect to get a
> well thought-out design....
>

Take a look at a book called "Great Kitchens: Design Ideas from America's
Top Chefs", which features the home kitchens of several chefs including
Rick Bayless, Tom Douglas, and Alice Waters.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books


---jkb

--
"The kitchen staff is complaining of rats in the kitchen.
I'd like to hire a new staff."
-- Lunchlady Doris