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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this
group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary Party could do the heavy lifting. If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. Your thoughts? Interious |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
I vote "no". Best regards, Bob |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:13:13 -0500, Interious wrote:
> The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? Who would then act as policeman to all the rogue nations that would result from the liberation of the 50 states? Some of them might even start using the metric system, or if that's too radical for them, start publishing cooking recipes with dry ingredient measures by weight, instead of the "cup". Better the devil you know.... -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
zenit wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:13:13 -0500, > Interious > > had to open a new box of zerones to say: > > >The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > >group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > >abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > >as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > >Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > >Party could do the heavy lifting. > > > >If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > >it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > >its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > > >Your thoughts? > > > >Interious > > I'd settle for the abolishment of carrots... > > <! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- zenit -- > Bell Peppers..... :-P |
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Should the United States be abolished?
I vote instead of abolishing the country, the administration be brought to
international tribunal court. That way, each side has a chance to defend their standing, without being on their own soil. Somehow I have visions of Bush behaving like Milosevik, claiming that no jurisdiction rests with the court, and thus wouldn't defend himself. It'd be nice for a change to have someone decide whether or not Bush was "relevant". |
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Should the United States be abolished?
"Interious" > wrote in message ... > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? > > Interious Beware the industrial Military complex. Dwight D Eisenhower.. http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm Dimitri |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
Interious wrote:
> Your thoughts? If we abolished the United States, who would be left to provoke arabs into becoming terrorists? -- John Gaughan http://www.johngaughan.net/ |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
Interious wrote:
> > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? > > Interious Of course not. There's nothing wrong with the U.S. that a kinder, humanitarian Democratic administration couldn't cure! gloria p |
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Should the United States be abolished?
"Interious" > wrote in message ... > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? > > Interious > > The US is fine. What we need to abolish is the adminstration with its cranial-anal insertion problem, aka heads up dey asses. But given that it's winter, I'm sure their ears stay warm. Jack Gas |
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Should the United States be abolished?
If it were abolished, what entity (with any power whatsoever) would enforce
it? Besides, what would terrorists do with their lives? Blow themselves up in a deserted area? "Interious" > wrote in message ... > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? > > Interious > > |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
John Gaughan wrote:
> > Interious wrote: > > Your thoughts? > > If we abolished the United States, who would be left to provoke arabs > into becoming terrorists? Yeah, they've been so kind and gentle all through the centuries before we existed. nancy |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
Nancy Young > wrote in
: > John Gaughan wrote: >> >> Interious wrote: >> > Your thoughts? >> >> If we abolished the United States, who would be left to provoke >> arabs into becoming terrorists? > > Yeah, they've been so kind and gentle all through the centuries > before we existed. Kinder than the dirt encrusted Europeans they civilized over five centuries of presence in Spain and whose only response was to attempt to skewer them or stave in their skulls or burn them at the stake for heresy. You should read the history of Islamic-Christian relations before saying things like that. -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
Katra > wrote in
: >> >Your thoughts? >> > >> >Interious >> >> I'd settle for the abolishment of carrots... >> >> <! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- zenit -- > > > Bell Peppers..... :-P Broccoli -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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Should the United States be abolished?
"Chris" > wrote in message om... > I vote instead of abolishing the country, the tooth fairy bring all the good boys and girls a new bicycle. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Should the United States be abolished?
"Dimitri" > wrote in message m... > > "Interious" > wrote in message > ... > > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > > > Your thoughts? > > > > Interious > > Beware the industrial Military complex. > > Dwight D Eisenhower.. > > http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm > > Dimitri > Amen. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished? My thoughts
Interious your an idiot. This is a cooking group.
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
Michel Boucher > wrote:
>Katra > wrote in : > >>> >Your thoughts? >>> > >>> >Interious >>> >>> I'd settle for the abolishment of carrots... >>> >>> <! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- zenit -- > >> >> Bell Peppers..... :-P > >Broccoli Broccoli florets. Steamed stems are great with a yellow sauce. --Blair "Artifical BBQ flavor." |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
In article >, Michel Boucher
> wrote: > Katra > wrote in > : > > >> >Your thoughts? > >> > > >> >Interious > >> > >> I'd settle for the abolishment of carrots... > >> > >> <! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- zenit -- > > > > > Bell Peppers..... :-P > > Broccoli Noway! This is most excellent greenage! Just don't (over)cook it. And thanks for one of my favorites: "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams -- Jack |
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Should the United States be abolished?
Dimitri wrote: > "Interious" > wrote in message > ... > >>The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this >>group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be >>abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such >>as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. >>Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary >>Party could do the heavy lifting. >> >>If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, >>it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without >>its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Interious > > > Beware the industrial Military complex. > > Dwight D Eisenhower.. > > http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm > > Dimitri > > Just to bring you into the 21st century, D, it is now referred to as the military-industrial-congressional complex. -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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Should the United States be abolished?
Jack Schidt® wrote: > "Interious" > wrote in message > ... > >>The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this >>group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be >>abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such >>as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. >>Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary >>Party could do the heavy lifting. >> >>If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, >>it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without >>its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. >> >>Your thoughts? >> >>Interious >> >> > > > The US is fine. What we need to abolish is the adminstration with its > cranial-anal insertion problem, aka heads up dey asses. But given that it's > winter, I'm sure their ears stay warm. > > Jack Gas > > /whoa Jack. You are on to something. Dumbo, with his big ears flapping in the wind, has finally beat his brain to death. -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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>If we abolished the United States, who would be left to provoke arabs >into becoming terrorists? > >-- >John Gaughan If we abolished the United States we would probably all have to become arabs. NO THANKS. I like pork. :-) Laura B. |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:21:20 GMT, "Dimitri"
> wrote: > > Beware the industrial Military complex. > > Dwight D Eisenhower.. ? I have no idea what you are trying to say. Eisenhower was supreme commander of the Allied Forces and he was our president after WWII because he was so greatly respected by American voters. How can you begin to diminish that fact? There is no way you can paint Eisenhower and Bush with the same brush if that's what you're trying to do. > > http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm > That was chilling to read, because I remember some of the speech... or is it because it's replayed from time to time? Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
COTTP > wrote in
: > In article >, > says... >> Katra > wrote in >> : >> >> >> >Your thoughts? >> >> > >> >> >Interious >> >> >> >> I'd settle for the abolishment of carrots... >> >> >> >> <! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- zenit -- > >> > >> > Bell Peppers..... :-P >> >> Broccoli > > Okra Quartered lengthwise, sautéed with diced onion and some pungent spices, okra is one of my favourite vegetables. In moist anything, like stews, it really sucks canal water majorly (to use a not so recent expression of distaste). -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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On 12 Dec 2003 02:28:24 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: >Nancy Young > wrote in : > >> John Gaughan wrote: >>> >>> Interious wrote: >>> > Your thoughts? >>> >>> If we abolished the United States, who would be left to provoke >>> arabs into becoming terrorists? >> >> Yeah, they've been so kind and gentle all through the centuries >> before we existed. > >Kinder than the dirt encrusted Europeans they civilized over five >centuries of presence in Spain and whose only response was to attempt >to skewer them or stave in their skulls or burn them at the stake for >heresy. You should read the history of Islamic-Christian relations >before saying things like that. Michel try this http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm for a history of the Islamic-Christian relations. Pan Ohco |
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Pan Ohco > wrote in
: > http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm You're referring to an article that covers a small portion of the relations, one that was particularly frought with turmoil. I may have missed it, but I saw no mention of contributions in knowledge, founding of universities and centres of learning in which Christians were welcomed. I refer specifically to the university of Granada which was the model for some of the older Spanish universities, Salamanca, Alcala de Henares, and the Université de Paris which was the model for all the other universities in Europe. I also saw only reference to Islamic agression but none to their pacification and social improvements (over the previous conditions of course, you can't make a silk purse...) in the areas they did occupy (something the US government claims it is doing now in Iraq, I might point out). The history of the spread of Islam is well documented and I might add that I am conversant with that period in history, but what is less documented are the improvements they brought with them: better sanitation, science (including cutting-edge medicine and astronomy which allowed farther reaching travel [check out the life of Ibn Batuta]), and yes, even the survival of Greek theatre for which we are all forever in their debt. The European response was to take to arms and seek to eradicate a much superior civilisation on the grounds that they couldn't accept Muhammad. Islam accepts Christianity as part of its tradition. That is a fundamental tenet of Islam in fact. And, what is less known also and not mentioned here in this Xtian (yes, I noted the header of the page) apologia for barbaric behaviour, is that most Christians in the areas under Islamic rule were converting voluntarily to Islam. That was the true threat of Islam in the Middle Ages, its power to turn Christians into what their former religious leaders qualified as "heretics". A more modern case, by way of illustration of the power of Islam, is that of the Islamic community of India. There the untouchables, the lowest and most reviled caste, realized that Islam accepted them as equals, which Hinduism did not. So there were massive conversions on a scale that would make Jerry Falwell envious. When it came time to pay the piper, Christians in Europe balked. In conclusion, I'll quote the following (note the ***): "Medieval Spain was one of the most tolerant lands in medieval Europe, a place where Christians, Jews, and Moslems lived in harmony. ***That had been the policy of the Moslems when they ruled Spain***; the Christians continued it. By the 15th century, however, intolerance grew, evidenced by mob violence and persecution laws. In 1492, Castile passed a law requiring Jews to become Christians or go into exile. Spaniards increasingly saw Moslems as a problem. The Moslems rebelled against religious intolerance and were ordered to convert to Christianity or leave. Too many Spaniards were beginning to believe that loyalty to the monarch and to Spain required that everyone believe the same." http://historicaltextarchive.com/sec...article&artid= 321 So put that in your pipe and smoke it! -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:18:56 GMT, Tim Challenger
<"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"> wrote: >On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:13:13 -0500, Interious wrote: > >> The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this >> group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be >> abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such >> as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. >> Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary >> Party could do the heavy lifting. >> >> If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, >> it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without >> its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. >> >> Your thoughts? > >Who would then act as policeman to all the rogue nations that would result >from the liberation of the 50 states? Some of them might even start using >the metric system, or if that's too radical for them, start publishing >cooking recipes with dry ingredient measures by weight, instead of the >"cup". > >Better the devil you know.... you might also think about which states have the bomb... your pal, curtis |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
All I can say is TRY IT!!!
While not ALL of our military endeavours have been totally HONORABLE... the ones that counted WERE. Japan Germany USSR Afganistan Iraq An industrial machine that can out produce ANYTHING. A finacial arm that can outright PURCHASE many small - medium sized countries. Then there's John Q. American... we also have one of the (if not THE) most armed citizenry. So go ahead, belly up to the bar and start your petty little insurgency. We'll happy to SQUASH you like the little bug that you are. Peace! In article >, Interious > wrote: > The supremely critical and high quality political thinking in this > group has led me to the question of whether the U.S. should be > abolished as a nation-state and be taken over by some world body such > as that perennially wise and August body--the U.N. > Perhaps the World Worker's Party or the World Communist Revolutionary > Party could do the heavy lifting. > > If ever there was a demonic rogue presence on the face of this world, > it is the United States. The world would clearly be better off without > its 230 year existence. Ward Churchill agrees. > > Your thoughts? > > Interious > > |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished? My thoughts
The United States, as we KNEW it, IS being abolished. Slightly less
than half the voting public seems to be for it. |
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Should the United States be abolished?
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:19:38 GMT, alzelt
> wrote: > > >Dimitri wrote: >> Beware the industrial Military complex. >> >> Dwight D Eisenhower.. >> >> http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm >> >> Dimitri >> >> >Just to bring you into the 21st century, D, it is now referred to as the >military-industrial-congressional complex. a.k.a. 'the iron triangle'? your pal, blake |
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Should the United States be abolished?
blake murphy > wrote in
: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:19:38 GMT, alzelt > > wrote: > >> >> >>Dimitri wrote: > >>> Beware the industrial Military complex. >>> >>> Dwight D Eisenhower.. >>> >>> http://www.grannyd.com/military-industrial.htm >>> >>> Dimitri >>> >>> >>Just to bring you into the 21st century, D, it is now referred to >>as the military-industrial-congressional complex. > > a.k.a. 'the iron triangle'? More like the Mound of Mars (Mons Martiis) because somebody has to be on top. -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished?
On 12 Dec 2003 23:38:47 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: >Pan Ohco > wrote in : > >> http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm > >You're referring to an article that covers a small portion of the >relations, one that was particularly frought with turmoil. > Cut A lovely and long dissertation about how benevolent the moors were after they invaded spain and kill a substantial portion of it inhabitants during its occupation. And I see that your still using a tag line that you know is untruth. I think that anyone reading the history of the crusades at the above URL can understand. Pan Ohco |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished? My thoughts
On 13 Dec 2003 18:06:18 GMT, Michel Boucher >
wrote: >Stark Raven > wrote in news:131220031102281458% : > >> The United States, as we KNEW it, IS being abolished. Slightly less >> than half the voting public seems to be for it. > >Which means that if Bush had close to 50% of the *vote* (with turnouts >of 30% being the average) then less than 15% of the US voting public is >giving him a mandate to decide the fate of the world. I'm sure Pan >will try to come up with an excuse as to why THIS 15% is more apt to >rule the world than any other 15%. Well Michel I have never said that the US should rule the world. I just said that you as a non American can not decide for us, what we will do. Of course I am not all knowing as you are. Pan Ohco |
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"Pan Ohco" > wrote in message ... > On 12 Dec 2003 23:38:47 GMT, Michel Boucher > > wrote: > > >Pan Ohco > wrote in > : > > > >> http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm > > > >You're referring to an article that covers a small portion of the > >relations, one that was particularly frought with turmoil. > > > Cut > > A lovely and long dissertation about how benevolent the moors were > after they invaded spain and kill a substantial portion of it > inhabitants during its occupation. > > And I see that your still using a tag line that you know is untruth. > > I think that anyone reading the history of the crusades at the above > URL can understand. > > > Pan Ohco Thanks for posting a link to the real story of the crusades; we wouldn't want anyone to think the christians were really evil hypocrites. Jack Inquisition |
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Poll: Should the United States be abolished? My thoughts
Pan Ohco > wrote in
: >>Which means that if Bush had close to 50% of the *vote* (with >>turnouts of 30% being the average) then less than 15% of the US >>voting public is giving him a mandate to decide the fate of the >>world. I'm sure Pan will try to come up with an excuse as to why >>THIS 15% is more apt to rule the world than any other 15%. > > Well Michel I have never said that the US should rule the world. I > just said that you as a non American can not decide for us, what > we will do. But if what you will do has a direct impact on the quality of life and the political and economic stability of other sovereign nations, then you no longer have the right to act unilaterally without expecting any criticism levelled at your actions. That is what the UN was created to allow, a debate in a neutral area. You and I cannot resolve this because you are dead set against accepting criticism and I believe it is the only way you will grow up and join the community of nations. But the United Nations, created at the behest of the United States among other founding nations for this very purpose, is the proper forum to debate these matters and resolve them with the greatest (not wealthiest) good in mind. -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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Pan Ohco > wrote in
: > On 12 Dec 2003 23:38:47 GMT, Michel Boucher > > wrote: > >>Pan Ohco > wrote in m: >> >>> http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2002/cover.htm >> >>You're referring to an article that covers a small portion of the >>relations, one that was particularly frought with turmoil. > > A lovely and long dissertation about how benevolent the moors were > after they invaded spain and kill a substantial portion of it > inhabitants during its occupation. Really? Can you substantiate that with non-Catholic sources? Something that hasn't been vetted by Cardinal Ratzinger would be a good start. > And I see that your still using a tag line that you know is > untruth. > > I think that anyone reading the history of the crusades at the > above URL can understand. However, it was not a history, just a personal note on a topic for which the author has a clear bias in favour of Christianity. Have you ever read a Muslim history of the Crusades to balance your point of view? Of course you haven't. -- "The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur." attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams |
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