I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".

"Mpoconnor7" > wrote

> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

You beat me to it - I was just going to post this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._tv/obit_smith

(for those of you who like the shorter URL - http://snipurl.com/7n9o)

I know I've seen threads here in the past about whether he was alive or not.
Guess this settles that.

Paula

Saw his obit in the Oregonian. Sure thought he was older than 65!

PaulaGarlic wrote:
> "Mpoconnor7" > wrote
>
>
>>I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>>
>>Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>
>
> You beat me to it - I was just going to post this:
>
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._tv/obit_smith
>
> (for those of you who like the shorter URL - http://snipurl.com/7n9o)
>
> I know I've seen threads here in the past about whether he was alive or not.
> Guess this settles that.
>
> Paula
>
>

On 09 Jul 2004 22:04:25 GMT, ojunk
(Mpoconnor7) wrote:

> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.

From Comcast:

SEATTLE - Jeff Smith, a white-bearded minister who became
public television's popular "Frugal Gourmet" before a sex
scandal ruined his career, has died, his business manager
said Friday. He was 65.

Smith died in his sleep Wednesday, Jim Paddleford said. He
had long suffered from heart disease and had a valve
replaced in 1981.

<snip>

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or
redistributed.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Mpoconnor7 wrote:
> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>
Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
there was no food TV. He will be missed.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> there was no food TV. He will be missed.

By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also
>> a nice pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from
>> a number of books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the
>> accusations and frankly don't believe them; he was the precurser to
>> modern day television chefs when there was no food TV. He will be
>> missed.
>
> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
> gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>
> nancy

For one, me. I really enjoyed his shows, bought several of his
cookbooks, and base many dishes I make now on recipes and ideas he either
televised or published. I would watch his shows again were they
available. Although my cable system no longer caries FoodTV, I found it
left a lot to be desired.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:12:24 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> > pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> > books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> > don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> > there was no food TV. He will be missed.
>
> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
> gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>

I'm with Jill. I liked him up to the end and I'm not over
it yet. <sob> He was my last appt. tv for food shows.

Everyone since is only stumbled on by mistake (including
Martha in her heyday).


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:12:24 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and
>> also a nice > pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other
>> items from a number of > books. I have to say, I don't give a shit
>> about the accusations and frankly > don't believe them; he was the
>> precurser to modern day television chefs when > there was no food
>> TV. He will be missed.
>>
>> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would
>> have gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>>
>
> I'm with Jill. I liked him up to the end and I'm not over
> it yet. <sob> He was my last appt. tv for food shows.
>
> Everyone since is only stumbled on by mistake (including
> Martha in her heyday).
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

I have a personal letter from him. He wrote to me because I signed his web
site guest book and said how much I enjoyed the shows and his books. It was
nearly a year later, I went to the mailbox. What's this?! from the FRUG??
He told me he was in a wheelchair due to severe arthritis and would never
again be able to stand on a television set and cook like he used to.
Thanked me for my kind words and apologized for the late reply. Late
reply?? I never expected a reply!

Signing a guest book is also how I became email pen-pals with Scott McKenzie
(you may recall the song 'San Francisco'; as in, be sure to wear a flower in
your hair). Scott has a cat named Spider who occasionally sneaks onto his
computer and writes to my cat Persia. (Scott is a great guy with obviously
a great if rather warped sense of humour.) We correspond on a fairly
regular basis which still floors me.

Jill

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:36:05 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> Signing a guest book is also how I became email pen-pals with Scott McKenzie
> (you may recall the song 'San Francisco'; as in, be sure to wear a flower in
> your hair). Scott has a cat named Spider who occasionally sneaks onto his
> computer and writes to my cat Persia.

wow! way cool!


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:36:05 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> Signing a guest book is also how I became email pen-pals with Scott McKenzie
> (you may recall the song 'San Francisco'; as in, be sure to wear a flower in
> your hair). Scott has a cat named Spider who occasionally sneaks onto his
> computer and writes to my cat Persia.

wow! way cool!


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:12:24 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and
>> also a nice > pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other
>> items from a number of > books. I have to say, I don't give a shit
>> about the accusations and frankly > don't believe them; he was the
>> precurser to modern day television chefs when > there was no food
>> TV. He will be missed.
>>
>> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would
>> have gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>>
>
> I'm with Jill. I liked him up to the end and I'm not over
> it yet. <sob> He was my last appt. tv for food shows.
>
> Everyone since is only stumbled on by mistake (including
> Martha in her heyday).
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

I have a personal letter from him. He wrote to me because I signed his web
site guest book and said how much I enjoyed the shows and his books. It was
nearly a year later, I went to the mailbox. What's this?! from the FRUG??
He told me he was in a wheelchair due to severe arthritis and would never
again be able to stand on a television set and cook like he used to.
Thanked me for my kind words and apologized for the late reply. Late
reply?? I never expected a reply!

Signing a guest book is also how I became email pen-pals with Scott McKenzie
(you may recall the song 'San Francisco'; as in, be sure to wear a flower in
your hair). Scott has a cat named Spider who occasionally sneaks onto his
computer and writes to my cat Persia. (Scott is a great guy with obviously
a great if rather warped sense of humour.) We correspond on a fairly
regular basis which still floors me.

Jill

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:12:24 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> > pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> > books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> > don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> > there was no food TV. He will be missed.
>
> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
> gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>

I'm with Jill. I liked him up to the end and I'm not over
it yet. <sob> He was my last appt. tv for food shows.

Everyone since is only stumbled on by mistake (including
Martha in her heyday).


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also
>> a nice pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from
>> a number of books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the
>> accusations and frankly don't believe them; he was the precurser to
>> modern day television chefs when there was no food TV. He will be
>> missed.
>
> By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
> gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.
>
> nancy

For one, me. I really enjoyed his shows, bought several of his
cookbooks, and base many dishes I make now on recipes and ideas he either
televised or published. I would watch his shows again were they
available. Although my cable system no longer caries FoodTV, I found it
left a lot to be desired.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

I don't know about his private life, but his TV shows--especially the
early ones--really inspired me to "get into" cooking. And I still
regularly make several recipes from his original Frugal Gourmet
cookbook. Especially his fabulous Pot Roast With Dill Pickles; that
dish is heaven.

Leo

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:57:19 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>>
>> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>>
> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> there was no food TV. He will be missed.
>
> Jill

I agree that he will be missed. I also learned a great deal from both his
books and his TV shows. In fact I still have a large number of his shows
on video tape.

I don't know nor is it likely that anyone else in this group knows the
truth or lack of truth of the charges. I hope that they aren't true and
can envision circumstances where someone might have charged him with this
to get money from him.
--
JakeInHartsel

Food, The Art Form that You Can Eat

"Glenn Jacobs" wrote:
> I agree that he will be missed. I also learned a great deal from both his
> books and his TV shows. In fact I still have a large number of his shows
> on video tape.

I liked the guy too, but I admit I didn't give him regular attention until
my father started buying his books in '87. By that time, Dad was in the
final few years of a long terminal illness and unable to muster much
interest in anything until he happened on to The Frugal Gourmet. He was
energized by Smith's enthusiasm, and with that show Dad found that noodling
around in the kitchen was something he wanted to do.

I still watched Smith after Dad died in July of 1988, but was unable to
watch him anymore come '94 when I started working weekends exclusively
(Smith was on PBS on Saturday mornings only where I lived in those days). By
the time my Saturdays were free again, it was 1998 and Smith was up the
creek and off the air.


> I don't know nor is it likely that anyone else in this group knows the
> truth or lack of truth of the charges. I hope that they aren't true and
> can envision circumstances where someone might have charged him with this
> to get money from him.

Call me a fool, but I hope the same. Like I say now and have said before, I
liked the guy and the foods he presented -- though fiddle head ferns still
give me pause! And I'll always remember the effect he had on my father. I
know that the timing of his death is coincidence, but it is almost 16 years
to the day after my Dad's death. Dad spent the last 500 days of his life in
a blue chef's apron, sitting on a high stool at the kitchen counter when he
couldn't stand, working on ways to prepare the dishes he had eaten all his
life in new ways and contemplating how and where they originated. When he
was no longer interested in eating, he still strove to cook for others and
kept from drawing into himself through it. It wouldn't have happened that
way if it hadn't been for The Frugal Gourmet.

jmcquown wrote:

> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> there was no food TV. He will be missed.

By whom? If one was going to miss him, I would think they would have
gotten over it by now. He hasn't been on tv forever.

nancy

I don't know about his private life, but his TV shows--especially the
early ones--really inspired me to "get into" cooking. And I still
regularly make several recipes from his original Frugal Gourmet
cookbook. Especially his fabulous Pot Roast With Dill Pickles; that
dish is heaven.

Leo

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:57:19 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>>
>> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>>
> Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
> pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
> books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
> don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
> there was no food TV. He will be missed.
>
> Jill

I agree that he will be missed. I also learned a great deal from both his
books and his TV shows. In fact I still have a large number of his shows
on video tape.

I don't know nor is it likely that anyone else in this group knows the
truth or lack of truth of the charges. I hope that they aren't true and
can envision circumstances where someone might have charged him with this
to get money from him.
--
JakeInHartsel

Food, The Art Form that You Can Eat

"Mpoconnor7" > wrote

> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

You beat me to it - I was just going to post this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._tv/obit_smith

(for those of you who like the shorter URL - http://snipurl.com/7n9o)

I know I've seen threads here in the past about whether he was alive or not.
Guess this settles that.

Paula

On 09 Jul 2004 22:04:25 GMT, ojunk
(Mpoconnor7) wrote:

> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.

From Comcast:

SEATTLE - Jeff Smith, a white-bearded minister who became
public television's popular "Frugal Gourmet" before a sex
scandal ruined his career, has died, his business manager
said Friday. He was 65.

Smith died in his sleep Wednesday, Jim Paddleford said. He
had long suffered from heart disease and had a valve
replaced in 1981.

<snip>

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or
redistributed.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Mpoconnor7 wrote:
> I just heard it on the CBS hourly radio news.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>
Jefferson Smith taught me how to make a great spinach quiche and also a nice
pot roast with mushrooms in port and several other items from a number of
books. I have to say, I don't give a shit about the accusations and frankly
don't believe them; he was the precurser to modern day television chefs when
there was no food TV. He will be missed.

Jill