There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
dishes while cooking - and in fact, not even to retain heat after they
are removed from the oven or cooktop or microwave. The ubiquitous
aluminium oven baking sheet should be covered with cooking paper or
cooking cloth so that food is not in direct contact with the
aluminium.

There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
not a safe medium to cook with.

Cheers

Kim wrote in message ...
>There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
>using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
>given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
>utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
>dishes while cooking -

well, then, how do you suggest i cover my lasagna while it is cooking? i'm
all for using non-aluminum deodorants, and not *cooking* with aluminum pans,
but the occasional use of aluminum foil to cover a dish that is cooking
doesn't scare me.

--
saerah

TANSTAAFL

"jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine
meltin' in a pot of thieves
wild card up my sleeve
thick heart of stone
my sins my own
they belong to me, me

people say "beware!"
but I don't care
the words are just
rules and regulations to me, me"
- patti smith

Kim wrote:
> There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
> using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
> given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
> utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
> dishes while cooking - and in fact, not even to retain heat after they
> are removed from the oven or cooktop or microwave. The ubiquitous
> aluminium oven baking sheet should be covered with cooking paper or
> cooking cloth so that food is not in direct contact with the
> aluminium.
>
> There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
> lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
> restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
> not a safe medium to cook with.
>
> Cheers
>
>


Would care to share at least one recent reference? (you forgot to
mention aluminum-based antiperspirants)

Bob

Kim > wrote:

>There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
>using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
>given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
>utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
>dishes while cooking - and in fact, not even to retain heat after they
>are removed from the oven or cooktop or microwave. The ubiquitous
>aluminium oven baking sheet should be covered with cooking paper or
>cooking cloth so that food is not in direct contact with the
>aluminium.
>
>There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
>lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
>restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
>not a safe medium to cook with.
>
>Cheers

Please give at least one reliable scientific reference.

Ross.

OK, OK, let's relax about this. I have not had any answer to my query
that aluminium cookware seems to have virtually disappeared from our
shops. There are very very few aluminium pots, pans, frying pans,
roasting dishes around - mostly enamel cast iron, or teflon coated
whatever - and of course stainless steel. I possess an aluminium
Italian cooktop coffee pot which I use constantly, and I have one or
two old and very heavy aluminium saucepans. My oven baking sheets are
also aluminium. My main cooking saucepans are le Creuset and I have
a teflon-coated electric wok. I also use cast iron and ceramic
casserole dishes and lasagne dish. I don't think I have anything
aluminium for oven cookware except for the baking sheets.

I use aluminium foil and anti-persperant.

So I am not an anti-aluminium fanatic. I was intrigued listening to
this visiting American medical expert making what appeared to me to be
quite creditable statements about the danger of using aluminium for
cooking.

That's all - and other medical people here did not disagree with this
American doctor - but they did not heartily endorse him either.

I merely posted what I had heard and awaited the response. I am much
better informed now thanks - but really could do without being told I
am some dumbcluck who has a messed up mind over aluminium.

Cheers

Kim > wrote:
> So I am not an anti-aluminium fanatic. I was intrigued listening to
> this visiting American medical expert making what appeared to me to be
> quite creditable statements about the danger of using aluminium for
> cooking.

> That's all - and other medical people here did not disagree with this
> American doctor - but they did not heartily endorse him either.

Which was it, an "American medical expert" or a "doctor?" A person
could be one without being the other, and unfortunately there are
a lot of charlatans passing themselves off as experts in medicine
and health that are not at all reliable. Without knowing who this
particular person was, and his or her real credentials, it's hard
to tell if this was just some fringe player with an agenda, or
just a misguided but well meaning dupe.

If there was a sales pitch involved, don't believe anything you heard.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:29:35 +1200, Kim >
wrote:

>So I am not an anti-aluminium fanatic. I was intrigued listening to
>this visiting American medical expert making what appeared to me to be
>quite creditable statements about the danger of using aluminium for
>cooking.

How did you establish that he is an "expert?" You didn't even name
him.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Nuke the *** whales for Jesus" -- anon T-shirt

Kim > wrote:

> The person being interviewed was a guest speaker at an internatonal
> medical conference concerned with degenerative diseases in the
> elderly. I would have thought that medical conferences held under the
> auspices of international medical institutions would be enough.

Yes, one would hope that the conference invites speakers
with known credentials, but you did not tell us any of this
earlier, and there *are* a lot of crackpots and charlatans in
the world, and not all medical conferences are as good as
some others.

> Listen, I heard this interview on the radio. I listened to him being
> introduced as above, but I didn't rush round finding paper and pen to
> note down the guy's name - nor of those whose views were subsequently
> sought.

> To check on the veracity or credentials of the people interviewd do
> people in the US actually go to all this trouble?

No, unless interested in the specific subject, people in the US
would not bother checking out credentials of some supposed expert
they heard interviewed on the radio. But, there have been some
pretty famous hoaxes pulled on radio and TV news organizations.

Especially in regards to the aluminum cookware question, it is
best to be wary of scare mongers. Maybe the guy is legitmate and
correct, but the most current mainstream thinking in the medical
field is that aluminum cookware is not a health problem.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:29:14 +1200, Kim >
wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:06:26 -0500, zxcvbob >
>wrote:
>
>>Kim wrote:
>>> There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
>>> using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
>>> given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
>>> utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
>>> dishes while cooking - and in fact, not even to retain heat after they
>>> are removed from the oven or cooktop or microwave. The ubiquitous
>>> aluminium oven baking sheet should be covered with cooking paper or
>>> cooking cloth so that food is not in direct contact with the
>>> aluminium.
>>>
>>> There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
>>> lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
>>> restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
>>> not a safe medium to cook with.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>

Well then, perhaps we could start with the name of the US expert? Or
even the expert's profession, professional affiliation, or area of
expertise? Sadly, "health experts" could encompass anything from the
carcass inspector at a slaughter house through a researcher in some
related field to a scientist such as a chemist with precisely no
clinical experience. It is always possible, though not likely, that
the expert has graced some refereed journal with his opinions and/or
data. That would help others to evaluate these assertions.


>[...]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:29:14 +1200, Kim >
wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:06:26 -0500, zxcvbob >
>wrote:
>
>>Kim wrote:
>>> There has been much media attention here lately on the dangers of
>>> using aluminium for cooking (and even retaining heat). The advice
>>> given by the health experts is that aluminium pots and cooking
>>> utensils be discarded and that no aluminium foil be used to cover
>>> dishes while cooking - and in fact, not even to retain heat after they
>>> are removed from the oven or cooktop or microwave. The ubiquitous
>>> aluminium oven baking sheet should be covered with cooking paper or
>>> cooking cloth so that food is not in direct contact with the
>>> aluminium.
>>>
>>> There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
>>> lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
>>> restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
>>> not a safe medium to cook with.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>

Well then, perhaps we could start with the name of the US expert? Or
even the expert's profession, professional affiliation, or area of
expertise? Sadly, "health experts" could encompass anything from the
carcass inspector at a slaughter house through a researcher in some
related field to a scientist such as a chemist with precisely no
clinical experience. It is always possible, though not likely, that
the expert has graced some refereed journal with his opinions and/or
data. That would help others to evaluate these assertions.


>[...]

This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
>
> There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
> lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
> restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
> not a safe medium to cook with.
>

If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!

Frequently Asked Questions About Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)

What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical
compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen
Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the
unstable radical Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a
number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric
Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal
procedures and storage requirements, refer to the Material Safety Data
Sheet (MSDS) for Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Should I be concerned about Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Yes, you should be concerned about DHMO! Although the U.S. Government
and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) do not classify Dihydrogen
Monoxide as a toxic or carcinogenic substance (as it does with better
known chemicals such as hydrochloric acid and saccharine), DHMO is a
constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing
agents, environmental hazards and can even be lethal to humans in
quantities as small as a thimbleful.

For more information about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide, and
information about the conspiracies to cover up its hazards, look at
http://www.dhmo.org

It's a real eye opener.





--
CM Bellers

To email, remove your pants and have at it.

This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
>
> There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
> lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
> restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
> not a safe medium to cook with.
>

If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!

Frequently Asked Questions About Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)

What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical
compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen
Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the
unstable radical Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a
number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric
Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal
procedures and storage requirements, refer to the Material Safety Data
Sheet (MSDS) for Dihydrogen Monoxide.

Should I be concerned about Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Yes, you should be concerned about DHMO! Although the U.S. Government
and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) do not classify Dihydrogen
Monoxide as a toxic or carcinogenic substance (as it does with better
known chemicals such as hydrochloric acid and saccharine), DHMO is a
constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing
agents, environmental hazards and can even be lethal to humans in
quantities as small as a thimbleful.

For more information about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide, and
information about the conspiracies to cover up its hazards, look at
http://www.dhmo.org

It's a real eye opener.





--
CM Bellers

To email, remove your pants and have at it.

"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
m...
> This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
> >
> > There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
> > lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
> > restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
> > not a safe medium to cook with.
> >
>
> If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
> consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
>

<snipped>

Sorry, but after approximately 7 billion postings a ban has been placed on
the dihydrogen monoxide thing.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
m...
> This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
> >
> > There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
> > lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
> > restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
> > not a safe medium to cook with.
> >
>
> If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
> consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
>

<snipped>

Sorry, but after approximately 7 billion postings a ban has been placed on
the dihydrogen monoxide thing.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
>>
>>>There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
>>>lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
>>>restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
>>>not a safe medium to cook with.
>>>
>>If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
>>consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
>>
> <snipped>
>
> Sorry, but after approximately 7 billion postings a ban has been placed on
> the dihydrogen monoxide thing.

Next you're gonna say we can't talk about the Neiman-Marcus cookie
thing. Hmmmph. Net nanny...

Pastorio

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>This one time at band camp, Kim > wrote:
>>
>>>There have been a number of medical experts speaking about this danger
>>>lately - so many in fact that despite assertions that large numbers of
>>>restaurants (presumably in the USA) are still using aluminium, it is
>>>not a safe medium to cook with.
>>>
>>If you think this is bad, you should read about the lethal dangers of
>>consuming DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
>>
> <snipped>
>
> Sorry, but after approximately 7 billion postings a ban has been placed on
> the dihydrogen monoxide thing.

Next you're gonna say we can't talk about the Neiman-Marcus cookie
thing. Hmmmph. Net nanny...

Pastorio

On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
>> m...

I'll just scooch in here for a sec:

The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.

Carry on.

nb

On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
>> m...

I'll just scooch in here for a sec:

The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.

Carry on.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > Peter Aitken wrote:
> >> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> >> m...
>
> I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
>
> The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
>
> Carry on.

ROTFL!
If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
elements have names ending in '-ium'.
However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.

Carry on

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:42:34 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
>> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
>>> m...
>
>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
>
>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
>
>Carry on.
>
>nb

Hey Nb,

This might help to clarify:

http://www.world-aluminium.org/

All the best,

--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

On 2004-08-24, Arri London > wrote:

> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:

I flunked chemistry the first time.

nb

On 2004-08-24, Arri London > wrote:

> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:

I flunked chemistry the first time.

nb

In article >,
Kenneth > wrote:

> This might help to clarify:
>
> http://www.world-aluminium.org/

More specifically,

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/language.html

I like the original name, ALUMIUM, even better than the other two
prounounciationisms.

--
Julian Vrieslander

In article >,
Kenneth > wrote:

> This might help to clarify:
>
> http://www.world-aluminium.org/

More specifically,

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/language.html

I like the original name, ALUMIUM, even better than the other two
prounounciationisms.

--
Julian Vrieslander

Arri London > wrote in message >...
> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > > Peter Aitken wrote:
> > >> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > >> m...
> >
> > I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> >
> > The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> >
> > Carry on.
>
> ROTFL!
> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.

Good.
Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?




>
> Carry on

Arri London > wrote in message >...
> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > > Peter Aitken wrote:
> > >> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > >> m...
> >
> > I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> >
> > The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> >
> > Carry on.
>
> ROTFL!
> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.

Good.
Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?




>
> Carry on

Tony Lew wrote:

> Arri London > wrote in message >...
>
>>notbob wrote:
>>
>>>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
gy.com...
>>>
>>>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
>>>
>>>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
>>>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
>>>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
>>>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
>>>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
>>>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
>>>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
>>>
>>>Carry on.
>>
>>ROTFL!
>>If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
>>http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
>>elements have names ending in '-ium'.
>>However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
>>'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
>>pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
>
>
> Good.
> Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?

It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.

Pastorio

notbob > wrote in
news:uvPWc.38190$9d6.16881@attbi_s54:

> The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you
> Brits get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole
> freakin' extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee'
> thingie right out of thin air and stick it right in there without a by
> your leave. I mean, I can see spanner and bonnet and all those other
> creaky old terms, but this is just bizarre. Is it retribution for our
> taking the 'bore' out of [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand
> ...and now we're even.

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/language.html

I googled "aluminium pronunciation":

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...e=off&c2coff=1
&q=aluminium+pronunciation&btnG=Search

notbob > wrote in
news:uvPWc.38190$9d6.16881@attbi_s54:

> The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you
> Brits get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole
> freakin' extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee'
> thingie right out of thin air and stick it right in there without a by
> your leave. I mean, I can see spanner and bonnet and all those other
> creaky old terms, but this is just bizarre. Is it retribution for our
> taking the 'bore' out of [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand
> ...and now we're even.

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/language.html

I googled "aluminium pronunciation":

http://www.google.com/search?num=100...e=off&c2coff=1
&q=aluminium+pronunciation&btnG=Search

Tony Lew wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote in message >...
> > notbob wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > > > Peter Aitken wrote:
> > > >> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > > >> m...
> > >
> > > I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> > >
> > > The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > > get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > > extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > > of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > > can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > > just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > > [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> > >
> > > Carry on.
> >
> > ROTFL!
> > If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> > http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> > elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> > However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> > 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> > pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
>
> Good.
> Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?

It isn't. It's pronounced her-my-oh-nee. The phonetics you gave are also
Americanised; at least among the people I know.


>
> >
> > Carry on

Tony Lew wrote:
>
> Arri London > wrote in message >...
> > notbob wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > > > Peter Aitken wrote:
> > > >> "CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > > >> m...
> > >
> > > I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> > >
> > > The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > > get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > > extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > > of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > > can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > > just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > > [LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> > >
> > > Carry on.
> >
> > ROTFL!
> > If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> > http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> > elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> > However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> > 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> > pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
>
> Good.
> Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?

It isn't. It's pronounced her-my-oh-nee. The phonetics you gave are also
Americanised; at least among the people I know.


>
> >
> > Carry on

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message >...
> Tony Lew wrote:
>
> > Arri London > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>notbob wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> gy.com...
> >>>
> >>>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> >>>
> >>>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> >>>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> >>>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> >>>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> >>>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> >>>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> >>>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> >>>
> >>>Carry on.
> >>
> >>ROTFL!
> >>If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> >>http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> >>elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> >>However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> >>'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> >>pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
> >
> >
> > Good.
> > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
>
> It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.

So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?

>
> Pastorio

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message >...
> Tony Lew wrote:
>
> > Arri London > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>notbob wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> gy.com...
> >>>
> >>>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> >>>
> >>>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> >>>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> >>>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> >>>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> >>>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> >>>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> >>>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> >>>
> >>>Carry on.
> >>
> >>ROTFL!
> >>If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> >>http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> >>elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> >>However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> >>'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> >>pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
> >
> >
> > Good.
> > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
>
> It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.

So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?

>
> Pastorio

"Tony Lew" > wrote in message
om...
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
>...
> > Tony Lew wrote:
> > > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
> >
> > It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.
>
> So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?

It's been a while, but seems to me that Hermione was pronounced properly in
"Philosopher Stone". I haven't seen the other movies but part of the plot
in book 4 "Goblet of Fire" revolves around one of the characters (Victor
Krum) never pronouncing it correctly and Hermione trying to teach him. Did
Victor crop up in the 2nd & 3rd movies?

JK used that plot to teach readers how to pronounce it since that was one of
the most frequently asked questions.

Gabby

"Tony Lew" > wrote in message
om...
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
>...
> > Tony Lew wrote:
> > > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
> >
> > It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.
>
> So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?

It's been a while, but seems to me that Hermione was pronounced properly in
"Philosopher Stone". I haven't seen the other movies but part of the plot
in book 4 "Goblet of Fire" revolves around one of the characters (Victor
Krum) never pronouncing it correctly and Hermione trying to teach him. Did
Victor crop up in the 2nd & 3rd movies?

JK used that plot to teach readers how to pronounce it since that was one of
the most frequently asked questions.

Gabby

Tony Lew wrote:
>
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message >...
> > Tony Lew wrote:
> >
> > > Arri London > wrote in message >...
> > >
> > >>notbob wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > gy.com...
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> > >>>
> > >>>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > >>>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > >>>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > >>>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > >>>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > >>>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > >>>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> > >>>
> > >>>Carry on.
> > >>
> > >>ROTFL!
> > >>If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> > >>http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> > >>elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> > >>However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> > >>'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> > >>pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good.
> > > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
> >
> > It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.
>
> So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?


In my copies of the first two movies, it's pronounced her-my-oh-nee.
Perhaps you cannot hear all four syllables, particularly if you are
expecting three?

Tony Lew wrote:
>
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message >...
> > Tony Lew wrote:
> >
> > > Arri London > wrote in message >...
> > >
> > >>notbob wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>On 2004-08-24, Bob (this one) > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Peter Aitken wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>"CM Bellers" > wrote in message
> > gy.com...
> > >>>
> > >>>I'll just scooch in here for a sec:
> > >>>
> > >>>The only thing I'd like to know about aluminum is, how the heck do you Brits
> > >>>get [OWL-you-min-ee-um] out of a-l-u-m-i-n-u-m? That's a whole freakin'
> > >>>extra syllable, for chrissakes! You just grab that 'ee' thingie right out
> > >>>of thin air and stick it right in there without a by your leave. I mean, I
> > >>>can see spanner and bonnet and all those other creaky old terms, but this is
> > >>>just bizarre. Is it retribution for our taking the 'bore' out of
> > >>>[LAB-rih-tory]? If so, then I understand ...and now we're even.
> > >>>
> > >>>Carry on.
> > >>
> > >>ROTFL!
> > >>If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
> > >>http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
> > >>elements have names ending in '-ium'.
> > >>However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
> > >>'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
> > >>pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
> > >
> > >
> > > Good.
> > > Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?
> >
> > It isn't by anyone who actually speaks English. It's her-my-oh-nee.
>
> So no one in the Harry Potter movies speak English?


In my copies of the first two movies, it's pronounced her-my-oh-nee.
Perhaps you cannot hear all four syllables, particularly if you are
expecting three?

(SNIP)

>> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
>> http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
>> elements have names ending in '-ium'.
>> However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
>> 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
>> pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
>
>Good.
>Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?


And can you tell me why Americans drop the h in herbs and pronounce
the word erbs? And why the Catholic university of Notre Dame is
pronounced "Noter Dayme" thus absolutely wrecking its beautiful French
name?

One could go on, but it gets tedious.

Cheers

Daisy

(SNIP)

>> If one looks at the periodic chart of the elements:
>> http://www.webelements.com/, one instantly notices that the majority of
>> elements have names ending in '-ium'.
>> However, the American language has chosen to drop that in the case of
>> 'aluminium' in favour of 'aluminum'. In British English the
>> pronunciation of aluminium follows the correct spelling of aluminium.
>
>Good.
>Now can you explain why "Hermione" is pronounced her-MAI-nee ?


And can you tell me why Americans drop the h in herbs and pronounce
the word erbs? And why the Catholic university of Notre Dame is
pronounced "Noter Dayme" thus absolutely wrecking its beautiful French
name?

One could go on, but it gets tedious.

Cheers

Daisy

Daisy wrote:

> And can you tell me why Americans drop the h in herbs and pronounce
> the word erbs? And why the Catholic university of Notre Dame is
> pronounced "Noter Dayme" thus absolutely wrecking its beautiful French
> name?

Probably for the same reason the French don't pronounce the end of
many of their words.

nancy