Does anyone have complete instructions for Kaluaing a pig. please post here
or just email me at thanks

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:36:49 -0500, "RAY" >
wrote:

>Does anyone have complete instructions for Kaluaing a pig. please
post here
>or just email me at thanks
>

Do you mean, in an Imu (earth oven)?

Let me know as I could get you some information if you want to do an
authentic Hawaiian Kalua pig.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:17:36 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
.. .

>> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>
>Oh, Thunder, I did the whole pit in the ground thing one Thanksgiving
and
>vowed to never do it again! WOW, is that a major task! The pit was
dug,
>luckily, but we had to cut Kiawe wood, gather rocks, chop down banana
>trees - it's very very time consuming. All those guys that do this
daily
>for luau's are amazing, AFAIC. It was a whole night affair, only for
me to
>bring home 2 pork butts and 2 turkeys with no help from friends or my
now
>ex-husband. So I was forced to temporarily leave the food in the
back of my
>truck. I went out about 15 mins. later to see stray cats feasting on
my
>efforts. I was soooooo mad!
>
>You know what? I served it anyway. I was exhausted & had no help.
I made
>sure my now ex-husband got a piece that was nibbled on. he he he.
>
>kili

Yes it is a tremendous amount of work but.....in the Hawaiian spirit
"many hands make light (er) work"<g>. We have always had the young
guys dig the pit, which has been established for about 5 years. (We
just fill it in when we're pau.)

The last time, we found a fellow farmer with lots of cut ohia (blow
down) he didn't want. Got the main rocks about 2 years ago from
Pebble Beach, here in South Kona, many people contributed Ti leaves
and we had some young banana trees. Then we bought a dressed pig from
a pig farmer, put the whole thing together and covered it up--mostly
the men and boys at about 10 or 11 pm. Then the next morning early
about 7 am, they took it out and we women stripped it all. It was so
awesome. We did the last Imu in January for a baby's first birthday.
Was so nice.The turkeys come out so yummy too.

I once did this Imu in Vermont with some fellow Hawaiians during
college days. Some of the rocks had too much moisture so some
exploded. That was scary. But eventually we dug out the pig and even
smelled natural gas too<g>.(Didn't know anything about natural gas.)
We were young and very lucky. All the Vermonters who came to our
luau, LOVED the pig. I bet they remember the Imu and the Kalua pig
until this day!

With aloha,
Thunder

http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

You have 3 options:

1) Dig an imu and go for the real thing - very challenging but very
rewarding as well

2) Get a BBQ pit and follow recipes for pulled pork (smoke a pork shoulder
until the meat just falls apart) - season the meat with sea salt, especially
Hawaiian sea salt. You can do this with any covered BBQ, but it does take a
while; I cook 9 lb pork butts for about 12 hrs or so.

3) Slow roast a pork shoulder in the oven at 250-275° to an internal temp of
195-200° (same as pulled pork). It will take about 1 1/2 hrs per lb. You
can use some Liquid Smoke if you want that flavor. This is basically what
restaurants do, although they probably use a hotter temp and less time. And
they sauté some cabbage to serve with the pork.

In all 3 cases, roast some yams along with the meat.

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Living la vida loca at N37° 43' 7.9" W122° 8' 42.8"


"RAY" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone have complete instructions for Kaluaing a pig. please post
here
> or just email me at thanks
>
>

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:36:49 -0500, RAY wrote:

> Does anyone have complete instructions for Kaluaing a pig. please post here
> or just email me at thanks

It's been three years, it seems to me not unreasonable to repost this.
I used to do an annual pig roast for the labor day motorcycle races
in Spokane, before the party got too big and the host opted out.


You'll need a pig. I'd recommend sixty to eighty pounds for your first.

You'll need banana leaves. Since you're asking this question, I presume
that you don't live where you could just cut your own tree or two.
Banana leaves are available frozen in most asian markets.

You'll need a hole eight inches longer, wider, and deeper than your pig.
Ideally, draft someone young and healthy to dig the hole.

You'll need enough rocks to cover the bottom of the hole. Best is porous
lava rocks the size of cannonballs (six pounders (4 to 6 inches in
diameter) if you can get them. The porosity is supposed to help in some
way I haven't determined, and lava rocks aren't likely to explode when you
heat them. If you absolutely can't get lava rocks, you'll want to cover
the pit with a sturdy grate or thick wire mesh while you're heating. The
shrapnel is quite sharp, and a four inch rock will throw it a few dozen feet.

I strongly recommend either a sheet of plywood (at least 1/2") or a thick,
well laundered, sacrificial sheet (I've never done that, but my mentor
has). More banana leaves are traditional, but are only fair at keeping the
dirt off the pig.

You'll need chicken wire to wrap the pig. Not galvanized fencing, real
chicken wire, which is non-fatal to warm blooded animals. The chicken
wire isn't mandatory, but it'll make your job a LOT easier.

You'll need about one and a half pitsful of hardwood in three to five inch
thicknesses (or whatever will burn to scattered coals in a few hours) plus
enough kindling to make an easy starting fire.

You'll need welding gloves to handle the rocks and the hot pig. They'll
also help handling the chicken wire.

You'll need wire (soft iron picture wire or stainless, you need to know
what it is and where it's been before you put it in your food) and wire
clippers and pliers for tying the chicken wire.

You'll need a serving table that you don't mind getting pig juice all
over.

You'll need thwacking and carving knives, and a cutting board or two. I
use a pair of well-sterilized pruning shears to clip the ribs free.

You'll want a carving assistant, to thwack the pig into big pieces, which
you'll then hunk into serving sizes. (I've heard that when it's Done
Right, the pig can be served with a spoon. You'll still want to break it
down into big pieces that you can hack into serving sizes.)

You'll want a couple of garbage cans or boxes lined with tough plastic
bags for the pig fat and bone, which you'll place convenient to the
serving table before you start dismantling the pig.

For your peace of mind, I would recommend having a standby gas grill and
grilling crew in case of emergencies. You can thwack half-cooked pork into
fast-cooking two inch thick lumps and grill them fast enough to keep the
crowd from turning ugly (been there, done that, but not when _I_ was
cooking).


Lay chickenwire longer than the pig, and wide enough to wrap the pig, on a
washable table that you don't mind if you scratch. If that takes several
pieces of chicken wire, tie them together really well (you and a friend
will be picking up hot limp pig with the chicken wire. You don't want it
to fall apart). Cover the chicken wire with banana leaves, place the pig
face up on the banana leaves.

Slash each of the major joints ('armpits', left and right groin) deeply.
Later, you'll slip a rock into each of the slashes, to help the heat
penetrate the meatiest bits.

I rub the interior of the pig with a sludge of pulped onion and garlic,
olive oil, some whiskey to help it penetrate, salt, and Penzey's jerk.
Except for the cavity, the pig doesn't have much edible surface area, so
the strong spicing is reasonably safe. On the other hand, traditional
seasoning is just salt, and most of the pig is steamed in pork anyway.

Once seasoned, line the slashes and the upper part of the cavity (you'll
shove a rock in that later) with more leaves. Stack with ice bags and
cover with a tarpaulin 'til the pit is ready.

Absolute minimum cooking time is one hour plus three minutes a pound.
Longer will produce limper pig and reduce the risk of undercooking; I
fudge an hour onto the end of that. Add at least three hours for the wood
to burn down to calculate your latest tolerable start time. (That's for
apple and citrus wood. I suspect that oak could take quite a bit longer,
but I've never had the opportunity to try.)

Construct your fire. It's better to layer the rocks in the wood, but
sufficient to line the pit with them. Select four rocks (roughly
grapefruit sized for a smallish pig) for the joints, and a larger one to
fit into the top of the cavity. Put them where you can get to them easily.
Remember that the pit and the rocks will be HOT when you do that.

Light the fire. Poke it around to keep it burning well and evenly, add any
leftover wood where the fire looks weak. When the coals are nearly spent,
scatter them about thinly.

Lay the pig next to the pit. If you've opted for the plywood or sheet
method, lay it on that. Put on your welding gloves. Take the rocks you
identified for the purpose, slip them in to the joints, and the largest as
far up the body cavity as you can jam it. There will be a great deal of
steam, and the heat of the rocks will rapidly soak through the gloves, so
go carefully.

Tie up the chickenwire, drop the pig into the pit. Heap on more banana
leaves if you have them.

PLYWOOD:
lay an even 3" welt of dirt about 2" away from the edge of the pit, to act
as a gasket. Place the plywood on top, scoodge it around a little to get a
tight seal, and cover it six inches with dirt. If you see smoke coming out
anywhere, add more dirt.

When done, scrape off most of the dirt, pick the plywood up from one side
to remove the rest of the dirt. POOF! clean ready to serve pig, but it
lacks elegance. I go for ease over elegance.

SHEET:
Make sure that every exposed rock surface is covered with at least two
layers of banana leaf. Soak the sheet, shake it out, cover the pig. Bury
at least six inches.

When done, carefully remove the dirt down to the sheet, lift what's left
of the sheet off/ It will likely suffer some burn damage, so don't count
on it to hold together if you haven't cleared all the dirt.

TRADITIONAL:
Lay on _lots_ more banana leaves. The banana leaf layer must be dirt
proof. Then bury with all the dirt you took out of the hole.

When done, dig _very carefully_ down to the top layer of leaves, removing
as much as possible of the dirt. GENTLY pull the top leaves aside to
remove the last of the dirt. This isn't as easy as it sounds, the leaves
will have dried and shrunk from the heat. Dirt can be rinsed off before
carving, but it's not pretty.


Lift the pig onto the serving table, which you have wisely placed near the
pit. Snip the ties. (It is possible that letting the pig rest for ten to
twenty minutes would improve it.) Either roll the pig off the wire (hard,
but convenient) or roll and tuck the wire under the pig (easier). Begin
hacking up the upper half of the pig. I usually start with the foreshank
and shoulder, then the rear shank and butt. By that time I'm far enough
ahead, and the pig is cool enough, that I can take the time to snip off
the ribs and slice them apart, and peel out the loins (loin along the
backbone outside the ribs, tenderloin inside. The tenderloin will be the
most highly seasoned bit and the tenderest. Set aside your serving from
that.) When you've exhausted the top half, roll the pig over and start
again.

Do NOT carve the pig inside, or on or over anything you can't wash. If
properly cooked, the pig will be fat and tender and the juices will pour
off the table. Pork fat is hard to clean out of concrete. Prefer an area
of bark dust, accept lawn, or if you have to, lay down a large tarp.

Most of all, Don't Panic.

Martin
--
Martin Golding DoD #236 | Oculis exciditis porcus dimidius facti
| (When the eyes drop out, the pig is half done.)

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:

How are these pronounced?
u = oo as in moo?

> pau
pa-oo?

> imu
im-oo?

TIA



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:
>
>How are these pronounced?
>u = oo as in moo?
>
>> pau
>pa-oo?
>
>> imu
>im-oo?
>
>TIA
>
>
>
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments


Kind of depends.


pau is pronounced <pow>
imu is pronounced <e-moo>

Happy to help.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:
>
>How are these pronounced?
>u = oo as in moo?
>
>> pau
>pa-oo?
>
>> imu
>im-oo?
>
>TIA
>
>
>
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments


Kind of depends.


pau is pronounced <pow>
imu is pronounced <e-moo>

Happy to help.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> > wrote:
> >
> >How are these pronounced?
> >u = oo as in moo?
> >
> >> pau
> >pa-oo?
> >
> >> imu
> >im-oo?
> >
> >TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
>
> Kind of depends.
>
>
> pau is pronounced <pow>
> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>
> Happy to help.
>
> aloha,
> Thunder
> http://www.smithfarms.com
> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u, originally
which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but that's
what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.

kili
--
I do not live in the world of sobriety. - - Oliver Reed

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> > wrote:
> >
> >How are these pronounced?
> >u = oo as in moo?
> >
> >> pau
> >pa-oo?
> >
> >> imu
> >im-oo?
> >
> >TIA
> >
> >
> >
> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
>
> Kind of depends.
>
>
> pau is pronounced <pow>
> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>
> Happy to help.
>
> aloha,
> Thunder
> http://www.smithfarms.com
> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u, originally
which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but that's
what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.

kili
--
I do not live in the world of sobriety. - - Oliver Reed

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >How are these pronounced?
>> >u = oo as in moo?
>> >
>> >> pau
>> >pa-oo?
>> >
>> >> imu
>> >im-oo?
>> >
>> >TIA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>>
>>
>> Kind of depends.
>>
>>
>> pau is pronounced <pow>
>> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>>
>> Happy to help.
>>
>> aloha,
>> Thunder
>> http://www.smithfarms.com
>> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
>> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>
>Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u,
originally
>which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but
that's
>what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
>
>kili

pa'u is a word that has several meanings according to my Pukui/Elbert
dictionary
among them.....soot, smudge,moist, damp,
but the most common use of pa'u is the pa'u riders who sit side saddle
on horses and their long flowing skirts are called pa'u.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >How are these pronounced?
>> >u = oo as in moo?
>> >
>> >> pau
>> >pa-oo?
>> >
>> >> imu
>> >im-oo?
>> >
>> >TIA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>>
>>
>> Kind of depends.
>>
>>
>> pau is pronounced <pow>
>> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>>
>> Happy to help.
>>
>> aloha,
>> Thunder
>> http://www.smithfarms.com
>> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
>> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>
>Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u,
originally
>which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but
that's
>what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
>
>kili

pa'u is a word that has several meanings according to my Pukui/Elbert
dictionary
among them.....soot, smudge,moist, damp,
but the most common use of pa'u is the pa'u riders who sit side saddle
on horses and their long flowing skirts are called pa'u.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:23:26 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:

> pau is pronounced <pow>
> imu is pronounced <e-moo>

LOL!
I resisted the temtation to pronounce them that way.





Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:23:26 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:

> pau is pronounced <pow>
> imu is pronounced <e-moo>

LOL!
I resisted the temtation to pronounce them that way.





Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

> "smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Kind of depends.
> >
> >
> > pau is pronounced <pow>
> > imu is pronounced <e-moo>
> >
> > Happy to help.
> >
> > aloha,
> > Thunder
> > http://www.smithfarms.com
> > Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> > Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>
> Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u, originally
> which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but that's
> what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
>

In my seach tonight, I discovered that pau and pa'u are two
completely different words.

pa'u is a woman's skirt
pau means finished or done

I guess it's like the difference between red and read (past
tense of course). <s>

According to
http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/o-pronunciation.html#a

pau is pronounced (like you said): pah-oo
imu is pronounced (like Thunder said) ee-moo

So if what Thunder says how to pronounce pau is true, have
haoles had a huge impact on the pronunciation of traditional
Hawaiian words? We're 50-50 at this point.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:

> "smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Kind of depends.
> >
> >
> > pau is pronounced <pow>
> > imu is pronounced <e-moo>
> >
> > Happy to help.
> >
> > aloha,
> > Thunder
> > http://www.smithfarms.com
> > Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> > Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>
> Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u, originally
> which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but that's
> what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
>

In my seach tonight, I discovered that pau and pa'u are two
completely different words.

pa'u is a woman's skirt
pau means finished or done

I guess it's like the difference between red and read (past
tense of course). <s>

According to
http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/o-pronunciation.html#a

pau is pronounced (like you said): pah-oo
imu is pronounced (like Thunder said) ee-moo

So if what Thunder says how to pronounce pau is true, have
haoles had a huge impact on the pronunciation of traditional
Hawaiian words? We're 50-50 at this point.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:04:13 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote:
>
>> "smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Kind of depends.
>> >
>> >
>> > pau is pronounced <pow>
>> > imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>> >
>> > Happy to help.
>> >
>> > aloha,
>> > Thunder
>> > http://www.smithfarms.com
>> > Farmers & Sellers of 100%
>> > Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
>>
>> Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u,
originally
>> which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but
that's
>> what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
>>
>
>In my seach tonight, I discovered that pau and pa'u are two
>completely different words.
>
>pa'u is a woman's skirt
>pau means finished or done
>
>I guess it's like the difference between red and read (past
>tense of course). <s>
>
>According to
>http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/o-pronunciation.html#a
>
>pau is pronounced (like you said): pah-oo
>imu is pronounced (like Thunder said) ee-moo
>
>So if what Thunder says how to pronounce pau is true, have
>haoles had a huge impact on the pronunciation of traditional
>Hawaiian words? We're 50-50 at this point.
>
>
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments

I am correct in my pronunciation. Pau is pronounced "pow" and Pa'u is
pah-oo.

They are 2 separate words pronounced differently. Hawaiians had no
written language before the missionaries. It was all in the
pronunciation.

aloha,
Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:23:44 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:23:26 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:
>
>> pau is pronounced <pow>
>> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
>
>LOL!
>I resisted the temtation to pronounce them that way.
>
>
>
>
>
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Why? It's correct.

Hawaiian is a melodic language.


aloha,

Thunder
http://www.smithfarms.com
Farmers & Sellers of 100%
Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
> >"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >How are these pronounced?
> >> >u = oo as in moo?
> >> >
> >> >> pau
> >> >pa-oo?
> >> >
> >> >> imu
> >> >im-oo?
> >> >
> >> >TIA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind of depends.
> >>
> >>
> >> pau is pronounced <pow>
> >> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
> >>
> >> Happy to help.
> >>
> >> aloha,
> >> Thunder
> >> http://www.smithfarms.com
> >> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> >> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
> >
> >Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u,
> originally
> >which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but
> that's
> >what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
> >
> >kili
>
> pa'u is a word that has several meanings according to my Pukui/Elbert
> dictionary
> among them.....soot, smudge,moist, damp,
> but the most common use of pa'u is the pa'u riders who sit side saddle
> on horses and their long flowing skirts are called pa'u.
>
> aloha,
> Thunder
> http://www.smithfarms.com
> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

I stand (well, er, sit) corrected! Thanks!

kili

"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:36:59 GMT, "kilikini"
> > wrote:
>
> >"smithfarms pure kona" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:05:00 GMT, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 01:06:48 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >How are these pronounced?
> >> >u = oo as in moo?
> >> >
> >> >> pau
> >> >pa-oo?
> >> >
> >> >> imu
> >> >im-oo?
> >> >
> >> >TIA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind of depends.
> >>
> >>
> >> pau is pronounced <pow>
> >> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
> >>
> >> Happy to help.
> >>
> >> aloha,
> >> Thunder
> >> http://www.smithfarms.com
> >> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> >> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff
> >
> >Actually, I think pau (now pronounced POW) was actually pa'u,
> originally
> >which would make the pronounciation PAH oo. I could be wrong, but
> that's
> >what I've heard from Hawaiian linguists.
> >
> >kili
>
> pa'u is a word that has several meanings according to my Pukui/Elbert
> dictionary
> among them.....soot, smudge,moist, damp,
> but the most common use of pa'u is the pa'u riders who sit side saddle
> on horses and their long flowing skirts are called pa'u.
>
> aloha,
> Thunder
> http://www.smithfarms.com
> Farmers & Sellers of 100%
> Kona Coffee & other Great Stuff

I stand (well, er, sit) corrected! Thanks!

kili

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:01:33 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 05:23:44 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:23:26 GMT, smithfarms pure kona
> > wrote:
> >
> >> pau is pronounced <pow>
> >> imu is pronounced <e-moo>
> >
> >LOL!
> >I resisted the temtation to pronounce them that way.
> >
> >
> >
> >Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
> Why? It's correct.
>
> Hawaiian is a melodic language.
>
It was one of "that's too easy to be correct" reactions.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Is that the same as making sure you have comdom mints if you eat out?

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 04:20:04 GMT, "zuuum"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
> Is that the same as making sure you have comdom mints if you eat out?
>

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Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 04:20:04 GMT, "zuuum"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>
> Is that the same as making sure you have comdom mints if you eat out?
>

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Practice safe eating - always use condiments