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Dave Hill
 
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I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.

My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's going
to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more folks. The
invitations will specify that it is to be potluck style. My parents live in
a small community where potlucks are perfectly acceptable and fun.

1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents live.
Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them would probably
like to come to such an event. (Most of them will know about it afterwards,
and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open" invitation
at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that. But
we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
"open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??

2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what would
you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
would you handle something like that?

3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have dinners
like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and side
dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what is
an inexpensive way to go about this?

4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
I'm a newbie.

I guess my basic questions a

Is it okay to have a potluck, but we supply the meat?

Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food? What
if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?

What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!

David




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"Dave Hill" > wrote in message
...

> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
> isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what

would
> you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
> would you handle something like that?


Depending on how many of the total this would be, it probably won't have
much of an impact. Most pot-luck dishes end up with plenty left-over that
the owner takes back home anyway. But if these people do want to
contribute, local super markets and delis will have ready-made dishes they
could bring, or boxed cookies, crackers, chips, etc.


>
> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have

dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and

side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what

is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?


Our company picnic is exactly like that. The invitation states exactly what
will be provided (steaks and hamburgers provided) so that if someone wants
to bring chicken they can, for example.


>
> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told

you
> I'm a newbie.


On the invitation you could state "alcohol allowed - bring your own
preferred beverages. Soft drinks will be provided for those who prefer...."


>
> I guess my basic questions a
>
> Is it okay to have a potluck, but we supply the meat?


I would say yes.


>
> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food? What
> if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


With as may participants as you are suggesting, I'd say that wouldn't be a
concern. However, you could also suggest that, for example, if your last
name starts with A-L, please bring a salad or side dish; M-Z please bring a
dessert.


>
> What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
> and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!
>
> David
>


Good luck!! And have fun.


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I've seen where you could post something but say, "If your name starts with
A-L, please bring a salad. If is starts with M-R, please bring a dessert, S-Z
brings soda". Etc. For out of town guests, things like brownies would last a
couple of hours in a car.
I'd have an RSVP so I know how many to expect. I'd also provide the meats.
Personally, I'd forget mixed drinks...so for beer, alchoholic (or not) punch.
Something that serves a lot.
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Dave Hill wrote:

> My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's

going
> to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more folks. The


First of all, congratulations to your father for having such a long life
(and many more birthdays to come!) and also for having such sweet kids
who will plan a big bash for him!

> and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open"

invitation
> at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do

that. But

If it's normal (and you don't worry about weirdos showing up), then why
not? I think RSVP is a good idea - although with an open invitation, I
would think that many would come w/o having told you in advance?

> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously


They can bring napkins, tablecloths, plasticware, that sort of thing.
Many desserts are easily portable. Could you have a few microwaves (or
a conventional oven?) available to heat things up?

> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have

dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads

and side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And

what is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?


Just say on the invite what you want people to bring. It's your party,
right? The alphabetical idea suggested by others is right on target.

Meat is expensive. Meat for several hundred adults can really be
expensive. Go to SAM's or Costco or another warehouse to get a bit of a
discount. Maybe your local grocery butcher can give you a discount,
too? Doesn't hurt to ask.

> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.


Alcohol is also expensive. Why not have it BYOB? Or provide beer,
wine, and an alcoholic punch - but forget cocktails. It's too fussy to
make (unless you have a dedicated bartender friend who will help out).

If the community center doesn't provide this service, I would also
suggest that you rope in at least 10 good friends who will help in the
food prep, event set up, and event clean up. As a grad student, I've
"catered" bbq dinners for about 150 people - and I typically had a group
of at least 15 people helping me.

Some add'l thoughts:
- Things that require lots of "muscle" - food shopping, cutting up meat
(ie cubing chicken breasts for skewers), setting up tables and chairs,
cooking, etc.

- Whatever meat dishes you are preparing, try to have it in a form that
doesn't require a knife. Plastic knives usually are terrible for
cutting meat. Burgers, dawgs, chicken parts, kebabs, these are all good.

- Make what you can the day or two before, you can just heat it up
before the party.

- Set up warming trays w/sternos to help keep the food warm - with so
many people, it will probably take an hour or more for everyone to get a
plate of food.

- Have snack food and beer/wine set up before people arrive - chips/dip,
veggies, fruit - for people who arrive early, for socializing before the
meal, for munching while they wait for the food line to diminish, etc.

- With that many people coming, you are sure to have a few vegetarians
in the bunch. It's helpful to have a variety of entrees that they can
eat. Pasta dishes (think baked ziti) are easy to prepare in large volume.

- If you're going to have a speech, set up a microphone so the speaker
can be heard over hundreds of whispering voices.

- Set up a few party cameras for guests to take photos (but stick a
label or something on the camera body so guests know not to take the
camera home with them!). Have someone not intimately involved with food
or party prep around to take photos (before, during, and after the
party). Try to have photos of everyone who is there! And if you can,
put them up on the web afterwards for all to enjoy.

- Don't skimp on the disposable plates. Get the ones that are plastic
(recyclable), or very heavy paper. In a typical buffet, every adult
will use at least 2 plates for entrees.

- Have coffee and tea available with dessert. If the center has them,
borrow the really big coffee percolator urns so you can just set it up
and forget about it.

And most importantly - relax and have fun! This sounds like an awesome
party.

June

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The question about how to handle invitations is a regional thing. Where
I come from, posting an open invitation would be bad form, but I can see
that if you live in a small town where such things are done all the
time, there's nothing wrong with it. I can not imagine an RSVP working
under those circumstances though you can certainly post a phone number
and try.


Since this is a small town where everyone knows everyone else, your best
bet is to handle the RSVPs informally. Start with a big list of
everyone you think might like to attend. Post your invitation. Every
small town has a few people who know everyone else and see them often.
That might be the clerk in the grocery store or the mail deliverer or
the mayor or just some retired friendly person that everyone likes. Ask
your parents for the names of those people. Then keep in contact with
them. They'll know who is planning to come and can probably provide you
with a fairly accurate count.

For the out of town guests, just skip the pot luck aspect of the
invitation. I attended a pot luck wedding where the in town guests all
brought dishes, and the out of towners simply didn't. Everyone will
understand that bringing food isn't a ticket to get in. For that
matter, some of your in town guests won't bring food either, and that
should be O.K. Some people don't like to cook or are terrible at it or
are elderly and arthritic and not up to it anymore. They could even be
cheap. If you're inviting the whole town, you can't very well tell
someone not to come or accept one excuse for not cooking and not
another. Me, I love pot lucks because I love to show off my cooking and
see people enjoy what I've made. Those are the people you want bringing
dishes.

People give potlucks all the time where the main course (meat) is
provided. On the invitation, say "Please bring a salad, side dish or
dessert to share. The main course meat will be provided." If you're
specific about what you're providing, your guests will have a better
idea of what side dish goes best with it. You could also say "if your
last name begins with A-I, bring dessert. If your last name begins with
J-Q, bring a salad. If your last name begins with R-Z, bring a hot side
dish."

The least expensive way to go about this would be to serve chicken.
Everyone loves chicken. It goes with everything, and it is the least
expensive meat in the grocery store. Not only that, if you barbecue it,
the chicken pieces can come off the grill hot and delicious for everyone
though you're serving a lot of people.

For the alcohol, decide on beer or champagne or wine or pina coladas or
whatever, but choose only one. Take the number of people you're
expecting to attend and figure one drink per person. A great many
attending an 80th birthday party won't want to drink at all so that
leaves 2 drinks for the others. In any case, that's the right amount of
alcohol. When you've served that amount, you're all out. That way, if
one person gets drunk (unlikely but be prepared), enough other people
are perfectly sober to handle the situation. You won't have a lot left
over that way. Don't ask others to bring alcohol. That's the one thing
you want control over. In fact, you don't absolutely need alcohol. The
emphasis here is on food and fun.

You probably don't need to worry about not having enough variety, but if
you think it might be a problem and don't go with the alphabet system
above, look around for the people (like me) who are glad to make
anything. Tell them informally that you'd like to tell them what to
bring a little later after you've asked what others are bringing.
People are generally glad to talk about their specialties. So if you
talk to 10 people who are happily bragging about how they make the best
apple pie, take note and then tell the others that you really need
vegetables.

My overall advice is to abandon the formal aspects that you'd expect for
a wedding. Be satisfied with a general idea of who is coming and what
they're bringing. Understand that a few people who didn't RSVP will
show up and few who did won't. Some people won't bring food. Others
will bring extra. No one will starve. It sounds like a fun party. I
wish I could be there.

--Lia




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"Dave Hill" > wrote in message
...
> I need some help with party planning.
>
> 1. Should I post an "open" invitation
> at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that.

But
> we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
> "open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??
>

You can do what every you please but most people don't bother to RSVP
unless they are attending a White House function -- sad but true. Since it
is a pot-luck it doesn't much matter as the food will be proportional to the
number of people who come. I would think that posting a general invitation
would reduce the number of RSVPs to near zero as no one will fell that
he/she has been officially invited.


> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
> isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what

would
> you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
> would you handle something like that?



One hundred miles is only about 90 to 120 minutes by car depending on
traffic and the type of roads used. Many items (cakes, pies, cookies,
bread, raw veggies, fruit, etc.) can be transported at room temperature.
Frankly, if you are having 100+ people, would you want them to all bring
things and then say: "I need you to put this in the oven at 375F for 18
minutes and then reduce the temperature to 325F and bake for an additional
12 minutes?" I would encourage everyone to bring food that could be served
at room temperature.


>
> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have

dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and

side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what

is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?



Yes, this is quite common to have someone supply the entree(s) and have
others supply the side dishes and desserts. One reason is listed above --
it can cause a logistical problem to have everyone arrive with things that
need to be heated or have 27 people looking for places to plug in crock
pots. Communicating is simple: "Please come to our pot luck birthday
party. We will supply the ham and turkey. Please bring a side dish, salad,
or dessert to share." To make things economical, you have to select less
expensive cuts of meat -- turkey, ground beef, pork loin and so on. You may
be able to get your grocer to discount the food if you buy in quantity and
explain that it is a quasi community event. Warehouse clubs can also be a
good source for discounts. Don't forget the glasses, plates, flatware,
tablecloths, napkins, decorations, coffee, tea, soda, water, bread/rolls,
butter, salt and pepper, condiments, ice, .... What about music and a PA
system? Will there be a huge birthday cake? Will someone be assigned to
take pictures?


>
> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told

you
> I'm a newbie.
>


Alcohol can add a big expense, logistical problems, and perhaps some
liability. You will have to assign someone to serve the alcohol as you will
be liable if minors consume alcohol at the even. Nothing sucks down the
cash like having an open, self-serve bar at a big event. Frankly, I would
either limit the alcohol to beer, or red and white wine. You can contact a
distributor or party store for the beer and wine. If you decide to sell the
beer (which would be tacky) you would have to get a permit. If it is going
to be an evening event with dancing, it might be acceptable to "bring your
own bottle." I would avoid alcohol if possible but you will have to take
into consideration the local culture and the exact nature of the event to
decide.






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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:46:58 -0600, "Dave Hill" >
wrote:

>I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
>I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.
>
>My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's going
>to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more folks. The
>invitations will specify that it is to be potluck style. My parents live in
>a small community where potlucks are perfectly acceptable and fun.
>
>1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents live.
>Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them would probably
>like to come to such an event. (Most of them will know about it afterwards,
>and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open" invitation
>at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that. But
>we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
>"open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??


You might ask about other townspeople's experience with open
invitations. That *does* seem to be the kindest way to avoid hurt
feelings. An RSVP phone # is an excellent idea, but as many
discussions here have shown, it will only give a vague number of those
who eventually show up. Some will say "yes" and not show; others won't
respond and appear with 5 out-of-town visitors in tow.
>
>2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
>isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what would
>you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
>would you handle something like that?


Again, I'd inquire locally. Perhaps a note about "distant guests may
prefer to feed the kitty for drinks, which would be welcome. In any
case, your presence is the important part."
>
>3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have dinners
>like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and side
>dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what is
>an inexpensive way to go about this?


Well, pot-luck is supposed to be exactly that. Many people have
'specialties' and might be irritated at being assigned a salad or
desert when their standby recipe is chicken casserole. It would
probably be a good idea to supply hot dogs for the kids, a (BIG) pot
of chile or something similar, and perhaps a ham and/or turkey as
backup. You *are* throwing this party, and expected to make a
significant contribution. You can't start organizing 100 guests as
your catering staff.
>
>4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
>near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
>But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
>supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
>I'm a newbie.


Forget mixed drinks. Collosally expensive and labor-intensive.
Depending on local tastes, a good supply of beer and perhaps some wine
should be adequate. Plenty of soft drinks (and ice and water and
coffee and cups) is the basic requirement.
>
>Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food? What
>if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


They won't. Again, if it's pot-luck with 100 people, both duplication
and variety can be expected. Few complain about an oversupply of
brownies.
>
>What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
>and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!


Make things as comfortable as possible. Be sure there are enough
plates, napkins, ice, serving implements, chairs, entertainment, and
bathroom facilities for a crowd. Use your hard liquor $$ to buy olives
and crackers and bread and cheese and mints -- the 'frills'. Thank and
compliment generously.
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"June Oshiro" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Hill wrote:
>


>
> > 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously

>
> They can bring napkins, tablecloths, plasticware, that sort of thing.
> Many desserts are easily portable. Could you have a few microwaves (or
> a conventional oven?) available to heat things up?


Do you really want Aunt Matilda from out-of-town to bring the tablecloths?
The room needs to be set up well ahead of time. If she is late because of a
flat tire, you would have a room full of people any maybe no flatware or
dishes. Microwaves generally pull from 800 to 1400 watts. I would check
with the facility manager before plugging in a bunch of microwaves. You
might have the rest of the party in the dark!


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Dave Hill > wrote:
> I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
> I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.


> My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's going
> to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more folks. The
> invitations will specify that it is to be potluck style. My parents live in
> a small community where potlucks are perfectly acceptable and fun.


> 1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents live.
> Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them would probably
> like to come to such an event. (Most of them will know about it afterwards,
> and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open" invitation
> at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that. But
> we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
> "open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??


How much space is available for this potluck? If the potluck dinner is being
held in the community where your father lives, you might want to touch base
with the leasing agent or someone else in the management office there to see
what they suggest. There might be a limit as to how many people can be in
the room where the party will be held at one time. The community's management
would probably also know what the SOP is for such events that are held there.

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I've thought of a few other ideas that make large pot lucks enjoyable.

Buy a bunch of those disposable cameras and spread them around the hall.
Each has a note attached saying that you hope people will take
pictures that will help your father remember the event. Give them the
location or the person they should return the cameras to. Then everyone
who enjoys taking pictures takes a few and puts the camera down to be
picked up by someone else. When they're done, you send them in for the
film to be developed. That's way nicer than having a professional
photographer who doesn't know everyone.

Make sure you have enough garbage cans. Funny but true. No one thinks
enough about garbage. You'll have napkins and paper plates and cups.
Garbage containers fill up quickly. Have people on hand willing to take
garbage out to the dumpster even in their nice clothes.

Can you hire servers and cleaners? I know this is a pot luck where
everyone is pitching in, but you'd be surprised at what doesn't get
done. Having a few people who are on hand to clean up spills and empty
garbage and clear away the empty dishes can be a huge help.


Also, there's a category of guest who isn't quite handicapped but who
needs help getting a chair or balancing a plate or getting through the
bathroom door. Think about that person's needs. The people who think
of themselves as handicapped usually have someone with them to help, but
the people who are getting on in years and are used to taking care of
themselves can find themselves in the embarrassing spot of not knowing
what to do when there's not a sturdy enough chair for them or no lap
board to serve as a table or no one to help in that strange public
bathroom. They feel all the more awkward asking for help from people
they know so having the hired help around, one male and one female, who
can help reach soap in the bathroom will do a lot to make your guests
feel welcome.

--Lia



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"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
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>



> Also, there's a category of guest who isn't quite handicapped but who
> needs help getting a chair or balancing a plate or getting through the
> bathroom door. ....... They feel all the more awkward asking for help

from people
> they know so having the hired help around, one male and one female, who
> can help reach soap in the bathroom will do a lot to make your guests
> feel welcome.


That certainly expands the concept of a 'pot" luck!


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Dave Hill wrote:

>
> I guess my basic questions a
>
> Is it okay to have a potluck, but we supply the meat?


Yes. But say barbecued chicken (or whatever) will be provided, rather than
"meat". Some folks will bring meatballs, or casseroles, or whatever.
Expect some of the out-of-towners to stop at KFC and bring a bucket of
chicken. Most of the rest will bring a desert, or something that can be
served cold.

> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food? What
> if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


If everybody brings pie, then you eat pie because that's obviously what
everybody wanted.

> What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
> and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!
>


I wouldn't serve cocktails. I probably would not serve alcohol at all, but
if I did it would be cans of beer on ice. If I had a little more control
over the guest list, I'd have a keg of beer and bottles of beer and wine
coolers on ice.

Best regards,
Bob

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It's your party, and you'll plan if you want to.

Sorry for the pun.

You can do whatever is best for all concerned. Providing the meat is
probably fine.
If you're planning the details for an undisclosed number of guests, it might
be best to throw a "we're thinking of having a party...would you attend?"
hypothetical out in the air.
Might even get some of the locals to offer to do spill-over cooking should
more arrive than expected.

If you have no clue who is coming, have them phone you. Without a head
count, could be a disaster should much more arrive than prepared for.
Having them call ahead to confirm is wise.

Also, as you can't always rely on the arrivals to prepare a good portion,
might also be a good idea to prepare a side or three yourself, just in case.



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"Dave Hill" > wrote in message >...
>> 1. Can you post an "open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??


Sure

> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
> isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what would
> you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
> would you handle something like that?


There are plenty of thing they could bring that would not be a
problem...desserts, for example
>
> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?


Fine--just say chicken and hambergers provided.
>
> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
> I'm a newbie.


My suggestion is to serve beer and wine--or no alcohol at all if
that's what you prefer.

>> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of

food? What
> if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


If 3/4 bring pie, you will have lots of different pies! It is one
meal--not a way of eating. For way too many years I have been involved
in potlucks and only once did everyone bring potato salad (summer
picnic). We thoroughly enjoyed sampling everybody's contribution.

Trust me, it won't happen!

There are no "requirements" here. Just do what will be most
comfortable for your family. And relax and celebrate with your Dad!

Congratulations!

JOW
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In article >, "Dave Hill"
> wrote:

> I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
> I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.


Wow! Lots of good advice in this thread.


> 1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents live.
> Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them would probably
> like to come to such an event. (Most of them will know about it afterwards,
> and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open" invitation
> at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that. But
> we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
> "open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??



I wouldn't post an RSVP number. People generally don't respond. On the
other hand, it would be nice to post a number to call for more
information.


> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
> isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what would
> you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
> would you handle something like that?



People are used to dealing with this. Salads and desserts can be at room
temperature or can be brought in a cooler. Be sure to set aside room for
coolers.


> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?



All the time. The last picnic I went to did this. There were about 150
people (and more dogs, because it was a greyhound picnic) and my sister
and I supplied the meat (she was reimbursed by the organization). She got
someone to bring his gas grill and do the cooking. We bought boxes of
hamburger patties and packs of hot dogs. Just specify on the invitation
what you are supplying.


> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
> I'm a newbie.



Cocktails aren't reasonable for a potluck. They are too labor intensive
and too expensive. I would limit it to beer, or just skip it. This is
another possibility for those out of towners. They can bring a cooler
with beer and ice.


> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food? What
> if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?



This is a personality thing. Some people get too nervous and need to have
some control and knowledge about what is coming. Others just think that
part of the thrill of a potluck is seeing what people end up bringing.


> What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
> and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!



Plan, plan, plan. Write lists of what you need. Set up early. Get help
for set up and clean up. Make sure you have tables and chairs. Have a
plan for the placement of the food and assign somebody to helping people
find the right place for their food. Think about the traffic flow for the
food. You might want to have lines on both sides of the table. Read all
the posts in this thread. Have fun.

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Dave Hill wrote:
>
> I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
> I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.
>
> My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's going
> to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more folks. The
> invitations will specify that it is to be potluck style. My parents live in
> a small community where potlucks are perfectly acceptable and fun.
>
> 1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents live.
> Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them would probably
> like to come to such an event. (Most of them will know about it afterwards,
> and I hate to have any hurt feelings). Should I post an "open" invitation
> at the bank or the grocery store or something? Lots of people do that. But
> we'd still like to know how many are going to show up. Can you post an
> "open" invitation with an RSVP number to call??


I don't see why not unless you think you might get
prank/crank phone calls. But if it's a small community
where everyone knows everyone pretty well then it's
probably a safe enough thing to do.

> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It obviously
> isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I mean, what would
> you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole dish in your lap? How
> would you handle something like that?


Well, I'm sure there will be enough to share that they
needn't bring anything but they could always bring
something portable like cookies or a cake or pie
or even a salad. I've gone to cook-ins with hot dishes
that were reheated when I got there. They can always
bring it in a cooler and reheat it. Or they can bring
wine or something along that line - a 12-pack of soda
or whatever. There plenty of things the out-of-towners
can bring if they're driving. If they're flying then
perhaps they can order something takeout - a pizza,
some Chinese food, etc. if they want to contribute.

> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have dinners
> like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are salads and side
> dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the invitation? And what is
> an inexpensive way to go about this?


Why can't you say just that? Something like, "Meat dishes will
be supplied by the host. Guests are requested to bring a side
dish, salad, or dessert."

> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
> I'm a newbie.


Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.
If you're having as many guests as you indicated you'd have
to put out quite a bundle for booze if you paid for it
yourself. I would think the cash bar is the way to go.
The soft drinks would be provided by you free in a separate
area and those who want alcohol could go to the bar and
pay for it.

> I guess my basic questions a
>
> Is it okay to have a potluck, but we supply the meat?


Certainly, whyever not?

> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food?

Well, if you've been to potlucks in the area you should
have an idea of what people usually bring. In my experience
people have their specialty dishes that they always take
to potlucks, but you could always ask then to rsvp as to
what they are bringing. That way if too many people are
bringing the same sort of thing you can steer them to
another type of dish. However, with a large crown I would
expect there to be a good variety without you're having
to tell people what to bring.

> What if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


Unlikely.

> What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any suggestions
> and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!


You could have a sign up sheet at the community center or
somewhere that people could sign up for the needed dishes.
You could list the types of dishes and how many you need
and they once that number of people signed up for that type
of dish the other would have to choose something different.

Kate

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Kate Connally wrote:

> > 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community center
> > near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be served there.
> > But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I mean, should we
> > supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type drinks? See, I told you
> > I'm a newbie.

>
> Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.
> If you're having as many guests as you indicated you'd have
> to put out quite a bundle for booze if you paid for it
> yourself. I would think the cash bar is the way to go.
> The soft drinks would be provided by you free in a separate
> area and those who want alcohol could go to the bar and
> pay for it.


I can't go for that. I would serve nonalcoholic drinks before asking
people to pull out the wallet at a party. No. I think beer and
carafes of wine at each table is a nice gesture. Of course soda,
like that.

Forget the mixed drinks.

nancy
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:59 GMT, "Vox Humana" >
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>Do you really want Aunt Matilda from out-of-town to bring the tablecloths?


I don't have an Aunt Matilda, but if I did, I imagine her choice would
be the cheapest and ugliest ones available. Being late for dinner
might be best <g>

Gar <---- eating with very dark glasses.
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Gar wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:59 GMT, "Vox Humana" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Do you really want Aunt Matilda from out-of-town to bring the tablecloths?

>
>
> I don't have an Aunt Matilda, but if I did, I imagine her choice would
> be the cheapest and ugliest ones available. Being late for dinner
> might be best <g>
>
> Gar <---- eating with very dark glasses.



Did she pay just a *little* bit extra to get the really ugly ones instead
of plain white or checked? If I had an Aunt Matilda, I know she would...

Best regards, ;-)
Bob



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>Gar wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:59 GMT, "Vox Humana" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Do you really want Aunt Matilda from out-of-town to bring the tablecloths?

>>
>>
>> I don't have an Aunt Matilda, but if I did, I imagine her choice would
>> be the cheapest and ugliest ones available. Being late for dinner
>> might be best <g>
>>
>> Gar <---- eating with very dark glasses.

>
>
>Did she pay just a *little* bit extra to get the really ugly ones instead
>of plain white or checked? If I had an Aunt Matilda, I know she would...
>
>Best regards, ;-)
>Bob
>

I really do have an Aunt Tillie, short for Matilda. She was "the cook" on my
father's side of the family. She made those beautiful and tasty cakes and
those sugar Easter eggs. We spent more holidays at her house than ours, as Mom
didn't cook as well. She is retired now, but she taught her middle son how to
make a Boston cream pie.


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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:46:58 -0600, "Dave Hill" >
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>4. What about alcohol?


Be sure to check into the laws on this. Yes, the facility might say
OK to alcohol, but if you are serving it, you might have to have a
permit from the state. Check with your local liquor store, they
should know.


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Kate Connally wrote:
>
> Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.


That's the beauty of usenet. You get lots of opinions, often
contradictory ones. Count me as one who hates the cash bar idea. I
have no objection to being invited over and asked to bring a dish. I
have huge objections to being invited to a social gathering and
discovering a business venture when I get there. When I'm at a party, I
don't expect to reach into my wallet to help the hosts with expenses.
If you can afford to serve liquor to your guests, go ahead and serve it.
If not, liquor is not a requirement.

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0500, Kate Connally >
wrote:

>Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.


Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
pita than the party itself.

Bar
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<Gar> wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0500, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
> >Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

>
> Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
> pita than the party itself.


If, as someone else suggested, there might be a number of guests who are
unable to use the restroom without assistance, I don't think that serving
liquor would be a good idea!!!




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In article >, "Dave Hill"
> wrote:

> I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some
> advice. I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a
> real newbie.
>
> My sister and I are having a party for my dad's 80th birthday. It's
> going to be a potluck dinner, because we plan to invite 100 or more
> folks. The invitations will specify that it is to be potluck style.
> My parents live in a small community where potlucks are perfectly
> acceptable and fun.
>
> 1. There are around 300 people in the small town where my parents
> live. Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of them know my dad, and a lot of them
> would probably like to come to such an event. (Most of them will
> know about it afterwards, and I hate to have any hurt feelings).
> Should I post an "open" invitation at the bank or the grocery store
> or something? Lots of people do that. But we'd still like to know
> how many are going to show up. Can you post an "open" invitation
> with an RSVP number to call??


Sure. You might even put a note on the invite poster that says
something like, "Please do let us know if you will attend so we can plan
accordingly."

> 2. A lot of the guests would be coming from out-of-town. It
> obviously isn't feasible that they bring a casserole or whatever--- I
> mean, what would you do, drive 100 miles with a steaming casserole
> dish in your lap? How would you handle something like that?


Ask them to bring the condiments and chips -- ask specifically if you
know who exactly is coming from out of town.

> 3. My sister has proposed that we supply the meat. Do people have
> dinners like that, potluck things where all the brought-in items are
> salads and side dishes and desserts? How would you say that on the
> invitation? And what is an inexpensive way to go about this?


It's your party; you know the atmosphere of Dad's community -- On the
invite you might say that the main course and bread (state it if you
wish -- or don't) will be provided, sides, salads, and desserts will be
potluck.
>
> 4. What about alcohol? The party will be at the local community
> center near where my parents live, and alcohol is permitted to be
> served there. But how do you actually handle the logistics of it? I
> mean, should we supply beer or---??? And what about cocktail-type
> drinks? See, I told you I'm a newbie.


Forget the mixed drinks. Can you get a few kegs of beer or a boatload
of bottles to be chilled in a couple big tubs of ice? Don't forget the
non-alcoholic beverages. If you get cases of beer in bottles, the
liquor store might let you return any excess -- check it out.
>
> I guess my basic questions a
>
> Is it okay to have a potluck, but we supply the meat?


Yup. A nice gesture, too.

> Is it risky or reasonable to expect there will be a variety of food?
> What if 3/4 of the people bring a pie?


It's reasonable that there will be variety and it's part of the fun of a
potluck. If 3/4 of the folks bring a pie, you'll have a lot of pie and
sugar highs. Could be worse at a birthday party. I like the randomness
and true potluck-ery of it all and wouldn't assigned categories to
people. But that's just me. If I specialize in dessert and suck at
salads, I'd hate to be forced to bring a crummy salad when I could have
brought tasty, oh, let's say brownies.
>
> What would be the best way to handle everything else? Any
> suggestions and/or advice would be *really* cool. Thanks!


Draft some friends or neighbors to serve as your kitchen crew so that
you can be The Genial Host and greet the folks and mingle. You need a
Field General in the kitchen, David. Best thing I ever did when I had
big parties for kids' graduations was have a couple friends do the
kitchen work -- they grilled and made sure the bowls were replenished
and full. I had a good time at the parties. :-)

See that hot foods are hot and cold foods are cold -- the community
doesn't need to remember the soirée for its outbreak of food poisoning
due to improper food handling.

So, where and when is this shindig? Sounds like a good time!

> David

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:45:39 -0600, zxcvbob >
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>> I don't have an Aunt Matilda, but if I did, I imagine her choice would
>> be the cheapest and ugliest ones available. Being late for dinner
>> might be best <g>
>>
>> Gar <---- eating with very dark glasses.

>
>
>Did she pay just a *little* bit extra to get the really ugly ones instead
>of plain white or checked? If I had an Aunt Matilda, I know she would...


My Grandmother was from the era I imagine Matilda was a popular name.
There was always a plastic red and white checked table cloth on the
old farmhouse kitchen table. For holidays she's put a "fancy" ugly
cloth one over it. The checked one was always larger than the cloth
one so it would show too. Looking at that and those awful blue
patterned plates was a disturbing combination even as a child. I
wonder if our children will think some of our things are offensive?
<g>

Gar
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:02:21 GMT, "Vox Humana" >
wrote:

>
><Gar> wrote in message ...
>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0500, Kate Connally >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

>>
>> Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
>> pita than the party itself.

>
>If, as someone else suggested, there might be a number of guests who are
>unable to use the restroom without assistance, I don't think that serving
>liquor would be a good idea!!!
>

I agree. Wheelchairs and cocktails don't mix. I knew someone who's
grandfather had a bad stroke. For holidays they would get him from
the nursing home. He loved to drink. If you turned your back on him
he'd scoot his wheelchair over and steal drinks. He'd wet his pants
shortly after. Pretty sad.

Gar
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Gar <> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:45:39 -0600, zxcvbob >
>wrote:
>
>
>>> I don't have an Aunt Matilda, but if I did, I imagine her choice would
>>> be the cheapest and ugliest ones available. Being late for dinner
>>> might be best <g>
>>>
>>> Gar <---- eating with very dark glasses.

>>
>>
>>Did she pay just a *little* bit extra to get the really ugly ones instead
>>of plain white or checked? If I had an Aunt Matilda, I know she would...

>
>My Grandmother was from the era I imagine Matilda was a popular name.
>There was always a plastic red and white checked table cloth on the
>old farmhouse kitchen table. For holidays she's put a "fancy" ugly
>cloth one over it. The checked one was always larger than the cloth
>one so it would show too. Looking at that and those awful blue
>patterned plates was a disturbing combination even as a child. I
>wonder if our children will think some of our things are offensive?
><g>
>
>Gar



Do you mean the checked tablecloths and blue & white dishes that sell
for a fortune in the antique and collectible stores?
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:23:51 -0500, The Cook >
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>Do you mean the checked tablecloths and blue & white dishes that sell
>for a fortune in the antique and collectible stores?


Exactly. I don't know what happened to her collection, but I'm sure
wherever it is, it's worth a bunch. She also had quite a few old
cookie jars. She was a horrible cook, so they always had store bought
cookies in them. We liked those and stayed clear of hers.

Gar


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On 2003-12-18, Dave Hill > wrote:
> I need some help with party planning, if anybody cares to offer some advice.
> I've never really done anything like this before, so I'm a real newbie.


Anything goes. That's the beauty of potluck. It doesn't hurt to
ask folks to commit to certain types of dishes, like a salad, a side,
a dessert, etc. This prevents everyone showing up with, say, jello.
About the only bad etiquette for potluck is showing up with bucket of
KFC, or a gallon carton of chow mein from Wun Hung Low. That's tacky.

nb
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Gar wrote:

> My Grandmother was from the era I imagine Matilda was a popular name.
> There was always a plastic red and white checked table cloth on the
> old farmhouse kitchen table. For holidays she's put a "fancy" ugly
> cloth one over it. The checked one was always larger than the cloth
> one so it would show too.


What is up with that?? I know exactly what you're talking about.
Like, nice Christmas table cloth (NOT and it's hideous even if it
didn't have every stain permanently embedded in it). Especially
not appreciated when it was brought to my house one Christmas, I
guess to cover up the nice tablecloth I'd set the table with.

> I
> wonder if our children will think some of our things are offensive?
> <g>


That's a funny thought. Well, I have thought about it and I say I
don't have anything any person with any taste whatsoever would
think ugly. (laugh)

nancy
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Kate Connally wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

>
> That's the beauty of usenet. You get lots of opinions, often
> contradictory ones. Count me as one who hates the cash bar idea. I
> have no objection to being invited over and asked to bring a dish. I
> have huge objections to being invited to a social gathering and
> discovering a business venture when I get there.


It's not a "business venture" but an accommodation to those
who would like hard liquor. There would be plenty of non-
alcoholic stuff free.

> When I'm at a party, I
> don't expect to reach into my wallet to help the hosts with expenses.


Well, it's a potluck, which is not the same as a regular
hosted party where the hosts provide everything.
A potluck is more of a communal gathering and everyone
contributes. The "hosts" would be responsible for organizing
it and providing a some of the food and all the accoutrements.

And the cash bar concept is that it's there for those who
want it and if you don't want to fork out money for liquor
you certainly can guzzle down the Coke or Sprite or lemonade
or whatever.

> If you can afford to serve liquor to your guests, go ahead and serve it.
> If not, liquor is not a requirement.


Exactly my point. Unless the "host" is wealthy, providing
liquor for that many people would be way too expensive.
But I don't see anything wrong with having a cash bar in
this instance, if there are enough people that they think
would really want alcohol. If it's a real teatotally town
then forget it.

Kate

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Until you bite their heads off.”
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Gar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0500, Kate Connally >
> wrote:
>
> >Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

>
> Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
> pita than the party itself.
>
> Bar


I don't know from legalities - I've never done it
myself - but I've been to plenty of places where it
has been done and have never heard of any "legalities".

I guess it would depend on the state and/or county you
live in.

Kate
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“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
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Vox Humana wrote:
>
> <Gar> wrote in message ...
> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:04 -0500, Kate Connally >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

> >
> > Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
> > pita than the party itself.

>
> If, as someone else suggested, there might be a number of guests who are
> unable to use the restroom without assistance, I don't think that serving
> liquor would be a good idea!!!


Sheesh - well, don't let 'em have any. ;-)

Kate
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In article >, Kate Connally >
wrote:

> Gar wrote:


> > Sorting through the legalities of this would probably be more of a
> > pita than the party itself.
> >
> > Bar

>
> I don't know from legalities - I've never done it
> myself - but I've been to plenty of places where it
> has been done and have never heard of any "legalities".
>
> I guess it would depend on the state and/or county you
> live in.



Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean that they didn't jump
through the hoops. This campus has a license to sell beer and wine at one
location. In the summer they have concerts on the lawn, and sell wine and
beer by the glass. They always get a separate license for that. I'm sure
that they never tell the guests that they got a separate license.

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Kate Connally > wrote:

> I don't know from legalities - I've never done it
> myself - but I've been to plenty of places where it
> has been done and have never heard of any "legalities".


> I guess it would depend on the state and/or county you
> live in.


In Pennsylvania, I believe there are legalities. When we
decided to rent a room at the Philadelphia Zoo for a big
party at work a few years ago, the only way we could serve
alcohol was to have a professional bartended who's bonded
and have insurance. It wasn't worth the effort, but the
people who rented us the party room insisted that this
was legally mandated. It also saves them from being sued
if someone at the party goes home drunk and gets in a
car accident on the way.

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> wrote in message ...
> Kate Connally > wrote:
>
> > I don't know from legalities - I've never done it
> > myself - but I've been to plenty of places where it
> > has been done and have never heard of any "legalities".

>
> > I guess it would depend on the state and/or county you
> > live in.

>
> In Pennsylvania, I believe there are legalities. When we
> decided to rent a room at the Philadelphia Zoo for a big
> party at work a few years ago, the only way we could serve
> alcohol was to have a professional bartended who's bonded
> and have insurance. It wasn't worth the effort, but the
> people who rented us the party room insisted that this
> was legally mandated. It also saves them from being sued
> if someone at the party goes home drunk and gets in a
> car accident on the way.


Same in Massachusetts. We had an at-home do with a caterer and part of the
charge included insurance for their bartender.

Felice


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-L.
 
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Kate Connally > wrote in message >...
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.

> >
> > That's the beauty of usenet. You get lots of opinions, often
> > contradictory ones. Count me as one who hates the cash bar idea. I
> > have no objection to being invited over and asked to bring a dish. I
> > have huge objections to being invited to a social gathering and
> > discovering a business venture when I get there.

>
> It's not a "business venture" but an accommodation to those
> who would like hard liquor. There would be plenty of non-
> alcoholic stuff free.
>
> > When I'm at a party, I
> > don't expect to reach into my wallet to help the hosts with expenses.

>
> Well, it's a potluck, which is not the same as a regular
> hosted party where the hosts provide everything.
> A potluck is more of a communal gathering and everyone
> contributes. The "hosts" would be responsible for organizing
> it and providing a some of the food and all the accoutrements.
>
> And the cash bar concept is that it's there for those who
> want it and if you don't want to fork out money for liquor
> you certainly can guzzle down the Coke or Sprite or lemonade
> or whatever.
>
> > If you can afford to serve liquor to your guests, go ahead and serve it.
> > If not, liquor is not a requirement.

>
> Exactly my point. Unless the "host" is wealthy, providing
> liquor for that many people would be way too expensive.
> But I don't see anything wrong with having a cash bar in
> this instance, if there are enough people that they think
> would really want alcohol.


Well, it is considered extremely poor etiquette (which is the title of
the thread, afterall...). Asking your guests to pay for anything is
poor etiquette. If you cannot afford to provide hard liquor, then
don't. Don't insult your guests by requesting that they pay for it.

-L.
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(-L.) wrote in
m:

> Kate Connally > wrote in message
> >...
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>> >
>> > Kate Connally wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Maybe you should get a bartender and make it a cash bar.
>> >
>> > That's the beauty of usenet. You get lots of opinions, often
>> > contradictory ones. Count me as one who hates the cash bar idea.
>> > I have no objection to being invited over and asked to bring a
>> > dish. I have huge objections to being invited to a social
>> > gathering and discovering a business venture when I get there.

>>
>> It's not a "business venture" but an accommodation to those
>> who would like hard liquor. There would be plenty of non-
>> alcoholic stuff free.
>>
>> > When I'm at a party, I
>> > don't expect to reach into my wallet to help the hosts with
>> > expenses.

>>
>> Well, it's a potluck, which is not the same as a regular
>> hosted party where the hosts provide everything.
>> A potluck is more of a communal gathering and everyone
>> contributes. The "hosts" would be responsible for organizing
>> it and providing a some of the food and all the accoutrements.
>>
>> And the cash bar concept is that it's there for those who
>> want it and if you don't want to fork out money for liquor
>> you certainly can guzzle down the Coke or Sprite or lemonade
>> or whatever.
>>
>> > If you can afford to serve liquor to your guests, go ahead and
>> > serve it.
>> > If not, liquor is not a requirement.

>>
>> Exactly my point. Unless the "host" is wealthy, providing
>> liquor for that many people would be way too expensive.
>> But I don't see anything wrong with having a cash bar in
>> this instance, if there are enough people that they think
>> would really want alcohol.

>
> Well, it is considered extremely poor etiquette (which is the title of
> the thread, afterall...). Asking your guests to pay for anything is
> poor etiquette. If you cannot afford to provide hard liquor, then
> don't. Don't insult your guests by requesting that they pay for it.
>
> -L.
>


I see nothing wrong in having a BYOB party and it's commonly done in many
areas, but I do agree that a cash bar at a party is poor etiquette. The
end result is much the same but the latter method is insulting.

Wayne
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