Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:

Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.


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"Hasnor Lot" > wrote in
:

> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
> practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the
> kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll
> start first:
>
> Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Using margarine instead of butter.
Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

"Hasnor Lot" > wrote in
:

> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
> practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the
> kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll
> start first:
>
> Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Using margarine instead of butter.
Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

In article >,
"Hasnor Lot" > wrote:

> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
> which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
>
> Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Or open a can..... ;-)
The boxed broth stock is even cheaper and better.
I find bullion to be a bit too salty.

My favorite blasphemy is using wishbone salad dressing for marinades!

And cooking corn on the cob in the microwave. I rarely use my microwave,
but that is one good use for it if you cook them in the husk!

This looks like a fun thread!

K.

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In article >,
Wayne > wrote:

> "Hasnor Lot" > wrote in
> :
>
> > Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
> > practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the
> > kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll
> > start first:
> >
> > Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>
> Using margarine instead of butter.

EWWWWWW!!!

> Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.

What is wrong with that? Especially if it's ranch. ;-)

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Katra > wrote in
:

> In article >,
> Wayne > wrote:
>
>> "Hasnor Lot" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
>> > practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of
>> > the kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another.
>> > I'll start first:
>> >
>> > Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>>
>> Using margarine instead of butter.
>
> EWWWWWW!!!
>
>> Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.
>
> What is wrong with that? Especially if it's ranch. ;-)
>

I should probably have specified "Miracle Whip" over which I gag!

--
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If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

Katra > wrote in
:

> In article >,
> Wayne > wrote:
>
>> "Hasnor Lot" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
>> > practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of
>> > the kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another.
>> > I'll start first:
>> >
>> > Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>>
>> Using margarine instead of butter.
>
> EWWWWWW!!!
>
>> Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.
>
> What is wrong with that? Especially if it's ranch. ;-)
>

I should probably have specified "Miracle Whip" over which I gag!

--
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If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

Liquid Smoke!
"Hasnor Lot" > wrote in message
...
> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
practices,
> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
> which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
>
> Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>
>
> --
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>
>

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:42:36 GMT, "Hasnor Lot"
> wrote:

>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
>and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
>which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
>
>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Processed cheese product instead of grating ....

masturbates:
>
>>"Hasnor" wrote:
>>
>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions.
>>
>>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>
>Processed cheese product instead of grating

Grating IS a process, you Freakin-Deacon child molesting moron.


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masturbates:
>
>>"Hasnor" wrote:
>>
>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions.
>>
>>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>
>Processed cheese product instead of grating

Grating IS a process, you Freakin-Deacon child molesting moron.


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In article >,
Katra > wrote:

> In article >,
> "Hasnor Lot" > wrote:
>
> > Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
> > practices, and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of
> > the kitchen--of which we're all guilty of at one point or another.
> > I'll start first:
> >
> > Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

> Or open a can..... ;-)
> The boxed broth stock is even cheaper and better.
> I find bullion to be a bit too salty.
>
> My favorite blasphemy is using wishbone salad dressing for marinades!

> And cooking corn on the cob in the microwave. I rarely use my microwave,
> but that is one good use for it if you cook them in the husk!
>
> This looks like a fun thread!

> K.

But what is blasphemous about doing the corn in a micro? It's just
another way to cook it. And particularly painless if you're only
cooking corn for one. (I love the WishBone tangy citrus dressing for
marinating.)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 7/22/04.

In article >, Wayne
> wrote:

> Katra > wrote in
> :
(snip)
> >> > Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
(snip)
> >> Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.

> I should probably have specified "Miracle Whip" over which I gag!

Why do you use it if it makes you gag?
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Old freezer burned hamburger patties, pan fried, smothered in a
envelope of brown gravy served with tater tots and a can of creamed
corn....Trailer Steaks!!! Kids love'em!!!

>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
>and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
>which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
>
>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Jim Rutkowski
Executive Chef
TrailerTrashAerospace

Old freezer burned hamburger patties, pan fried, smothered in a
envelope of brown gravy served with tater tots and a can of creamed
corn....Trailer Steaks!!! Kids love'em!!!

>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
>and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
>which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
>
>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Jim Rutkowski
Executive Chef
TrailerTrashAerospace

"Baking" a potato in the microwave.

"Baking" a potato in the microwave.

On 2004-07-28, Katra > wrote:

> What is wrong with that? Especially if it's ranch. ;-)

While ranch is not a blasphemy, it's certainly an abomination. The
blasphemy is tossing some blue cheese in ranch and calling it blue
cheese dressing, a practice common in way too many commercial kitchens.

nb

On 2004-07-28, Katra > wrote:

> What is wrong with that? Especially if it's ranch. ;-)

While ranch is not a blasphemy, it's certainly an abomination. The
blasphemy is tossing some blue cheese in ranch and calling it blue
cheese dressing, a practice common in way too many commercial kitchens.

nb

Hasnor Lot wrote:
> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
> which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:

I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans or
peeled cooked potatoes out of a can make me gag. Then I reread your
question and see that you're asking for blasphemies that I myself might
be guilty of myself now and then. That one makes me think. If I myself
do it, there's a fine line between a blasphemy and a good trick that
saves time. I often use V-8 juice for the basis of a quick tomato soup
or to put in a beef stew. Someone else pointed out that cubed or canned
stocks don't have to be horrible. If I'm pressed for a blasphemy that's
both awful and something I do, the best I can come up with is admitting
that I have a terrible weakness for junky sweets. It would blow my
cover as a food snob to admit that I like Hawaiian Punch with all its
neon red sweetness. Tahitian Treat is the carbonated version. Yum.
(But at a fancy dinner, I'll order the Riesling.)


--Lia

Hasnor Lot wrote:
> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
> which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:

I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans or
peeled cooked potatoes out of a can make me gag. Then I reread your
question and see that you're asking for blasphemies that I myself might
be guilty of myself now and then. That one makes me think. If I myself
do it, there's a fine line between a blasphemy and a good trick that
saves time. I often use V-8 juice for the basis of a quick tomato soup
or to put in a beef stew. Someone else pointed out that cubed or canned
stocks don't have to be horrible. If I'm pressed for a blasphemy that's
both awful and something I do, the best I can come up with is admitting
that I have a terrible weakness for junky sweets. It would blow my
cover as a food snob to admit that I like Hawaiian Punch with all its
neon red sweetness. Tahitian Treat is the carbonated version. Yum.
(But at a fancy dinner, I'll order the Riesling.)


--Lia

>Hasnor Lot wrote:
>> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
>> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--

Preground mystery meat.


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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, Wayne
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Katra > wrote in
:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.
>
>
>>I should probably have specified "Miracle Whip" over which I gag!
>
>
> Why do you use it if it makes you gag?


Perhaps, just perhaps, that is how he found out that it makes him gag.


jim

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, Wayne
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Katra > wrote in
:
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful
>
> (snip)
>
>>>>Using salad dressing instead of mayonnaise.
>
>
>>I should probably have specified "Miracle Whip" over which I gag!
>
>
> Why do you use it if it makes you gag?


Perhaps, just perhaps, that is how he found out that it makes him gag.


jim

Hasnor Lot wrote:

> Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions, shameful practices,
> and all out blasphemy that transpire in the darkness of the kitchen--of
> which we're all guilty of at one point or another. I'll start first:
> Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.

Washing the knives in the dishwasher.

On 2004-07-28, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans or
> peeled cooked potatoes out of a can make me gag.

"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?

Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.

I can think of a couple foods that tend to make their own 'cream' or 'gravy'
or whatever you want to call it. Other beans, like kidney, pinto, etc,
definitely do this and I can see how some might think they are 'slimy', but
these same beans make the same 'cream' when cooked on the stove.

As someone who has worked in canneries, I can assure you the food going into
a can is every bit as good as anything you buy for your kitchen. Sometimes
better.

nb

On 2004-07-28, Julia Altshuler > wrote:
> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans or
> peeled cooked potatoes out of a can make me gag.

"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?

Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.

I can think of a couple foods that tend to make their own 'cream' or 'gravy'
or whatever you want to call it. Other beans, like kidney, pinto, etc,
definitely do this and I can see how some might think they are 'slimy', but
these same beans make the same 'cream' when cooked on the stove.

As someone who has worked in canneries, I can assure you the food going into
a can is every bit as good as anything you buy for your kitchen. Sometimes
better.

nb

It has been so long since I bought canned vegetables that I can't give
you a brand name. I do believe the vegetables used by the canning
industry are wholesome and nutritious so my complaint wasn't about bad
food in the sense of there being something wrong with it nutritionally.
Mine was a culinary complaint. Maybe they're always overcooked in the
can or come in a salty liquid that's not rinsed off. I'm not sure, but
green vegetables especially always seem to grey-green in color and a
terrible texture when they come out of a can.


I agree with you about canned kidneys, black beans and garbanzos. These
are the beans where one eats only the seed/bean part, not the green
part. They're not necessarily so bad when canned though I do normally
prefer buying them dry and slow cooking them myself.


--Lia


notbob wrote:
> On 2004-07-28, Julia Altshuler > wrote

> "Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>
> Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
> things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
> water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.
>
> I can think of a couple foods that tend to make their own 'cream' or 'gravy'
> or whatever you want to call it. Other beans, like kidney, pinto, etc,
> definitely do this and I can see how some might think they are 'slimy', but
> these same beans make the same 'cream' when cooked on the stove.
>
> As someone who has worked in canneries, I can assure you the food going into
> a can is every bit as good as anything you buy for your kitchen. Sometimes
> better.
>
> nb

It has been so long since I bought canned vegetables that I can't give
you a brand name. I do believe the vegetables used by the canning
industry are wholesome and nutritious so my complaint wasn't about bad
food in the sense of there being something wrong with it nutritionally.
Mine was a culinary complaint. Maybe they're always overcooked in the
can or come in a salty liquid that's not rinsed off. I'm not sure, but
green vegetables especially always seem to grey-green in color and a
terrible texture when they come out of a can.


I agree with you about canned kidneys, black beans and garbanzos. These
are the beans where one eats only the seed/bean part, not the green
part. They're not necessarily so bad when canned though I do normally
prefer buying them dry and slow cooking them myself.


--Lia


notbob wrote:
> On 2004-07-28, Julia Altshuler > wrote

> "Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>
> Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
> things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
> water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.
>
> I can think of a couple foods that tend to make their own 'cream' or 'gravy'
> or whatever you want to call it. Other beans, like kidney, pinto, etc,
> definitely do this and I can see how some might think they are 'slimy', but
> these same beans make the same 'cream' when cooked on the stove.
>
> As someone who has worked in canneries, I can assure you the food going into
> a can is every bit as good as anything you buy for your kitchen. Sometimes
> better.
>
> nb

> notbob spews:
>
>>Julia Altshuler wrote:
>> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
>> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans
>> out of a can make me gag.
>
>"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>
>Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
>things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
>water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.

Water and salt in of themselves are not processes... beans are rained on all
the time without their getting slimey, ditto for salts in soil. *Cooking*
[actually over cooking], application of heat doesn't register as a process to
you, eh... moron.

Geeze... seems to be an over abundance of vociferous morons today...


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> notbob spews:
>
>>Julia Altshuler wrote:
>> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
>> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans
>> out of a can make me gag.
>
>"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>
>Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available. The only
>things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh green beans,
>water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.

Water and salt in of themselves are not processes... beans are rained on all
the time without their getting slimey, ditto for salts in soil. *Cooking*
[actually over cooking], application of heat doesn't register as a process to
you, eh... moron.

Geeze... seems to be an over abundance of vociferous morons today...


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Gtwy4cb wrote in message >...
>"Baking" a potato in the microwave.

pre-cooking sweet potato slices in the microwave before finishing on the
grill (hey- i was busy and didnt have time to run back and forth :>)

--
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TANSTAAFL

" I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the
world I live in.
- Carl Sherman

Gtwy4cb wrote in message >...
>"Baking" a potato in the microwave.

pre-cooking sweet potato slices in the microwave before finishing on the
grill (hey- i was busy and didnt have time to run back and forth :>)

--
saerah

TANSTAAFL

" I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the
world I live in.
- Carl Sherman

PENMART01 wrote in message >...
masturbates:
>>
>>>"Hasnor" wrote:
>>>
>>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions.
>>>
>>>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>>
>>Processed cheese product instead of grating
>
>Grating IS a process, you Freakin-Deacon child molesting moron.
>

and yet, no one complains. maybe he should start mentioning ann coulter.....

--
saerah

TANSTAAFL

" I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the
world I live in.
- Carl Sherman

PENMART01 wrote in message >...
masturbates:
>>
>>>"Hasnor" wrote:
>>>
>>>Perhaps we can compile a list of sinful transgressions.
>>>
>>>Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>>
>>Processed cheese product instead of grating
>
>Grating IS a process, you Freakin-Deacon child molesting moron.
>

and yet, no one complains. maybe he should start mentioning ann coulter.....

--
saerah

TANSTAAFL

" I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the
world I live in.
- Carl Sherman

>I agree with you about canned kidneys, black beans and garbanzos. These
>are the beans where one eats only the seed/bean part, not the green
>part. They're not necessarily so bad when canned though I do normally
>prefer buying them dry and slow cooking them myself.
>
>Lia

Canned beans began as dried beans too. Duh

Truth be known, like many, you just don't like paying the premium cost (or so
yoose think) associated with canned beans vs cooking beans oneself... mere
pennies when one considers the cost of cooking fuel, not to mention ones time
and effort... probably actually costs more to cook beans oneself, I know for a
fact it does if instead one buys beans in the tins large enough to equal the
quantity derived from cooking a full pound of dried beans oneself... only costs
more (a few cents more) if one buys the one pound cans (now 15 ounces). And I
often find 15 oz cans at 3/$1, sometimes 4/$1... which equal what's derived
from 1lb dried.


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>I agree with you about canned kidneys, black beans and garbanzos. These
>are the beans where one eats only the seed/bean part, not the green
>part. They're not necessarily so bad when canned though I do normally
>prefer buying them dry and slow cooking them myself.
>
>Lia

Canned beans began as dried beans too. Duh

Truth be known, like many, you just don't like paying the premium cost (or so
yoose think) associated with canned beans vs cooking beans oneself... mere
pennies when one considers the cost of cooking fuel, not to mention ones time
and effort... probably actually costs more to cook beans oneself, I know for a
fact it does if instead one buys beans in the tins large enough to equal the
quantity derived from cooking a full pound of dried beans oneself... only costs
more (a few cents more) if one buys the one pound cans (now 15 ounces). And I
often find 15 oz cans at 3/$1, sometimes 4/$1... which equal what's derived
from 1lb dried.


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(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> notbob spews:
>>
>>>Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
>>> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans
>>> out of a can make me gag.
>>
>>"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>>
>>Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available.
>>The only things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh
>>green beans, water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.
>
> Water and salt in of themselves are not processes... beans are rained
> on all the time without their getting slimey, ditto for salts in soil.
> *Cooking* [actually over cooking], application of heat doesn't
> register as a process to you, eh... moron.
>
> Geeze... seems to be an over abundance of vociferous morons today...
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````
>

there can be some citrus acid in canned veggies as well.

--
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and water.
--------
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(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> notbob spews:
>>
>>>Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>> I started to answer with how much I hate it when people use canned
>>> vegetables when fresh is available. Those slimy canned green beans
>>> out of a can make me gag.
>>
>>"Slimy green beans"!? What brand are you buying?
>>
>>Canned vegetables are probably the least processed food available.
>>The only things that go into a can of green beans are washed fresh
>>green beans, water, and a pinch of salt. That's it.
>
> Water and salt in of themselves are not processes... beans are rained
> on all the time without their getting slimey, ditto for salts in soil.
> *Cooking* [actually over cooking], application of heat doesn't
> register as a process to you, eh... moron.
>
> Geeze... seems to be an over abundance of vociferous morons today...
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````
>

there can be some citrus acid in canned veggies as well.

--
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and water.
--------
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"Dean G." > writes:
> > Using a bouillon cube as a short cut to a stock.
>
> Pre-ground black pepper.

That chopped garlic in the jars

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