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>"Mike Carvin" wrote:
> >"Kate Connally" wrote: >> >> Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >> mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >> whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >> eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >> even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >> from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. >> > >In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) Same as blaming upbringing for your six fingers... your wife's maiden name is Carvin too, eh? ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>"Mike Carvin" wrote:
> >"Kate Connally" wrote: >> >> Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >> mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >> whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >> eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >> even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >> from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. >> > >In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) Same as blaming upbringing for your six fingers... your wife's maiden name is Carvin too, eh? ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>"Mike Carvin" wrote:
> >"Kate Connally" wrote: >> >> Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >> mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >> whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >> eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >> even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >> from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. >> > >In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) Same as blaming upbringing for your six fingers... your wife's maiden name is Carvin too, eh? ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>My Mid-Western grandmother made a similar dish (hers included onions
>and had ketchup instead of tomato sauce) and called it "slumgullion". > >J.J. in WA She was being polite, in not calling is "shit". Merriam Webster slum·gul·lion noun Etymology: perhaps from slum slime + English dialect gullion mud, cesspool Date: 1902 : a meat stew --- gou·lash noun : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE --- ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>My Mid-Western grandmother made a similar dish (hers included onions
>and had ketchup instead of tomato sauce) and called it "slumgullion". > >J.J. in WA She was being polite, in not calling is "shit". Merriam Webster slum·gul·lion noun Etymology: perhaps from slum slime + English dialect gullion mud, cesspool Date: 1902 : a meat stew --- gou·lash noun : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE --- ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:26 -0400, Kate Connally
> wrote: > Actually back then > I didn't mind the canned bean sprouts so much, but I had > to sort through the whole mess to get rid of the evil > mushrooms and pieces of celery. > LOL! Are you my long lost sister? I've always hated canned mushrooms and cooked celery.... blech! > Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a > mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and > whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- > eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never > even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came > from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. Thank you! Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:26 -0400, Kate Connally
> wrote: > Actually back then > I didn't mind the canned bean sprouts so much, but I had > to sort through the whole mess to get rid of the evil > mushrooms and pieces of celery. > LOL! Are you my long lost sister? I've always hated canned mushrooms and cooked celery.... blech! > Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a > mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and > whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- > eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never > even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came > from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. Thank you! Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin"
> wrote: > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! AFAIC chop suey is a horrible name for it. Of course, I don't like the current name of one of my favorite combos either (fluffernutters). If they were called that horrible name in my formative days, I wouldn't have gone near them. ![]() Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin"
> wrote: > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! AFAIC chop suey is a horrible name for it. Of course, I don't like the current name of one of my favorite combos either (fluffernutters). If they were called that horrible name in my formative days, I wouldn't have gone near them. ![]() Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin"
> wrote: > >"Kate Connally" > wrote in message ... >> >> Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >> mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >> whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >> eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >> even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >> from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. > >In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) I grew up in central NY and had heard of it as "goulash." I don't even know how I knew that because we never had it at home. A former roommate from New Hampshire called it "chop suey." It's starting to seem like "chop suey" is a New England thang. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin"
> wrote: > >"Kate Connally" > wrote in message ... >> >> Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >> mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >> whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >> eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >> even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >> from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. > >In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) I grew up in central NY and had heard of it as "goulash." I don't even know how I knew that because we never had it at home. A former roommate from New Hampshire called it "chop suey." It's starting to seem like "chop suey" is a New England thang. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > > >>"Kate Connally" > wrote in message ... >> >>>Then there is the "American" chop suey which is just a >>>mess of macaroni noodles, ground beef, tomato sauce and >>>whatever else people like to put in it. How that conglom- >>>eration came to be called chop suey escapes me. I never >>>even heard of it until maybe 10 years ago. Where I came >>>from chop suey was a vaguely Chinese influenced dish. >> >>In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was >>called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the >>paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called >>American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it >>goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) > > > I grew up in central NY and had heard of it as "goulash." I don't > even know how I knew that because we never had it at home. > > A former roommate from New Hampshire called it "chop suey." It's > starting to seem like "chop suey" is a New England thang. > > Sue(tm) > Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! Grew up in northwestern PA. It was (and still is) goulash. Chop suey is that gross american creation that they try to pawn off onto the Chineese. (probably 'cause whoever came up with it was drunk and ashamed when they woke up the next day and tried it) ;-) -- Steve Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it. |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > > > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) > > Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... > that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called > when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! I've heard it called goulash, but we didn't have it much when I was a kid. We used to kind of make in on our own, sometimes using canned tomato soup with the ground beef. Brian Rodenborn |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > > > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) > > Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... > that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called > when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! I've heard it called goulash, but we didn't have it much when I was a kid. We used to kind of make in on our own, sometimes using canned tomato soup with the ground beef. Brian Rodenborn |
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>> It is a canned sloppy joe
>> mix they sell in the US; > >I prefer the envelope to a can. So do I. Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man "The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong" James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait". |
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>> It is a canned sloppy joe
>> mix they sell in the US; > >I prefer the envelope to a can. So do I. Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man "The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong" James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait". |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> > > > I grew up in central NY and had heard of it as "goulash." I don't > even know how I knew that because we never had it at home. > > A former roommate from New Hampshire called it "chop suey." It's > starting to seem like "chop suey" is a New England thang. > > Sue(tm) > Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu always called it American Chop Suey. That was in Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. gloria p |
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Curly Sue wrote:
> > > > I grew up in central NY and had heard of it as "goulash." I don't > even know how I knew that because we never had it at home. > > A former roommate from New Hampshire called it "chop suey." It's > starting to seem like "chop suey" is a New England thang. > > Sue(tm) > Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu always called it American Chop Suey. That was in Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. gloria p |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:19:17 GMT, Puester
> wrote: > I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu > always called it American Chop Suey. That was in > Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of > orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. Just curious. What decade was this? Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:19:17 GMT, Puester
> wrote: > I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu > always called it American Chop Suey. That was in > Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of > orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. Just curious. What decade was this? Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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Kate Connally > wrote in :
> This is much more like the sloppy joes I'm familiar with. > Closer to a bbq sauce than spaghetti sauce. Totally different > seasonings. > > Kate Yep, I've never tasted any that resembled spaghetti sauce. I've never tried barbeque sauce, but probably a good idea. -- Wayne in Phoenix If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. |
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Kate Connally > wrote in :
> This is much more like the sloppy joes I'm familiar with. > Closer to a bbq sauce than spaghetti sauce. Totally different > seasonings. > > Kate Yep, I've never tasted any that resembled spaghetti sauce. I've never tried barbeque sauce, but probably a good idea. -- Wayne in Phoenix If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > > > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) > > Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... > that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called > when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! > > AFAIC chop suey is a horrible name for it. Of course, I > don't like the current name of one of my favorite combos > either (fluffernutters). If they were called that horrible > name in my formative days, I wouldn't have gone near them. I think fluffernutters is a great name! Chop suey is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > > > In (waaay) upstate New York where I and my wife grew up, that dish was > > called goulash -- even though it bears absolutely no resemblance to the > > paprika-laden Hungarian stew. I have never heard of it being called > > American chop suey until we moved to Massachusetts. We still call it > > goulash - blame it on upbringing. :-) > > Ding, ding, ding!!! Old memories are flooding back.... > that's what tomato sauce, hamburger and noodles was called > when I was a kid. Goulash - I liked! > > AFAIC chop suey is a horrible name for it. Of course, I > don't like the current name of one of my favorite combos > either (fluffernutters). If they were called that horrible > name in my formative days, I wouldn't have gone near them. I think fluffernutters is a great name! Chop suey is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned. Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:27:05 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >notbob wrote: >> >> On 2004-07-28, Frank Mancuso > wrote: >> >> > to eat, hence the name, SLoppy Joe. It was always runnig down one's arms. >> >> LOL!.... >> >> You're not supposed to pick it up. It's an open face sandwich. heh heh... > >Are you mad!!!??? Next you'll be telling me you eat closed faced >reubens. My word. > >nancy i think we discussed this before. closed face, pick up reubens. but if you want real blasphemy, use cole slaw instead of kraut. your pal, blake |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:27:05 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >notbob wrote: >> >> On 2004-07-28, Frank Mancuso > wrote: >> >> > to eat, hence the name, SLoppy Joe. It was always runnig down one's arms. >> >> LOL!.... >> >> You're not supposed to pick it up. It's an open face sandwich. heh heh... > >Are you mad!!!??? Next you'll be telling me you eat closed faced >reubens. My word. > >nancy i think we discussed this before. closed face, pick up reubens. but if you want real blasphemy, use cole slaw instead of kraut. your pal, blake |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:19:17 GMT, Puester > > wrote: > > > I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu > > always called it American Chop Suey. That was in > > Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of > > orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. > > Just curious. What decade was this? > > Practice safe eating - always use condiments Jr, high started in 1955 for me. I graduated from high school in 1961. gloria p Older than Dirt |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:19:17 GMT, Puester > > wrote: > > > I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu > > always called it American Chop Suey. That was in > > Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of > > orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. > > Just curious. What decade was this? > > Practice safe eating - always use condiments Jr, high started in 1955 for me. I graduated from high school in 1961. gloria p Older than Dirt |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:19:17 GMT, Puester > > wrote: > > > I only knew it from school cafeteria food and the menu > > always called it American Chop Suey. That was in > > Massachusetts. It was always served with a big cube of > > orange cheese on the side which I never tasted. > > Just curious. What decade was this? > > Practice safe eating - always use condiments Jr, high started in 1955 for me. I graduated from high school in 1961. gloria p Older than Dirt |
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
... > > i think we discussed this before. closed face, pick up reubens. but > if you want real blasphemy, use cole slaw instead of kraut. > If it's got cole slaw instead of kraut, then it's not a reuben - it's a rachel (at least according to one deli out this way). Though I prefer my slaw on the side, unless I'm eating a po'boy :-) MikeC |
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
... > > i think we discussed this before. closed face, pick up reubens. but > if you want real blasphemy, use cole slaw instead of kraut. > If it's got cole slaw instead of kraut, then it's not a reuben - it's a rachel (at least according to one deli out this way). Though I prefer my slaw on the side, unless I'm eating a po'boy :-) MikeC |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:26 -0400, Kate Connally > > wrote: > > > Actually back then > > I didn't mind the canned bean sprouts so much, but I had > > to sort through the whole mess to get rid of the evil > > mushrooms and pieces of celery. > > > LOL! Are you my long lost sister? I've always hated canned > mushrooms and cooked celery.... blech! Yep, we must be related. ;-) Although I hate all mushrooms, not just canned. > Practice safe eating - always use condiments I love this line! Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:26 -0400, Kate Connally > > wrote: > > > Actually back then > > I didn't mind the canned bean sprouts so much, but I had > > to sort through the whole mess to get rid of the evil > > mushrooms and pieces of celery. > > > LOL! Are you my long lost sister? I've always hated canned > mushrooms and cooked celery.... blech! Yep, we must be related. ;-) Although I hate all mushrooms, not just canned. > Practice safe eating - always use condiments I love this line! Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:43:26 -0400, Kate Connally > > wrote: > > > Actually back then > > I didn't mind the canned bean sprouts so much, but I had > > to sort through the whole mess to get rid of the evil > > mushrooms and pieces of celery. > > > LOL! Are you my long lost sister? I've always hated canned > mushrooms and cooked celery.... blech! Yep, we must be related. ;-) Although I hate all mushrooms, not just canned. > Practice safe eating - always use condiments I love this line! Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:14 -0400, "Mike Carvin" > > wrote: > AFAIC chop suey is a horrible name for it. Of course, I > don't like the current name of one of my favorite combos > either (fluffernutters). If they were called that horrible > name in my formative days, I wouldn't have gone near them. I suppose you don't like skabanananut sandwiches, either? =) ObFood: try putting some cinnamon/sugar on a skabanananut. Deelish! -- ..-. .-. .---. .---. .-..-.|Experts in Linux/Unix: www.WildOpenSource.com | |__ / | \| |-< | |-< > / |"Making the bazaar more commonplace" `----'`-^-'`-'`-'`-'`-' `-' |Check out my new novel: "Cloud Realm" at: home:www.smith-house.org:8000|http://www.smith-house.org:8000/books/list.html |
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