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I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered
whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:28:43 GMT, Gary > wrote:
>I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered >whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > >Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Yes, I have two of them (different sizes). It's very good, but the freezer cylinder must be *really* cold. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:28:43 GMT, Gary > wrote:
>I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered >whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > >Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Yes, I have two of them (different sizes). It's very good, but the freezer cylinder must be *really* cold. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Gary > wrote: > I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? We had one, and gave it away. Maybe there are tricks to using it that we never discovered, but the results were disappointing. Lots of effort expended in cranking, and the ice cream came out grainy and lumpy. I have used old-style hand cranked machines before, the kind with the wooden bucket that you fill with ice and salt. Much better results. The Donvier might be OK if you want to make sorbets or sherbets. If you want a smooth creamy texture, look at alternatives. -- Julian Vrieslander |
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A shot rang out! And Gary > said:
> I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Yes -- we have a one pint Donvier that I bought for my mother as a gift back in the '80's. It's great for specialty ice creams (tiny blackberry is my favorite). Its small size means you don't have to do much cranking (2 turns every 1 minute, or something like that), so I can't imagine needing an electric version. If you want to make more, it might be worth it... -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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A shot rang out! And Gary > said:
> I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Yes -- we have a one pint Donvier that I bought for my mother as a gift back in the '80's. It's great for specialty ice creams (tiny blackberry is my favorite). Its small size means you don't have to do much cranking (2 turns every 1 minute, or something like that), so I can't imagine needing an electric version. If you want to make more, it might be worth it... -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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>We had one, and gave it away
>Lots of effort >expended in cranking, and the ice cream came out grainy and lumpy. ###################### You didn't prepare your Ice cream well and you are NOT suppose to crank it ALOT. jsut every 5-10 minutes a couple of turns. BG |
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>We had one, and gave it away
>Lots of effort >expended in cranking, and the ice cream came out grainy and lumpy. ###################### You didn't prepare your Ice cream well and you are NOT suppose to crank it ALOT. jsut every 5-10 minutes a couple of turns. BG |
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Gary > wrote in message >. ..
> I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Go to amazon and you'll find pretty much the entire spectrum of home ice cream machines. And you'll see that you can get a cuisinart or krupps electric for the same price, and a Rival for less. The only benefit I can see to the Donvier is that it is quiet. My cuisinart machine gets kind of noisy towards end of cycle. Also, if you're Amish you can use it without guilt. But, then, if you're Amish you're probably not reading this. The most interesting thing on the amazon page was this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...tchen&n=289924 at $199 for self freezing, it is very attractive. Greg Zywicki |
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Gary > wrote in message >. ..
> I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? Go to amazon and you'll find pretty much the entire spectrum of home ice cream machines. And you'll see that you can get a cuisinart or krupps electric for the same price, and a Rival for less. The only benefit I can see to the Donvier is that it is quiet. My cuisinart machine gets kind of noisy towards end of cycle. Also, if you're Amish you can use it without guilt. But, then, if you're Amish you're probably not reading this. The most interesting thing on the amazon page was this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...tchen&n=289924 at $199 for self freezing, it is very attractive. Greg Zywicki |
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In article >, gary_w1
@hotmail.com says... > I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? > The Donvier ice cream makers are great. We got one each of the pint and quart sizes back when (maybe 15 years ago). Because of expanding waistlines, we use them less than we used to, they still work fine. The quart size gets used more, but the pint size is handy and quicker to freeze if you only need a small quantity of ice cream, sorbet, frozen yogurt, slushy drinks or whatever. One nice thing about the Donviers is that once the insert is frozen, they're totally self-contained (no electricity, salt or ice required). If there are kids around, they can pass the unit around and take turns cranking. The units store very compactly (no electric motor), they're simple to put together, easy to clean when you're done, and there are no fiddly little parts to get misplaced. The cranking is not strenuous; as others have pointed out, you don't have to crank constantly, although we found that constant cranking can improve the texture of some recipes. Like any other appliance, you have to be willing/able to learn from your mistakes and tweak your recipes to get the most out of it, but as I recall, the recipes that came with the Donviers were good starting points. |
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In article >, gary_w1
@hotmail.com says... > I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? > The Donvier ice cream makers are great. We got one each of the pint and quart sizes back when (maybe 15 years ago). Because of expanding waistlines, we use them less than we used to, they still work fine. The quart size gets used more, but the pint size is handy and quicker to freeze if you only need a small quantity of ice cream, sorbet, frozen yogurt, slushy drinks or whatever. One nice thing about the Donviers is that once the insert is frozen, they're totally self-contained (no electricity, salt or ice required). If there are kids around, they can pass the unit around and take turns cranking. The units store very compactly (no electric motor), they're simple to put together, easy to clean when you're done, and there are no fiddly little parts to get misplaced. The cranking is not strenuous; as others have pointed out, you don't have to crank constantly, although we found that constant cranking can improve the texture of some recipes. Like any other appliance, you have to be willing/able to learn from your mistakes and tweak your recipes to get the most out of it, but as I recall, the recipes that came with the Donviers were good starting points. |
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In article >, gary_w1
@hotmail.com says... >I saw one of these manual ice cream > makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an > electric model. >Does anyone have any experience with > the Donvier manual? I have the Donvier 1 qt size and love it. Remember to have the bucket "freezer cold" for a few hours at least and to have the mixture a bit chilled before using. I just keep the bucket in the freezere all the time. Here are some sorbet recipes that Sheldon posted about a week ago, I plan to make some soon. X-Admin: =A0=A0 From: =A0=A0 (PENMART01) Group: =A0=A0 rec.food.cooking Date: =A0=A0 Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 5:45pm (EDT+4) Organization: =A0=A0 AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: =A0=A0 Best way to make sorbet at home? Gary gary_w1 writes: I love pear sorbet and would like to be able to make it at home. I tried just freezing pulverized (canned) pears (artificially sweetened), but it freezes solid rather than forms a sorbet. So I think I need a machine. There seem to be several types out there. Does anyone have any recommendations as to which type will do a better job for me? First what you need is a recipe. WINTER SORBET SAMPLER Many dessert menus include a colorful sorbet plate-light and refreshing after a rich meal. Offer elegant cookies alongside. For the pink grapefruit sorbet recipe, we prefer Essencia, a dessert wine with the unique flavor of orange muscat grapes. It's made by Quady Vineyards in central California. If you cannot find it, use a Sauternes or a late-harvest Riesling. Pink Grapefruit Sorbet 1 3/4 cups Essencia (or other sweet dessert wine) 2 1/2 cups fresh pink grapefruit juice (from about 6 grapefruits) 1/2 cup plus 2 tablespoons sugar 2 tablespoons light corn syrup 1 tablespoon grenadine syrup 1 1/2 teaspoons grated pink grapefruit peel Cranberry Sorbet 2 cups fresh or frozen cranberries 1 1/2 cups water 1 cup tawny Port 1 cup sugar Pear Sorbet 2 1/4 pounds ripe pears, peeled, quartered, cored 1 3/4 cups plus 2 tablespoons Gew=FCrztraminer or other dry white wine 3/4 cup sugar 2 tablespoons light corn syrup Fresh mint leaves For Grapefruit Sorbet: Boil 1 cup wine in heavy small saucepan until reduced to 1/4 cup, about 6 minutes. Pour into large bowl. Add grapefruit juice, sugar, corn syrup, grenadine and peel; stir until sugar dissolves. Mix in remaining 3/4 cup wine. Refrigerate until cold. For Cranberry Sorbet: Cook all ingredients in heavy medium saucepan over medium-high heat until berries pop and soften, stirring frequently, about 10 minutes. Puree in processor. Strain into bowl. Refrigerate until cold. For Pear Sorbet: Combine pears and 1 cup plus 2 tablespoons wine in heavy medium saucepan over medium heat. Cover and cook until pears are tender, about 8 minutes. Puree pear mixture and sugar in processor. Mix in 3/4 cup wine and corn syrup. Chill until cold. Process each mixture separately in ice cream maker according to manufacturer's instructions. Freeze in covered containers. (Can be made 1 week ahead.) Using oval-shaped ice cream scooper, place 1 scoop of each sorbet on each plate. Garnish with mint. Bon App=E9tit January 1994 --- ---=3D BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =3D--- =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ---=3D= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =3D--- =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:51:46 GMT, Julian Vrieslander
> wrote: >In article >, > oads (BillKirch) wrote: > >> >We had one, and gave it away >> >> >Lots of effort >> >expended in cranking, and the ice cream came out grainy and lumpy. >> >> ###################### >> You didn't prepare your Ice cream well and you are NOT suppose to crank it >> ALOT. jsut every 5-10 minutes a couple of turns. BG > >What is "prepared well"? We followed Donvier's instructions. We tried >Donvier's recipes and others. We chilled the inner sleeve in the >freezer for days before use. It never worked very well. We don't have >any ice cream machine now, but I've used traditional salt/ice >handcranked machines in the past and had excellent results. > The only thing I can think of (for your getting unsatisfactory results) is that the cylinder wasn't cold enough... maybe? But even that wouldn't explain grainy and lumpy. It's a mystery because I've always had great results and, it seems, other people do too. I do, generally, use custard-based recipes. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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>What is "prepared well"? We followed Donvier's instructions. We tried >Donvier's recipes and others. We chilled the inner sleeve in the >freezer for days before use. It never worked very well. We don't have >any ice cream machine now, but I've used traditional salt/ice >handcranked machines in the past and had excellent results. > >-- >Julian Vrieslander > I have a Donvier Ice cream machine, and have not had a problem with the texture or anything else. Well, wait a minute... it is a little bit toooo small!!! Rosie |
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>What is "prepared well"? We followed Donvier's instructions. We tried >Donvier's recipes and others. We chilled the inner sleeve in the >freezer for days before use. It never worked very well. We don't have >any ice cream machine now, but I've used traditional salt/ice >handcranked machines in the past and had excellent results. > >-- >Julian Vrieslander > I have a Donvier Ice cream machine, and have not had a problem with the texture or anything else. Well, wait a minute... it is a little bit toooo small!!! Rosie |
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>What is "prepared well"? We followed Donvier's instructions. We tried >Donvier's recipes and others. We chilled the inner sleeve in the >freezer for days before use. It never worked very well. We don't have >any ice cream machine now, but I've used traditional salt/ice >handcranked machines in the past and had excellent results. > >-- >Julian Vrieslander > I have a Donvier Ice cream machine, and have not had a problem with the texture or anything else. Well, wait a minute... it is a little bit toooo small!!! Rosie |
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In article >,
(byakee) wrote: > A shot rang out! And said: > > In article >, gary_w1 > > @hotmail.com says... > > > >Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? > > > > I have the Donvier 1 qt size and love it. > > Remember to have the bucket "freezer cold" for a few hours at least and > > to have the mixture a bit chilled before using. I just keep the bucket > > in the freezere all the time. > > <snip> > > I just store mine in the big freezer full time -- then it's ready > whenever we want it... We used to do just that, and never got satisfactory results. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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In article >,
(byakee) wrote: > A shot rang out! And said: > > In article >, gary_w1 > > @hotmail.com says... > > > >Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? > > > > I have the Donvier 1 qt size and love it. > > Remember to have the bucket "freezer cold" for a few hours at least and > > to have the mixture a bit chilled before using. I just keep the bucket > > in the freezere all the time. > > <snip> > > I just store mine in the big freezer full time -- then it's ready > whenever we want it... We used to do just that, and never got satisfactory results. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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>What is "prepared well"?
############## Did you chill the mixture for 12 hours before making the ice cream? BG |
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I don't know anything about that machine, but I've made 4 batches so far
with my Cuisinart electric and all of them came out perfect...so far. I saw it on sale at costco for around $30. It's electric & a little noisy but if you can put up with it for 30 minutes it's worth it. --P.K. "Gary" > wrote in message ... > I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? |
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I don't know anything about that machine, but I've made 4 batches so far
with my Cuisinart electric and all of them came out perfect...so far. I saw it on sale at costco for around $30. It's electric & a little noisy but if you can put up with it for 30 minutes it's worth it. --P.K. "Gary" > wrote in message ... > I saw one of these manual ice cream makers for sale, and I wondered > whether I should buy it or hold out for an electric model. > > Does anyone have any experience with the Donvier manual? |
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> , Julian Vrieslander > wrote: > In article >, > oads (BillKirch) wrote: > > > >What is "prepared well"? > > > > ############## > > Did you chill the mixture for 12 hours before making the ice cream? BG > > It's been a couple of years since we gave up on the Donvier. I don't > remember whether our recipes called for chilling the mix for that long. > Probably not. I don't recall doing it with the recipes I used to make > in the oldstyle (ice/salt) machine, either. We stored the internal canister in the freezer 24/7, so that was not the problem. The ice cream mixture would have been plenty cold after a couple of hours. 12 hours seems like overkill. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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> , Julian Vrieslander > wrote: > In article >, > oads (BillKirch) wrote: > > > >What is "prepared well"? > > > > ############## > > Did you chill the mixture for 12 hours before making the ice cream? BG > > It's been a couple of years since we gave up on the Donvier. I don't > remember whether our recipes called for chilling the mix for that long. > Probably not. I don't recall doing it with the recipes I used to make > in the oldstyle (ice/salt) machine, either. We stored the internal canister in the freezer 24/7, so that was not the problem. The ice cream mixture would have been plenty cold after a couple of hours. 12 hours seems like overkill. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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A shot rang out! And Cindy Fuller >
said: > In article >, > (byakee) wrote: > > A shot rang out! And said: > > > Remember to have the bucket "freezer cold" for a few hours at least and > > > to have the mixture a bit chilled before using. I just keep the bucket > > > in the freezere all the time. > > I just store mine in the big freezer full time -- then it's ready > > whenever we want it... > We used to do just that, and never got satisfactory results. Hmmm, could your freezer have been too warm maybe? Or maybe you had a bad unit. I'm not sure -- I'm avoiding high calorie foods now so we haven't used our Donvier for a while... *Sigh* -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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A shot rang out! And Cindy Fuller >
said: > In article >, > (byakee) wrote: > > A shot rang out! And said: > > > Remember to have the bucket "freezer cold" for a few hours at least and > > > to have the mixture a bit chilled before using. I just keep the bucket > > > in the freezere all the time. > > I just store mine in the big freezer full time -- then it's ready > > whenever we want it... > We used to do just that, and never got satisfactory results. Hmmm, could your freezer have been too warm maybe? Or maybe you had a bad unit. I'm not sure -- I'm avoiding high calorie foods now so we haven't used our Donvier for a while... *Sigh* -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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