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Bulls are too old and tough to be used for beef consumption.
"Heifers that are not being kept for breeding will be moved to a feedlot until
they are sold as market beef. Steers are also kept in a feedlot until they go
to market."
Steers, of course, are neutered male calves.
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>Subject: beef or cow
>From: RD
>Date: 7/31/2004 10:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
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>
>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and
>darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of
>bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
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Bulls are too old and tough to be used for beef consumption.
"Heifers that are not being kept for breeding will be moved to a feedlot until
they are sold as market beef. Steers are also kept in a feedlot until they go
to market."
Steers, of course, are neutered male calves.
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>Subject: beef or cow
>From: RD
>Date: 7/31/2004 10:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and
>darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of
>bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>
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Can you clear up this up for me please;

Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.

Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.

The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.

ami I right?

Thanks

Robert
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> RD logann writes:
>
>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and
>darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.


I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe

Beef cattle or a kind of
>bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?


Go he

http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm


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> RD logann writes:
>
>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and
>darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.


I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe

Beef cattle or a kind of
>bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?


Go he

http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm


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"RD" > wrote in message
...
> Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
> Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

and darker.
>
> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of

bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert


Partly right. A cow is indeed a female. A castrated male is a steer, and an
uncastrated male is a bull. Most beef comes from steers.


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"RD" > wrote in message
...
> Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
> Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

and darker.
>
> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of

bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert


Partly right. A cow is indeed a female. A castrated male is a steer, and an
uncastrated male is a bull. Most beef comes from steers.


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In article >, RD > wrote:

> ami I right?


The meat of any cattle is called "beef." I won't address the issue of
what's usually grown for market, since there are others that will
that probably actually know something about it....

Mike Beede
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In article >, RD > wrote:

> ami I right?


The meat of any cattle is called "beef." I won't address the issue of
what's usually grown for market, since there are others that will
that probably actually know something about it....

Mike Beede
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"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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> > RD logann writes:
> >
> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
> >
> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
> >
> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

and
> >darker.
> >
> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.

>
> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
>
> Beef cattle or a kind of
> >bull is male
> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
> >
> >ami I right?

>
> Go he
>
> http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
>


Good collection but they missed the ox. Here is a note on
its usage, from Merriam-Webster unabridged at dictionary.com:

Note: The castrated male is called a steer until it attains its full growth,
and then, an ox; but if castrated somewhat late in life, it is called a
stag. The male, not castrated, is called a bull. These distinctions are well
established in regard to domestic animals of this genus. When wild animals
of this kind are spoken of, ox is often applied both to the male and the
female. The name ox is never applied to the individual cow, or female, of
the domestic kind. Oxen may comprehend both the male and the female.

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"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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> > RD logann writes:
> >
> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
> >
> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
> >
> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

and
> >darker.
> >
> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.

>
> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
>
> Beef cattle or a kind of
> >bull is male
> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
> >
> >ami I right?

>
> Go he
>
> http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
>


Good collection but they missed the ox. Here is a note on
its usage, from Merriam-Webster unabridged at dictionary.com:

Note: The castrated male is called a steer until it attains its full growth,
and then, an ox; but if castrated somewhat late in life, it is called a
stag. The male, not castrated, is called a bull. These distinctions are well
established in regard to domestic animals of this genus. When wild animals
of this kind are spoken of, ox is often applied both to the male and the
female. The name ox is never applied to the individual cow, or female, of
the domestic kind. Oxen may comprehend both the male and the female.

pavane


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>Mike Beede throws bull:
>
> wrote:
>>
>> ami I right?

>
>The meat of any cattle is called "beef."


Not true.... under a year it's a veal.

I won't address the issue of
>what's usually grown for market, since there are others that will
>that probably actually know something about it....


Yes, you know zero about beef.

beef
Beef, the meat of an adult (over 1 year) bovine, wasn't always as popular as it
is today. America has had cattle since the mid-1500s, but most immigrants
preferred either pork or chicken. Shortages of those two meats during the Civil
War, however, suddenly made beef attractive and very much in demand. Today's
beef comes from cows (females that have borne at least one calf), steers (males
castrated when very young), heifers (females that have never borne a calf) and
bulls under 2 years old. Baby beef is the lean, tender but not too flavorful
meat of a 7- to 10-month-old calf.

Meat packers can request and pay for their meat to be graded by the U.S.
Department of Agriculture (USDA). The grading is based on three factors:
conformation (the proportion of meat to bone), finish (proportion of fat to
lean) and overall quality. Beginning with the best quality, the eight USDA
grades for beef are Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial, Utility,
Cutter and Canner. The meat's grade is stamped within a purple shield (a
harmless vegetable dye is used for the ink) at regular intervals on the outside
of each carcass. USDA Prime and the last three grades are rarely seen in retail
outlets. Prime is usually reserved for fine restaurants and specialty butcher
shops; the lower-quality grades are generally only used for sausages and in
cured and canned meats. Ideally, beef is at its best €” both in flavor and
texture €” at 18 to 24 months. The meat at that age is an even rosy-red color.
If the animal is over 2 1/2 years old it is usually classified as "well-matured
beef" and, though more full-flavored, the meat begins to toughen and darken to
a purplish red. Slow, moist-heat cooking, however, will make it perfectly
delicious. To store fresh beef: If the meat will be cooked within 6 hours of
purchase, it may be left in its plastic-wrapped package. Otherwise, remove the
packaging and either store unwrapped in the refrigerator's meat compartment or
wrap loosely with waxed paper and keep in the coldest part of the refrigerator
for up to 2 days for GROUND BEEF, 3 days for other cuts. The object is to let
the air circulate and keep the meat's surface somewhat dry, thereby inhibiting
rapid bacterial growth. Cooked meat should be wrapped airtight and stored in
the refrigerator. Ground beef can be frozen, wrapped airtight, for up to 3
months, solid cuts up to 6 months. For questions on beef, call the USDA Meat
and Poultry Hotline at 800-535-4555.

© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995
based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.
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>Mike Beede throws bull:
>
> wrote:
>>
>> ami I right?

>
>The meat of any cattle is called "beef."


Not true.... under a year it's a veal.

I won't address the issue of
>what's usually grown for market, since there are others that will
>that probably actually know something about it....


Yes, you know zero about beef.

beef
Beef, the meat of an adult (over 1 year) bovine, wasn't always as popular as it
is today. America has had cattle since the mid-1500s, but most immigrants
preferred either pork or chicken. Shortages of those two meats during the Civil
War, however, suddenly made beef attractive and very much in demand. Today's
beef comes from cows (females that have borne at least one calf), steers (males
castrated when very young), heifers (females that have never borne a calf) and
bulls under 2 years old. Baby beef is the lean, tender but not too flavorful
meat of a 7- to 10-month-old calf.

Meat packers can request and pay for their meat to be graded by the U.S.
Department of Agriculture (USDA). The grading is based on three factors:
conformation (the proportion of meat to bone), finish (proportion of fat to
lean) and overall quality. Beginning with the best quality, the eight USDA
grades for beef are Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial, Utility,
Cutter and Canner. The meat's grade is stamped within a purple shield (a
harmless vegetable dye is used for the ink) at regular intervals on the outside
of each carcass. USDA Prime and the last three grades are rarely seen in retail
outlets. Prime is usually reserved for fine restaurants and specialty butcher
shops; the lower-quality grades are generally only used for sausages and in
cured and canned meats. Ideally, beef is at its best €” both in flavor and
texture €” at 18 to 24 months. The meat at that age is an even rosy-red color.
If the animal is over 2 1/2 years old it is usually classified as "well-matured
beef" and, though more full-flavored, the meat begins to toughen and darken to
a purplish red. Slow, moist-heat cooking, however, will make it perfectly
delicious. To store fresh beef: If the meat will be cooked within 6 hours of
purchase, it may be left in its plastic-wrapped package. Otherwise, remove the
packaging and either store unwrapped in the refrigerator's meat compartment or
wrap loosely with waxed paper and keep in the coldest part of the refrigerator
for up to 2 days for GROUND BEEF, 3 days for other cuts. The object is to let
the air circulate and keep the meat's surface somewhat dry, thereby inhibiting
rapid bacterial growth. Cooked meat should be wrapped airtight and stored in
the refrigerator. Ground beef can be frozen, wrapped airtight, for up to 3
months, solid cuts up to 6 months. For questions on beef, call the USDA Meat
and Poultry Hotline at 800-535-4555.

© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995
based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.
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>"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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>> > RD logann writes:
>> >
>> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
>> >
>> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>> >
>> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

>and
>> >darker.
>> >
>> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.

>>
>> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
>>
>> Beef cattle or a kind of
>> >bull is male
>> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>> >
>> >ami I right?

>>
>> Go he
>>
>>
http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
>>

>
>Good collection but they missed the ox.


Oxen are generally not considered food animals. And it's difficult to compile
a listing for beef as different culture's designations and terminology differ.
You need to accept the list at the website I provided contexturally.


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>"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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>> > RD logann writes:
>> >
>> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
>> >
>> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>> >
>> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher

>and
>> >darker.
>> >
>> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.

>>
>> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
>>
>> Beef cattle or a kind of
>> >bull is male
>> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>> >
>> >ami I right?

>>
>> Go he
>>
>>
http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
>>

>
>Good collection but they missed the ox.


Oxen are generally not considered food animals. And it's difficult to compile
a listing for beef as different culture's designations and terminology differ.
You need to accept the list at the website I provided contexturally.


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> >"PENMART01" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> > RD logann writes:
> >> >
> >> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
> >> >
> >> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
> >> >
> >> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is

tougher
> >and
> >> >darker.
> >> >
> >> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.
> >>
> >> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
> >>
> >> Beef cattle or a kind of
> >> >bull is male
> >> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
> >> >
> >> >ami I right?
> >>
> >> Go he
> >>
> >>
http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
> >>

> >
> >Good collection but they missed the ox.

>
> Oxen are generally not considered food animals. And it's difficult to

compile
> a listing for beef as different culture's designations and terminology

differ.
> You need to accept the list at the website I provided contexturally.


It is a comprehensive list. It is probably the current oxtail soup thread
that stimulated curiosity about the ox. And yeah, I know that oxtails
aren't from oxen any more. And I am pretty sure that the mystery pig
coil is a tail. Enough tales of tails?

pavane


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> >> > RD logann writes:
> >> >
> >> >Can you clear up this up for me please;
> >> >
> >> >Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
> >> >
> >> >Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is

tougher
> >and
> >> >darker.
> >> >
> >> >The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.
> >>
> >> I don't think most females will appreciate this designation. hehe
> >>
> >> Beef cattle or a kind of
> >> >bull is male
> >> >and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
> >> >
> >> >ami I right?
> >>
> >> Go he
> >>
> >>
http://www.tracker-outdoors.com/livestock_terms.htm
> >>

> >
> >Good collection but they missed the ox.

>
> Oxen are generally not considered food animals. And it's difficult to

compile
> a listing for beef as different culture's designations and terminology

differ.
> You need to accept the list at the website I provided contexturally.


It is a comprehensive list. It is probably the current oxtail soup thread
that stimulated curiosity about the ox. And yeah, I know that oxtails
aren't from oxen any more. And I am pretty sure that the mystery pig
coil is a tail. Enough tales of tails?

pavane


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Thank you everyone for your response. It sure has cleared up a couple of things for me.

However more to the point:

When you go to the supermarket to buy beef, what are you buying?

Cow? Steer? What?

Thanks again

Robert


On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 01:53:51 -0400, RD > wrote:

>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert


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Thank you everyone for your response. It sure has cleared up a couple of things for me.

However more to the point:

When you go to the supermarket to buy beef, what are you buying?

Cow? Steer? What?

Thanks again

Robert


On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 01:53:51 -0400, RD > wrote:

>Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
>Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
>Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>
>The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
>and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
>ami I right?
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert


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RD wrote:
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>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>



Beef cattle can be either male of female. It's a breed, not a gender.
Angus, Charolais, Tarantaise, Longhorn, are all types of beef cattle.
There are many more.


> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.



Milk cows are female, of course, but of types specifically
bred for milk, like Holsteins, Guernseys, Jerseys, etc.
There are also males of these species who are bred to the
females to keep the milk coming.



> Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>


Beef can come from steers (castrated males) or heifers (females).
Intact males are usually kept for breeding purposes, not meat, I
believe.

gloria p


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RD wrote:
>



>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>



Beef cattle can be either male of female. It's a breed, not a gender.
Angus, Charolais, Tarantaise, Longhorn, are all types of beef cattle.
There are many more.


> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk.



Milk cows are female, of course, but of types specifically
bred for milk, like Holsteins, Guernseys, Jerseys, etc.
There are also males of these species who are bred to the
females to keep the milk coming.



> Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>


Beef can come from steers (castrated males) or heifers (females).
Intact males are usually kept for breeding purposes, not meat, I
believe.

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RD wrote:

> Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
> Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>
> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert



You are close. Beef comes from young cattle -- heifers or young
castrated males (steers). Cow meat *is* available if you special order
it. It's good for making beef sausage because it binds to the fat
better than meat from a heifer or young steer.

Cow meat comes from retired dairy cows; it is tough, and I suspect most
of it goes to making pet food, canned meat products, and beef hotdogs.

Bob
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RD wrote:

> Can you clear up this up for me please;
>
> Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>
> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>
> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>
> ami I right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert



You are close. Beef comes from young cattle -- heifers or young
castrated males (steers). Cow meat *is* available if you special order
it. It's good for making beef sausage because it binds to the fat
better than meat from a heifer or young steer.

Cow meat comes from retired dairy cows; it is tough, and I suspect most
of it goes to making pet food, canned meat products, and beef hotdogs.

Bob
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The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males are
called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.
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The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males are
called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.


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>(Nancree) says:
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>The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
>(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males are
>called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.


None of which is factual.




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>(Nancree) says:
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>The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
>(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males are
>called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.


None of which is factual.




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>(Nancree) says:
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>The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
>(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males are
>called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.


None of which is factual.




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Any cattle used for milking or breeding milk cows would be far to old to be
tender enough for "meat". Note that cattle are considered "mature" at 9
months, meaning they can reproduce. Muscle tissue begins to toughen as the
animal matures. Most meat raised to slaughter for food consumption comes
from much younger animals than one would usually guess. Applies to sheep,
swine and chickens too.

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> >(Nancree) says:
> >
> >The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
> >(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males

are
> >called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.

>
> None of which is factual.
>
>
>
>
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Any cattle used for milking or breeding milk cows would be far to old to be
tender enough for "meat". Note that cattle are considered "mature" at 9
months, meaning they can reproduce. Muscle tissue begins to toughen as the
animal matures. Most meat raised to slaughter for food consumption comes
from much younger animals than one would usually guess. Applies to sheep,
swine and chickens too.

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
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> >(Nancree) says:
> >
> >The term "beef cattle" refers to heifers (neutered females) and steers
> >(neutered males) which are raised to be consumed as beef. Adult males

are
> >called bulls and adult females are called milk cows.

>
> None of which is factual.
>
>
>
>
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Well, thanks again everyone for your responses. I greatly appreciate it.

Robert



On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:28:30 -0500, zxcvbob > wrote:

>RD wrote:
>
>> Can you clear up this up for me please;
>>
>> Red meat that you buy at your butcher is beef.
>>
>> Beef comes from beef cattle, very rarely from a cow. Cow meat is tougher and darker.
>>
>> The cow is female and has udders and gives milk. Beef cattle or a kind of bull is male
>> and is the main provider of the red meat known as beef.
>>
>> ami I right?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Robert

>
>
>You are close. Beef comes from young cattle -- heifers or young
>castrated males (steers). Cow meat *is* available if you special order
>it. It's good for making beef sausage because it binds to the fat
>better than meat from a heifer or young steer.
>
>Cow meat comes from retired dairy cows; it is tough, and I suspect most
>of it goes to making pet food, canned meat products, and beef hotdogs.
>
>Bob


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