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Katra > wrote in
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote: > > A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > $9.99. So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote: > > A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > $9.99. So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote: > > A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > $9.99. So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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Katra wrote:
> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! And that's a big plonko for the racist. Brian Rodenborn |
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Katra wrote:
> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! And that's a big plonko for the racist. Brian Rodenborn |
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Katra wrote:
> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! And that's a big plonko for the racist. Brian Rodenborn |
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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? Notice the 12 vs. 6. Bob |
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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? Notice the 12 vs. 6. Bob |
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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? Notice the 12 vs. 6. Bob |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:25:10 GMT, "Paul M. Cook©®"
> wrote: > > No it is not just you. Food prices are skyrocketing. Produce in my area is > now more expensive than beef. Seriously. A head of lettuce is 1.35. > Mushrooms are 3.25 a pound. We grow produce not 30 miles from where I live > yet the price is as high as meat. Milk is off the chart, cheese is 4 bucks > a pound and butter has been 5 bucks for well over a year now. One reason in > SoCal is the cost of water as it is drying up, pun intended, very rapidly. > That's the American way! We grow the artichokes, but all the best ones go to the East Coast where they sell 'em cheap. We buy the "leftovers" (smaller and blemished) and are charged the same or more than "they" pay for our beauties. Gas is the same way. I can literally see an oil refinery (if I'm in the right part of town), but pay one of the highest gas prices in the nation. Why? Because they say we can "afford it". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:25:10 GMT, "Paul M. Cook©®"
> wrote: > > No it is not just you. Food prices are skyrocketing. Produce in my area is > now more expensive than beef. Seriously. A head of lettuce is 1.35. > Mushrooms are 3.25 a pound. We grow produce not 30 miles from where I live > yet the price is as high as meat. Milk is off the chart, cheese is 4 bucks > a pound and butter has been 5 bucks for well over a year now. One reason in > SoCal is the cost of water as it is drying up, pun intended, very rapidly. > That's the American way! We grow the artichokes, but all the best ones go to the East Coast where they sell 'em cheap. We buy the "leftovers" (smaller and blemished) and are charged the same or more than "they" pay for our beauties. Gas is the same way. I can literally see an oil refinery (if I'm in the right part of town), but pay one of the highest gas prices in the nation. Why? Because they say we can "afford it". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:25:10 GMT, "Paul M. Cook©®"
> wrote: > > No it is not just you. Food prices are skyrocketing. Produce in my area is > now more expensive than beef. Seriously. A head of lettuce is 1.35. > Mushrooms are 3.25 a pound. We grow produce not 30 miles from where I live > yet the price is as high as meat. Milk is off the chart, cheese is 4 bucks > a pound and butter has been 5 bucks for well over a year now. One reason in > SoCal is the cost of water as it is drying up, pun intended, very rapidly. > That's the American way! We grow the artichokes, but all the best ones go to the East Coast where they sell 'em cheap. We buy the "leftovers" (smaller and blemished) and are charged the same or more than "they" pay for our beauties. Gas is the same way. I can literally see an oil refinery (if I'm in the right part of town), but pay one of the highest gas prices in the nation. Why? Because they say we can "afford it". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message ... > sf wrote: > > > On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > Notice the 12 vs. 6. > > Bob Yeah, thanks for pointing that out so I didn't have to, Bob. I love good beer, but for the quantity that I drink, I can't justify the cost, so I drink the cheap stuff. :~ ( kili |
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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message ... > sf wrote: > > > On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > Notice the 12 vs. 6. > > Bob Yeah, thanks for pointing that out so I didn't have to, Bob. I love good beer, but for the quantity that I drink, I can't justify the cost, so I drink the cheap stuff. :~ ( kili |
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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message ... > sf wrote: > > > On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > > > > So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > Notice the 12 vs. 6. > > Bob Yeah, thanks for pointing that out so I didn't have to, Bob. I love good beer, but for the quantity that I drink, I can't justify the cost, so I drink the cheap stuff. :~ ( kili |
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> Default LUser
> >Katra wrote: > >> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! > >And that's a big plonko for the racist. > >Brian Rodentborn Arab is not a race, it's an ethnicity... you uneducated ignoranus. With that the only good Arabs are hoofed ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> Default LUser
> >Katra wrote: > >> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! > >And that's a big plonko for the racist. > >Brian Rodentborn Arab is not a race, it's an ethnicity... you uneducated ignoranus. With that the only good Arabs are hoofed ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> Default LUser
> >Katra wrote: > >> Get real. Most arabs are worse than animals! > >And that's a big plonko for the racist. > >Brian Rodentborn Arab is not a race, it's an ethnicity... you uneducated ignoranus. With that the only good Arabs are hoofed ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
>I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? The only food prices I watch closely are my wholesale prices, and they have gone up indeed. The most glaring a Flour... up 40% Milk... up 35% Coffee... up 20% |
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Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
>I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? The only food prices I watch closely are my wholesale prices, and they have gone up indeed. The most glaring a Flour... up 40% Milk... up 35% Coffee... up 20% |
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kilikini wrote: > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > Well let's look on the bright side: per gallon milk is still a good bargain as compared to the ink in inkjet printer cartridges :-| -- Best Greg |
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sf wrote in message ... >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > wrote: > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > coors isnt imported. -- saerah TANSTAAFL " I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the world I live in. - Carl Sherman |
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sf wrote in message ... >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > wrote: > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > coors isnt imported. -- saerah TANSTAAFL " I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the world I live in. - Carl Sherman |
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sf wrote in message ... >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > wrote: > >> >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is >> $9.99. > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > coors isnt imported. -- saerah TANSTAAFL " I, as a good human being, love nonsense. It helps me understand the world I live in. - Carl Sherman |
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:55:25 -0400, "Saerah"
> wrote: > > sf wrote in message ... > >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > > coors isnt imported. I agree - but now that you've mentioned it... Hmmmm. Kili what you call Coors? To me it's as domestic as Bud. FYI: On the West COAST, Coors isn't considered "the good stuff". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:55:25 -0400, "Saerah"
> wrote: > > sf wrote in message ... > >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > > coors isnt imported. I agree - but now that you've mentioned it... Hmmmm. Kili what you call Coors? To me it's as domestic as Bud. FYI: On the West COAST, Coors isn't considered "the good stuff". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:55:25 -0400, "Saerah"
> wrote: > > sf wrote in message ... > >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > >> $9.99. > > > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > > coors isnt imported. I agree - but now that you've mentioned it... Hmmmm. Kili what you call Coors? To me it's as domestic as Bud. FYI: On the West COAST, Coors isn't considered "the good stuff". sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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"sf" > wrote in message news  > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 00:55:25 -0400, "Saerah" > > wrote: > > > > > sf wrote in message ... > > >On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:16:22 GMT, "kilikini" > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> A 12-pack of Coors Light is $11.99 here! A six pack of "good" beer is > > >> $9.99. > > > > > >So, the "imported" stuff is less? All brands? > > > > > > > coors isnt imported. > > I agree - but now that you've mentioned it... Hmmmm. > Kili what you call Coors? To me it's as domestic as Bud. > > FYI: On the West COAST, Coors isn't considered "the good > stuff". > > > sf > Practice safe eating - always use condiments It *is* a domestic. My point being, GOOD beer; Sam Adams, Sierra Nevada, etc. - is basically $10 a 6-pack. If you drink in large quantities (which I tend to do) you may want to go mass-produced domestic because it's considerably cheaper, but still expensive as things go. That's all I was saying. kili |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ink.net... > > kilikini wrote: > > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > > > > Well let's look on the bright side: per gallon milk is still a good bargain > as compared to the ink in inkjet printer cartridges :-| > > -- > Best > Greg > > > Oh gosh, and you aren't kidding! kili |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ink.net... > > kilikini wrote: > > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > > > > Well let's look on the bright side: per gallon milk is still a good bargain > as compared to the ink in inkjet printer cartridges :-| > > -- > Best > Greg > > > Oh gosh, and you aren't kidding! kili |
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"kilikini" > wrote in message >. ..
> "Wayne" > wrote in message > ... > > notbob > wrote in > > news:2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53: > > > > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. > > > I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into > > > overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all > > > prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but > > > reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last > > > year. Some examples of current prices: > > > > > > butter $5+ lb > > > bacon $6+ lb > > > eggs $3-4 doz > > > bread $3.50+ loaf > > > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > > > cereal $4-5 box > > > > > > > I thought our prices were bad, but these are insane! I can still get > > butter for around $2/lb, bacon $3/lb, eggs $1.20/doz. Cereal is almost > > as high as yours, as is American Cheese. What gets me is ordinary ground > > beef for $5-6/lb. > > > > -- > > Wayne in Phoenix > > > > If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > kili Where do you live? Sheesh! -L. |
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"kilikini" > wrote in message >. ..
> "Wayne" > wrote in message > ... > > notbob > wrote in > > news:2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53: > > > > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. > > > I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into > > > overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all > > > prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but > > > reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last > > > year. Some examples of current prices: > > > > > > butter $5+ lb > > > bacon $6+ lb > > > eggs $3-4 doz > > > bread $3.50+ loaf > > > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > > > cereal $4-5 box > > > > > > > I thought our prices were bad, but these are insane! I can still get > > butter for around $2/lb, bacon $3/lb, eggs $1.20/doz. Cereal is almost > > as high as yours, as is American Cheese. What gets me is ordinary ground > > beef for $5-6/lb. > > > > -- > > Wayne in Phoenix > > > > If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > kili Where do you live? Sheesh! -L. |
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"-L. :" > wrote in message om... > "kilikini" > wrote in message >. .. > > "Wayne" > wrote in message > > ... > > > notbob > wrote in > > > news:2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53: > > > > > > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. > > > > I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into > > > > overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all > > > > prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but > > > > reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last > > > > year. Some examples of current prices: > > > > > > > > butter $5+ lb > > > > bacon $6+ lb > > > > eggs $3-4 doz > > > > bread $3.50+ loaf > > > > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > > > > cereal $4-5 box > > > > > > > > > > I thought our prices were bad, but these are insane! I can still get > > > butter for around $2/lb, bacon $3/lb, eggs $1.20/doz. Cereal is almost > > > as high as yours, as is American Cheese. What gets me is ordinary ground > > > beef for $5-6/lb. > > > > > > -- > > > Wayne in Phoenix > > > > > > If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > > > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > > > kili > > Where do you live? Sheesh! > > -L. Maui the land of paradise If you can afford to eat.kili |
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"-L. :" > wrote in message om... > "kilikini" > wrote in message >. .. > > "Wayne" > wrote in message > > ... > > > notbob > wrote in > > > news:2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53: > > > > > > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. > > > > I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into > > > > overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all > > > > prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but > > > > reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last > > > > year. Some examples of current prices: > > > > > > > > butter $5+ lb > > > > bacon $6+ lb > > > > eggs $3-4 doz > > > > bread $3.50+ loaf > > > > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > > > > cereal $4-5 box > > > > > > > > > > I thought our prices were bad, but these are insane! I can still get > > > butter for around $2/lb, bacon $3/lb, eggs $1.20/doz. Cereal is almost > > > as high as yours, as is American Cheese. What gets me is ordinary ground > > > beef for $5-6/lb. > > > > > > -- > > > Wayne in Phoenix > > > > > > If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > > > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > > > kili > > Where do you live? Sheesh! > > -L. Maui the land of paradise If you can afford to eat.kili |
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"-L. :" > wrote in message om... > "kilikini" > wrote in message >. .. > > "Wayne" > wrote in message > > ... > > > notbob > wrote in > > > news:2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53: > > > > > > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. > > > > I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into > > > > overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all > > > > prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but > > > > reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last > > > > year. Some examples of current prices: > > > > > > > > butter $5+ lb > > > > bacon $6+ lb > > > > eggs $3-4 doz > > > > bread $3.50+ loaf > > > > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > > > > cereal $4-5 box > > > > > > > > > > I thought our prices were bad, but these are insane! I can still get > > > butter for around $2/lb, bacon $3/lb, eggs $1.20/doz. Cereal is almost > > > as high as yours, as is American Cheese. What gets me is ordinary ground > > > beef for $5-6/lb. > > > > > > -- > > > Wayne in Phoenix > > > > > > If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > > > > I'm paying those high prices too. Milk is $7.99 a gallon. > > > > kili > > Where do you live? Sheesh! > > -L. Maui the land of paradise If you can afford to eat.kili |
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Is It Just Me....
PENMART01 wrote:
> ****ing moslems [...] ****ing moslems [...] ****ing > moslems [...] ****ing > moslems [...] ****ing moslems > [...] ****ing > moslems [...] ****ing > moslems [...] ****ing moslems [...] ****ing moslems > [...] ****ing moslem > [...] ****ing moslems [...] ****ing moslem [...] > ****ing moslem [...] ****ING MOSLEMS. You know, muslim sexual preferences really have nothing to do with anything. > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon And I find such a post with this signature added to be ****ing hysterical... -- ..-. .-. .---. .---. .-..-.|Experts in Linux/Unix: www.WildOpenSource.com | |__ / | \| |-< | |-< > / |"Making the bazaar more commonplace" `----'`-^-'`-'`-'`-'`-' `-' |Check out my new novel: "Cloud Realm" at: home:www.smith-house.org:8000|http://www.smith-house.org:8000/books/list.html |
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