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....or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at least a little.... The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. Anyone else notice this or is it just me? -- Best Greg |
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>...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in
>the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >least a little.... > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > >-- >Best >Greg I have noticed. And it seems to be getting worse. Not only have prices gone up but what you get per package has gone down. The quality of meats, fruits and veggies have also gone down, at least in my area. I would say that our food budget has gone up 10% in the last year for the exact same foods from the year before. ~Kat "help is on the way" ~John Kerry |
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>...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in
>the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >least a little.... > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > >-- >Best >Greg I have noticed. And it seems to be getting worse. Not only have prices gone up but what you get per package has gone down. The quality of meats, fruits and veggies have also gone down, at least in my area. I would say that our food budget has gone up 10% in the last year for the exact same foods from the year before. ~Kat "help is on the way" ~John Kerry |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
ink.net: > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > No, it's not just you. I shop regularly and I don't think I noticed as much increase as there has been. OTOH, my SO shops rarely and was with me on a recent trip to the supermarket. He had not been shopping for at least six months, and commented after only a aisle or two how much things had gone up. As we discussed it and continued shopping, it became much more apparent to me as well. -- Wayne in Phoenix If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
ink.net: > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > No, it's not just you. I shop regularly and I don't think I noticed as much increase as there has been. OTOH, my SO shops rarely and was with me on a recent trip to the supermarket. He had not been shopping for at least six months, and commented after only a aisle or two how much things had gone up. As we discussed it and continued shopping, it became much more apparent to me as well. -- Wayne in Phoenix If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. |
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> "Gregory Morrow" writes:
> >...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in >the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >least a little.... > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** on it. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> "Gregory Morrow" writes:
> >...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in >the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >least a little.... > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** on it. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> jarkat2002 opines:
> >>...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in >>the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >>reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >>least a little.... >> >>The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >>bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >>it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... >> >>I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >>scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >>get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >>fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. >> >>Anyone else notice this or is it just me? >> >>Greg > >I have noticed. And it seems to be getting worse. Not only have prices gone >up but what you get per package has gone down. The quality of meats, fruits >and >veggies have also gone down, at least in my area. >I would say that our food budget has gone up 10% in the last year for the >exact >same foods from the year before. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> jarkat2002 opines:
> >>...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in >>the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various >>reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at >>least a little.... >> >>The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a >>bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking >>it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... >> >>I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from >>scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to >>get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a >>fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. >> >>Anyone else notice this or is it just me? >> >>Greg > >I have noticed. And it seems to be getting worse. Not only have prices gone >up but what you get per package has gone down. The quality of meats, fruits >and >veggies have also gone down, at least in my area. >I would say that our food budget has gone up 10% in the last year for the >exact >same foods from the year before. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> Duh'Wayne farted:
> >"Gregory Morrow" wrote: > >> Anyone else notice this or is it just me? >> > >No, it's not just you. I shop regularly and I don't think I noticed as >much increase as there has been. OTOH, my SO shops rarely and was with me >on a recent trip to the supermarket. He had not been shopping for at least >six months, and commented after only a aisle or two how much things had >gone up. As we discussed it and continued shopping, it became much more >apparent to me as well. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> Duh'Wayne farted:
> >"Gregory Morrow" wrote: > >> Anyone else notice this or is it just me? >> > >No, it's not just you. I shop regularly and I don't think I noticed as >much increase as there has been. OTOH, my SO shops rarely and was with me >on a recent trip to the supermarket. He had not been shopping for at least >six months, and commented after only a aisle or two how much things had >gone up. As we discussed it and continued shopping, it became much more >apparent to me as well. BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ink.net... > > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... > > The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... I've noticed price jumps for meats, fish and almost all dairy products especially those higher in butterfat content. But those items can represent the biggest chunk of the grocery bill. Fresh produce doesn't seem to have changed much. Eggs prices have dropped from their ultra high levels of a year ago. |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message ink.net... > > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... > > The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... I've noticed price jumps for meats, fish and almost all dairy products especially those higher in butterfat content. But those items can represent the biggest chunk of the grocery bill. Fresh produce doesn't seem to have changed much. Eggs prices have dropped from their ultra high levels of a year ago. |
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Sheldon wrote: > Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and > so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing > moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing > moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems > farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to > operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the > corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing > moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing > moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. > Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small > percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent > people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because > of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are > diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem > oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I > have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** > on it. Can't snip a word - my sentiments *'zactly*. I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. Islam is a far, *far* worse menace to the world than National Socialsim or Communism ever were. I *hate* 'em, just HATE 'em. They are the antithesis of everything I cherish in life and society. It's a real pity that we can't at least round up and deport from the US every single last Muslim. I'd prefer extermination, but then all the idiot bleeding heart liberals would raise a hue and cry. All one has to do is look at how the Muslims have infested Europe - unfortunately it's too late for France, Germany, the UK, Holland and some other countries. Those Europeans are gonna be *mighty* sorry that they let the scumbags in.... Now all of you out there who are going to pipe up that I'm "racist" or "intolerant" listen up: they'd very gladly slit *your* throats, too. There is no such thing as a "tolerant" or "accepting" Muslim...they want to destroy anyone and everything that does not share their evil medieval belief system.... -- Best Greg "The BEST Muslim is a DEAD Muslim..." .. |
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Sheldon wrote: > Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and > so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing > moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing > moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems > farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to > operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the > corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing > moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing > moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. > Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small > percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent > people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because > of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are > diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem > oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I > have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** > on it. Can't snip a word - my sentiments *'zactly*. I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. Islam is a far, *far* worse menace to the world than National Socialsim or Communism ever were. I *hate* 'em, just HATE 'em. They are the antithesis of everything I cherish in life and society. It's a real pity that we can't at least round up and deport from the US every single last Muslim. I'd prefer extermination, but then all the idiot bleeding heart liberals would raise a hue and cry. All one has to do is look at how the Muslims have infested Europe - unfortunately it's too late for France, Germany, the UK, Holland and some other countries. Those Europeans are gonna be *mighty* sorry that they let the scumbags in.... Now all of you out there who are going to pipe up that I'm "racist" or "intolerant" listen up: they'd very gladly slit *your* throats, too. There is no such thing as a "tolerant" or "accepting" Muslim...they want to destroy anyone and everything that does not share their evil medieval belief system.... -- Best Greg "The BEST Muslim is a DEAD Muslim..." .. |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in k.net: > I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that > a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a > cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. > > Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single > adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. [...] Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same discourse being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard Drumont and Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. -- Please note that this post contains no overt anti-USAian statements of any sort, nor is it designed to excite the political passions of the morally bankrupt right-wing supporters of the emerging fascist states...unfortunately :-) |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
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Sam D.wrote: > I've noticed price jumps for meats, fish and almost all dairy products > especially those higher in butterfat content. But those items can > represent the biggest chunk of the grocery bill. Fresh produce doesn't > seem to have changed much. Eggs prices have dropped from their ultra > high levels of a year ago. Yeah, eggs were *really* high in the past year. Last week my local soopermarket had them for 79 cents per dozen, which is the best price I've seen in a while. I've noticed that run - of - the - mill cheese is hardly ever on sale much, they used to run good sales at least every month or so but I haven't seen a good cheese sale in quite a while...milk has come down from it's lofty price, I can usually find it for $2.49 per gallon somewhere. Butter was $2.50 per pound last week, which is cheaper than it has been. There have been some pretty good sales on ice cream, but hey, 'tis the season.... And yeah, produce hasn't seemed to be that much more expensive...here in Chicawgo I can hop a bus and go up to Argyle St. (a mostly Vietnamese area) and get vegetables good and cheap. Same with Mexican, but they tore down my great local supermercado and put up a bunch of yuppiescum condos in it's place :-( The City of Chicago website used to have a weekly price comparison of a "basket" of common grocery items but the last one was posted in 2002 (such are things in "The City That Works). Does anyone know of a similar site? -- Best Greg |
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Sam D.wrote: > I've noticed price jumps for meats, fish and almost all dairy products > especially those higher in butterfat content. But those items can > represent the biggest chunk of the grocery bill. Fresh produce doesn't > seem to have changed much. Eggs prices have dropped from their ultra > high levels of a year ago. Yeah, eggs were *really* high in the past year. Last week my local soopermarket had them for 79 cents per dozen, which is the best price I've seen in a while. I've noticed that run - of - the - mill cheese is hardly ever on sale much, they used to run good sales at least every month or so but I haven't seen a good cheese sale in quite a while...milk has come down from it's lofty price, I can usually find it for $2.49 per gallon somewhere. Butter was $2.50 per pound last week, which is cheaper than it has been. There have been some pretty good sales on ice cream, but hey, 'tis the season.... And yeah, produce hasn't seemed to be that much more expensive...here in Chicawgo I can hop a bus and go up to Argyle St. (a mostly Vietnamese area) and get vegetables good and cheap. Same with Mexican, but they tore down my great local supermercado and put up a bunch of yuppiescum condos in it's place :-( The City of Chicago website used to have a weekly price comparison of a "basket" of common grocery items but the last one was posted in 2002 (such are things in "The City That Works). Does anyone know of a similar site? -- Best Greg |
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Michel Boucher wrote: > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in k.net: > > > I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that > > a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a > > cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. > > > > Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single > > adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. > > [...] > > Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same discourse > being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard Drumont and > Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice life in the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. That's one of the reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such a backwards belief system - they cherish death. -- Best Greg |
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Michel Boucher wrote: > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in k.net: > > > I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that > > a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a > > cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. > > > > Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single > > adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. > > [...] > > Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same discourse > being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard Drumont and > Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice life in the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. That's one of the reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such a backwards belief system - they cherish death. -- Best Greg |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in ink.net: >> Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same >> discourse being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard >> Drumont and Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. > > But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) No, but people thought they did and that was good enough for them. And look what happened. It's not exactly a bright moment in the history of the planet. > Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice > life in the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. > That's one of the reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such > a backwards belief system - they cherish death. Actually, you're wrong. My experience with Islamic followers, as well as what knowledge I do have of Islam, is that they cherish life. But they will not accept to live under any sort of abject circumstances and spiralling poverty. Would you accept it if armed Muslims told you you had to live like they do now in the Gaza strip? Be honest here. How would you react? Again, be honest. The debate on both sides has degenerated to the point where it is intensely vitriolic. There is an old Persian saying that says if two people argue, they are both wrong. As a long-time observer of this deteriorating situation, I think that judgment applies. -- Please note that this post contains no overt anti-USAian statements of any sort, nor is it designed to excite the political passions of the morally bankrupt right-wing supporters of the emerging fascist states...unfortunately :-) |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
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"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in ink.net: > > >> Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same > >> discourse being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard > >> Drumont and Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. > > > > But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) > > No, but people thought they did and that was good enough for them. > And look what happened. It's not exactly a bright moment in the > history of the planet. > > > Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice > > life in the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. > > That's one of the reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such > > a backwards belief system - they cherish death. > > Actually, you're wrong. My experience with Islamic followers, as > well as what knowledge I do have of Islam, is that they cherish life. > But they will not accept to live under any sort of abject > circumstances and spiralling poverty. Would you accept it if armed > Muslims told you you had to live like they do now in the Gaza strip? The living conditions in the Gaza Strip are a result of the neglect of the surrounding Arab states to provide a home for them.. As such they are cruelly used as a political pawn by the likes of Saudi Arabia, etc. If Islam supposedly teaches charity and brotherhood towards your fellow believers why is there even a Gaza Strip? The squalid lives these people live is a consequence of Arab indifference. Heck, the Kuwaitis even kicked out all the "Palestinians" in their country after the end of the '91 war. You'd think what with all that oil dough the Kuwaiti's could have at least given them a nice "severance package".... > Be honest here. How would you react? Again, be honest. > Well I certainly wouldn't go around terror bombing innocent civilians on buses, in pizza parlours, and the like.... > The debate on both sides has degenerated to the point where it is > intensely vitriolic. There is an old Persian saying that says if two > people argue, they are both wrong. As a long-time observer of this > deteriorating situation, I think that judgment applies. You are always a gentleman despite what differences may occur on this here froup :-) -- Best Greg |
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"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in ink.net: > > >> Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same > >> discourse being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard > >> Drumont and Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. > > > > But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) > > No, but people thought they did and that was good enough for them. > And look what happened. It's not exactly a bright moment in the > history of the planet. > > > Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice > > life in the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. > > That's one of the reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such > > a backwards belief system - they cherish death. > > Actually, you're wrong. My experience with Islamic followers, as > well as what knowledge I do have of Islam, is that they cherish life. > But they will not accept to live under any sort of abject > circumstances and spiralling poverty. Would you accept it if armed > Muslims told you you had to live like they do now in the Gaza strip? The living conditions in the Gaza Strip are a result of the neglect of the surrounding Arab states to provide a home for them.. As such they are cruelly used as a political pawn by the likes of Saudi Arabia, etc. If Islam supposedly teaches charity and brotherhood towards your fellow believers why is there even a Gaza Strip? The squalid lives these people live is a consequence of Arab indifference. Heck, the Kuwaitis even kicked out all the "Palestinians" in their country after the end of the '91 war. You'd think what with all that oil dough the Kuwaiti's could have at least given them a nice "severance package".... > Be honest here. How would you react? Again, be honest. > Well I certainly wouldn't go around terror bombing innocent civilians on buses, in pizza parlours, and the like.... > The debate on both sides has degenerated to the point where it is > intensely vitriolic. There is an old Persian saying that says if two > people argue, they are both wrong. As a long-time observer of this > deteriorating situation, I think that judgment applies. You are always a gentleman despite what differences may occur on this here froup :-) -- Best Greg |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... Price of fuel... Everything ends up being trucked towards the end of it's journey, so the price of gas is going to affect everything we buy! That is what ticks me off about it so much. This can do serious damage to the economy and the powers that be are doing nothing about it. :-( K. > > The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > > I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from > scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to > get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a > fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... Price of fuel... Everything ends up being trucked towards the end of it's journey, so the price of gas is going to affect everything we buy! That is what ticks me off about it so much. This can do serious damage to the economy and the powers that be are doing nothing about it. :-( K. > > The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > > I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from > scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to > get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a > fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in ink.net: >> Would you accept it if >> armed Muslims told you you had to live like they do now in the >> Gaza strip? > > The living conditions in the Gaza Strip are a result of the > neglect of the surrounding Arab states to provide a home for > them.. Actually, the British are to blame for creating the zone after the entry of jewish troops in the late 1940s and then not enforcing agreements made with various states. >> Be honest here. How would you react? Again, be honest. > > Well I certainly wouldn't go around terror bombing innocent > civilians on buses, in pizza parlours, and the like.... Easier said than not done, I would think. By which I mean you can say that because you don't actually face the situation head on day after day. >> The debate on both sides has degenerated to the point where it is >> intensely vitriolic. There is an old Persian saying that says if >> two people argue, they are both wrong. As a long-time observer >> of this deteriorating situation, I think that judgment applies. > > You are always a gentleman despite what differences may occur on > this here froup :-) Thank you. This froup does indeed provide hours of scintillating entertainment. Who needs reality TV when you have r.f.c :-) -- Please note that this post contains no overt anti-USAian statements of any sort, nor is it designed to excite the political passions of the morally bankrupt right-wing supporters of the emerging fascist states...unfortunately :-) |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in ink.net: >> Would you accept it if >> armed Muslims told you you had to live like they do now in the >> Gaza strip? > > The living conditions in the Gaza Strip are a result of the > neglect of the surrounding Arab states to provide a home for > them.. Actually, the British are to blame for creating the zone after the entry of jewish troops in the late 1940s and then not enforcing agreements made with various states. >> Be honest here. How would you react? Again, be honest. > > Well I certainly wouldn't go around terror bombing innocent > civilians on buses, in pizza parlours, and the like.... Easier said than not done, I would think. By which I mean you can say that because you don't actually face the situation head on day after day. >> The debate on both sides has degenerated to the point where it is >> intensely vitriolic. There is an old Persian saying that says if >> two people argue, they are both wrong. As a long-time observer >> of this deteriorating situation, I think that judgment applies. > > You are always a gentleman despite what differences may occur on > this here froup :-) Thank you. This froup does indeed provide hours of scintillating entertainment. Who needs reality TV when you have r.f.c :-) -- Please note that this post contains no overt anti-USAian statements of any sort, nor is it designed to excite the political passions of the morally bankrupt right-wing supporters of the emerging fascist states...unfortunately :-) |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more > expensive in the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products > have for various reasons spiked up in price, but most everything > seems to have gone up at least a little.... > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? Sure, I've noticed it. Sometimes in the form of outright price increases, sometimes in the form of fewer ounces for the same price as the former more-ounces packaging. Graham crackers. A 2-pound box now weighs something 26-28 ounces. And the crackers themselves have gotten smaller -- just think how screwed up those old recipes will be -- the ones that said, "line a 9"square pan with 9 graham cracker squares. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 7/22/04. |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more > expensive in the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products > have for various reasons spiked up in price, but most everything > seems to have gone up at least a little.... > Anyone else notice this or is it just me? Sure, I've noticed it. Sometimes in the form of outright price increases, sometimes in the form of fewer ounces for the same price as the former more-ounces packaging. Graham crackers. A 2-pound box now weighs something 26-28 ounces. And the crackers themselves have gotten smaller -- just think how screwed up those old recipes will be -- the ones that said, "line a 9"square pan with 9 graham cracker squares. -- -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 7/22/04. |
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(PENMART01) wrote: > > "Gregory Morrow" writes: > > > >...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > >the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > >least a little.... > > > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > > > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from > >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to > >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a > >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > > > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > > Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and > so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing > moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE > ****ing > moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing > moslems > farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to > operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the > corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing > moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing > moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. > Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively > small > percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent > people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now > because > of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are > diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem > oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. > I > have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd > **** > on it. > > BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS. > > > Sheldon ```````````` As much as I hate to even get involved with such a racist post, he does have a point. :-( Somewhat... Shel' honey, there are other sources of oil other than what the Arabs are supplying. We have plenty of our own reserves, and Mexico and Russia are also suppliers and I think Russia is part of OPEC. African oil sources are being opened up shortly. And there is plenty of oil in Alaska. With proper management, oil wells do not have to damage the wildlife. Part of the blame has to fall on our greedy-assed oil barons here in the US. If they would not buy arabian oil, (boycott it if it gets over a certain price), they would be forced to bring the prices back down. We do NOT have to buy Moslem oil! K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > Michel Boucher wrote: > > > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > > in k.net: > > > > > I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that > > > a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a > > > cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. > > > > > > Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single > > > adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. > > > > [...] > > > > Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same discourse > > being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard Drumont and > > Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. > > > But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) Yes they did, but not with violence. <lol> They were going about it the same way the Japanese are now. Financially. > > Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice life in > the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. That's one of the > reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such a backwards belief system - > they cherish death. Sad isn't it? Too bad we cannot just spay and neuter them all, and give the remaining children a _real_ ecucation instead of training them all to be Imams (or however the hell you spell that!) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote: > Michel Boucher wrote: > > > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > > in k.net: > > > > > I'd compare Muslims to cockroaches, but you have to remember that > > > a cockroach doesn't make any decisions of it's own free will - a > > > cockroach just *is*...whereas Islam is a human construct. > > > > > > Islam is an *evil*, EVIL religion and therefore *every* single > > > adherent to Islam is evil simply by dint of association. > > > > [...] > > > > Put Jews instead of Muslims and you have exactly the same discourse > > being held a hundred years ago by the likes of Édouard Drumont and > > Henry Ford. Plus çà change plus c'est la même chose. > > > But the Jews never sought to take over the world :-) Yes they did, but not with violence. <lol> They were going about it the same way the Japanese are now. Financially. > > Judaism cherishes life in the here and now. Islam promises a nice life in > the hereafter, especially if one is a "martyr" for Allah. That's one of the > reasons why Islam as it is practiced now is such a backwards belief system - > they cherish death. Sad isn't it? Too bad we cannot just spay and neuter them all, and give the remaining children a _real_ ecucation instead of training them all to be Imams (or however the hell you spell that!) K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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On 2004-08-02, Gregory Morrow > wrote:
> > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last year. Some examples of current prices: butter $5+ lb bacon $6+ lb eggs $3-4 doz bread $3.50+ loaf Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt cereal $4-5 box Fish is now 'off the hook!'. Talapia fillets, which were considered trash fish just 2 yrs ago and went for $ 4 lb, now go for $6-8 lb. The one saving grace is, all this stuff eventually goes on sale. Seriously, I don''t buy anything that is not AT LEAST 50% OFF!! And, it all goes on sale eventully. The key is, save your money, do without, wait for that sale, and buy a shit load!! Well, buy a bunch.  (bone in chicken breastjust went on sale for $.99lb. Guess what I'm gonna do  nb |
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On 2004-08-02, Gregory Morrow > wrote:
> > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > least a little.... No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. I've been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into overdrive in the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all prices are beyond insane, it will seem even more extreme, but reletively the prices have still jumped at least 25-50% in the last year. Some examples of current prices: butter $5+ lb bacon $6+ lb eggs $3-4 doz bread $3.50+ loaf Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt cereal $4-5 box Fish is now 'off the hook!'. Talapia fillets, which were considered trash fish just 2 yrs ago and went for $ 4 lb, now go for $6-8 lb. The one saving grace is, all this stuff eventually goes on sale. Seriously, I don''t buy anything that is not AT LEAST 50% OFF!! And, it all goes on sale eventully. The key is, save your money, do without, wait for that sale, and buy a shit load!! Well, buy a bunch. (bone in chicken breastjust went on sale for $.99lb. Guess what I'm gonna do nb |
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"PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > > "Gregory Morrow" writes: > > > >...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > >the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > >least a little.... > > > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > > > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from > >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to > >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a > >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > > > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > > Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and > so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing > moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing > moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems > farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to > operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the > corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing > moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing > moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. > Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small > percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent > people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because > of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are > diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem > oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I > have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** > on it. > > BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS. > > > ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > ********* > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon > ```````````` You're repeating yourself, Sheldon. We understand your viewpoint. kili |
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"PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > > "Gregory Morrow" writes: > > > >...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > >the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > >reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > >least a little.... > > > >The only real exception I've noticed is orange juice - there has been a > >bumper crop of oranges and because of the Atikins mania fewer are drinking > >it, so OJ is a relative bargain these days.... > > > >I hew to a fairly strict grocery budget, use coupons, cook a lot from > >scratch, and tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale...I'm not the type to > >get a hundred bucks from the ATM and go grocery shopping just because it's a > >fun thing to do. I always make a list and stick to it. > > > >Anyone else notice this or is it just me? > > Blame the ****ing moslems. The ****ing moslems initiated a religious war and > so the cost of black gold went through the roof. Because of the ****ing > moslems everything that moves costs considerably more. Because of thE ****ing > moslems moving food to market costs a heap more. Because of the ****ing moslems > farm equipment, farM equipment all over the world, costs much more to > operate... yoose think those 360 Horsepower John Deeres out in the > corn/wheat/etc fields run on Horseshit... hell no, because of the ****ing > moslems the price of diesel has doubled since 9/11. Because of the ****ing > moslems food processing costs considerably more, especially cooking fuel. > Fortunately Americans don't have it so bad (food represents a relatively small > percentage of disposable income), but because of the ****ing moslems innocent > people all over the world are hungry, many are starving to death. Now because > of the ****ing moslems the scientists at all the US national laboratories are > diligently working at perfecting energy sources other than ****ing moslem > oil... and very soon ALL the ****ing moslems are going to starve, to death. I > have no use for any ****ing moslem... I find a ****ing moslem drowning I'd **** > on it. > > BLAME THE ****ING MOSLEMS. > > > ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- > ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > ********* > "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > Sheldon > ```````````` You're repeating yourself, Sheldon. We understand your viewpoint. kili |
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In article <2ikPc.233097$XM6.65938@attbi_s53>,
notbob > wrote: > On 2004-08-02, Gregory Morrow > > wrote: > > > > ...or does anyone else think that groceries have gotten more expensive in > > the last year or so? Beef, chicken, and dairy products have for various > > reasons spiked up in price, but most everything seems to have gone up at > > least a little.... > > No, it's not just you. Prices have gone up way more than 'a little'. I've > been ranting about it for over two years now and it's gone into overdrive in > the last year. Naturally, out here in CA, where all prices are beyond > insane, it will seem even more extreme, but reletively the prices have still > jumped at least 25-50% in the last year. Some examples of current prices: > > butter $5+ lb > bacon $6+ lb > eggs $3-4 doz > bread $3.50+ loaf > Amrcn cheese $5 per 16 cnt > cereal $4-5 box Sheeeeit! I need to go into the mail order grocery business! :-o I can still get eggs for 79 to 99 cents per dozen! Butter runs about $3.00 per lb. (and that is considered high), bread is 79 cents per loaf for the generic whole wheat, American cheese (in fact most cheese) is still around $3.50 per lb. Cereal and bacon, I have no idea as I dont generally buy it, but I can get "bacon ends and pieces" in a 3 lb. box for bean flavoring for under $2.00 per lb... I can still get chicken hindquarters for 79 cents per lb. nearly all the time, and catfish nuggets for under $1.50 per lb. I hate tilapia. :-P K. > > Fish is now 'off the hook!'. Talapia fillets, which were considered trash > fish just 2 yrs ago and went for $ 4 lb, now go for $6-8 lb. > > The one saving grace is, all this stuff eventually goes on sale. Seriously, > I don''t buy anything that is not AT LEAST 50% OFF!! And, it all goes on > sale eventully. The key is, save your money, do without, wait for that > sale, and buy a shit load!! Well, buy a bunch. (bone in chicken breast> just went on sale for $.99lb. Guess what I'm gonna do > > nb > > > > > -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... >,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,< http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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