>
>And that is probably a good place.
>
>A 9 year old needs proper guidance, but should not be forced to eat
>EVERYTHING. Most people will find a food or two that is repulsive to them
>but is a real treat for others. If that is the case, they should be given
>(allowed) alternatives.
>Ed

I am in agreement! My youngest son didn't like dishes that had little things
cut up in it, like meat loaf, potato salad, etc. He would sit there and pick
out all this stuff. I let him do it but I refused to cook different meals just
for him. My daughter doused ketchup on all veggies except for corn. I let
her. They still ate well enough to become healthy adults . My other son ate
mostly everything. I did my best to make things they liked, never forced them
to eat anything, but refused to cater to these quirks.

This brings to mind a Graduation Party I hosted for my oldest Grandchild. This
was an outdoor affair with barbecue etc. I had one large table filled with
appetizers, dips,etc. Another table we were in the process of setting up with
all the salads, sides, etc. My Stepson's girlfriend, (meeting her for the
first time), came into the kitchen to announce that she didn't like anything
on the table. I turned to her and said that she had a big problem. I continued
to finish setting up the tables. Mind you, I had over 100 guests and enoug to
feed many more. If she couldn.t find anything to eat, that was her problem. A
good time was had by all. I believe she ate something, but I certainly wasn't
going to worry about it. Subsequently, on many occasions, she visited my house
and tasted and ate anything I happened to have prepared.

Florence

>
>And that is probably a good place.
>
>A 9 year old needs proper guidance, but should not be forced to eat
>EVERYTHING. Most people will find a food or two that is repulsive to them
>but is a real treat for others. If that is the case, they should be given
>(allowed) alternatives.
>Ed

I am in agreement! My youngest son didn't like dishes that had little things
cut up in it, like meat loaf, potato salad, etc. He would sit there and pick
out all this stuff. I let him do it but I refused to cook different meals just
for him. My daughter doused ketchup on all veggies except for corn. I let
her. They still ate well enough to become healthy adults . My other son ate
mostly everything. I did my best to make things they liked, never forced them
to eat anything, but refused to cater to these quirks.

This brings to mind a Graduation Party I hosted for my oldest Grandchild. This
was an outdoor affair with barbecue etc. I had one large table filled with
appetizers, dips,etc. Another table we were in the process of setting up with
all the salads, sides, etc. My Stepson's girlfriend, (meeting her for the
first time), came into the kitchen to announce that she didn't like anything
on the table. I turned to her and said that she had a big problem. I continued
to finish setting up the tables. Mind you, I had over 100 guests and enoug to
feed many more. If she couldn.t find anything to eat, that was her problem. A
good time was had by all. I believe she ate something, but I certainly wasn't
going to worry about it. Subsequently, on many occasions, she visited my house
and tasted and ate anything I happened to have prepared.

Florence

Peace man.... must be nice to have perfect kids.. Will be nice when they
fall nose first in the real world (school)

--
Will~

The problem with this world is stupidity, now I'm not saying there should
be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself?


"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:jS8Rc.263140$XM6.91190@attbi_s53...
> raymond wrote:
>
> > It's useless to try to *ask* a nine-year-old to do anything. You
> > *tell* a nine-year-old to finish the plate.
>
>
> This speaks volumes about the way you relate to people, not just
> children. What a sad situation where 9 year olds are so unhappy with
> their own parents that they won't do anything the parents say unless
> coerced. I imagine it is the same way with your co-workers, employees,
> and wife. Notice I didn't say friends. Do you have any? How do you
> get them to eat at your home unless you tell them to finish what's on
> their plate?
>
>
> In my world, kids are essentially cooperative. There are times now and
> then when they might get yelled at, have a privilege removed, be on the
> receiving end of a lecture or be put in a time out, but those times are
> short lived and rare. The rest of the time, no orders are given, and
> everyone cooperates with everyone else in a spirit of love and fun.
>
>
> --Lia
>

Peace man.... must be nice to have perfect kids.. Will be nice when they
fall nose first in the real world (school)

--
Will~

The problem with this world is stupidity, now I'm not saying there should
be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself?


"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:jS8Rc.263140$XM6.91190@attbi_s53...
> raymond wrote:
>
> > It's useless to try to *ask* a nine-year-old to do anything. You
> > *tell* a nine-year-old to finish the plate.
>
>
> This speaks volumes about the way you relate to people, not just
> children. What a sad situation where 9 year olds are so unhappy with
> their own parents that they won't do anything the parents say unless
> coerced. I imagine it is the same way with your co-workers, employees,
> and wife. Notice I didn't say friends. Do you have any? How do you
> get them to eat at your home unless you tell them to finish what's on
> their plate?
>
>
> In my world, kids are essentially cooperative. There are times now and
> then when they might get yelled at, have a privilege removed, be on the
> receiving end of a lecture or be put in a time out, but those times are
> short lived and rare. The rest of the time, no orders are given, and
> everyone cooperates with everyone else in a spirit of love and fun.
>
>
> --Lia
>

Willow wrote:
> Peace man.... must be nice to have perfect kids.. Will be nice when they
> fall nose first in the real world (school)


I've noticed that the kids brought up with constant punishment and
coercion most likely land in jail.

--Lia

Julian9EHP wrote:
> The monomaniac asks Are they good in smoothies?

Just like any other peach. I would say that if I were pitting a fruit,
I'd pit a big fruit rather than three little ones. Tastes the same as a
nice ripe regular "white" peach, but what a perfect size for a toddler!
blacksalt

sf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > wrote:
>
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
> Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
>
> sf
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

These were labeled "saturn peaches" by a certain farm. They look like a
peach that is an achondroplastic dwarf (the dwarfs most commonly seen,
especially actors....there was on who was pals with Kramer, and one on
the old show Wild Wild West). Say, the dashshund or basset hound of the
peach world.
blacksalt

sf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > wrote:
>
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
> Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
>
> sf
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

These were labeled "saturn peaches" by a certain farm. They look like a
peach that is an achondroplastic dwarf (the dwarfs most commonly seen,
especially actors....there was on who was pals with Kramer, and one on
the old show Wild Wild West). Say, the dashshund or basset hound of the
peach world.
blacksalt

>From: kalanamak

[ . . . ]

>donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
>some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
>the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!

The monomaniac asks Are they good in smoothies?


E. P.

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> wrote:

> donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!


Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> wrote:

> donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!


Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> wrote:

> donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!


Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

I couldn't help but leave the whole post, below, to which my response is :

"Horseshit. You sound a few feather shy of a full duck. I suppose all this
Terrible Food Abuse you suffered explains why you are now a mess of a witchy
rodent? Oh, please. Just pull yourself together."



> And "settled" with an eating disorder in later life, no doubt.
> I had this sort of treatment metered on me by a school teacher as a seven
> year old and it was no doubt responsible for my fear of eating in public
and
> eating in general thereafter. She would force me (or other children who
> passed up on any item offered for school dinners) to eat every bite in her
> office, standing over us, sometimes forcing the food into our mouths, even
> if it took all afternoon, following us to the bathroom and waiting outside
> the cubicle door until we came out or denying us toilet visits completely.
> We then went back into her office if we did get to go to the bathroom and
> were forced again to eat. If we wouldn't put the food in our mouths we
were
> told we were not allowed to go home until we did and that our parents
would
> be called and would punish us severely for being so naughty. Vomiting,
> crying, begging or sheer panic associations invited in the slipper or a
> forced second helping. I hated her with all of my being.
> As a result of this I developed an eating disorder that meant I could not
be
> watched whilst I ate, by anyone, including my family (who, once they found
> out this treatment was being handed out to primary school children, were
> utterly horrified.) In my teens I couldn't go to Maccy Do's, or dinner at
> friend's houses, or eat in public at all, for fear of being forced into or
> coerced into eating something I couldn't stomach - even things I
previously
> liked became objects of terror if I might have to eat in company. The
smell
> of food would make me physically sick in some cases.
>
> Only when I met my ex husband, aged twenty, did I start to recover. When
I
> met him I weighed around six stone (I am five foot five.)
>
> Some children just don't like certain foods, just as adults. I hate
broccoli
> and I'm thirty one ! My attitude to my step-kids-to-be when it comes to
food
> has always been, take what you want and eat what you take, as someone else
> said here. If you are messing for sure then no dessert - and most parents
> can tell the difference between "I genuinely don't like this" and "I am
just
> messing about for attention", IME. But the sort of so-called "tough love"
> that implies you'll get beaten for not eating your greens only satisifies
> one thing - the power hungry barely repressed whim of the sadist metering
it
> out, and it *will* cause long term problems. If you're willing to do that
to
> your kids for the sake of a plate of eaten broccoli, then you shouldn't
have
> children in the first place, and I pity your dogs (mine are happy and
> healthy and obedient without being beaten or starved, thanks very much.)
You
> can catch alot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, at any
rate.
>
> Just my two pennies worth.
>
>

"Nancree" wrote in message
> Try giving him/her a small plate (salad size or smaller) with very small
> portions of each food. Cut up vegetables. Think how threatening a big
spear
> of broccoli can look to someone who doesn't like it. Ask them to finish
the
> plate before they get more of everything.

The small plate is a good idea. I raised three and didn't have a problem -
the small child got small portions of everything. I ignored whether they
ate or not - just took the plate after about 20 minutes and said nothing.
Desserts were rare (usually on Sundays or special occasions) and I didn't
stock anything like soft drinks, cookies, chips, pretzels, other snacks,
period. Amazing how hungry that child can soon become by the next meal.
"Yes, we'll soon have dinner - go and wash your hands."

Was I concerned? Of course, but not enough to let the child see that or it
becomes a weapon and leads to a wrangle, where the child always wins.

It didn't take long for that smallest child to fall in line with the rest of
the gang, yet no fuss had been made.

When I would listen to my DIL cajole, fuss, bribe and get irritated with her
children, and they would pull away and say, "No, no", it was hard to keep
quiet. Those kids are college age now and still turn up their noses at
some things. My two sons and daughter are now excellent cooks (and could
stand to lose a little weight!!).

Who knows if my way was best - it just worked for my family and me.

Dora

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > wrote:
>
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
>
> Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
>
> sf

And me, too. Any more information out there?

Dora

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > wrote:
>
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
>
> Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
>
> sf

And me, too. Any more information out there?

Dora

"sf" > wrote in message
>
>
> Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
>

It is a flat looking peach. Generally costs twice or more than what normal
peaches are. They are sometimes called Flying Saucer peaches or Saturn
peaches. Never tried one as the cost is very high and not worth the bother
just because it looks different.
Ed

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:48:56 -0500, wrote:


> kid can go without eating uncouth vulgar plants

I haven't met an uncouth, vulgar broccoli in my life!



Cute little html sig, maura - but turn it off when posting
to usenet. OK?

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

kalanamak wrote:

> ObFood:
> donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!

Lucky you! They are still around USD3.00 a pound locally in ABQ. We
bought a couple early in the season and they were delicious, sweet and
juicy. None of the ones bought sporadically since then have been very
good.

limey wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
> >
> >
> > Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
> >
> > sf
>
> And me, too. Any more information out there?
>
> Dora

Look up donut or Saturn or UFO peaches. Just peaches that look as though
they have been flattened from top to bottom.

>> You TELL the kid to eat it. They refuse, fine. They get the same
>> thing on their plate for the next meal. They get NOTHING ELSE until
>> they eat
>> it. You keep doing this until they eat it.
>>
>> For instance, they will not eat broccoli at supper. First, no desert
>> or snacks. They get the broccoli for breakfast. If they eat it, THEN
>> they can have a "normal" breakfast. They don't eat it, back in the
>> fridge until lunch and we do it again, and again and again until they
>> do eat it. I promise they will eat it by day 3 AND THEY WILL BE NO
>> WORSE FOR IT (and they will not starve either). Of course you may be
>> "a little worse for wear" with all the yelling and screaming, but that
>> is another issue that is best handled in the "woodshed".
>>
>> There is no such thing as an unruly child or dog, just ineffectual
>> parents/owners.
>
>You sound just like "Mommy Dearest"!
>
Yes, you do. So when are you coming around to my house for
andouillettes, lambs' fry and beet leaves? I actually like all those,
but most adults don't.

IMHO, it's the parents' responsibility to provide healthy food and
enforce table manners. It's the child's responsibility to decide how
much of the food to eat. It's the parents' responsibility to make sure
that missed broccoli doesn't mean a festive meal of crisps later. We
manage this by never having crisps in the house.
--
Jane Lumley

>> You TELL the kid to eat it. They refuse, fine. They get the same
>> thing on their plate for the next meal. They get NOTHING ELSE until
>> they eat
>> it. You keep doing this until they eat it.
>>
>> For instance, they will not eat broccoli at supper. First, no desert
>> or snacks. They get the broccoli for breakfast. If they eat it, THEN
>> they can have a "normal" breakfast. They don't eat it, back in the
>> fridge until lunch and we do it again, and again and again until they
>> do eat it. I promise they will eat it by day 3 AND THEY WILL BE NO
>> WORSE FOR IT (and they will not starve either). Of course you may be
>> "a little worse for wear" with all the yelling and screaming, but that
>> is another issue that is best handled in the "woodshed".
>>
>> There is no such thing as an unruly child or dog, just ineffectual
>> parents/owners.
>
>You sound just like "Mommy Dearest"!
>
Yes, you do. So when are you coming around to my house for
andouillettes, lambs' fry and beet leaves? I actually like all those,
but most adults don't.

IMHO, it's the parents' responsibility to provide healthy food and
enforce table manners. It's the child's responsibility to decide how
much of the food to eat. It's the parents' responsibility to make sure
that missed broccoli doesn't mean a festive meal of crisps later. We
manage this by never having crisps in the house.
--
Jane Lumley

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> limey wrote:
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped
for
> > > > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth
around
> > > > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
> > >
> > >
> > > Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
> > >
> > > sf
> >
> > And me, too. Any more information out there?
> >
> > Dora
>
> Look up donut or Saturn or UFO peaches. Just peaches that look as though
> they have been flattened from top to bottom.

Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
expensive gimmick?
Just wondering.

Dora

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> limey wrote:
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped
for
> > > > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth
around
> > > > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
> > >
> > >
> > > Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
> > >
> > > sf
> >
> > And me, too. Any more information out there?
> >
> > Dora
>
> Look up donut or Saturn or UFO peaches. Just peaches that look as though
> they have been flattened from top to bottom.

Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
expensive gimmick?
Just wondering.

Dora

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 21:34:55 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 14:48:56 -0500, wrote:
>
>
>> kid can go without eating uncouth vulgar plants
>
>I haven't met an uncouth, vulgar broccoli in my life!
>
>
>sf
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments

it's the brussels sprouts that are boorish. ask the other vegetables,
they'll tell you.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400, "limey"
> wrote:

> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
> expensive gimmick?
> Just wondering.

I was wondering the opposite...
I wonder if it's something that occurs naturally and instead
gave it a cute and and charged a lot so people wouldn't
consider them "seconds".

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400, "limey"
> wrote:

> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
> expensive gimmick?
> Just wondering.

I was wondering the opposite...
I wonder if it's something that occurs naturally and instead
gave it a cute and and charged a lot so people wouldn't
consider them "seconds".

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400, "limey"
> wrote:

> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
> expensive gimmick?
> Just wondering.

I was wondering the opposite...
I wonder if it's something that occurs naturally and instead
gave it a cute and and charged a lot so people wouldn't
consider them "seconds".

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

>Barbara Llorente
>
>>"limey" wrote:
>>
>> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
>> expensive gimmick?
>> Just wondering.
>
>I was wondering the opposite...
>I wonder if it's something that occurs naturally and instead
>gave it a cute and and charged a lot so people wouldn't
>consider them "seconds".

I love eating a sweet juicy peach, so long as it ain't *sloppy* "seconds". hehe





---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

>Barbara Llorente
>
>>"limey" wrote:
>>
>> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
>> expensive gimmick?
>> Just wondering.
>
>I was wondering the opposite...
>I wonder if it's something that occurs naturally and instead
>gave it a cute and and charged a lot so people wouldn't
>consider them "seconds".

I love eating a sweet juicy peach, so long as it ain't *sloppy* "seconds". hehe





---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400, "limey" wrote:
>
>> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it
>> just an expensive gimmick? Just wondering.
>
>
> I was wondering the opposite... I wonder if it's something that
> occurs naturally and instead gave it a cute and and charged a lot so
> people wouldn't consider them "seconds".
>


If you can't fix it, feature it!

Best regards,
Bob

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400, "limey" wrote:
>
>> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it
>> just an expensive gimmick? Just wondering.
>
>
> I was wondering the opposite... I wonder if it's something that
> occurs naturally and instead gave it a cute and and charged a lot so
> people wouldn't consider them "seconds".
>


If you can't fix it, feature it!

Best regards,
Bob

limey wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > limey wrote:
> > >
> > > "sf" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:47:17 -0700, kalanamak
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped
> for
> > > > > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth
> around
> > > > > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Donut peaches!? That's a new one for me.
> > > >
> > > > sf
> > >
> > > And me, too. Any more information out there?
> > >
> > > Dora
> >
> > Look up donut or Saturn or UFO peaches. Just peaches that look as though
> > they have been flattened from top to bottom.
>
> Did the growers feel the usual peach needed improving - or is it just an
> expensive gimmick?
> Just wondering.
>
> Dora


Hard to say. Could be a natural mutation that is exploited and marketed
cleverly. They don't taste any better than a decently ripe peach.

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> kalanamak wrote:
>
> > ObFood:
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
> Lucky you! They are still around USD3.00 a pound locally in ABQ. We
> bought a couple early in the season and they were delicious, sweet and
> juicy. None of the ones bought sporadically since then have been very
> good.

What is a "donut peach", please?

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> kalanamak wrote:
>
> > ObFood:
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
> Lucky you! They are still around USD3.00 a pound locally in ABQ. We
> bought a couple early in the season and they were delicious, sweet and
> juicy. None of the ones bought sporadically since then have been very
> good.

What is a "donut peach", please?

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

In article >, Arri London >
wrote:

> kalanamak wrote:
>
> > ObFood:
> > donut peaches are cheap here, right now, and so I finally popped for
> > some. They are less messy to eat! Since you can get your mouth around
> > the whole edge there is no territory to drip onto your chin!
>
> Lucky you! They are still around USD3.00 a pound locally in ABQ. We
> bought a couple early in the season and they were delicious, sweet and
> juicy. None of the ones bought sporadically since then have been very
> good.

What is a "donut peach", please?

Miche

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-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"

Miche wrote:
>
> What is a "donut peach", please?

A breed of peach fruit that is almost torus shaped. Very narrow
in the center where the stem connects, but not quit open the
way a donut is.

They don't taste all that different from other breeds of peaches
in my opinion but they look cool.

Miche wrote:
>
> What is a "donut peach", please?

A breed of peach fruit that is almost torus shaped. Very narrow
in the center where the stem connects, but not quit open the
way a donut is.

They don't taste all that different from other breeds of peaches
in my opinion but they look cool.

> Yes, you do. So when are you coming around to my house for
> andouillettes, lambs' fry and beet leaves? I actually like all those,
> but most adults don't.
>
> IMHO, it's the parents' responsibility to provide healthy food and
> enforce table manners. It's the child's responsibility to decide how
> much of the food to eat. It's the parents' responsibility to make sure
> that missed broccoli doesn't mean a festive meal of crisps later. We
> manage this by never having crisps in the house.

What a huge amount of garbage just spewed out of your keyboard! It's like
this, Dear : Eat it, or you don't eat. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS IN THIS
MATTER AT ALL.

Christ, some people just fall all over children trying to be their "pals".
It's disgusting.