"Downer Cow Syndrome is described thus in "Black's Veterinary Dictionary" :
"Sometimes in cases of 'milk fever' (parturient paresis, hypo-calcaemia) a
cow goes down and never gets up again; even though the 'milk fever' itself
is treated successfully". The typically erudite article which gives details
of treatments and various suggested causes of the syndrome, concludes : "A
proportion of 'downer' cows are, in fact, cases of BOVINE SPONGIFORM
ENCEPHALOPATHY (BSE).""

"In 1985 Dr. Richard Marsh, a TSE researcher at the University of Wisconsin
investigating a mysterious outbreak of transmissible mink encephalopathy
(TME) in that state, found that the minks' diet consisted almost exclusively
of "downer" cows--animals too sick to stand. 100,000 downer cows die each
year in the US. In 1994 Marsh showed that when the brains of infected cattle
were fed to healthy mink, they developed TME; healthy cattle inoculated with
tissues obtained from TME-infected mink duly developed BSE."

""It sure doesn't say much that that's going to end up on your plate. When
it's dragged across the ground, you see what kind of environment it's in ...
feces, urine and mud ... then all of a sudden it's going to be fed to your
kids," Dr. Friedlander says."

"So where does this downer meat get sold? To be honest, consumers have no
way of finding out. You could buy some downer hamburger just about
anywhere."

"Increasingly, American cattle farmers feed their herds chicken manure"

"Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion
pounds of dead animals a year. There is simply no such thing in America as
an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be
welcomed by the embracing arms of the renderer.

Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm animals, is
euthanized pets-the six or seven million dogs and cats that are killed in
animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angeles alone, for example,
sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant
every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control
agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is not collected daily, and in the summer,
the better roadkill collection crews can generally smell it before they can
see it.)"

"The powder is used as an additive to almost ALL Pet food as well as to
Livestock feed."

"In 1995, five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were sold
for animal feed in the United States."

"They still munch, however, on ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs,
chickens, and turkeys, as well as blood and fecal matter of their own
species and that of chickens. About 75 percent of the ninety million beef
cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with
rendered animal parts. The use of animal excrement in feed is common as
well, as livestock operators have found it to be an efficient way of
disposing of a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes generated
annually by their industry."

Waiving the right to remain silent, "nick"
> said:

[whatever...]

See nicky attemping to wiggle out of the fact that only Engles have
died from mad cow.

If we've been eaing it for years, then we must be immune. Good for
us. I'm going out to have a nice, thick juicy steak.


--
Larry Jandro - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"Lord, are we worthy of the task that lies before us,
or are we just jerking off..?"

"nick" > wrote in message
news
> "Downer Cow Syndrome is described thus in "Black's Veterinary Dictionary"
:
> "Sometimes in cases of 'milk fever' (parturient paresis, hypo-calcaemia) a
> cow goes down and never gets up again; even though the 'milk fever' itself
> is treated successfully". The typically erudite article which gives
details
> of treatments and various suggested causes of the syndrome, concludes : "A
> proportion of 'downer' cows are, in fact, cases of BOVINE SPONGIFORM
> ENCEPHALOPATHY (BSE).""

You wouldn't be able to sell a cow with milk fever for human consumption.
And, milk fever is only one illness that can make a cow go down. Cows can
go down from phyiscal trauma, ie. broken leg. They can get coliform
mastitis. They can get something called a DA. When the cow calves, there's
obviously some empty space in there. In the time that it takes for
everything to get back into place, one of the cows stomachs can get twisted
around... There are so, so many reasons a cow can go down besides milk
fever. Defining Downer cow syndrom as just being caused by milk fever is
kind of narrow minded...

From my personal experiences with milk fever... A sucessfully treated animal
is going to be up and walking around again--at least by my definition of
successful treatment. Until my cow is up, I don't consider the treatment
sucessful. I don't think giving a cow with bse a tube of calcium is going to
make it better and appear to be sucessfully treated.. It may very well be
that some cows who were thought to have milk fever and did not recover had
bse, but I think it would be highly unlikely that a cow *sucessfully*
treated for milk fever really had bse.

What country is the book published in? England or US? I have never been
around a cow with bse, but I have been around a few with milk fever. To my
knowledge, milk fever onset is at calving and most often occurs in very high
producing dairy cattle, while bse can present at anytime in lactation or
even when the cow is dry. Also, the cows of ours that have had milk fever,
while very sick, have never acted like the cows in videos that I have seen
with bse. The cows on the newsfeeds with bse looked like litterally their
back legs were giving out from behind them while they were trying to walk.
They've lost neurological control A cow with milk fever just kind of sets
down and doesn't get back up. These cows are weak, but they have not lost
neurological control.

I would say if a vet confused bse with milk fever, I wouldn't want him or
her treating my cows.

What can you expect when the Government is run by people loyal to Big
Agribuisness?

nick wrote:

> "Downer Cow Syndrome is described thus in "Black's Veterinary Dictionary" :
> "Sometimes in cases of 'milk fever' (parturient paresis, hypo-calcaemia) a
> cow goes down and never gets up again; even though the 'milk fever' itself
> is treated successfully". The typically erudite article which gives details
> of treatments and various suggested causes of the syndrome, concludes : "A
> proportion of 'downer' cows are, in fact, cases of BOVINE SPONGIFORM
> ENCEPHALOPATHY (BSE).""
>
> "In 1985 Dr. Richard Marsh, a TSE researcher at the University of Wisconsin
> investigating a mysterious outbreak of transmissible mink encephalopathy
> (TME) in that state, found that the minks' diet consisted almost exclusively
> of "downer" cows--animals too sick to stand. 100,000 downer cows die each
> year in the US. In 1994 Marsh showed that when the brains of infected cattle
> were fed to healthy mink, they developed TME; healthy cattle inoculated with
> tissues obtained from TME-infected mink duly developed BSE."
>
> ""It sure doesn't say much that that's going to end up on your plate. When
> it's dragged across the ground, you see what kind of environment it's in ...
> feces, urine and mud ... then all of a sudden it's going to be fed to your
> kids," Dr. Friedlander says."
>
> "So where does this downer meat get sold? To be honest, consumers have no
> way of finding out. You could buy some downer hamburger just about
> anywhere."
>
> "Increasingly, American cattle farmers feed their herds chicken manure"
>
> "Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion
> pounds of dead animals a year. There is simply no such thing in America as
> an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be
> welcomed by the embracing arms of the renderer.
>
> Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm animals, is
> euthanized pets-the six or seven million dogs and cats that are killed in
> animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angeles alone, for example,
> sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant
> every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control
> agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is not collected daily, and in the summer,
> the better roadkill collection crews can generally smell it before they can
> see it.)"
>
> "The powder is used as an additive to almost ALL Pet food as well as to
> Livestock feed."
>
> "In 1995, five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were sold
> for animal feed in the United States."
>
> "They still munch, however, on ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs,
> chickens, and turkeys, as well as blood and fecal matter of their own
> species and that of chickens. About 75 percent of the ninety million beef
> cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with
> rendered animal parts. The use of animal excrement in feed is common as
> well, as livestock operators have found it to be an efficient way of
> disposing of a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes generated
> annually by their industry."
>
>
>

In article >,
Jaberwokie > wrote:

> What can you expect when the Government is run by people loyal to Big
> Agribuisness?


Fools to whine about their paranoia.

"Little John" > wrote in message

> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
women
> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.

"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.

Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
investigators are urgently trying to track it down."

Did it end up on your plate?

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:56:45 -0000, "nick"
> wrote:

>
>"Little John" > wrote in message
>
>> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
>women
>> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.
>
>"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
>encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
>for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.
>
>Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
>investigators are urgently trying to track it down."
>
>Did it end up on your plate?

I know it won't end up on mine - inferior merkin beef products haven't
been imported for decades.
Poor little john, it must be awful for him that beef is a
special-occasion dish to be eaten at Christmas. I have it any old
time, and I bet it's a lot better than his "huge slab of prime rib"
shit.

--
The Wit and Wisdom of Mort Davis:

On American children rummaging through rubbish for food:
"True, ythey gewt the inbrads in Parliment to do it"

His neo-con solution for world peace:
"When Europe ****s itsself again, I suggest we drop nukes on it until no
human life remains."

There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was walking around
just fine before I harvested it.

-David

In article >,
says...
>
>
>"Little John" > wrote in message
>
>> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
>women
>> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.
>
>"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
>encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
>for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.
>
>Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
>investigators are urgently trying to track it down."
>
>Did it end up on your plate?
>
>

--
David B. Horvath, CCP
Consultant, International Lecturer, Adjunct Professor
Author of "UNIX for the Mainframer" and other books.
*** remove ".nosuch" when replying ***

"David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
>
> There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was walking around
> just fine before I harvested it.
>
> -David

And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?


>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >
> >"Little John" > wrote in message
> >
> >> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
> >women
> >> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.
> >
> >"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
> >encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
> >for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.
> >
> >Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
> >investigators are urgently trying to track it down."
> >
> >Did it end up on your plate?
> >
> >
>

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:56:45 -0000, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity,
once again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard,
"nick" > two-fingered to all:

|>
|>"Little John" > wrote in message
|>
|>> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
|>women
|>> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.
|>
|>"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
|>encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
|>for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.
|>
|>Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
|>investigators are urgently trying to track it down."
|>
|>Did it end up on your plate?

Nope. We didn't have hamburger, we had prime rib. If you're gonna troll, at
least try to get your "facts" straight.


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"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
> "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> >
> > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was walking
around
> > just fine before I harvested it.
> >
> > -David
>
> And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
>
>
Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
micro-organisms.

-*MORT*-

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:12:04 GMT, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity, once
again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard, Dave
Whitmarsh > two-fingered to all:

|>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:56:45 -0000, "nick"
> wrote:
|>
|>>
|>>"Little John" > wrote in message
|>>
|>>> Christmas dinner was a huge slab of prime rib and the assorted rabbit food
|>>women
|>>> insist on tossing on the table next to a great hunk of beef.
|>>
|>>"The cow was unable to walk - a sign of BSE, or bovine spongiform
|>>encephalopathy, infection - and samples from the animal were sent to Britain
|>>for confirmation of the preliminary diagnosis of mad cow disease.
|>>
|>>Meat from the animal was, however, sent to three processing plants, and US
|>>investigators are urgently trying to track it down."
|>>
|>>Did it end up on your plate?
|>
|>I know it won't end up on mine - inferior merkin beef products haven't
|>been imported for decades.

Jealousy suits you.

|>Poor little john, it must be awful for him that beef is a
|>special-occasion dish to be eaten at Christmas.

In the land of plenty, nothing is a special occasion dish. We had smoked turkey
and Virginia ham for Thanksgiving, so we tossed on a slab o beef for Christmas.
For New Years, we'll have a seafood medley.

|>I have it any old
|>time, and I bet it's a lot better than his "huge slab of prime rib"
|>shit.

I seriously doubt it. But, you just go on thinking what you will. Nothing
anyone else could say would jump start your under worked neurons anyway.


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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:11:31 -0700, Little John
> wrote:

Found Bin Laden yet, son?

--
The Wit and Wisdom of Mort Davis:

On American children rummaging through rubbish for food:
"True, ythey gewt the inbrads in Parliment to do it"

His neo-con solution for world peace:
"When Europe ****s itsself again, I suggest we drop nukes on it until no
human life remains."

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:33:51 GMT, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity, once
again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard, Dave
Whitmarsh > two-fingered to all:

|>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:11:31 -0700, Little John
> wrote:
|>
|>Found Bin Laden yet, son?

I haven't been looking for him, marshy.


jammin1-at-jammin1-dot-com

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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:31:39 -0700, Little John
> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:33:51 GMT, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity, once
>again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard, Dave
>Whitmarsh > two-fingered to all:
>
>|>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:11:31 -0700, Little John
> wrote:
>|>
>|>Found Bin Laden yet, son?
>
>I haven't been looking for him, marshy.

The question was rhetorical, 'tardboy. Santa didn't bring you any wits
for Christmas, did he.


--
The Wit and Wisdom of Mort Davis:

On American children rummaging through rubbish for food:
"True, ythey gewt the inbrads in Parliment to do it"

His neo-con solution for world peace:
"When Europe ****s itsself again, I suggest we drop nukes on it until no
human life remains."

In article <5%4Hb.470158$Dw6.1382508@attbi_s02>,
"Morton Davis" > wrote:

> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> > >
> > > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was walking
> around
> > > just fine before I harvested it.
> > >
> > > -David
> >
> > And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
> >
> >
> Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
> micro-organisms.

If CWD is (like BSE) transmitted via prions, thorough cooking will not
make infected meat safe. Prions are not microorganisms - they are
misfolded proteins. The proteins survive cooking, freezing, and
practical levels of UV radiation.

--
Julian Vrieslander

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:32:41 GMT, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity, once
again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard, Dave
Whitmarsh > two-fingered to all:

|>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:31:39 -0700, Little John
> wrote:
|>
|>>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:33:51 GMT, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity,
once
|>>again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard, Dave
|>>Whitmarsh > two-fingered to all:
|>>
|>>|>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:11:31 -0700, Little John
> wrote:
|>>|>
|>>|>Found Bin Laden yet, son?
|>>
|>>I haven't been looking for him, marshy.
|>
|>The question was rhetorical, 'tardboy.

The question was irrelevant to the discussion, and does not meet the definition
of rhetorical, marshy. However, the answer was rhetorical.

|>Santa didn't bring you any wits
|>for Christmas, did he.

You call me "tardboy", and you still believe in Santa? bwaaaaahahahahaha


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Morton Davis wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> > >
> > > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was walking
> around
> > > just fine before I harvested it.
> > >
> > > -David
> >
> > And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
> >
> >
> Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
> micro-organisms.
>
> -*MORT*-

I don't eat wild game. And cooking doesn't do a thing to prions.

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
> Morton Davis wrote:
> >
> > "Arri London" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was
walking
> > around
> > > > just fine before I harvested it.
> > > >
> > > > -David
> > >
> > > And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
> > >
> > >
> > Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
> > micro-organisms.
> >
> > -*MORT*-
>
> I don't eat wild game. And cooking doesn't do a thing to prions.

Do you eat tame game, then?

"Yardpilot" > wrote in message
news:aesHb.479428$Dw6.1407601@attbi_s02...
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Morton Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > "Arri London" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was
> walking
> > > around
> > > > > just fine before I harvested it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
> > > micro-organisms.
> > >
> > > -*MORT*-
> >
> > I don't eat wild game. And cooking doesn't do a thing to prions.
>
> Do you eat tame game, then?
>
>
Guess what? That "mad cow" came from CANADA.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html Looks like Canadian beef
takes the main hit.

-*MORT*-

The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html

-*MORT*-

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:42:45 GMT, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:

>
>
>The "mad cow" came from CANADA.


Well you Americans caused the blackout.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:42:45 GMT, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:

>
>
>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>
>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>
>-*MORT*-
>
Keep eating your beef then Mort - you couldn't possible become madder
if you tried, you friggin loon.

--
The Wit and Wisdom of Mort Davis:

On American children rummaging through rubbish for food:
"True, ythey gewt the inbrads in Parliment to do it"

His neo-con solution for world peace:
"When Europe ****s itsself again, I suggest we drop nukes on it until no
human life remains."

Ah we have two people dying from CJD in around Spokane here.

I am more worried about all the CWD in whitetail deer populations.

D.H.

"nick" > wrote in message
news
> "Downer Cow Syndrome is described thus in "Black's Veterinary Dictionary"
:
> "Sometimes in cases of 'milk fever' (parturient paresis, hypo-calcaemia) a
> cow goes down and never gets up again; even though the 'milk fever' itself
> is treated successfully". The typically erudite article which gives
details
> of treatments and various suggested causes of the syndrome, concludes : "A
> proportion of 'downer' cows are, in fact, cases of BOVINE SPONGIFORM
> ENCEPHALOPATHY (BSE).""
>
> "In 1985 Dr. Richard Marsh, a TSE researcher at the University of
Wisconsin
> investigating a mysterious outbreak of transmissible mink encephalopathy
> (TME) in that state, found that the minks' diet consisted almost
exclusively
> of "downer" cows--animals too sick to stand. 100,000 downer cows die each
> year in the US. In 1994 Marsh showed that when the brains of infected
cattle
> were fed to healthy mink, they developed TME; healthy cattle inoculated
with
> tissues obtained from TME-infected mink duly developed BSE."
>
> ""It sure doesn't say much that that's going to end up on your plate. When
> it's dragged across the ground, you see what kind of environment it's in
....
> feces, urine and mud ... then all of a sudden it's going to be fed to your
> kids," Dr. Friedlander says."
>
> "So where does this downer meat get sold? To be honest, consumers have no
> way of finding out. You could buy some downer hamburger just about
> anywhere."
>
> "Increasingly, American cattle farmers feed their herds chicken manure"
>
> "Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion
> pounds of dead animals a year. There is simply no such thing in America as
> an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be
> welcomed by the embracing arms of the renderer.
>
> Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm animals, is
> euthanized pets-the six or seven million dogs and cats that are killed in
> animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angeles alone, for example,
> sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering
plant
> every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control
> agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is not collected daily, and in the
summer,
> the better roadkill collection crews can generally smell it before they
can
> see it.)"
>
> "The powder is used as an additive to almost ALL Pet food as well as to
> Livestock feed."
>
> "In 1995, five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were
sold
> for animal feed in the United States."
>
> "They still munch, however, on ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs,
> chickens, and turkeys, as well as blood and fecal matter of their own
> species and that of chickens. About 75 percent of the ninety million beef
> cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with
> rendered animal parts. The use of animal excrement in feed is common as
> well, as livestock operators have found it to be an efficient way of
> disposing of a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes
generated
> annually by their industry."
>
>
>

Morton Davis wrote:
> The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>
> -*MORT*-
>
>

Since when did HMG have anything to do with Canada?

Morton Davis wrote:
> The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html

Gowd damn Canucks! It's like were going to have to eat more beef and
give them a dose of great American liberation.

--
Chris.
http://****france.com/

Vengeance is a hamburger that is eaten cold, writes Georges Dupuy in
Liberation.

No wonder the French military is a band of sissies, look at where they
get their stock from. (800k mpeg file.)
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/frenchfighters.mpeg

funny mp3
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/horserace.mp3

The new Three Stooge's
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/happyfamily.jpg

Two clowns.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/groggyclown.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/nickclown.jpg

Groggy No-cite on the job site.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/gregatnicks.jpg

Dave Whitmarsh wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:42:45 GMT, "Morton Davis"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>
>>-*MORT*-
>>
>
> Keep eating your beef then Mort - you couldn't possible become madder
> if you tried, you friggin loon.

We have no worries, mate, unlike the rest of your ****ed up nation's
people, we don't consume spinal card and brain matter. Just the
delicious meat.

--
Chris.
http://****france.com/

Vengeance is a hamburger that is eaten cold, writes Georges Dupuy in
Liberation.

No wonder the French military is a band of sissies, look at where they
get their stock from. (800k mpeg file.)
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/frenchfighters.mpeg

funny mp3
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/horserace.mp3

The new Three Stooge's
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/happyfamily.jpg

Two clowns.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/groggyclown.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/nickclown.jpg

Groggy No-cite on the job site.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/gregatnicks.jpg

On 12/27/2003 10:06 PM, in article
, "Taffy Stoker"
> opined:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 04:42:45 GMT, "Morton Davis"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The "mad cow" came from CANADA.
>
>
> Well you Americans caused the blackout.

Shouldn't matter to you canadians, you're all too poor to have electricity
anyhow........................
--
=======================================
Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.
=======================================

Yardpilot wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Morton Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > "Arri London" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "David B. Horvath, CCP" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There was a big slab of deer meat on my plate. The animal was
> walking
> > > around
> > > > > just fine before I harvested it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -David
> > > >
> > > > And you know for certain it didn't have CWD?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Do you know for certain you do not have it? Thurough cooking kills
> > > micro-organisms.
> > >
> > > -*MORT*-
> >
> > I don't eat wild game. And cooking doesn't do a thing to prions.
>
> Do you eat tame game, then?


On occasion, I have eaten farm-raised pheasant and venison. Have
acquaintances in both businesses who provided a meal from time to time.

Morton Davis wrote:

> The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>

It looks like the US government is once again doing what it
does best, deflecting blame, releasing information before a
complete review of the facts. There seems to be a discrepancy
over the age and origin of the cow. The US originally quoted
slaughterhouse employees as saying that the cow was fully
mature, maybe 9-12 years old, but then released information
from the farm where it was raised that indicated it was 4 years
old. Meanwhile, the Canadian tag relates to a 6 year old
animal.

The cow also had an brucellosis vaccination ear tag, which
would indicate that it had been raised in the US because Canada
eradicated the disease in the 80s.

>In talk.politics.guns wrote:

>In article <9btHb.681835$Fm2.590185@attbi_s04>, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>
>>-*MORT*-
>
>Yeah, just like the terrorists from 9/11 came from Canada. Oh, and don't
>forget the power outage, that's Canada's fault too. LOL

Be safe. Nuke Canaduh now

In article <9btHb.681835$Fm2.590185@attbi_s04>, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:
>
>
>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>
>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>
>-*MORT*-

Yeah, just like the terrorists from 9/11 came from Canada. Oh, and don't
forget the power outage, that's Canada's fault too. LOL

****ing idiot.

"American officials originally said the infected animal was 4 1/2 years old.
But the ear tag identification linking the cow to an Alberta herd is for an
animal born in April 1997 -- making it 6 1/2 years old."

--

"The citizen's job is to be rude -- to pierce the comfort of professional intercourse by
boorish expressions of doubt." --John Ralston Saul

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:03:14 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>
>
>Morton Davis wrote:
>
>> The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>
>> http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>
>
>It looks like the US government is once again doing what it
>does best, deflecting blame, releasing information before a
>complete review of the facts.

Investigators Trace Diseased Cow to Canada
Federal Investigators Tentatively Trace Holstein Infected With Mad Cow
Disease to Canada

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Dec. 27 — Investigators tentatively traced the first U.S.
cow with mad cow disease to Canada,....

<snip>


Dr. Ron DeHaven, the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian, said
on Saturday that Canadian officials provided records indicating the
sick Holstein was in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada,
into this country in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:20:40 GMT, wrote:

>In article <9btHb.681835$Fm2.590185@attbi_s04>, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>
>>-*MORT*-
>
>Yeah, just like the terrorists from 9/11 came from Canada. Oh, and don't
>forget the power outage, that's Canada's fault too. LOL

You moose****ers need to be nuked.

>****ing idiot.

quoted

>"American officials originally said the infected animal was 4 1/2 years old.
>But the ear tag identification linking the cow to an Alberta herd is for an
>animal born in April 1997 -- making it 6 1/2 years old."

Canadian officials provided records indicating the sick Holstein was
in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada, into this country
in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.

Bogart wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:03:14 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Morton Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>>
>>>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>>
>>
>>It looks like the US government is once again doing what it
>>does best, deflecting blame, releasing information before a
>>complete review of the facts.
>
>
> Investigators Trace Diseased Cow to Canada
> Federal Investigators Tentatively Trace Holstein Infected With Mad Cow
> Disease to Canada
>
> The Associated Press
>
> WASHINGTON Dec. 27 — Investigators tentatively traced the first U.S.
> cow with mad cow disease to Canada,....
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Dr. Ron DeHaven, the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian, said
> on Saturday that Canadian officials provided records indicating the
> sick Holstein was in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada,
> into this country in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.

I was all a plot to kill our tasty spuds!!!!!!

--
Chris.
http://****france.com/

Vengeance is a hamburger that is eaten cold, writes Georges Dupuy in
Liberation.

No wonder the French military is a band of sissies, look at where they
get their stock from. (800k mpeg file.)
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/frenchfighters.mpeg

funny mp3
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/horserace.mp3

The new Three Stooge's
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/happyfamily.jpg

Two clowns.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/groggyclown.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/nickclown.jpg

Groggy No-cite on the job site.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/gregatnicks.jpg

Bogart wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:20:40 GMT, wrote:
>
>
>>In article <9btHb.681835$Fm2.590185@attbi_s04>, "Morton Davis"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The "mad cow" came from CANADA. Just another gift from HMG.
>>>
>>>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031227_1332.html
>>>
>>>-*MORT*-
>>
>>Yeah, just like the terrorists from 9/11 came from Canada. Oh, and don't
>>forget the power outage, that's Canada's fault too. LOL
>
>
> You moose****ers need to be nuked.

What they need is a healthy dose of good ol' American liberation.

--
Chris.
http://****france.com/

Vengeance is a hamburger that is eaten cold, writes Georges Dupuy in
Liberation.

No wonder the French military is a band of sissies, look at where they
get their stock from. (800k mpeg file.)
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/frenchfighters.mpeg

funny mp3
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/horserace.mp3

The new Three Stooge's
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/happyfamily.jpg

Two clowns.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/groggyclown.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/nickclown.jpg

Groggy No-cite on the job site.
http://www.geocities.com/libassbug/gregatnicks.jpg

Bogart wrote:

> >
> >It looks like the US government is once again doing what it
> >does best, deflecting blame, releasing information before a
> >complete review of the facts.
>
> Investigators Trace Diseased Cow to Canada
> Federal Investigators Tentatively Trace Holstein Infected With Mad Cow
> Disease to Canada
>
> The Associated Press
>
> WASHINGTON Dec. 27 =97 Investigators tentatively traced the first U.S.=

> cow with mad cow disease to Canada,....
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Dr. Ron DeHaven, the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian, said
> on Saturday that Canadian officials provided records indicating the
> sick Holstein was in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada,
> into this country in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.

And Canadian records showed it to be a six year old cow, not a 9-12 year
old fully matured cow as described by slaughterhouse records or a four
year old cow as per the records at the farm in Washington where the cow
was raised, as per an article in the Toronto Star:
http://www.thestar.ca/NASApp/cs/Cont...star/Layout/A=
rticle_Type1&c=3DArticle&cid=3D1072567809093&call_ pageid=3D968332188492&c=
ol=3D968793972154

In article m>, " Bogart "
> wrote:

<snip>

>>"American officials originally said the infected animal was 4 1/2 years old.
>>But the ear tag identification linking the cow to an Alberta herd is for an
>>animal born in April 1997 -- making it 6 1/2 years old."
>
>Canadian officials provided records indicating the sick Holstein was
>in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada, into this country
>in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.

Can you not read? The infected animal -- according to "American officials" --
was 4 1/2 years old. The cow from Canada is 6 1/2 years old.

They got the wrong one, it's yours, just like the first one:

"The final report into Canada's single case of mad cow disease could not
determine where the infected animal came from originally, but it did bring up
several possibilities, including a shipment of 25,000 pregnant cows from the
U.S. to Canada."

--

"The citizen's job is to be rude -- to pierce the comfort of professional intercourse by
boorish expressions of doubt." --John Ralston Saul

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:40:53 GMT, wrote:

>In article m>, " Bogart "
> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>>"American officials originally said the infected animal was 4 1/2 years old.
>>>But the ear tag identification linking the cow to an Alberta herd is for an
>>>animal born in April 1997 -- making it 6 1/2 years old."
>>
>>Canadian officials provided records indicating the sick Holstein was
>>in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada, into this country
>>in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.
>
>Can you not read?

Sure can, can you?

>The infected animal -- according to "American officials" --
>was 4 1/2 years old. The cow from Canada is 6 1/2 years old.

Er..no. The cite says:

Dr. Brian Evans, chief veterinary officer of the Canadian Food
Inspection Agency, emphasized that the cow's origins have yet to be
confirmed. He noted that details on the cow's records in the United
States do not match the ones kept in Canada.

Canadian papers show the cow had two calves before it was shipped to
the United States, which wasn't documented by U.S. officials.

Also, DeHaven said Canadian papers say the diseased cow was 6
1/2-years-old older than U.S. officials had thought. U.S. records say
the cow was 4- or 4 1/2-years-old.

Because of the discrepancies, Evans cautioned against "a premature
conclusion that the definitive animal or definitive birth place has
been located."


>They got the wrong one, it's yours, just like the first one:
>
>"The final report into Canada's single case of mad cow disease could not
>determine where the infected animal came from originally, but it did bring up
>several possibilities, including a shipment of 25,000 pregnant cows from the
>U.S. to Canada."

Nice if you provided a cit, Scoobie.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:39:30 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Bogart wrote:
>
>> >
>> >It looks like the US government is once again doing what it
>> >does best, deflecting blame, releasing information before a
>> >complete review of the facts.
>>
>> Investigators Trace Diseased Cow to Canada
>> Federal Investigators Tentatively Trace Holstein Infected With Mad Cow
>> Disease to Canada
>>
>> The Associated Press
>>
>> WASHINGTON Dec. 27 — Investigators tentatively traced the first U.S.
>> cow with mad cow disease to Canada,....
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Ron DeHaven, the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian, said
>> on Saturday that Canadian officials provided records indicating the
>> sick Holstein was in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada,
>> into this country in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.
>
>And Canadian records showed it to be a six year old cow, not a 9-12 year
>old fully matured cow as described by slaughterhouse records or a four
>year old cow as per the records at the farm in Washington where the cow
>was raised, as per an article in the Toronto Star:
>http://www.thestar.ca/NASApp/cs/Cont...l=968793972154
>

Don't stop at telling half a story....


U.S. officials believe they've traced the infected cow back to a dairy
farm north of Edmonton.

Dr. Ron DeHaven, chief veterinarian for the U.S. Agriculture
Department, said the animal was likely one of a herd of 74.

He said the dairy cows were imported into Idaho from Alberta in August
2001.

"We're talking about very preliminary information" from the Canadian
Food Inspection Agency and the Alberta herd owner, DeHaven said.

However, Evans argued it's premature to say Alberta was the source,
noting there are significant discrepancies in the animal's age.

DNA tests, expected within days, will conclusively prove or disprove a
Canadian connection, he said.