trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions
appreciated. thanks.

OhJeeez wrote:
>
> trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions
> appreciated. thanks.

I have a friend with a bad case of Crohn's, that's a toughy. I'm not
trying to blow you off or anything, but there is a newsgroup for these
diseases. alt.support.crohns-colitis They might be better help for
you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of guidance.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> OhJeeez wrote:
>>
>> trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any
>> suggestions appreciated. thanks.
>
> I have a friend with a bad case of Crohn's, that's a toughy. I'm not
> trying to blow you off or anything, but there is a newsgroup for these
> diseases. alt.support.crohns-colitis They might be better help for
> you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of guidance.
>
> nancy

Yep. I have (for now) a not very specific diagnosis; IBS. It was
recommended when the symptoms flare up I eat very bland food; that's tough
for me since I adore spicy food. I was instructed to use the BRAT diet to
start off. Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.

I was able to expand that to include boiled, mashed or baked potatoes;
boiled eggs; dry toast; plain pasta. Molly McButter became my friend for
potatoes and the eggs. A drizzle of olive oil in which I sauteed a little
minced garlic and a sprinkling of herbs made the pasta rather tasty.

Jill

In rec.food.cooking, jmcquown > wrote:
> Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.

Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?


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> In rec.food.cooking, jmcquown > wrote:
>> Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.
>
> Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?
>
>

Thre are plenty of decaf teas, not to mention herbal teas which never had
caffeine in the first place.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> Thre are plenty of decaf teas, not to mention herbal teas which never had
> caffeine in the first place.

Herbal teas aren't really teas. That's why they are referred to as
"tisanes" in many countries.

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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in
:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in
> message .. .
>>
>> Thre are plenty of decaf teas, not to mention herbal teas which never
>> had caffeine in the first place.
>
> Herbal teas aren't really teas. That's why they are referred to as
> "tisanes" in many countries.
>
> rona

Okay, but I think in the US that people often refer to them as teas.

Wayne

wrote:
> In rec.food.cooking, jmcquown > wrote:
>> Broth, rice, applesauce and tea. No caffeine; no dairy.
>
> Tea, but no caffeine? How does that work?

Herbal teas (tisanes, as Rona calls them). The idea is warm liquids and
bland food. Coffee is a tad too strong as are most sodas which contain
caffeine.

I prefer my tea with milk or cream, but when I'm afflicted with this I
cannot even add that and have to keep sugar to a minimum, too.

Jill

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:14:47 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Yep. I have (for now) a not very specific diagnosis; IBS.

I been trying to tell you this or years.

-sw

<< I'm not
trying to blow you off or anything, but there is a newsgroup for these
diseases. alt.support.crohns-colitis They might be better help for
you. Also, their doctor should give them plenty of guidance. >>

thanks. we've tried those... just looking to get more flavor back in her life.

thanks all. on caffine, that's been out of the question for some time because
of the osteoporosis (and chronic fatigue) issues, separate from but related to
the colitus, in as much as the meds don't interact well and caffine depletes
bone density.

Try searching for "low residue diet" and "low fiber diet". These
essentially mean the same thing, but better for you to double the odds of
success.

People with Crohns can eat whatever they want as long as it is in remission.
Once it flares up, the food needs to be stuff that is easily digested.
Avoid:
whole wheats, fried foods, smoked foods, seeds of any sort, raw
vegetables and fruits

Go For:
simple starches (potatoes, rice...), lean, tender meats


Dairy products seem to vary by individual. Spice is fine as long as seeds
aren't being consumed, however, if someone gets gassy from spicy food
normally, they should pass on them when flaring up.

Good luck

Bob (Crohn's for 6 years, 3 hospitalizations, 1 surgery... fighting off
another one...)




"OhJeeez" > wrote in message
...
> trying to help my friend with highly restricted diet. any suggestions
> appreciated. thanks.

Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I thought
its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of the
bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?

Katra wrote:

> Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> Coffee is acidic

****ing in the wind compared to the acid your stomach produces. The
acids in coffee are marked up in many partaker's minds because of the
increased reflux due to relaxation of the gastroesophogeal junction.


>and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
>
> Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> anti-oxidants.
>
And is constipating to some
blacksalt
who must therefore limit her tea intake

In article >,
"PlaneGuy" > wrote:

> Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I thought
> its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of the
> bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
>
>

It's an irritant and a stimulant...

Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.

Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
anti-oxidants.

K.

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"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "PlaneGuy" > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
thought
> > its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of
the
> > bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
> >
> >
>
> It's an irritant and a stimulant...
>
> Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
>
> Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> anti-oxidants.
>
> K.
>
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Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One cup
of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes. Even
Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.

I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously have
no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before
dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.

Kilikini

In article >,
kalanamak > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
>
> > Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> > Coffee is acidic
>
> ****ing in the wind compared to the acid your stomach produces. The
> acids in coffee are marked up in many partaker's minds because of the
> increased reflux due to relaxation of the gastroesophogeal junction.

Just going by what my Gastroenterologist told me...
If it is so harmless, why does it make me so ill to drink it?
It also irritates the colon. Big time. That's why coffee is such
a great laxative.

>
>
> >and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
> >
> > Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> > system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> > anti-oxidants.
> >
> And is constipating to some
> blacksalt
> who must therefore limit her tea intake

Eat more fiber or take Magnesium supplements. :-)
I dring tea every day and don't have that problem,
and DO have chronic GI problems if I don't watch
my diet. IBS. Lots of food sensitivities.

What it all boils down to really is what works for
each individual. Pay attention to what you eat and
drink, and how it makes you feel, and tailor it from
there.

K.

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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "PlaneGuy" > wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
> thought
> > > its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out of
> the
> > > bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It's an irritant and a stimulant...
> >
> > Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> > Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as well.
> >
> > Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> > system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> > anti-oxidants.
> >
> > K.
> >
> Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One cup
> of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes. Even
> Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.
>
> I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously have
> no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before
> dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.
>
> Kilikini
>

Interesting. :-)
Red or white wine, or does it matter???

K.

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"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
> > "Katra" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >,
> > > "PlaneGuy" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
> > thought
> > > > its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out
of
> > the
> > > > bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's an irritant and a stimulant...
> > >
> > > Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> > > Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as
well.
> > >
> > > Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> > > system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> > > anti-oxidants.
> > >
> > > K.
> > >
> > Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One
cup
> > of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes.
Even
> > Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.
> >
> > I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously
have
> > no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before
> > dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.
> >
> > Kilikini
> >
>
> Interesting. :-)
> Red or white wine, or does it matter???
>
> K.
>
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Red seems to be the ticket. If you have stomach problems, give it a try and
see if it helps you out as well. I figured it worked because it helps relax
you, but I don't know it it's also because it's rumored to help digestion.

Kili

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "kilikini" > wrote:
> >
> > > "Katra" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > In article >,
> > > > "PlaneGuy" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know what it is about caffeine that causes flare ups? I
> > > thought
> > > > > its major effect was a diuretic, which I thought took moisture out
> of
> > > the
> > > > > bowels. Wouldn't this assist against flare ups?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's an irritant and a stimulant...
> > > >
> > > > Decaffinated coffee is not good either.
> > > > Coffee is acidic and has other gastrointestinal irritants in it as
> well.
> > > >
> > > > Switch to tea. :-) For some reason, it tends to be far gentler on the
> > > > system, even with the caffiene content. It also contains natural
> > > > anti-oxidants.
> > > >
> > > > K.
> > > >
> > > Got that right. I've been battling colitis for at least 20 years. One
> cup
> > > of coffee - decaf or regular - sets me off within about 15 minutes.
> Even
> > > Coca-Cola does it to me. Tea is much easier to digest.
> > >
> > > I have noticed that if I'm going to go to a dinner party and obviously
> have
> > > no control over the menu, if I have a couple of glasses of wine before
> > > dinner, there is less chance of a flair up.
> > >
> > > Kilikini
> > >
> >
> > Interesting. :-)
> > Red or white wine, or does it matter???
> >
> > K.
> >
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> >
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>
> Red seems to be the ticket. If you have stomach problems, give it a try and
> see if it helps you out as well. I figured it worked because it helps relax
> you, but I don't know it it's also because it's rumored to help digestion.
>
> Kili
>
>

There has been a lot written about the medicinal benefits of red wine.
;-) Thanks for replying! I might try that also before going out to eat.

K.

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