>
>It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65 for a
>daytime high for awhiles. I see it's hot in the West, but we have had a
>very cool summer generally here in the Midwest. No monstrous killer
>heatwaves for a change, just a few humid days in the high 80's....
>
>Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>
>--
>Best
>Greg

Tell you what Greg, come to South Texas, I have been here in this fresh hell
since January and it has been summer all the time!!

Rosie

>
>It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65 for a
>daytime high for awhiles. I see it's hot in the West, but we have had a
>very cool summer generally here in the Midwest. No monstrous killer
>heatwaves for a change, just a few humid days in the high 80's....
>
>Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>
>--
>Best
>Greg

Tell you what Greg, come to South Texas, I have been here in this fresh hell
since January and it has been summer all the time!!

Rosie

Wayne wrote:
>
> kalanamak > wrote in :

> > ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
> > tomatoes
>
> Anybody you know?
>
Perhaps the dumb Mother Deer who grazed with a really tiny fawn on a
lawn full of dog turds, resulting in my dog's first ever kill, which
resulted in *the worst* dog belches in history, and then explosive
diarrhea with carrion and bone bits in it. (On the carpet of course.)
blacksalt

Wayne wrote:
>
> kalanamak > wrote in :

> > ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
> > tomatoes
>
> Anybody you know?
>
Perhaps the dumb Mother Deer who grazed with a really tiny fawn on a
lawn full of dog turds, resulting in my dog's first ever kill, which
resulted in *the worst* dog belches in history, and then explosive
diarrhea with carrion and bone bits in it. (On the carpet of course.)
blacksalt

kalanamak > wrote in :

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>>
> The is the very first year, in 16 of 'em out here, that I wished I had
> air conditioning in the truck. Pugetopolis is baking.
> blacksalt

> ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
> tomatoes

Anybody you know?

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

kalanamak > wrote in :

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
>> Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>>
> The is the very first year, in 16 of 'em out here, that I wished I had
> air conditioning in the truck. Pugetopolis is baking.
> blacksalt

> ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
> tomatoes

Anybody you know?

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

onono (Nancree) wrote in
:

>>I'M JEALOUS!! Is there ever BAD weather in Hawaii??
>>
>>Van
> --------------------------
> kauai island is the wettest spot on earth==it receives 440 inches of
> rain a year
>
>

I would really love that for about 2 weeks!

--
Wayne - bone dry in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

onono (Nancree) wrote in
:

>>I'M JEALOUS!! Is there ever BAD weather in Hawaii??
>>
>>Van
> --------------------------
> kauai island is the wettest spot on earth==it receives 440 inches of
> rain a year
>
>

I would really love that for about 2 weeks!

--
Wayne - bone dry in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

"jmcquown" > wrote in
:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> ...so I'm going out to buy a crockpot and start investigating some
>> hearty cooler - weather recipes....
>>
>> It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65
>> for a daytime high for awhiles.
>
> Greg, if you insist, you can have our 90-something weather from down
> here in the mid-south It's not even 10:30 AM and already close to
> 80F.
>
> Jill

Ours might be more fulfilling ;-) It was 96 at 8:30am.


--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:13:37 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like
this:

>Dunno. Some years ago (1991?) we had a bigass snow dump on Halloween
>and the next day. That's early. I think the last date for snowfall is
>in mid-late May. It's happened. Doesn't stay, but it's fallen.
>It's 48 degrees right now -- I set the oven to self-clean to warm up the
>kitchen. It's 64 degrees in my house right now. Coffee tastes good.
>:-)

In Colorado in mid-October, 1997, we had a *blizzard* that dumped 2 -
4 feet in just a few hours. That's when I found out my Audi A6 Quattro
couldn't handle snow without snow tires - and a car that low to the
ground also high centers. My next car was a Range Rover 4.6 HSE.
Grrrrr.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/den/awebshtml/snowfall.shtml

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:45:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> arranged random neurons,
so they looked like this:

>Heh. That's because October is often the most summery of months in SF. I
>got a kick out of someone I was recently talking to who complained "G-d, we
>went to SF for a vacation in July and it was so COLD!"...I replied, "Ya
>gotta take yer jackets to SF in the summer, just because it's in California
>doesn't mean it's warm and sunny...".
>
>I do like the microclimate aspect of your area....

Wasn't it Mark Twain who is misquoted as saying, "The coldest winter I
ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:45:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> arranged random neurons,
so they looked like this:

>Heh. That's because October is often the most summery of months in SF. I
>got a kick out of someone I was recently talking to who complained "G-d, we
>went to SF for a vacation in July and it was so COLD!"...I replied, "Ya
>gotta take yer jackets to SF in the summer, just because it's in California
>doesn't mean it's warm and sunny...".
>
>I do like the microclimate aspect of your area....

Wasn't it Mark Twain who is misquoted as saying, "The coldest winter I
ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Dog3 wrote:
>
>
> 2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs with big
> clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread. Brother #3
> (in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer a couple of weeks
> ago and is out shopping for one as we speak. Apparently the winters there
> can be brutal. I only visit during prime ski season. Even then you can
> get stranded.
>
> Michael
> --


I guess I must be a better driver than I think. My Honda Accord
does just fine in most Denver winter weather. (Only masochists
and macho yahoos go out during the worst of the blizzards, IMHO.)

;-)
gloria p

Dog3 wrote:
>
>
> 2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs with big
> clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread. Brother #3
> (in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer a couple of weeks
> ago and is out shopping for one as we speak. Apparently the winters there
> can be brutal. I only visit during prime ski season. Even then you can
> get stranded.
>
> Michael
> --


I guess I must be a better driver than I think. My Honda Accord
does just fine in most Denver winter weather. (Only masochists
and macho yahoos go out during the worst of the blizzards, IMHO.)

;-)
gloria p

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:45:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
>
> > Welcome to San Francisco! West of Twin Peaks, we are
> > overcast with fog too. I remember one August with NO SUN.
> >
>
> Heh. That's because October is often the most summery of months in SF. I
> got a kick out of someone I was recently talking to who complained "G-d, we
> went to SF for a vacation in July and it was so COLD!"...I replied, "Ya
> gotta take yer jackets to SF in the summer, just because it's in California
> doesn't mean it's warm and sunny...".
>
> I do like the microclimate aspect of your area....



Yep - we have summer for a month or so of very mild
temperatures (70-72ish) - with a burst of heat, in the
Spring and a repeat in the Fall with a bit more emphasis on
heat. Verrrrry interesting weather.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:45:09 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
>
> > Welcome to San Francisco! West of Twin Peaks, we are
> > overcast with fog too. I remember one August with NO SUN.
> >
>
> Heh. That's because October is often the most summery of months in SF. I
> got a kick out of someone I was recently talking to who complained "G-d, we
> went to SF for a vacation in July and it was so COLD!"...I replied, "Ya
> gotta take yer jackets to SF in the summer, just because it's in California
> doesn't mean it's warm and sunny...".
>
> I do like the microclimate aspect of your area....



Yep - we have summer for a month or so of very mild
temperatures (70-72ish) - with a burst of heat, in the
Spring and a repeat in the Fall with a bit more emphasis on
heat. Verrrrry interesting weather.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:07:40 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> We departed for Bangkok in August, 1969 and flew out of San Francisco. We
> were there for a day or so before the flight and I remember we ate at a
> Chinese restaurant (don't ask me which one, I was 9 years old). Every time
> the door to the place opened a bitterly cold wind blew in. I was used to
> the relatively hot temps of Virginia and was freezing!
>
> Jill

You always know who the tourists are because they are
wearing shorts and a sweatshirt. LOL. In the past few
years I've noticed they are getting "smarter" though. Don't
know if it's word of mouth or advertising. If it isn't due
to advertising, our City's publicity agent (if we have one)
is missing a good one.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:07:40 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> We departed for Bangkok in August, 1969 and flew out of San Francisco. We
> were there for a day or so before the flight and I remember we ate at a
> Chinese restaurant (don't ask me which one, I was 9 years old). Every time
> the door to the place opened a bitterly cold wind blew in. I was used to
> the relatively hot temps of Virginia and was freezing!
>
> Jill

You always know who the tourists are because they are
wearing shorts and a sweatshirt. LOL. In the past few
years I've noticed they are getting "smarter" though. Don't
know if it's word of mouth or advertising. If it isn't due
to advertising, our City's publicity agent (if we have one)
is missing a good one.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> In article >,
> kalanamak > wrote:
>
>
>>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>>>
>>
>>The is the very first year, in 16 of 'em out here, that I wished I had
>>air conditioning in the truck. Pugetopolis is baking.
>>blacksalt
>>ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
>>tomatoes
>
>
> The SO (aka Florida Boy) has been kvetching about the lack of AC in our
> house. I survived the summer of 1980 in Dallas (64 consecutive days
> when the high temp was over 100), so this alleged heat wave in Seattle
> is nothing.
>
> Cindy, waiting for tomatoes to turn up on my plants
>
I've got the tomatoes on my plants, but when do they turn yellow!!!

Speaking of which, Sunday we had our first summer special veggie meal.
Yakima beefsteak tomato, walla walla sweet onion, buf. mozz. basil,
garlic and olive oil.

And some homemade pain poilane to sop up the flavored oil in the serving
plate.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

Cindy Fuller wrote:

> In article >,
> kalanamak > wrote:
>
>
>>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
>>>
>>
>>The is the very first year, in 16 of 'em out here, that I wished I had
>>air conditioning in the truck. Pugetopolis is baking.
>>blacksalt
>>ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out of my
>>tomatoes
>
>
> The SO (aka Florida Boy) has been kvetching about the lack of AC in our
> house. I survived the summer of 1980 in Dallas (64 consecutive days
> when the high temp was over 100), so this alleged heat wave in Seattle
> is nothing.
>
> Cindy, waiting for tomatoes to turn up on my plants
>
I've got the tomatoes on my plants, but when do they turn yellow!!!

Speaking of which, Sunday we had our first summer special veggie meal.
Yakima beefsteak tomato, walla walla sweet onion, buf. mozz. basil,
garlic and olive oil.

And some homemade pain poilane to sop up the flavored oil in the serving
plate.
--
Alan

"If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and
avoid the people, you might better stay home."
--James Michener

kalanamak > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> kalanamak > wrote in
>> :
>
>> > ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out
>> > of my tomatoes
>>
>> Anybody you know?
>>
> Perhaps the dumb Mother Deer who grazed with a really tiny fawn on a
> lawn full of dog turds, resulting in my dog's first ever kill, which
> resulted in *the worst* dog belches in history, and then explosive
> diarrhea with carrion and bone bits in it. (On the carpet of course.)
> blacksalt
>

Ugh! I don't blame you!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

kalanamak > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> kalanamak > wrote in
>> :
>
>> > ready to bear arms against the varmit that is taking big bites out
>> > of my tomatoes
>>
>> Anybody you know?
>>
> Perhaps the dumb Mother Deer who grazed with a really tiny fawn on a
> lawn full of dog turds, resulting in my dog's first ever kill, which
> resulted in *the worst* dog belches in history, and then explosive
> diarrhea with carrion and bone bits in it. (On the carpet of course.)
> blacksalt
>

Ugh! I don't blame you!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:38:28 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> Wasn't it Mark Twain who is misquoted as saying, "The coldest winter I
> ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

I can only say that when I moved to SF from Michigan in
JANUARY (of 19xx)... the coat I wore for a Michigan winter
was no match for the cold, wet winds of a real winter in SF.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:38:28 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> Wasn't it Mark Twain who is misquoted as saying, "The coldest winter I
> ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

I can only say that when I moved to SF from Michigan in
JANUARY (of 19xx)... the coat I wore for a Michigan winter
was no match for the cold, wet winds of a real winter in SF.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:38:28 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

> Wasn't it Mark Twain who is misquoted as saying, "The coldest winter I
> ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

I can only say that when I moved to SF from Michigan in
JANUARY (of 19xx)... the coat I wore for a Michigan winter
was no match for the cold, wet winds of a real winter in SF.

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Melba's Jammin' > writes:
> > > Dunno. Some years ago (1991?) we had a bigass snow dump on Halloween
> > > and the next day.
> >
> > Correct, it was 1991. My first visit to the Twin Cities, in fact, and
> > I spend two extra days there because of it.
>
> I'm kinda surprised you stayed. We like our crappy weather -- it keeps
> the riffraff out. "-)

Heck, while it was a bad storm by MN standards, it wasn't that bad.
Heck, two winters ago my house in Grantham, NH got 8 feet of snow in
one week (two back-to-back storms), and that's wasn't considered that
big a deal.

That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better question...

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Melba's Jammin' > writes:
> > > Dunno. Some years ago (1991?) we had a bigass snow dump on Halloween
> > > and the next day.
> >
> > Correct, it was 1991. My first visit to the Twin Cities, in fact, and
> > I spend two extra days there because of it.
>
> I'm kinda surprised you stayed. We like our crappy weather -- it keeps
> the riffraff out. "-)

Heck, while it was a bad storm by MN standards, it wasn't that bad.
Heck, two winters ago my house in Grantham, NH got 8 feet of snow in
one week (two back-to-back storms), and that's wasn't considered that
big a deal.

That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better question...

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

> > It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65 for a
> > daytime high for awhiles. I see it's hot in the West, but we have had a
> > very cool summer generally here in the Midwest. No monstrous killer
> > heatwaves for a change, just a few humid days in the high 80's....
> >
> > Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> I wish it was like that here. As it is, I'm hoping it will stay below 85*
> this weekend when we have everyone over!
>
> kimberly
> >
It is cooler today, Kimberly, but this summer is a pain in the behind.
As it is I hate summer from living in the Phoenix area, but SandyEggo
seems just as bad sometimes, particularly if you're not coastal (and
I'm not). At this rate I'm gonna end up in Alaska!

Suzan

> > It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65 for a
> > daytime high for awhiles. I see it's hot in the West, but we have had a
> > very cool summer generally here in the Midwest. No monstrous killer
> > heatwaves for a change, just a few humid days in the high 80's....
> >
> > Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> I wish it was like that here. As it is, I'm hoping it will stay below 85*
> this weekend when we have everyone over!
>
> kimberly
> >
It is cooler today, Kimberly, but this summer is a pain in the behind.
As it is I hate summer from living in the Phoenix area, but SandyEggo
seems just as bad sometimes, particularly if you're not coastal (and
I'm not). At this rate I'm gonna end up in Alaska!

Suzan

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> ...so I'm going out to buy a crockpot and start investigating some hearty
> cooler - weather recipes....
>
> It is positively *autumnal* here in Chicago, prolly won't crack 65 for a
> daytime high for awhiles. I see it's hot in the West, but we have had a
> very cool summer generally here in the Midwest. No monstrous killer
> heatwaves for a change, just a few humid days in the high 80's....
>
> Summer was fine while it lasted ;-]

It was 41 this morning when I got up.
--
He asked me if my beer glass was half full or half empty, seemed to
complicated so I just emptied it.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:23:27 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

>2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs with big
>clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread. Brother #3
>(in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer a couple of weeks
>ago and is out shopping for one as we speak. Apparently the winters there
>can be brutal. I only visit during prime ski season. Even then you can
>get stranded.
>
I came to loathe my Range Rover, even in Colorado. Damned thing
weighed 3 tons and went through brake pads every 6 months and tires
every 20,000 miles. It was a maintenance nightmare. And a Hummer has
to be even worse. It's heavier. And winters in most of Colorado are
fairly benign unless you're at altitude. Even then, there are only a
few days out of the year that would find you stuck without one of
these land monsters - and even with 'em. You can't guide even a Hummer
or Range Rover on ice. Think Rabbit Ear Pass on the way to Steamboat
Springs...

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Never argue with an idiot.....they bring you down to their level and
then beat you with experience."

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:23:27 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

>2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs with big
>clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread. Brother #3
>(in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer a couple of weeks
>ago and is out shopping for one as we speak. Apparently the winters there
>can be brutal. I only visit during prime ski season. Even then you can
>get stranded.
>
I came to loathe my Range Rover, even in Colorado. Damned thing
weighed 3 tons and went through brake pads every 6 months and tires
every 20,000 miles. It was a maintenance nightmare. And a Hummer has
to be even worse. It's heavier. And winters in most of Colorado are
fairly benign unless you're at altitude. Even then, there are only a
few days out of the year that would find you stuck without one of
these land monsters - and even with 'em. You can't guide even a Hummer
or Range Rover on ice. Think Rabbit Ear Pass on the way to Steamboat
Springs...

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Never argue with an idiot.....they bring you down to their level and
then beat you with experience."

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Richard Kaszeta > wrote in
:

> Melba's Jammin' > writes:
>> > > Dunno. Some years ago (1991?) we had a bigass snow dump on
>> > > Halloween and the next day.
>> >
>> > Correct, it was 1991. My first visit to the Twin Cities, in fact,
>> > and I spend two extra days there because of it.
>>
>> I'm kinda surprised you stayed. We like our crappy weather -- it
>> keeps the riffraff out. "-)
>
> Heck, while it was a bad storm by MN standards, it wasn't that bad.
> Heck, two winters ago my house in Grantham, NH got 8 feet of snow in
> one week (two back-to-back storms), and that's wasn't considered that
> big a deal.
>
> That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
> why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better
> question...
>

Okay, why, Richard?

--
Wayne in Phoenix (who moved here from NE Ohio)

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Richard Kaszeta > wrote in
:

> Melba's Jammin' > writes:
>> > > Dunno. Some years ago (1991?) we had a bigass snow dump on
>> > > Halloween and the next day.
>> >
>> > Correct, it was 1991. My first visit to the Twin Cities, in fact,
>> > and I spend two extra days there because of it.
>>
>> I'm kinda surprised you stayed. We like our crappy weather -- it
>> keeps the riffraff out. "-)
>
> Heck, while it was a bad storm by MN standards, it wasn't that bad.
> Heck, two winters ago my house in Grantham, NH got 8 feet of snow in
> one week (two back-to-back storms), and that's wasn't considered that
> big a deal.
>
> That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
> why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better
> question...
>

Okay, why, Richard?

--
Wayne in Phoenix (who moved here from NE Ohio)

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:23:27 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:
>
>>2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs
>>with big clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread.
>> Brother #3 (in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer
>>a couple of weeks ago and is out shopping for one as we speak.
>>Apparently the winters there can be brutal. I only visit during prime
>>ski season. Even then you can get stranded.
>>
> I came to loathe my Range Rover, even in Colorado. Damned thing
> weighed 3 tons and went through brake pads every 6 months and tires
> every 20,000 miles. It was a maintenance nightmare. And a Hummer has
> to be even worse. It's heavier. And winters in most of Colorado are
> fairly benign unless you're at altitude. Even then, there are only a
> few days out of the year that would find you stuck without one of
> these land monsters - and even with 'em. You can't guide even a Hummer
> or Range Rover on ice. Think Rabbit Ear Pass on the way to Steamboat
> Springs...
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

From what I hear, Hummer owners here in the Phoenix area have nothing but
problems with them. Even if they didn't, I wouldn't have one. It would
be like trying to maneuver an armored tank through residential streets.
It's too bad they've become such a "status" symbol.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:23:27 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:
>
>>2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs
>>with big clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread.
>> Brother #3 (in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer
>>a couple of weeks ago and is out shopping for one as we speak.
>>Apparently the winters there can be brutal. I only visit during prime
>>ski season. Even then you can get stranded.
>>
> I came to loathe my Range Rover, even in Colorado. Damned thing
> weighed 3 tons and went through brake pads every 6 months and tires
> every 20,000 miles. It was a maintenance nightmare. And a Hummer has
> to be even worse. It's heavier. And winters in most of Colorado are
> fairly benign unless you're at altitude. Even then, there are only a
> few days out of the year that would find you stuck without one of
> these land monsters - and even with 'em. You can't guide even a Hummer
> or Range Rover on ice. Think Rabbit Ear Pass on the way to Steamboat
> Springs...
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

From what I hear, Hummer owners here in the Phoenix area have nothing but
problems with them. Even if they didn't, I wouldn't have one. It would
be like trying to maneuver an armored tank through residential streets.
It's too bad they've become such a "status" symbol.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:23:27 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:
>
>>2 of my brothers live in Colorado. They drive these enormous SUVs
>>with big clunky tires. I guess they are snow tires. Real deep tread.
>> Brother #3 (in the pecking order. I am #1) drove brother #2's Hummer
>>a couple of weeks ago and is out shopping for one as we speak.
>>Apparently the winters there can be brutal. I only visit during prime
>>ski season. Even then you can get stranded.
>>
> I came to loathe my Range Rover, even in Colorado. Damned thing
> weighed 3 tons and went through brake pads every 6 months and tires
> every 20,000 miles. It was a maintenance nightmare. And a Hummer has
> to be even worse. It's heavier. And winters in most of Colorado are
> fairly benign unless you're at altitude. Even then, there are only a
> few days out of the year that would find you stuck without one of
> these land monsters - and even with 'em. You can't guide even a Hummer
> or Range Rover on ice. Think Rabbit Ear Pass on the way to Steamboat
> Springs...
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

From what I hear, Hummer owners here in the Phoenix area have nothing but
problems with them. Even if they didn't, I wouldn't have one. It would
be like trying to maneuver an armored tank through residential streets.
It's too bad they've become such a "status" symbol.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne > writes:
> > That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
> > why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better
> > question...
>
> Okay, why, Richard?

The short answer was "good college scholarship to MSU", but the real
reason was "getting tired of large metropolitan areas of houses all
looking the same." Seeing and living in different parts of the
country has been fun.

That said, getting re-acquianted with winter after a decade of Arizona
living was hard.

And I *still* miss decent southwestern cuisine. People here in New
England have no idea what "spice" is. And dry weather, my body has
never adapted to humidity.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Wayne > writes:
> > That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
> > why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better
> > question...
>
> Okay, why, Richard?

The short answer was "good college scholarship to MSU", but the real
reason was "getting tired of large metropolitan areas of houses all
looking the same." Seeing and living in different parts of the
country has been fun.

That said, getting re-acquianted with winter after a decade of Arizona
living was hard.

And I *still* miss decent southwestern cuisine. People here in New
England have no idea what "spice" is. And dry weather, my body has
never adapted to humidity.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Wayne > writes:
> > That, and I moved to MN from MI, so it wasn't a big change. Ask me
> > why I moved to MI from Arizona, though... that's a much better
> > question...
>
> Okay, why, Richard?

The short answer was "good college scholarship to MSU", but the real
reason was "getting tired of large metropolitan areas of houses all
looking the same." Seeing and living in different parts of the
country has been fun.

That said, getting re-acquianted with winter after a decade of Arizona
living was hard.

And I *still* miss decent southwestern cuisine. People here in New
England have no idea what "spice" is. And dry weather, my body has
never adapted to humidity.

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich