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I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"

I wish I could say it was great....
One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
salty....Salty....SALTY !!!

Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.

In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"

Who are their product tasters ?
Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
Do they know how many customers they lose ?

BTW;
I tried writing a nasty SALT eMail to Lipton.
Even Google couln't find "Mr. Lipton".

Kitchen Wisdom; " Let the diner salt to taste"
<rj>
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>" >
wrote:

>
>I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
>Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
>and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"
>
>I wish I could say it was great....
>One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
>salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
>Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
>I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
>most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
>and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.
>
>In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"
>
>Who are their product tasters ?
>Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
>Do they know how many customers they lose ?


I agree but I suspect the reason(s) might be:
1. most people don't mind the salt
2. It's a processing filler. Salt makes up the bulk of the powder
making mixing and distribution into packages easier.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>" >
wrote:

>
>I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
>Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
>and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"
>
>I wish I could say it was great....
>One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
>salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
>Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
>I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
>most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
>and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.
>
>In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"
>
>Who are their product tasters ?
>Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
>Do they know how many customers they lose ?


I agree but I suspect the reason(s) might be:
1. most people don't mind the salt
2. It's a processing filler. Salt makes up the bulk of the powder
making mixing and distribution into packages easier.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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>" RJ "
>
>Why do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?


Simple as 1, 2, 3...

1. They're intended for those who can't cook and/or have their taste in their
ass.

2. Minus the salt he kitchen incompetants would never pay the price for such a
small packet.

3. Only the kitchen morons would pay so high a price for an envelope
containing mostly salt... all one needs to do is *read* the list of ingredients
printed on the packet.


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>" RJ "
>
>Why do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?


Simple as 1, 2, 3...

1. They're intended for those who can't cook and/or have their taste in their
ass.

2. Minus the salt he kitchen incompetants would never pay the price for such a
small packet.

3. Only the kitchen morons would pay so high a price for an envelope
containing mostly salt... all one needs to do is *read* the list of ingredients
printed on the packet.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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>" RJ "
>
>Why do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?


Simple as 1, 2, 3...

1. They're intended for those who can't cook and/or have their taste in their
ass.

2. Minus the salt he kitchen incompetants would never pay the price for such a
small packet.

3. Only the kitchen morons would pay so high a price for an envelope
containing mostly salt... all one needs to do is *read* the list of ingredients
printed on the packet.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
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Sheldon
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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"
>
> I wish I could say it was great....
> One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
> salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
> Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
> I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
> most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
> and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.
>
> In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"
>
> Who are their product tasters ?
> Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
> Do they know how many customers they lose ?
>
> BTW;
> I tried writing a nasty SALT eMail to Lipton.
> Even Google couln't find "Mr. Lipton".
>
> Kitchen Wisdom; " Let the diner salt to taste"
> <rj>


Try this one next time:


* Exported from MasterCook *

Mix: Onion Soup Mix

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Soups & Stews

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
3/4 cup instant onion flakes
1/3 cup beef broth granules
4 teaspoons onion powder
1/4 teaspoon celery seed
1/4 teaspoon sugar

Mix all ingredients.

5 tblsp = 1.25ozs or one package of soup.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>"
> wrote:

> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"


I just took a look at some recipes for it... most of them
aren't very appealing to me. Why not try making regular
primivara next time and add some chicken strips to it?

This one looked tasty -
Pasta Primavera with Ricotta and Herbs
http://www.favoritebrandrecipes.com/...hLists/250.htm

Of course, you don't have to stick with fettuccine.

Good Luck!

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>"
> wrote:

> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"


I just took a look at some recipes for it... most of them
aren't very appealing to me. Why not try making regular
primivara next time and add some chicken strips to it?

This one looked tasty -
Pasta Primavera with Ricotta and Herbs
http://www.favoritebrandrecipes.com/...hLists/250.htm

Of course, you don't have to stick with fettuccine.

Good Luck!

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:47:39 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>"
> wrote:
>
>> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
>> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
>> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"

>
>I just took a look at some recipes for it... most of them
>aren't very appealing to me. Why not try making regular
>primivara next time and add some chicken strips to it?
>
>This one looked tasty -
>Pasta Primavera with Ricotta and Herbs
>http://www.favoritebrandrecipes.com/...hLists/250.htm
>
>Of course, you don't have to stick with fettuccine.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>sf
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments


Thanks so much for the URL.

Lots of reading here. I'm sure I'll find some keepers.


<rj>


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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:47:39 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:38:12 -0700, "<RJ>"
> wrote:
>
>> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
>> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
>> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"

>
>I just took a look at some recipes for it... most of them
>aren't very appealing to me. Why not try making regular
>primivara next time and add some chicken strips to it?
>
>This one looked tasty -
>Pasta Primavera with Ricotta and Herbs
>http://www.favoritebrandrecipes.com/...hLists/250.htm
>
>Of course, you don't have to stick with fettuccine.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>sf
>Practice safe eating - always use condiments


Thanks so much for the URL.

Lots of reading here. I'm sure I'll find some keepers.


<rj>
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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
>
> I wish I could say it was great....
> One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
> salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
> Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?


snips here and there
>
> Who are their product tasters ?
> Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
> Do they know how many customers they lose ?


Salt is cheap. Many of us are addicted to salt and think it really enhances
flavors. It does in moderation, but most prepared foods are so heavily
salted that the real flavor is overpowered.

I recently bough a bag of Kettle Chips salt and black pepper flavored. They
were very good. Saw a bag of Herr's salt and pepper chips. My, they were
inedible. The Kettle brand had 170 mg of salt per serving. Herr's had 420
mg.

About 10 years ago I decided to reduce the amount of salt I used. After a
week or so of bland eating, my taste bud recovered and I better enjoy the
real flavor of the food I eat. I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
cob, but very little else.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
>
> I wish I could say it was great....
> One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
> salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
> Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?


snips here and there
>
> Who are their product tasters ?
> Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
> Do they know how many customers they lose ?


Salt is cheap. Many of us are addicted to salt and think it really enhances
flavors. It does in moderation, but most prepared foods are so heavily
salted that the real flavor is overpowered.

I recently bough a bag of Kettle Chips salt and black pepper flavored. They
were very good. Saw a bag of Herr's salt and pepper chips. My, they were
inedible. The Kettle brand had 170 mg of salt per serving. Herr's had 420
mg.

About 10 years ago I decided to reduce the amount of salt I used. After a
week or so of bland eating, my taste bud recovered and I better enjoy the
real flavor of the food I eat. I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
cob, but very little else.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:05:55 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
> wrote:

> I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
> cob, but very little else.


Oh, Ed-Ed-Ed.... stop salting that corn. Times have
changed! The new commercial corn varieties are absolutely
wonderful w/o salt!

sf
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:05:55 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
> wrote:

> I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
> cob, but very little else.


Oh, Ed-Ed-Ed.... stop salting that corn. Times have
changed! The new commercial corn varieties are absolutely
wonderful w/o salt!

sf
Practice safe eating - always use condiments


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"<RJ>" > wrote in message >. ..
> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"
>
> I wish I could say it was great....
> One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
> salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
> Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
> I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
> most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
> and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.
>
> In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"
>
> Who are their product tasters ?
> Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
> Do they know how many customers they lose ?
>
> BTW;
> I tried writing a nasty SALT eMail to Lipton.
> Even Google couln't find "Mr. Lipton".
>
> Kitchen Wisdom; " Let the diner salt to taste"
> <rj>



*Somebody* must like all that salt - not me. Ever notice how heavily
the TV chefs salt everything? Makes me sick just watching it.

-L.
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"<RJ>" > wrote in message >. ..
> I'd recently inquired about a "pantry wine"
> Yesterday, I bought the chardonnay,
> and made a "Chicken & Pasta Primavera"
>
> I wish I could say it was great....
> One of the ingredients was a packet of KNORR Veg. Soup Mix.
> salty....Salty....SALTY !!!
>
> Why in Gods name do they add so much salt to the prepared mixes ?
> I've stopped using Lipton Onion soup,
> most Campbell soups, Rice-a-Roni,
> and several of the Lipton side-dish offerings.
>
> In every case, I've said; "This is good, but way too salty"
>
> Who are their product tasters ?
> Do they have a distorted sense of "salty" ?
> Do they know how many customers they lose ?
>
> BTW;
> I tried writing a nasty SALT eMail to Lipton.
> Even Google couln't find "Mr. Lipton".
>
> Kitchen Wisdom; " Let the diner salt to taste"
> <rj>



*Somebody* must like all that salt - not me. Ever notice how heavily
the TV chefs salt everything? Makes me sick just watching it.

-L.
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sf > wrote in message >. ..
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:05:55 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
> > wrote:
>
> > I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
> > cob, but very little else.

>
> Oh, Ed-Ed-Ed.... stop salting that corn. Times have
> changed! The new commercial corn varieties are absolutely
> wonderful w/o salt!


That's because the new varieties of corn no longer taste
like corn - they taste like candy, with no discernable
corn flavor.


>
> sf
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments

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(Curly Sue) writes:

On 12 Aug 2004 09:29:22 -0700, (Tony Lew)
>wrote:
>
>>sf > wrote in message

> ...
>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:05:55 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > I still salt a baked potato and corn on the
>>> > cob, but very little else.
>>>
>>> Oh, Ed-Ed-Ed.... stop salting that corn. Times have
>>> changed! The new commercial corn varieties are absolutely
>>> wonderful w/o salt!


Kosher salt, just a sprinkle, added after the butter and fresh ground black
pepper.

>>That's because the new varieties of corn no longer taste
>>like corn - they taste like candy, with no discernable
>>corn flavor.


Which is why they taste best roasted in the husk.
>
>I never understood the quest for sweetness in corn, either by variety
>development or how it's cooked. It's a vegetable; I don't want it to
>be sweet.


Sue darlin' try this:

2-4 lbs butternut squash, halved and baked, lightly oiled on the cut side, cut
side down. About 20 minutes/lb max in a 325 oven, or slightly underdone.

Remove and cool. Peel and cut into cubes, about 1.5-2 inches, or half inch
slices (see below).

In a heavy iron skillet heat butter to foaming and then turn the heat to low.
Add minced garlic and squash, turning to coat until cooked through. In the
last five minutes add about 1 tbsp of either light brown sugar or maple syrup.
Remove from heat, plate and serve with salt and peppermill to the diner's
taste.

If you slice the squash you can bake or broil. If you bake add the butter cold
and the garlic and syrup at the same time. Shake the pan every couple of
minutes.

If you broil use melted butter with garlic mixed in and dab across the top.
Finish by drizzling with syrup, stirring briefly.

Marc
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> cbellers driveled:

>>(Curly Sue) said:
>>
>> I never understood the quest for sweetness in corn, either by variety
>> development or how it's cooked. It's a vegetable; I don't want it to
>> be sweet.

>
>Not to quibble, but corn is a grain, not a vegetable


Actually culinarilly "sweet corn" is considered a vegetable. Other varieties
are used as grain corn... of course corn is a plant (a grass) therefore all
corn is vegetable.... in fact all plant grain is vegetable.

Encyclopędia Britannica
"Commercial classifications, based mainly on kernel texture, include dent corn,
flint corn, flour corn, sweet corn, and popcorn. Dent corn is characterized by
a depression in the crown of the kernel caused by unequal drying of the hard
and soft starch making up the kernel. Flint corn, containing little soft
starch, has no depression. Flour corn, composed largely of soft starch, has
soft, mealy, easily ground kernels. Sweet corn has wrinkled, translucent seeds;
the plant sugar is not converted to starch as in other types. Popcorn, an
extreme type of flint corn characterized by small, hard kernels, is devoid of
soft starch, and heating causes the moisture in the cells to expand, making the
kernels explode. Improvements in corn have resulted from hybridization, based
on crossbreeding of superior inbred strains."

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