SNIP> >
> >i'm with you. grandmaw on my dads side just turned 100 this past july.
and
> >she's cooked with rendered fat back and bacon fat and made biscuits with
> >real lard her entire life. i suppose genetics play a part in that
however,
> >you can't deny that people are living to a century old subsisting on
things
> >that current popular opinion has deemed evil!
> >
>
>
> Yep, pretty cool.
> Think what they would have missed, obsessing over what people told them
was too
> dangerous to eat. ;-D
>
One thing is sure, Julia was not afraid of her food. =o) I think she really
had a very sensible attitude toward food, eating and cooking, not
necessarily in that order. I'd far rather have had dinner at her place than
eaten with some of the obsessive calorie counting cholesterol measuring
people I know. For one thing, I know the food would taste a lot better.
Moderation is a wise idea when eating, I agree. And it's not a good idea to
eat a 16 oz porterhouse steak every night for dinner. But the people whose
company I tend to enjoy most are those who can eat a nice restaurant meal
and not freak out about the caloric intake. I've always eaten buttered
toast, or gone without, as I think margarine is one of the most disgusting,
supposedly edible substances known to human kind.

Melissa

SNIP> >
> >i'm with you. grandmaw on my dads side just turned 100 this past july.
and
> >she's cooked with rendered fat back and bacon fat and made biscuits with
> >real lard her entire life. i suppose genetics play a part in that
however,
> >you can't deny that people are living to a century old subsisting on
things
> >that current popular opinion has deemed evil!
> >
>
>
> Yep, pretty cool.
> Think what they would have missed, obsessing over what people told them
was too
> dangerous to eat. ;-D
>
One thing is sure, Julia was not afraid of her food. =o) I think she really
had a very sensible attitude toward food, eating and cooking, not
necessarily in that order. I'd far rather have had dinner at her place than
eaten with some of the obsessive calorie counting cholesterol measuring
people I know. For one thing, I know the food would taste a lot better.
Moderation is a wise idea when eating, I agree. And it's not a good idea to
eat a 16 oz porterhouse steak every night for dinner. But the people whose
company I tend to enjoy most are those who can eat a nice restaurant meal
and not freak out about the caloric intake. I've always eaten buttered
toast, or gone without, as I think margarine is one of the most disgusting,
supposedly edible substances known to human kind.

Melissa

Jack B gave us a little TMI when he wrote:

> "Goomba" > wrote:
>
>> Camping? Yeah, right.
>> I much prefer freshly squeezed OJ served on a silver room service tray by a
>> smiling waiter in a 5-star hotel.
>
>As you wish.
>
>For me, early-morning sex in a tent. Nothing better.
>
>Then some hot Tang.

Repetez moi: I will *not* take this straight line. I will *not* take this
straight line . . .

Marc "mmmm, 'Tang . . ."
>
>>
>> "Jack B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > Nancy Young > wrote:
>> >
>> > > notbob wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On 2004-08-14, Nancy Young > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > They SUCK.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yo Nanc... don't sugar coat it. Tell us how you really feel.
>> > >
>> > > (laughing) I already said I picked up a couple of orders of
>> > > McDonald's fries, I was *shocked* at how bad they were. It's not
>> > > easy to shock me. GAWD awful. Crap. That was maybe a couple of
>> > > months ago.
>> >
>> > Had some of their "orange juice" a few days ago.
>> >
>> > What a surprise. My guess: four parts Tang-like drink product, one part
>> > reconstituted orange juice.
>> >
>> > Hard to guess what market they're aiming at. Certainly not one with any
>> > "real" food experience.
>> >
>> > (BTW, hot Tang is one of my favorite camping drinks, i.e. hot water and
>> > orange-drink "crystals," so nice on a cold dewy morning.)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jack
>

Jack B gave us a little TMI when he wrote:

> "Goomba" > wrote:
>
>> Camping? Yeah, right.
>> I much prefer freshly squeezed OJ served on a silver room service tray by a
>> smiling waiter in a 5-star hotel.
>
>As you wish.
>
>For me, early-morning sex in a tent. Nothing better.
>
>Then some hot Tang.

Repetez moi: I will *not* take this straight line. I will *not* take this
straight line . . .

Marc "mmmm, 'Tang . . ."
>
>>
>> "Jack B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > Nancy Young > wrote:
>> >
>> > > notbob wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On 2004-08-14, Nancy Young > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > They SUCK.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yo Nanc... don't sugar coat it. Tell us how you really feel.
>> > >
>> > > (laughing) I already said I picked up a couple of orders of
>> > > McDonald's fries, I was *shocked* at how bad they were. It's not
>> > > easy to shock me. GAWD awful. Crap. That was maybe a couple of
>> > > months ago.
>> >
>> > Had some of their "orange juice" a few days ago.
>> >
>> > What a surprise. My guess: four parts Tang-like drink product, one part
>> > reconstituted orange juice.
>> >
>> > Hard to guess what market they're aiming at. Certainly not one with any
>> > "real" food experience.
>> >
>> > (BTW, hot Tang is one of my favorite camping drinks, i.e. hot water and
>> > orange-drink "crystals," so nice on a cold dewy morning.)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jack
>

Melissa Houle wrote:

> One thing is sure, Julia was not afraid of her food. =o) I think she really
> had a very sensible attitude toward food, eating and cooking, not
> necessarily in that order. I'd far rather have had dinner at her place than
> eaten with some of the obsessive calorie counting cholesterol measuring
> people I know. For one thing, I know the food would taste a lot better.
> Moderation is a wise idea when eating, I agree. And it's not a good idea to
> eat a 16 oz porterhouse steak every night for dinner. But the people whose
> company I tend to enjoy most are those who can eat a nice restaurant meal
> and not freak out about the caloric intake. I've always eaten buttered
> toast, or gone without, as I think margarine is one of the most disgusting,
> supposedly edible substances known to human kind.


I agree, and this is where I don't think people give Julia Child enough
credit. On one end of the absurdity scale are the low-fat zealots. I'm
glad Child made her famous comments about substituting cream if you're
trying to cut back on butter. The other end of the absurdity scale are
the people who think that more meat, more butter, more fat, more grease
and more sugar automatically make a meal better. That's not good
cooking either. Child had comments for those people too, like the one
about wanting a fresh tomato sandwich for her last meal. She really
understood moderation.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> I agree, and this is where I don't think people give Julia Child enough
> credit. On one end of the absurdity scale are the low-fat zealots. I'm
> glad Child made her famous comments about substituting cream if you're
> trying to cut back on butter. The other end of the absurdity scale are
> the people who think that more meat, more butter, more fat, more grease
> and more sugar automatically make a meal better. That's not good
> cooking either. Child had comments for those people too, like the one
> about wanting a fresh tomato sandwich for her last meal. She really
> understood moderation.


Fresh tomato sandwiches, made with perfect summer tomatoes, I might
agree with her there.




Brian Rodenborn

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> I agree, and this is where I don't think people give Julia Child enough
> credit. On one end of the absurdity scale are the low-fat zealots. I'm
> glad Child made her famous comments about substituting cream if you're
> trying to cut back on butter. The other end of the absurdity scale are
> the people who think that more meat, more butter, more fat, more grease
> and more sugar automatically make a meal better. That's not good
> cooking either. Child had comments for those people too, like the one
> about wanting a fresh tomato sandwich for her last meal. She really
> understood moderation.


Fresh tomato sandwiches, made with perfect summer tomatoes, I might
agree with her there.




Brian Rodenborn

Default User wrote:

> Fresh tomato sandwiches, made with perfect summer tomatoes, I might
> agree with her there.


I've just picked a collander full from this years garden. I have more
eggplant and 3 types of tomatoes-- something giant and red, some red
cherries and some yellow ones shaped like pears. Each year I plant
several varieties hoping they won't all ripen at the same time. Each
year they all ripen at the same time. In the next two days I should
have garden fresh green beans. They're as thin as toothpicks now.


--Lia

Default User wrote:

> Fresh tomato sandwiches, made with perfect summer tomatoes, I might
> agree with her there.


I've just picked a collander full from this years garden. I have more
eggplant and 3 types of tomatoes-- something giant and red, some red
cherries and some yellow ones shaped like pears. Each year I plant
several varieties hoping they won't all ripen at the same time. Each
year they all ripen at the same time. In the next two days I should
have garden fresh green beans. They're as thin as toothpicks now.


--Lia

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> cherries and some yellow ones shaped like pears. Each year I plant
> several varieties hoping they won't all ripen at the same time. Each
> year they all ripen at the same time.

Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
>> cherries and some yellow ones shaped like pears. Each year I plant
>> several varieties hoping they won't all ripen at the same time. Each
>> year they all ripen at the same time.
>
> Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.
>
> nancy
>

That's very interesting. As long as our family has grown tomatoes, I've
never known about that.

Thanks!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in

> > Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> > The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.

> That's very interesting. As long as our family has grown tomatoes, I've
> never known about that.
>
> Thanks!

(laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.

nancy

Wayne wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in

> > Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> > The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.

> That's very interesting. As long as our family has grown tomatoes, I've
> never known about that.
>
> Thanks!

(laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> Nancy Young > wrote in
>
>> > Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
>> > The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.
>
>> That's very interesting. As long as our family has grown tomatoes,
>> I've never known about that.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.
>
> nancy
>

Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the difference
existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened the same number
of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in tomato plants a
few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I said, my stupid.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> Nancy Young > wrote in
>
>> > Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
>> > The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.
>
>> That's very interesting. As long as our family has grown tomatoes,
>> I've never known about that.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.
>
> nancy
>

Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the difference
existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened the same number
of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in tomato plants a
few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I said, my stupid.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Nancy Young wrote:

> Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.


I haven't the first idea. Each year we go to the local green houses and
buy 6" seedlings that come in a little black plastic pot with a tag
identifying the variety. Each year I plant about 8-12 tomatoes because
I don't care for them and far prefer peppers, green beans and squash.
We argue a little about what to plant since we have limited space in the
vegetable garden, more and more limited as the raspberries take over
more and more invasively. (We're not complaining about that very loud.)
I dig up the ground in the spring, improve the soil with a few bags
from the garden center, put the seedlings in along with their tag and a
cage, then weed, water and wait. That's the extent of my gardening
knowledge.


--Lia

Nancy Young wrote:

> Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.


I haven't the first idea. Each year we go to the local green houses and
buy 6" seedlings that come in a little black plastic pot with a tag
identifying the variety. Each year I plant about 8-12 tomatoes because
I don't care for them and far prefer peppers, green beans and squash.
We argue a little about what to plant since we have limited space in the
vegetable garden, more and more limited as the raspberries take over
more and more invasively. (We're not complaining about that very loud.)
I dig up the ground in the spring, improve the soil with a few bags
from the garden center, put the seedlings in along with their tag and a
cage, then weed, water and wait. That's the extent of my gardening
knowledge.


--Lia

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
> Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.

When I used to grow lots of tomatoes I would check out the tags in the
pots to see when they ripened and then buy several varieties with
different ripening dates. That gave me a longer fresh tomato season.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
> Do you look for indeterminate varieties vs determinate varieties?
> The determinate are bred to all ripen at the same time.

When I used to grow lots of tomatoes I would check out the tags in the
pots to see when they ripened and then buy several varieties with
different ripening dates. That gave me a longer fresh tomato season.

Wayne wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in

> > (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.

> Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the difference
> existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened the same number
> of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in tomato plants a
> few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I said, my stupid.

Did I say something wrong? I didn't mean to. I just wanted to let
you know, if you care, look at the label and it should say determinate
or indeterminate. I don't think you're stupid for not knowing.

nancy (in trouble again)

Wayne wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in

> > (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.

> Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the difference
> existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened the same number
> of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in tomato plants a
> few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I said, my stupid.

Did I say something wrong? I didn't mean to. I just wanted to let
you know, if you care, look at the label and it should say determinate
or indeterminate. I don't think you're stupid for not knowing.

nancy (in trouble again)

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> Nancy Young > wrote in
>
>> > (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.
>
>> Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the
>> difference existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened
>> the same number of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in
>> tomato plants a few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I
>> said, my stupid.
>
> Did I say something wrong? I didn't mean to. I just wanted to let
> you know, if you care, look at the label and it should say determinate
> or indeterminate. I don't think you're stupid for not knowing.
>
> nancy (in trouble again)
>

No...no...no... You enlightened me! Must have been how I worded my
response...sorry. I never knew from determinate/indeterminate. Now I
do! You'd think after all the years that our family raised tomatoes
that we'd have learned something about that. Like I said...my stupid.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Wayne wrote:
>>
>> Nancy Young > wrote in
>
>> > (laugh!) You're quite welcome. It will be noted on the label.
>
>> Nancy, I guess what I really meant was that I didn't know the
>> difference existed. My stupid assumption that all tomatoes ripened
>> the same number of days after planting. I remember my dad setting in
>> tomato plants a few weeks apart to extend the tomato season. Like I
>> said, my stupid.
>
> Did I say something wrong? I didn't mean to. I just wanted to let
> you know, if you care, look at the label and it should say determinate
> or indeterminate. I don't think you're stupid for not knowing.
>
> nancy (in trouble again)
>

No...no...no... You enlightened me! Must have been how I worded my
response...sorry. I never knew from determinate/indeterminate. Now I
do! You'd think after all the years that our family raised tomatoes
that we'd have learned something about that. Like I said...my stupid.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in
4:

> Wayne > got out the keyboard and wrote
> :
>
>>
>> No...no...no... You enlightened me! Must have been how I worded my
>> response...sorry. I never knew from determinate/indeterminate. Now
>> I do! You'd think after all the years that our family raised
>> tomatoes that we'd have learned something about that. Like I
>> said...my stupid.
>
> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I
> lived in a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of
> sun. The plants grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be
> found. A botanist friend laughed at me during one of my many cocktail
> parties. Apparently insects/bees do not fly that high off the ground.
> No polination. Did I feel stupid or what.
>
> Michael

It wouldn't have occurred to me, either.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Dog3 wrote:

> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I lived in
> a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of sun. The plants
> grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be found. A botanist
> friend laughed at me during one of my many cocktail parties. Apparently
> insects/bees do not fly that high off the ground. No polination. Did I
> feel stupid or what.


You could have tried to hand-pollinate. Many years ago, we had a our
desks at work relocated along a bank of large windows. Many of the gang
got some sort of plant for their desk. Because I'm weird, I brought in a
potted jalapeno plant. Nobody could figure out what it was until I
managed to coax one solitary pepper to grow.



Brian Rodenborn

Dog3 wrote:

> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I lived in
> a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of sun. The plants
> grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be found. A botanist
> friend laughed at me during one of my many cocktail parties. Apparently
> insects/bees do not fly that high off the ground. No polination. Did I
> feel stupid or what.


You could have tried to hand-pollinate. Many years ago, we had a our
desks at work relocated along a bank of large windows. Many of the gang
got some sort of plant for their desk. Because I'm weird, I brought in a
potted jalapeno plant. Nobody could figure out what it was until I
managed to coax one solitary pepper to grow.



Brian Rodenborn

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Dog3 wrote:
>
>> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I
>> lived in a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of
>> sun. The plants grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be
>> found. A botanist friend laughed at me during one of my many
>> cocktail parties. Apparently insects/bees do not fly that high off
>> the ground. No polination. Did I feel stupid or what.
>
> Well, how high was it? There is this guy who makes honey on rooftops
> in NYC. Okay, maybe not the Empire state building, but a number of
> stories.
>
> nancy
>

I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.

--
Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food
and water.
--------
FIELDS, W. C.

Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote:

>Wayne > got out the keyboard and wrote
:
>
>>
>> No...no...no... You enlightened me! Must have been how I worded my
>> response...sorry. I never knew from determinate/indeterminate. Now I
>> do! You'd think after all the years that our family raised tomatoes
>> that we'd have learned something about that. Like I said...my stupid.
>
>It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I lived in
>a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of sun. The plants
>grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be found. A botanist
>friend laughed at me during one of my many cocktail parties. Apparently
>insects/bees do not fly that high off the ground. No polination. Did I
>feel stupid or what.
>
>Michael


Tomatoes a self-pollinating. Lack of blossoms on great foliage
usually means too much nitrogen fertilizer. And if you had no
blossoms, a whole hive of bees would not do any good.


--
Susan N.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.

Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote:

>Wayne > got out the keyboard and wrote
:
>
>>
>> No...no...no... You enlightened me! Must have been how I worded my
>> response...sorry. I never knew from determinate/indeterminate. Now I
>> do! You'd think after all the years that our family raised tomatoes
>> that we'd have learned something about that. Like I said...my stupid.
>
>It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I lived in
>a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of sun. The plants
>grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be found. A botanist
>friend laughed at me during one of my many cocktail parties. Apparently
>insects/bees do not fly that high off the ground. No polination. Did I
>feel stupid or what.
>
>Michael


Tomatoes a self-pollinating. Lack of blossoms on great foliage
usually means too much nitrogen fertilizer. And if you had no
blossoms, a whole hive of bees would not do any good.


--
Susan N.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.

The Cook wrote:

> Tomatoes a self-pollinating. Lack of blossoms on great foliage
> usually means too much nitrogen fertilizer. And if you had no
> blossoms, a whole hive of bees would not do any good.

I couldn't put my finger on what the deal was, you hit the nail on
the head about the bee/no flower thing. Thanks.

nancy

"Julia Altshuler" wrote:
> I haven't the first idea. Each year we go to the local green houses and
> buy 6" seedlings that come in a little black plastic pot with a tag
> identifying the variety. Each year I plant about 8-12 tomatoes because
> I don't care for them and far prefer peppers, green beans and squash.
> We argue a little about what to plant since we have limited space in the
> vegetable garden, more and more limited as the raspberries take over
> more and more invasively. (We're not complaining about that very loud.)

The tag that IDs the variety also states whether it's Determinate or
Indeterminate.

"Julia Altshuler" wrote:
> I haven't the first idea. Each year we go to the local green houses and
> buy 6" seedlings that come in a little black plastic pot with a tag
> identifying the variety. Each year I plant about 8-12 tomatoes because
> I don't care for them and far prefer peppers, green beans and squash.
> We argue a little about what to plant since we have limited space in the
> vegetable garden, more and more limited as the raspberries take over
> more and more invasively. (We're not complaining about that very loud.)

The tag that IDs the variety also states whether it's Determinate or
Indeterminate.

Pennyaline wrote:

> The tag that IDs the variety also states whether it's Determinate or
> Indeterminate.


When I'm weeding tomorrow, I'll have a look.
--Lia

Pennyaline wrote:

> The tag that IDs the variety also states whether it's Determinate or
> Indeterminate.


When I'm weeding tomorrow, I'll have a look.
--Lia

"blake murphy" wrote;
> somebody said:
> >I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
> >than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.
>
> they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

They could take the express if they wanted to.

"blake murphy" wrote;
> somebody said:
> >I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
> >than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.
>
> they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

They could take the express if they wanted to.

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:59:55 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>Nancy Young > wrote in
:
>
>> Dog3 wrote:
>>
>>> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I
>>> lived in a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of
>>> sun. The plants grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be
>>> found. A botanist friend laughed at me during one of my many
>>> cocktail parties. Apparently insects/bees do not fly that high off
>>> the ground. No polination. Did I feel stupid or what.
>>
>> Well, how high was it? There is this guy who makes honey on rooftops
>> in NYC. Okay, maybe not the Empire state building, but a number of
>> stories.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
>than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.

they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:59:55 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>Nancy Young > wrote in
:
>
>> Dog3 wrote:
>>
>>> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I
>>> lived in a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of
>>> sun. The plants grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be
>>> found. A botanist friend laughed at me during one of my many
>>> cocktail parties. Apparently insects/bees do not fly that high off
>>> the ground. No polination. Did I feel stupid or what.
>>
>> Well, how high was it? There is this guy who makes honey on rooftops
>> in NYC. Okay, maybe not the Empire state building, but a number of
>> stories.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
>than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.

they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:59:55 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

>Nancy Young > wrote in
:
>
>> Dog3 wrote:
>>
>>> It couldn't be any worse than the tomatoes I tried to grow when I
>>> lived in a high rise. I had a terrace on the top floor. Plenty of
>>> sun. The plants grew like crazy. Not one blossom or tomato was to be
>>> found. A botanist friend laughed at me during one of my many
>>> cocktail parties. Apparently insects/bees do not fly that high off
>>> the ground. No polination. Did I feel stupid or what.
>>
>> Well, how high was it? There is this guy who makes honey on rooftops
>> in NYC. Okay, maybe not the Empire state building, but a number of
>> stories.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>
>I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
>than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.

they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:59:55 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:

> >I once watched a Documentary on Cockroaches And even they won't go higher
> >than the higher 20 storeys in a highrise IIRC.
>
> they don't want to spend that much time in the elevator.

They can't reach the button. That relegates them to a walkup.

nancy