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> Captain Infinity writes:
> >I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but >don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference >between evaporated milk and condensed milk? Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are exactly the same. But *Sweetened* Condensed Milk is a whole nother story. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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![]() "Captain Infinity" > wrote in message ... > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? > > > ** > Captain Infinity I think biggest difference is that condensed milk has sugar added |
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![]() "Captain Infinity" > wrote in message ... > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? > > > ** > Captain Infinity I think biggest difference is that condensed milk has sugar added |
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On 2004-08-14, PENMART01 > wrote:
> Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are exactly the same. But *Sweetened* > Condensed Milk is a whole nother story. Technically, you are correct. But, the term "evaporated milk" is almost always associated with non-sweetened condensed milk and the term "condensed milk" is almost always associated with sweetened milk, there being hardly anyone labeling un-sweetened condensed milk as such. A fun little ditty from a website about Carnation evap milk: "A little lady from North Carolina had worked in and around family dairy farms since she was old enough to walk, with hours of hard work and little compensation, and when canned Carnation Milk became available in grocery stores (1940's or 50's?) she read an advertisement offering $5,000 for the best slogan/rhyme beginning with "Carnation Milk is best of all . . ." She said, 'I know all about milk and dairy farms . . . I can do this!' She sent in her entry and about a week later, a black limo drove up in front of her house. A man got out and said, "Carnation LOVED your entry so much, we are here to award you $1000, even though we will not be able to use it." Here is her entry: Carnation milk is best of all, No tits to pull, no shit to haul; No buckets to wash, no hay to pitch, Just poke a hole in the son-of-a-bitch!" nb |
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Captain Infinity wrote:
> > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? Hey Cappy, you fergit where google's at? What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is milk with a bunch of sugar added, cooked slowly until it loses about 60% of its water. It's very thick, about like pudding. Evaporated milk doesn't have any sugar added, it's just had the water taken out. It's much thinner than SCM, more like thick milk. SCM is used for making desserts, evap usually where you'd use regular milk or cream. Don't mix them up, that would **** you off. Brian Rodenborn |
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Captain Infinity wrote:
> > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? Hey Cappy, you fergit where google's at? What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is milk with a bunch of sugar added, cooked slowly until it loses about 60% of its water. It's very thick, about like pudding. Evaporated milk doesn't have any sugar added, it's just had the water taken out. It's much thinner than SCM, more like thick milk. SCM is used for making desserts, evap usually where you'd use regular milk or cream. Don't mix them up, that would **** you off. Brian Rodenborn |
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>notbob writes:
> >>PENMART01wrote: > >> Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are exactly the same. But *Sweetened* >> Condensed Milk is a whole nother story. > >Technically, you are correct. Thats all that counts. Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>notbob writes:
> >>PENMART01wrote: > >> Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are exactly the same. But *Sweetened* >> Condensed Milk is a whole nother story. > >Technically, you are correct. Thats all that counts. Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>notbob writes:
> >>PENMART01wrote: > >> Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are exactly the same. But *Sweetened* >> Condensed Milk is a whole nother story. > >Technically, you are correct. Thats all that counts. Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Default User
> > >What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is >milk with a bunch of sugar added. Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used depends on where in the world one is. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Default User
> > >What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is >milk with a bunch of sugar added. Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used depends on where in the world one is. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Default User
> > >What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is >milk with a bunch of sugar added. Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used depends on where in the world one is. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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On 2004-08-14, PENMART01 > wrote:
> Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways > incorrect. Wrong as usual. An adverbial element that modifies or qualifies the sentence. nb |
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> PENMART01 wrote:
> >> Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. > >Wrong as usual. An adverbial element that modifies or qualifies the >sentence. > >nb Now you're being stupid, and you know you're being stupid, proven by the fact that you're too embarrassed to include the fercocktah sentence in question. Btw, neither of your two above phrases are properly constructed sentences, both are sentence fragments. I take it English is not your primary language. Just guessing, but if you speak like you write (broken English) I'd say you're a typical dumb dago, Not Roberto. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> PENMART01 wrote:
> >> Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. > >Wrong as usual. An adverbial element that modifies or qualifies the >sentence. > >nb Now you're being stupid, and you know you're being stupid, proven by the fact that you're too embarrassed to include the fercocktah sentence in question. Btw, neither of your two above phrases are properly constructed sentences, both are sentence fragments. I take it English is not your primary language. Just guessing, but if you speak like you write (broken English) I'd say you're a typical dumb dago, Not Roberto. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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> PENMART01 wrote:
> >> Btw, your comma is technically and in all other ways incorrect. > >Wrong as usual. An adverbial element that modifies or qualifies the >sentence. > >nb Now you're being stupid, and you know you're being stupid, proven by the fact that you're too embarrassed to include the fercocktah sentence in question. Btw, neither of your two above phrases are properly constructed sentences, both are sentence fragments. I take it English is not your primary language. Just guessing, but if you speak like you write (broken English) I'd say you're a typical dumb dago, Not Roberto. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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On 2004-08-15, PENMART01 > wrote:
> Now you're being..... Go back to cut n' paste. Your attempts at original thought just make it worse. nb |
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On 2004-08-15, PENMART01 > wrote:
> Now you're being..... Go back to cut n' paste. Your attempts at original thought just make it worse. nb |
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>A fun little ditty from a website about Carnation evap milk:
> >"A little lady from North Carolina had worked in and around family dairy >farms since she was old enough to walk, with hours of hard work and little >compensation, and when canned Carnation Milk became available in grocery >stores (1940's or 50's?) she read an advertisement offering $5,000 for the >best slogan/rhyme beginning with "Carnation Milk is best of all . . ." She >said, 'I know all about milk and dairy farms . . . I can do this!' > >She sent in her entry and about a week later, a black limo drove up in front >of her house. A man got out and said, "Carnation LOVED your entry so much, >we are here to award you $1000, even though we will not be able to use it." > >Here is her entry: > >Carnation milk is best of all, >No tits to pull, no shit to haul; >No buckets to wash, no hay to pitch, >Just poke a hole in the son-of-a-bitch!" > >nb > > >...........Just love the "little ditty"! > > > Quando(Mike) |
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Here's another website with more of the ditty in a similar vein:
http://www.snopes.com/business/deals/carnation.asp notbob wrote: > A fun little ditty from a website about Carnation evap milk: > > "A little lady from North Carolina had worked in and around family dairy > farms since she was old enough to walk, with hours of hard work and little > compensation, and when canned Carnation Milk became available in grocery > stores (1940's or 50's?) she read an advertisement offering $5,000 for the > best slogan/rhyme beginning with "Carnation Milk is best of all . . ." She > said, 'I know all about milk and dairy farms . . . I can do this!' > > She sent in her entry and about a week later, a black limo drove up in front > of her house. A man got out and said, "Carnation LOVED your entry so much, > we are here to award you $1000, even though we will not be able to use it." > > Here is her entry: > > Carnation milk is best of all, > No tits to pull, no shit to haul; > No buckets to wash, no hay to pitch, > Just poke a hole in the son-of-a-bitch!" > > nb |
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Phred wrote:
> > In article >, > (PENMART01) wrote: > >>Default User > >> > >>What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is > >>milk with a bunch of sugar added. > > > >Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and > >Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used > >depends on where in the world one is. > > Well here in Oz, the two types are mostly different in sugar > content and "other" (water?). According to the compositions of the > Carnation formulations [best viewed in fixed font such as Courier]: Sheldum the idiot fails to recognize is that while technically possible to have condensed milk that is the same thing as evaporated, no US manufacturer produces such a thing. What you seen in the stores as condensed milk is sweetened condensed. Brian Rodenborn |
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Phred wrote:
> > In article >, > (PENMART01) wrote: > >>Default User > >> > >>What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is > >>milk with a bunch of sugar added. > > > >Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and > >Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used > >depends on where in the world one is. > > Well here in Oz, the two types are mostly different in sugar > content and "other" (water?). According to the compositions of the > Carnation formulations [best viewed in fixed font such as Courier]: Sheldum the idiot fails to recognize is that while technically possible to have condensed milk that is the same thing as evaporated, no US manufacturer produces such a thing. What you seen in the stores as condensed milk is sweetened condensed. Brian Rodenborn |
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Phred wrote:
> > In article >, > (PENMART01) wrote: > >>Default User > >> > >>What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is > >>milk with a bunch of sugar added. > > > >Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and > >Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used > >depends on where in the world one is. > > Well here in Oz, the two types are mostly different in sugar > content and "other" (water?). According to the compositions of the > Carnation formulations [best viewed in fixed font such as Courier]: Sheldum the idiot fails to recognize is that while technically possible to have condensed milk that is the same thing as evaporated, no US manufacturer produces such a thing. What you seen in the stores as condensed milk is sweetened condensed. Brian Rodenborn |
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![]() "Captain Infinity" > wrote in message ... > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? > > > ** > Captain Infinity From epicurious; Dimitri evaporated milk This canned, unsweetened milk is fresh, homogenized milk from which 60 percent of the water has been removed. Vitamin D is added for extra nutritional value. It comes in whole, lowfat and skim forms; the whole-milk version must contain at least 7.9 percent milk fat, the lowfat has about half that and the skim version 1/2 percent or less. As it comes from the can, evaporated milk is used to enrich custards or add a creamy texture to many dishes. When mixed with an equal amount of water, it can be substituted for fresh milk in recipes. Evaporated milk is less expensive than fresh milk and is therefore popular for many cooked dishes. It has a slightly caramelized, "canned" flavor that is not appreciated by all who taste it. Canned milk can be stored at room temperature until opened, after which it must be tightly covered and refrigerated for no more than a week. When slightly frozen, evaporated milk can be whipped and used as an inexpensive substitute for whipped cream. sweetened condensed milk A mixture of whole milk and sugar, 40 to 45 percent of which is sugar. This mixture is heated until about 60 percent of the water evaporates. The resulting condensed mixture is extremely sticky and sweet. Unsweetened condensed milk is referred to as EVAPORATED MILK. Store unopened sweetened condensed milk at room temperature for up to 6 months. Once opened, transfer the unused milk to an airtight container, refrigerate and use within 5 days. Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as candies, puddings, pies, etc. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst |
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![]() "Captain Infinity" > wrote in message ... > I see the cans sitting together on the shelf at the supermarket, but > don't know the purpose of either. Can someone tell me the difference > between evaporated milk and condensed milk? > > > ** > Captain Infinity From epicurious; Dimitri evaporated milk This canned, unsweetened milk is fresh, homogenized milk from which 60 percent of the water has been removed. Vitamin D is added for extra nutritional value. It comes in whole, lowfat and skim forms; the whole-milk version must contain at least 7.9 percent milk fat, the lowfat has about half that and the skim version 1/2 percent or less. As it comes from the can, evaporated milk is used to enrich custards or add a creamy texture to many dishes. When mixed with an equal amount of water, it can be substituted for fresh milk in recipes. Evaporated milk is less expensive than fresh milk and is therefore popular for many cooked dishes. It has a slightly caramelized, "canned" flavor that is not appreciated by all who taste it. Canned milk can be stored at room temperature until opened, after which it must be tightly covered and refrigerated for no more than a week. When slightly frozen, evaporated milk can be whipped and used as an inexpensive substitute for whipped cream. sweetened condensed milk A mixture of whole milk and sugar, 40 to 45 percent of which is sugar. This mixture is heated until about 60 percent of the water evaporates. The resulting condensed mixture is extremely sticky and sweet. Unsweetened condensed milk is referred to as EVAPORATED MILK. Store unopened sweetened condensed milk at room temperature for up to 6 months. Once opened, transfer the unused milk to an airtight container, refrigerate and use within 5 days. Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as candies, puddings, pies, etc. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst |
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Dimitri wrote:
> Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as > candies, puddings, pies, etc. Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! Brian Rodenborn |
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Dimitri wrote:
> Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as > candies, puddings, pies, etc. Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! Brian Rodenborn |
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Default User > wrote in
: > Dimitri wrote: > >> Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as >> candies, puddings, pies, etc. > > > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! > > > > > Brian Rodenborn > So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? -- Last year's nuts must go. - Micheal Odom |
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Default User > wrote in
: > Dimitri wrote: > >> Sweetened condensed milk is used in baked goods and desserts such as >> candies, puddings, pies, etc. > > > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! > > > > > Brian Rodenborn > So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? -- Last year's nuts must go. - Micheal Odom |
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>Default LUser splutters:
> >>Phred wrote: >>>(PENMART01) wrote: >> >>Default LUser splutters: >> >> >> >>What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is >> >>milk with a bunch of sugar added. >> > >> >Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and >> >Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used >> >depends on where in the world one is. >> >> Well here in Oz, the two types are mostly different in sugar >> content and "other" (water?). According to the compositions of the >> Carnation formulations [best viewed in fixed font such as Courier]: > > >Sheldum the idiot fails to recognize is that while technically possible >to have condensed milk that is the same thing as evaporated, no US >manufacturer produces such a thing. What you seen in the stores as >condensed milk is sweetened condensed. What you fail to recognize is that you are a food moron. sweetened condensed milk A mixture of whole milk and sugar, 40 to 45 percent of which is sugar. This mixture is heated until about 60 percent of the water evaporates. The resulting condensed mixture is extremely sticky and sweet. Unsweetened condensed milk is referred to as EVAPORATED MILK. . . and Brian Rodentborn is a jerk. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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>Default LUser splutters:
> >>Phred wrote: >>>(PENMART01) wrote: >> >>Default LUser splutters: >> >> >> >>What you see as "condensed milk" is sweetened condensed milk, that is >> >>milk with a bunch of sugar added. >> > >> >Nope. If it doesn't say "Sweetened" then it is not. Evaporated Milk and >> >Condensed Milk are EXACTLY the same... in modern times which term is used >> >depends on where in the world one is. >> >> Well here in Oz, the two types are mostly different in sugar >> content and "other" (water?). According to the compositions of the >> Carnation formulations [best viewed in fixed font such as Courier]: > > >Sheldum the idiot fails to recognize is that while technically possible >to have condensed milk that is the same thing as evaporated, no US >manufacturer produces such a thing. What you seen in the stores as >condensed milk is sweetened condensed. What you fail to recognize is that you are a food moron. sweetened condensed milk A mixture of whole milk and sugar, 40 to 45 percent of which is sugar. This mixture is heated until about 60 percent of the water evaporates. The resulting condensed mixture is extremely sticky and sweet. Unsweetened condensed milk is referred to as EVAPORATED MILK. . . and Brian Rodentborn is a jerk. © Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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hahabogus wrote:
> > Default User > wrote in > : > > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! > > So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are you? Brian Rodenborn |
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hahabogus wrote:
> > Default User > wrote in > : > > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! > > So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are you? Brian Rodenborn |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:50:06 +0000, Default User wrote:
> hahabogus wrote: >> Default User > wrote in >> : > >> > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! >> So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? > Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are > you? A properly constructed key lime pie gets its beautiful pale greenishness from carefully stripped and slivered lime zest. If the egg yolks are given enough rest time with the lime juice, they don't ooze. We have friends in San Diego whose lemon tree produces lovely half-tart lemons with incredibly aromatic peels. Mostly, I make delicious pale yellow lemon pie. Martin -- Martin Golding | There is no spectacle on earth more appealing than DoD #236 | a beautiful woman cooking dinner for someone she loves. |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:50:06 +0000, Default User wrote:
> hahabogus wrote: >> Default User > wrote in >> : > >> > Starting to feel like key lime pie time again! >> So you feel green and lumpy...And if left out over night you ooze water? > Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are > you? A properly constructed key lime pie gets its beautiful pale greenishness from carefully stripped and slivered lime zest. If the egg yolks are given enough rest time with the lime juice, they don't ooze. We have friends in San Diego whose lemon tree produces lovely half-tart lemons with incredibly aromatic peels. Mostly, I make delicious pale yellow lemon pie. Martin -- Martin Golding | There is no spectacle on earth more appealing than DoD #236 | a beautiful woman cooking dinner for someone she loves. |
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Martin Golding wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:50:06 +0000, Default User wrote: > > Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are > > you? > > A properly constructed key lime pie gets its beautiful pale greenishness > from carefully stripped and slivered lime zest. If the egg yolks are > given enough rest time with the lime juice, they don't ooze. Unless you put an awful lot of zest in, it won't measurably affect the color. > We have friends in San Diego whose lemon tree produces lovely half-tart > lemons with incredibly aromatic peels. Mostly, I make delicious pale > yellow lemon pie. That sounds pretty good. Do you just follow the key lime basics only with lemon, or is it another recipe altogether? Brian Rodenborn |
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Martin Golding wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:50:06 +0000, Default User wrote: > > Green? You aren't one of those that put food coloring in the pies are > > you? > > A properly constructed key lime pie gets its beautiful pale greenishness > from carefully stripped and slivered lime zest. If the egg yolks are > given enough rest time with the lime juice, they don't ooze. Unless you put an awful lot of zest in, it won't measurably affect the color. > We have friends in San Diego whose lemon tree produces lovely half-tart > lemons with incredibly aromatic peels. Mostly, I make delicious pale > yellow lemon pie. That sounds pretty good. Do you just follow the key lime basics only with lemon, or is it another recipe altogether? Brian Rodenborn |
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_.-In rec.food.cooking, notbob wrote the following -._
> Your attempts at original thought just make it worse. <modquote> -- .-')) http://asciipr0n.com/fp ('-. | It's a damn poor mind that ' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to ((,,_;'.;' UIN=66618055 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word. ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._)) | - Andrew Jackson |
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_.-In rec.food.cooking, notbob wrote the following -._
> Your attempts at original thought just make it worse. <modquote> -- .-')) http://asciipr0n.com/fp ('-. | It's a damn poor mind that ' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to ((,,_;'.;' UIN=66618055 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word. ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._)) | - Andrew Jackson |
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