Hi All!

We're about to get a new electric tea kettle - does anybody have either
the Philips or the Bodum Ibis kettle?

I've read some reviews, and they seem fairly fungible, except that the
Bodum seems to be a bit faster to get to boil - the review I read said
it will boil a full kettle in about 4 minutes; the Philips says simply
"under 6 minutes". Anybody here have any real-world figures?

Also, one review said the Bodum's water window (to see how much water is
in the kettle) was useless, and that the filling door was difficult to
open.

Finally, I know that the Philips has a chime which sounds when the
water boils - but can't find anything indicating whether the Ibis makes
any notifying noise when the water boils. Does anybody know?

Thanks!

Anne

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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 20:52:09 -0700, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> wrote:

>
> Hi All!
>
> We're about to get a new electric tea kettle - does anybody have either
> the Philips or the Bodum Ibis kettle?

Hi Anne,

In Europe you will find electric water boilers everywhere, and my
experience with them has told me a few thing to look out for

1. The looks - you will want to keep it on the kitchen counter, so it
should look good
2. Power/Wattage - I always look for the wattage, generally the higher the
wattage, the faster the water boils
3. Functionality - is the lid easy to open/close, does it have a filter
(for calcium deposits etc), is it easy to see how much water there is in
the kettle etc.
4. The kettle should be cordless and easy to pick up and put down on the
base.
5. The cord should be as short as possible (a long cord may hang out over
the counter and children can get hold of it with disastrous results).

I have no particular opinions about the two kettles you mentioned, but go
to the store, pick them up, look and feel.

By the way, have you considered a Zojirushi pot? It not only boils the
water, but also keeps it hot. Very convenient. I wouldn't be without mine!

Good luck!

Lars
(Bergen, Norway)


> I've read some reviews, and they seem fairly fungible, except that the
> Bodum seems to be a bit faster to get to boil - the review I read said
> it will boil a full kettle in about 4 minutes; the Philips says simply
> "under 6 minutes". Anybody here have any real-world figures?
>
> Also, one review said the Bodum's water window (to see how much water is
> in the kettle) was useless, and that the filling door was difficult to
> open.
>
> Finally, I know that the Philips has a chime which sounds when the
> water boils - but can't find anything indicating whether the Ibis makes
> any notifying noise when the water boils. Does anybody know?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anne
>



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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 20:52:09 -0700, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> wrote:

>
> Hi All!
>
> We're about to get a new electric tea kettle - does anybody have either
> the Philips or the Bodum Ibis kettle?

Hi Anne,

In Europe you will find electric water boilers everywhere, and my
experience with them has told me a few thing to look out for

1. The looks - you will want to keep it on the kitchen counter, so it
should look good
2. Power/Wattage - I always look for the wattage, generally the higher the
wattage, the faster the water boils
3. Functionality - is the lid easy to open/close, does it have a filter
(for calcium deposits etc), is it easy to see how much water there is in
the kettle etc.
4. The kettle should be cordless and easy to pick up and put down on the
base.
5. The cord should be as short as possible (a long cord may hang out over
the counter and children can get hold of it with disastrous results).

I have no particular opinions about the two kettles you mentioned, but go
to the store, pick them up, look and feel.

By the way, have you considered a Zojirushi pot? It not only boils the
water, but also keeps it hot. Very convenient. I wouldn't be without mine!

Good luck!

Lars
(Bergen, Norway)


> I've read some reviews, and they seem fairly fungible, except that the
> Bodum seems to be a bit faster to get to boil - the review I read said
> it will boil a full kettle in about 4 minutes; the Philips says simply
> "under 6 minutes". Anybody here have any real-world figures?
>
> Also, one review said the Bodum's water window (to see how much water is
> in the kettle) was useless, and that the filling door was difficult to
> open.
>
> Finally, I know that the Philips has a chime which sounds when the
> water boils - but can't find anything indicating whether the Ibis makes
> any notifying noise when the water boils. Does anybody know?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anne
>



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My girlfriend got me a "Morphy-something" stainless kettle.. boils very
fast. She's from Scotland and had it shipped over. Only problem is the
damn thing's in liters! It holds '1.7' liters and has little weird markings
up the side.. '6' '8' '10' then '1.7'.. can't figure out what they mean
unless it's something like deciliters.. but who measures stuff in
deciliters? "Hey John, I sure could use 6 deciliters of coffee right about
now.. actually make it 8!" "Deciliters of tequila all around!"

FF


"Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi All!
>
> We're about to get a new electric tea kettle - does anybody have either
> the Philips or the Bodum Ibis kettle?
>
> I've read some reviews, and they seem fairly fungible, except that the
> Bodum seems to be a bit faster to get to boil - the review I read said
> it will boil a full kettle in about 4 minutes; the Philips says simply
> "under 6 minutes". Anybody here have any real-world figures?
>
> Also, one review said the Bodum's water window (to see how much water is
> in the kettle) was useless, and that the filling door was difficult to
> open.
>
> Finally, I know that the Philips has a chime which sounds when the
> water boils - but can't find anything indicating whether the Ibis makes
> any notifying noise when the water boils. Does anybody know?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anne
>
> --
> I am: Mom, Attorney, Columnist, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam
> http://www.accidentalevangelist.com (Personal blog)
> http://www.aunty-spam.com (Anti-Spam blog)
> http://www.dadsrights.org (Fathers' Rights site)

My girlfriend got me a "Morphy-something" stainless kettle.. boils very
fast. She's from Scotland and had it shipped over. Only problem is the
damn thing's in liters! It holds '1.7' liters and has little weird markings
up the side.. '6' '8' '10' then '1.7'.. can't figure out what they mean
unless it's something like deciliters.. but who measures stuff in
deciliters? "Hey John, I sure could use 6 deciliters of coffee right about
now.. actually make it 8!" "Deciliters of tequila all around!"

FF


"Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi All!
>
> We're about to get a new electric tea kettle - does anybody have either
> the Philips or the Bodum Ibis kettle?
>
> I've read some reviews, and they seem fairly fungible, except that the
> Bodum seems to be a bit faster to get to boil - the review I read said
> it will boil a full kettle in about 4 minutes; the Philips says simply
> "under 6 minutes". Anybody here have any real-world figures?
>
> Also, one review said the Bodum's water window (to see how much water is
> in the kettle) was useless, and that the filling door was difficult to
> open.
>
> Finally, I know that the Philips has a chime which sounds when the
> water boils - but can't find anything indicating whether the Ibis makes
> any notifying noise when the water boils. Does anybody know?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anne
>
> --
> I am: Mom, Attorney, Columnist, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam
> http://www.accidentalevangelist.com (Personal blog)
> http://www.aunty-spam.com (Anti-Spam blog)
> http://www.dadsrights.org (Fathers' Rights site)

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:12:30 GMT, Falky foo >
wrote:

> .. but who measures stuff in
> deciliters?

Probably everyone who has never been part of the British Empire, i.e. most
of the world?

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:12:30 GMT, Falky foo >
wrote:

> .. but who measures stuff in
> deciliters?

Probably everyone who has never been part of the British Empire, i.e. most
of the world?

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:12:30 GMT, Falky foo >
wrote:

> .. but who measures stuff in
> deciliters?

Probably everyone who has never been part of the British Empire, i.e. most
of the world?

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Falky foo wrote:

> unless it's something like deciliters.. but who measures stuff in
> deciliters? "Hey John, I sure could use 6 deciliters of coffee right about
> now.. actually make it 8!" "Deciliters of tequila all around!"
>

In case you find out where they measure tequila in deciliters, let me
know! I thought even you folks across the Northern Sea would measure
drinks in centiliters (cc) which is off course also built on the metric
system, but then, I could be wrong. Come on, and keep up with the rest
of us :-).
Sorry if all this is moving away from the bodum or not to bodum question.

Regards,
Ole K,
Trondheim,
Norway

"Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote:
>
> Hi All!
>

I've had the Philips and about 3 others, and the one I have now ("chef's
choice", the tall one) has out lasted and out performed the rest put
together.
blacksalt

"Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." wrote:
>
> Hi All!
>

I've had the Philips and about 3 others, and the one I have now ("chef's
choice", the tall one) has out lasted and out performed the rest put
together.
blacksalt

"Ole Kvaal" > wrote in message
...
> I thought even you folks across the Northern Sea would measure
> drinks in centiliters (cc)

cc is the abbreviation for 'cubic centimeter' -- the equivalent of 1
milliliter. The abbreviation for centiliter is cl

Gabby

"Ole Kvaal" > wrote in message
...
> I thought even you folks across the Northern Sea would measure
> drinks in centiliters (cc)

cc is the abbreviation for 'cubic centimeter' -- the equivalent of 1
milliliter. The abbreviation for centiliter is cl

Gabby

John D. Misrahi > wrote:
> Ole K jotted:
>>drinks in centiliters (cc) which is off course also built on the metric
>>system, but then, I could be wrong. Come on, and keep up with the rest
>>of us :-).
>
>What is a centileter? 10 ml (10 x 100 = 1000 (1 L) ?
>
>john
>

Yep, a centilitre (cl) is 10ml, or 0.01 l. However a cubic-centimtre
(cc) is 1 ml (milli-litre). Thus 10cc = 10ml = 1cl :-)

Chris...

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Gabby wrote:

> "Ole Kvaal" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I thought even you folks across the Northern Sea would measure
>>drinks in centiliters (cc)
>
>
> cc is the abbreviation for 'cubic centimeter' -- the equivalent of 1
> milliliter. The abbreviation for centiliter is cl
>
Yup, you're both (you and Chris J) quite right. I was a bit too eager in
trying to demonstrate the superiority of the metric system.

ole k
(still slightly anglophile, though)

Gabby wrote:

> "Ole Kvaal" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I thought even you folks across the Northern Sea would measure
>>drinks in centiliters (cc)
>
>
> cc is the abbreviation for 'cubic centimeter' -- the equivalent of 1
> milliliter. The abbreviation for centiliter is cl
>
Yup, you're both (you and Chris J) quite right. I was a bit too eager in
trying to demonstrate the superiority of the metric system.

ole k
(still slightly anglophile, though)

What is a centileter? 10 ml (10 x 100 = 1000 (1 L) ?

john

>drinks in centiliters (cc) which is off course also built on the metric
>system, but then, I could be wrong. Come on, and keep up with the rest
>of us :-).
>Sorry if all this is moving away from the bodum or not to bodum question.
>
>Regards,
>Ole K,
>Trondheim,
>Norway

What is a centileter? 10 ml (10 x 100 = 1000 (1 L) ?

john

>drinks in centiliters (cc) which is off course also built on the metric
>system, but then, I could be wrong. Come on, and keep up with the rest
>of us :-).
>Sorry if all this is moving away from the bodum or not to bodum question.
>
>Regards,
>Ole K,
>Trondheim,
>Norway

What is a centileter? 10 ml (10 x 100 = 1000 (1 L) ?

john

>drinks in centiliters (cc) which is off course also built on the metric
>system, but then, I could be wrong. Come on, and keep up with the rest
>of us :-).
>Sorry if all this is moving away from the bodum or not to bodum question.
>
>Regards,
>Ole K,
>Trondheim,
>Norway

So instead of saying "Hey baby, give me a cup of tea" you'd say "Hey baby,
give me 2.365 deciliters of tea." ??? I don't believe that!


"Lars Mehlum" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:12:30 GMT, Falky foo >
> wrote:
>
> > .. but who measures stuff in
> > deciliters?
>
> Probably everyone who has never been part of the British Empire, i.e. most
> of the world?
>
> --
> Lars Mehlum
>
> Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

So instead of saying "Hey baby, give me a cup of tea" you'd say "Hey baby,
give me 2.365 deciliters of tea." ??? I don't believe that!


"Lars Mehlum" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 09:12:30 GMT, Falky foo >
> wrote:
>
> > .. but who measures stuff in
> > deciliters?
>
> Probably everyone who has never been part of the British Empire, i.e. most
> of the world?
>
> --
> Lars Mehlum
>
> Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

"Falky foo" > wrote in message
m...
> So instead of saying "Hey baby, give me a cup of tea" you'd say "Hey baby,
> give me 2.365 deciliters of tea." ??? I don't believe that!

Not likely that he'd use deciliters when ordering tea but then again, 'a cup
of tea' identifies the container, not the amount since cups vary greatly in
size and you could get your tea in a fancy 'odd cup & saucer' type cup for
about 4 or 5 ounces or a mug containing 12 ounces.

Gabby

Thanks everyone for your both useful, and metrically education <grin>
feedback.

In the end, as between the Bodum and the Philips, I decided that having
it tell me when it had boiled (the little bell) was reallly important to
me. Usually we set the water on, then go back to work at our computers
and get immersed and lost in work, so having that signal is really good
for us.

So I picked one up (couldn't find one anywhere - finally checked Target
- they were out, but I begged and the nice manager let me have the floor
model. <grin>.

We really like it. It boils 6 1/2 cups of water in 4 minutes, 12 in
about 6.

It takes a few seconds after reaching boiling to ding and shut off, so
if you get one, don't think that it won't do it (like we did) - it just
takes a moment.

Anne

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Thanks everyone for your both useful, and metrically education <grin>
feedback.

In the end, as between the Bodum and the Philips, I decided that having
it tell me when it had boiled (the little bell) was reallly important to
me. Usually we set the water on, then go back to work at our computers
and get immersed and lost in work, so having that signal is really good
for us.

So I picked one up (couldn't find one anywhere - finally checked Target
- they were out, but I begged and the nice manager let me have the floor
model. <grin>.

We really like it. It boils 6 1/2 cups of water in 4 minutes, 12 in
about 6.

It takes a few seconds after reaching boiling to ding and shut off, so
if you get one, don't think that it won't do it (like we did) - it just
takes a moment.

Anne

--
I am: Mom, Attorney, Columnist, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam
http://www.accidentalevangelist.com (Personal blog)
http://www.aunty-spam.com (Anti-Spam blog)
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