Becca wrote:

> zxcvbob wrote:
>
>> I peel one or two representative ears back a little to check if they
>> are filled out OK
>
>
> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
> Texas, yet.
>
> Becca
>


I wonder if the produce manager is smart enough to save the corn shucks
and sell them later as tamale wrappers.

Bob

Becca wrote:

> zxcvbob wrote:
>
>> I peel one or two representative ears back a little to check if they
>> are filled out OK
>
>
> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
> Texas, yet.
>
> Becca
>


I wonder if the produce manager is smart enough to save the corn shucks
and sell them later as tamale wrappers.

Bob

notbob wrote:

OTOH, how do you think those under/over-ripe
> berries get on the bottom while the ones on top are picture perfect. It's
> because they are put there ...on purpose! It's deceptive packaging and it's
> standard practice. Just because you choose to overlook fraud doesn't mean
> anyone else has to.


You think? The strawberry industry actually has the forethought and
money to pay fruit packaging employees to go through and sort the
berries into unripe, bruised and perfect categories, then put them into
the packages with the perfect ones on top? I always figured the ones on
the bottom were bruised and mushy because of the forces of gravity and
the unripe ones were distributed at random. But I don't know; I don't
work in the fruit picking, packaging or shipping industry. (Am I
missing irony here? It wouldn't be the first time.)

--Lia

notbob wrote:

OTOH, how do you think those under/over-ripe
> berries get on the bottom while the ones on top are picture perfect. It's
> because they are put there ...on purpose! It's deceptive packaging and it's
> standard practice. Just because you choose to overlook fraud doesn't mean
> anyone else has to.


You think? The strawberry industry actually has the forethought and
money to pay fruit packaging employees to go through and sort the
berries into unripe, bruised and perfect categories, then put them into
the packages with the perfect ones on top? I always figured the ones on
the bottom were bruised and mushy because of the forces of gravity and
the unripe ones were distributed at random. But I don't know; I don't
work in the fruit picking, packaging or shipping industry. (Am I
missing irony here? It wouldn't be the first time.)

--Lia

Funny you mention this thing.

Yesterday, I saw folks stripping corn in a Walmart...first time I ever
saw that done at the point of purchase.

Maybe it's a regional thing.

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Funny you mention this thing.

Yesterday, I saw folks stripping corn in a Walmart...first time I ever
saw that done at the point of purchase.

Maybe it's a regional thing.

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On 2004-08-24, zxcvbob > wrote:

> I wonder if the produce manager is smart enough to save the corn shucks
> and sell them later as tamale wrappers.

Considering the high number of illegals in this country, it sounds like a
reasonable explanation for encouraging (bins near corn) this practice.

nb

On 2004-08-24, zxcvbob > wrote:

> I wonder if the produce manager is smart enough to save the corn shucks
> and sell them later as tamale wrappers.

Considering the high number of illegals in this country, it sounds like a
reasonable explanation for encouraging (bins near corn) this practice.

nb

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:gPJWc.60273$mD.40080@attbi_s02...
> notbob wrote:
>
> OTOH, how do you think those under/over-ripe
> > berries get on the bottom while the ones on top are picture perfect.
It's
> > because they are put there ...on purpose! It's deceptive packaging and
it's
> > standard practice. Just because you choose to overlook fraud doesn't
mean
> > anyone else has to.
>
>
> You think? The strawberry industry actually has the forethought and
> money to pay fruit packaging employees to go through and sort the
> berries into unripe, bruised and perfect categories, then put them into
> the packages with the perfect ones on top? I always figured the ones on
> the bottom were bruised and mushy because of the forces of gravity and
> the unripe ones were distributed at random. But I don't know; I don't
> work in the fruit picking, packaging or shipping industry. (Am I
> missing irony here? It wouldn't be the first time.)


pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?

heck ya they sort them. they can charge a premium for premium berries.

randy

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
news:gPJWc.60273$mD.40080@attbi_s02...
> notbob wrote:
>
> OTOH, how do you think those under/over-ripe
> > berries get on the bottom while the ones on top are picture perfect.
It's
> > because they are put there ...on purpose! It's deceptive packaging and
it's
> > standard practice. Just because you choose to overlook fraud doesn't
mean
> > anyone else has to.
>
>
> You think? The strawberry industry actually has the forethought and
> money to pay fruit packaging employees to go through and sort the
> berries into unripe, bruised and perfect categories, then put them into
> the packages with the perfect ones on top? I always figured the ones on
> the bottom were bruised and mushy because of the forces of gravity and
> the unripe ones were distributed at random. But I don't know; I don't
> work in the fruit picking, packaging or shipping industry. (Am I
> missing irony here? It wouldn't be the first time.)


pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?

heck ya they sort them. they can charge a premium for premium berries.

randy

In article >,
(Alex Rast) wrote:
(snip)
> And people *have* been hand-selecting for years. Ever since there
> have been markets, people have gone and examined fruits for the best
> ones, picked out the very best pieces of meat, taken the nicest,
> freshest vegetables.

I love watching the haggling that goes on at our two local farmers
markets. I think the Asian women get the highest marks, followed by the
Middle-Eastern men. The Asian ladies are not above switching choice
pieces of produce with lesser ones in the already-portioned baskets to
buy. Usually they get scolded for it when they're caught.

The guys seem to be better at, "If I buy two, will you give me X dollars
off?" Actually, it's more like, "You'll give me X dollars off if I buy
two, yes?" Us Gringas don't seem to do much of it, although I will
examine all the tomatoes in the basket and ask for a replacement for a
bruised one.
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In article >,
Becca > wrote:

> zxcvbob wrote:
>
> > I peel one or two representative ears back a little to check if they
> > are filled out OK
>
> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
> Texas, yet.
>
> Becca
>

I saw folks at Central Market in Austin doing it the other day. ;-)

Sorry.

I personally have stopped doing that even tho' mom taught me to just
partially pull back a small section at the top.

Now I just pick out the largest, fattest ears.

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>
>sumgai wrote:
>
>>The people I see shucking corn into the bin usually live in
>>apartments and clearly want to generate as little garbage as
>>possible at home.
>
>I not being argumentative - really - but how do you know where
>the people you see in the store live?

Easy to recognize city subsidized tenement neighbors... look in their cart...
all they buy is beer, watermelon, beer, corn, and beer.

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha.. . .



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>(Kevintsheehy)
>
>sumgai wrote:
>
>>The people I see shucking corn into the bin usually live in
>>apartments and clearly want to generate as little garbage as
>>possible at home.
>
>I not being argumentative - really - but how do you know where
>the people you see in the store live?

Easy to recognize city subsidized tenement neighbors... look in their cart...
all they buy is beer, watermelon, beer, corn, and beer.

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha.. . .



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>Dave Smith writes:
>
>>Bubbablue wrote:
>>
>> Maybe some people don't like paying $1.99/lb for husks and corn silk....
>
>If that's the case, what do they do about the cobs?

You're actually asking someone named Bubbablue how to use corn cobs... IDIOT!



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>Dave Smith writes:
>
>>Bubbablue wrote:
>>
>> Maybe some people don't like paying $1.99/lb for husks and corn silk....
>
>If that's the case, what do they do about the cobs?

You're actually asking someone named Bubbablue how to use corn cobs... IDIOT!



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>(Kevintsheehy) writes:
>
>>Tank wrote:
>>
>>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery stores placing
>>trash cans next to their sweet corn displays.
>
><snip>
>
>My issue in this same vein involves asparagus. The asparagus isn't
>prepackaged, but it is bundled,
>usually with a rubber band. I don't know whether the store staff bundles them
or >whether they come that way from the distributor.

Aspargus are bundled in the field, and packed in special cartons that contain a
water soaked "sponge" for them to sit on, and the cartons also provide about 4'
headroom as asparagus continue to grow after harvesting.... bet yoose din't
know that.

>Every bundle, which typically contains maybe 20 to 30 spears, depending on
>thickness, has several "busted" heads, i.e. spears that have gone to seed.

Asparagus don't go to seed... the damage is from handling... asparagus are
delicate so some will break regardless how carefully handled. Btw, was not too
long ago that asparagus were only available from local farms and only for a
very short time, and they were expensive. Nowadays with air freight and modern
agra-tech methods asparagus are uniformly available all year and at reasonable
cost... so quitcha bitchin over a couple busts.

>At first I accepted this.
>I pointed out my issue to the produce clerks in the various stores.
>They uniformly said to just pull out the spears I didn't want and leave them
>on the side of the display.

That's nuthin, I've always done that, but I also walk over to the corn husk
trash can, pull out my pen knife and lickitysplit slice off the tough ends....
hey, they're selling them by the pound and I don't eat the tough ends... I peel
away the tough outer leaves from cabbage too. I've actually seen old ladies
pick off the stems from cherries... no, I don't bother.


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>(Kevintsheehy) writes:
>
>>Tank wrote:
>>
>>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery stores placing
>>trash cans next to their sweet corn displays.
>
><snip>
>
>My issue in this same vein involves asparagus. The asparagus isn't
>prepackaged, but it is bundled,
>usually with a rubber band. I don't know whether the store staff bundles them
or >whether they come that way from the distributor.

Aspargus are bundled in the field, and packed in special cartons that contain a
water soaked "sponge" for them to sit on, and the cartons also provide about 4'
headroom as asparagus continue to grow after harvesting.... bet yoose din't
know that.

>Every bundle, which typically contains maybe 20 to 30 spears, depending on
>thickness, has several "busted" heads, i.e. spears that have gone to seed.

Asparagus don't go to seed... the damage is from handling... asparagus are
delicate so some will break regardless how carefully handled. Btw, was not too
long ago that asparagus were only available from local farms and only for a
very short time, and they were expensive. Nowadays with air freight and modern
agra-tech methods asparagus are uniformly available all year and at reasonable
cost... so quitcha bitchin over a couple busts.

>At first I accepted this.
>I pointed out my issue to the produce clerks in the various stores.
>They uniformly said to just pull out the spears I didn't want and leave them
>on the side of the display.

That's nuthin, I've always done that, but I also walk over to the corn husk
trash can, pull out my pen knife and lickitysplit slice off the tough ends....
hey, they're selling them by the pound and I don't eat the tough ends... I peel
away the tough outer leaves from cabbage too. I've actually seen old ladies
pick off the stems from cherries... no, I don't bother.


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>Katra writes:
>
>>Becca wrote:
>>
>> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
>> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
>> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
>> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
>> Texas, yet.
>
>I personally have stopped doing that even tho' mom taught me to just
>partially pull back a small section at the top.
>
>Now I just pick out the largest, fattest.

I'm pretty certain Becca does that too. hehe


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>Katra writes:
>
>>Becca wrote:
>>
>> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
>> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
>> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
>> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
>> Texas, yet.
>
>I personally have stopped doing that even tho' mom taught me to just
>partially pull back a small section at the top.
>
>Now I just pick out the largest, fattest.

I'm pretty certain Becca does that too. hehe


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On 2004-08-24, xrongor > wrote:

> pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
> 'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
> the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
> cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?


Quality can not be determined by the label on the can. For example, I
recently complained to Del Monte because their sweet relish had taken on an
unacceptable off flavor. Also, when I worked at a ancient little cannery in
Oregon, we put out some of the finest canned veggies on the market, all
labeled with a brand name I'm sure no one here has ever heard of. Heck, I
don't even remember it. Sure, some premium brands tend to keep a high
minimum standard (Birdseye is pretty consistent), but it is no guarantee.
Besides, once a can goes through the cooking process, it could've had
leprosy and it wouldn't make any difference.

> heck ya they sort them. they can charge a premium for premium berries.

They only sort them for size and defects. The initial quality is determined
by the buyers who go out and purchase whole crops.

nb

In article >,
(PENMART01) wrote:

> >Katra writes:
> >
> >>Becca wrote:
> >>
> >> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
> >> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
> >> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
> >> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
> >> Texas, yet.
> >
> >I personally have stopped doing that even tho' mom taught me to just
> >partially pull back a small section at the top.
> >
> >Now I just pick out the largest, fattest.
>
> I'm pretty certain Becca does that too. hehe
>
> Sheldon

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In article >,
(PENMART01) wrote:

> >Katra writes:
> >
> >>Becca wrote:
> >>
> >> In June, I was in Miami. The corn was in an end cap display and there
> >> were two huge cardboard boxes beneath the corn. People were shucking
> >> their corn in the store. I visit Florida a few times each year, and
> >> this was the first time I had seen this. We are not doing that in
> >> Texas, yet.
> >
> >I personally have stopped doing that even tho' mom taught me to just
> >partially pull back a small section at the top.
> >
> >Now I just pick out the largest, fattest.
>
> I'm pretty certain Becca does that too. hehe
>
> Sheldon

<shiver> PuppyWizard???

K.

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><shiver> PuppyWizard???
>
>K.

Huh?


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>notbob writes:
>
>>xrongor wrote:
>>
>> pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
>> 'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
>> the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
>> cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?
>
>
>Quality can not be determined by the label on the can. For example, I
>recently complained to Del Monte because their sweet relish had taken on an
>unacceptable off flavor. Also, when I worked at a ancient little cannery in
>Oregon, we put out some of the finest canned veggies on the market, all
>labeled with a brand name I'm sure no one here has ever heard of. Heck, I
>don't even remember it. Sure, some premium brands tend to keep a high
>minimum standard (Birdseye is pretty consistent), but it is no guarantee.

I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
frozen?

http://www.birdseyefoods.com/birdseye


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>notbob writes:
>
>>xrongor wrote:
>>
>> pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
>> 'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
>> the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
>> cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?
>
>
>Quality can not be determined by the label on the can. For example, I
>recently complained to Del Monte because their sweet relish had taken on an
>unacceptable off flavor. Also, when I worked at a ancient little cannery in
>Oregon, we put out some of the finest canned veggies on the market, all
>labeled with a brand name I'm sure no one here has ever heard of. Heck, I
>don't even remember it. Sure, some premium brands tend to keep a high
>minimum standard (Birdseye is pretty consistent), but it is no guarantee.

I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
frozen?

http://www.birdseyefoods.com/birdseye


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>notbob writes:
>
>>xrongor wrote:
>>
>> pick any vegetable or fruit that comes in a can. go down and buy a
>> 'premium' brand and an el cheapo brand. you think its a coincidence that
>> the beans in the expensive brand look so much better than the ones in the
>> cheapie can? and have much less stems/skin/flack on them?
>
>
>Quality can not be determined by the label on the can. For example, I
>recently complained to Del Monte because their sweet relish had taken on an
>unacceptable off flavor. Also, when I worked at a ancient little cannery in
>Oregon, we put out some of the finest canned veggies on the market, all
>labeled with a brand name I'm sure no one here has ever heard of. Heck, I
>don't even remember it. Sure, some premium brands tend to keep a high
>minimum standard (Birdseye is pretty consistent), but it is no guarantee.

I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
frozen?

http://www.birdseyefoods.com/birdseye


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PENMART01 wrote:

>
>
> Asparagus don't go to seed...

Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to the people who
seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought it and started their asparagus
plants.

PENMART01 wrote:

>
>
> Asparagus don't go to seed...

Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to the people who
seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought it and started their asparagus
plants.

>Dave Smith
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>PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> Asparagus don't go to seed...
>
>Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to the people
>who
>seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought it and started their
>asparagus
>plants.

Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil, etc.
Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown from
seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal,
because the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be
determined. In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants do
not produce seed...try to ingest that.


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>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>>
>> Asparagus don't go to seed...
>
>Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to the people
>who
>seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought it and started their
>asparagus
>plants.

Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil, etc.
Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown from
seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal,
because the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be
determined. In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants do
not produce seed...try to ingest that.


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On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:

> I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
> frozen?

I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

nb

On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:

> I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
> frozen?

I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:
>
> > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
> > frozen?
>
> I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

You just have to figure they're the same company. Like, both owned
by Kraft or Sara Lee/whatever.

nancy

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:
>
> > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only do
> > frozen?
>
> I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

You just have to figure they're the same company. Like, both owned
by Kraft or Sara Lee/whatever.

nancy

PENMART01 wrote:

>
> >PENMART01 wrote:
> >>
> >> Asparagus don't go to seed...
> >
> >Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to >the people
> who seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought > it and started their
> asparagus plants.
>
> Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil, etc.
> Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown from
> seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal, because
> the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be determined.
> In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
> seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants do
> not produce seed...try to ingest that.

Just where the hell do you think they get the seeds that, as you admit, can be
planted? I am quite aware of the fact that most people who grow their own
asparagus start with roots. The roots they plant come from nurseries who started
them from seed.

Asparagus grows wild around here. I have grown asparagus in my garden, started
with roots from a nursery. There is no question that it is better to start with
year old roots than to plant seeds. Oddly, there are always some stalks that grow
up too straggly to be cut for dinner. Left uncut, those plants develop little
round seeds.

People who wish to grow their own strawberries usually buy strawberry plants. Once
those things take root they start to sending out rhizomes to create new plants.
Yet, the strawberry plant produces seeds. Farmers and home gardeners rarely buy
seed to start their plants, preferring to buy established plants and transplanting
them.

Similarly, there is a tremendous market for raspberry canes. It is the quickest
and easiest way to establish enough plants to get a decent crop. For some reason,
raspberries also produce their own seed.

For some reason, who would have us believe that asparagus does not go to seed, but
I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, once again, you
are wrong.

PENMART01 wrote:

>
> >PENMART01 wrote:
> >>
> >> Asparagus don't go to seed...
> >
> >Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to >the people
> who seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought > it and started their
> asparagus plants.
>
> Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil, etc.
> Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown from
> seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal, because
> the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be determined.
> In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
> seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants do
> not produce seed...try to ingest that.

Just where the hell do you think they get the seeds that, as you admit, can be
planted? I am quite aware of the fact that most people who grow their own
asparagus start with roots. The roots they plant come from nurseries who started
them from seed.

Asparagus grows wild around here. I have grown asparagus in my garden, started
with roots from a nursery. There is no question that it is better to start with
year old roots than to plant seeds. Oddly, there are always some stalks that grow
up too straggly to be cut for dinner. Left uncut, those plants develop little
round seeds.

People who wish to grow their own strawberries usually buy strawberry plants. Once
those things take root they start to sending out rhizomes to create new plants.
Yet, the strawberry plant produces seeds. Farmers and home gardeners rarely buy
seed to start their plants, preferring to buy established plants and transplanting
them.

Similarly, there is a tremendous market for raspberry canes. It is the quickest
and easiest way to establish enough plants to get a decent crop. For some reason,
raspberries also produce their own seed.

For some reason, who would have us believe that asparagus does not go to seed, but
I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, once again, you
are wrong.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:
> >
> > > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they
only do
> > > frozen?
> >
> > I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.
>
> You just have to figure they're the same company. Like, both owned
> by Kraft or Sara Lee/whatever.
>
> nancy

Yeah kinda like ice cream...
Buy Dreyers, Edy's, Nestle bars, Drumsticks, Haagen Dazs or Starbucks....and
you're buying the same ice cream. Well, at least, it's all made by the same
people.

kimberly

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
> >
> > On 2004-08-24, PENMART01 > wrote:
> >
> > > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they
only do
> > > frozen?
> >
> > I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.
>
> You just have to figure they're the same company. Like, both owned
> by Kraft or Sara Lee/whatever.
>
> nancy

Yeah kinda like ice cream...
Buy Dreyers, Edy's, Nestle bars, Drumsticks, Haagen Dazs or Starbucks....and
you're buying the same ice cream. Well, at least, it's all made by the same
people.

kimberly

"notbob" wrote:
> PENMART01 wrote:
>
> > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only
do
> > frozen?
>
> I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
the label, the more crap that went in.

It's no different now. However I am VERY surprised to pick up a package of
high end name brand veggies and find it full of mush and stems. I don't pay
top dollar for crap. That's one of the reasons I can and freeze.

<I'll determine the quality of my own food, thanks very much>