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"notbob" wrote:
> PENMART01 wrote:
>
> > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only

do
> > frozen?

>
> I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.


When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
the label, the more crap that went in.

It's no different now. However I am VERY surprised to pick up a package of
high end name brand veggies and find it full of mush and stems. I don't pay
top dollar for crap. That's one of the reasons I can and freeze.

<I'll determine the quality of my own food, thanks very much>



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On 2004-08-24, pennyaline > wrote:
>
> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
> the label, the more crap that went in.


Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
put a "Krapt" label on it.

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On 2004-08-24, pennyaline > wrote:
>
> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
> the label, the more crap that went in.


Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
put a "Krapt" label on it.

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>Dave Smith
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>>
>> >PENMART01 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Asparagus don't go to seed...
>> >
>> >Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to >the

>people
>> who seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought > it and started

>their
>> asparagus plants.
>>
>> Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil,

>etc.
>> Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown

>from
>> seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal,

>because
>> the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be

>determined.
>> In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
>> seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants

>do
>> not produce seed...try to ingest that.

>
>Just where the hell do you think they get the seeds that, as you admit, can
>be
>planted? I am quite aware of the fact that most people who grow their own
>asparagus start with roots. The roots they plant come from nurseries who
>started
>them from seed.
>
>Asparagus grows wild around here. I have grown asparagus in my garden,
>started
>with roots from a nursery. There is no question that it is better to start
>with
>year old roots than to plant seeds. Oddly, there are always some stalks that
>grow
>up too straggly to be cut for dinner. Left uncut, those plants develop little
>round seeds.
>
>People who wish to grow their own strawberries usually buy strawberry plants.
>Once
>those things take root they start to sending out rhizomes to create new
>plants.
>Yet, the strawberry plant produces seeds. Farmers and home gardeners rarely
>buy
>seed to start their plants, preferring to buy established plants and
>transplanting
>them.
>
>Similarly, there is a tremendous market for raspberry canes. It is the
>quickest
>and easiest way to establish enough plants to get a decent crop. For some
>reason,
>raspberries also produce their own seed.
>
>For some reason, who would have us believe that asparagus does not go to
>seed, but
>I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, once again,
>you
>are wrong.


No, I am 100% correct. You simply possess ZERO knowlege about SEX and most
everything else... and I mean that in all sincerity. You are about the most
ignorant poster ever to grace rfc... only a few webtv'ers are dumber than you.

When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.
People who insist on growing asparagus from seed (cheap *******s - male crowns
cost much more than a packet of seed) need to wait and watch to determine the
sex of each crown produced. Then they need to separate the crowns, usually
discarding the female crowns (unless one is in the asparagus seed business).
I'm sure by now all normal folks get it... but obviously not you, Dave Smith,
you midget IQ ****wit. Asparagus spears don't go to seed, nor do the crowns
that produce them, they can't... male crowns have no ovarys you Dave *dumber
than shit* Smith *******!


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>Dave Smith
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>>
>> >PENMART01 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Asparagus don't go to seed...
>> >
>> >Asparagus doesn't go to seed??? Perhaps you should explain that to >the

>people
>> who seed asparagus seed, or to the suckers who bought > it and started

>their
>> asparagus plants.
>>
>> Asparagus does not go to seed, ie. bolt, as does lettuce, cabbage, basil,

>etc.
>> Asparagus is most typically grown from "crowns". Asparagus can be grown

>from
>> seed but is hardly worth the effort as the results are typically dismal,

>because
>> the seeds first need to produce crowns, and then their sex must be

>determined.
>> In any event asparagus spears (the edible portion) does not go to
>> seed. Asparagus spears are produced only from male plants and male plants

>do
>> not produce seed...try to ingest that.

>
>Just where the hell do you think they get the seeds that, as you admit, can
>be
>planted? I am quite aware of the fact that most people who grow their own
>asparagus start with roots. The roots they plant come from nurseries who
>started
>them from seed.
>
>Asparagus grows wild around here. I have grown asparagus in my garden,
>started
>with roots from a nursery. There is no question that it is better to start
>with
>year old roots than to plant seeds. Oddly, there are always some stalks that
>grow
>up too straggly to be cut for dinner. Left uncut, those plants develop little
>round seeds.
>
>People who wish to grow their own strawberries usually buy strawberry plants.
>Once
>those things take root they start to sending out rhizomes to create new
>plants.
>Yet, the strawberry plant produces seeds. Farmers and home gardeners rarely
>buy
>seed to start their plants, preferring to buy established plants and
>transplanting
>them.
>
>Similarly, there is a tremendous market for raspberry canes. It is the
>quickest
>and easiest way to establish enough plants to get a decent crop. For some
>reason,
>raspberries also produce their own seed.
>
>For some reason, who would have us believe that asparagus does not go to
>seed, but
>I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, once again,
>you
>are wrong.


No, I am 100% correct. You simply possess ZERO knowlege about SEX and most
everything else... and I mean that in all sincerity. You are about the most
ignorant poster ever to grace rfc... only a few webtv'ers are dumber than you.

When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.
People who insist on growing asparagus from seed (cheap *******s - male crowns
cost much more than a packet of seed) need to wait and watch to determine the
sex of each crown produced. Then they need to separate the crowns, usually
discarding the female crowns (unless one is in the asparagus seed business).
I'm sure by now all normal folks get it... but obviously not you, Dave Smith,
you midget IQ ****wit. Asparagus spears don't go to seed, nor do the crowns
that produce them, they can't... male crowns have no ovarys you Dave *dumber
than shit* Smith *******!


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>notbob writes:
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>>pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
>> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
>> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
>> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
>> the label, the more crap that went in.

>
>Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
>entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
>plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
>line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
>is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
>put a "Krapt" label on it.


All the name brands (Green Giant, Del Monte, White Rose, etc,) are essentially
of equal quality, even the store brands, as those are exactly the same, made on
the same line, but with the store brand label. But the *generics* are of
significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the
generics have the same nutritional value, but the appearance and texture is of
lesser quality.

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>notbob writes:
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>>pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
>> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
>> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
>> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
>> the label, the more crap that went in.

>
>Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
>entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
>plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
>line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
>is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
>put a "Krapt" label on it.


All the name brands (Green Giant, Del Monte, White Rose, etc,) are essentially
of equal quality, even the store brands, as those are exactly the same, made on
the same line, but with the store brand label. But the *generics* are of
significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the
generics have the same nutritional value, but the appearance and texture is of
lesser quality.

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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the


I've already stated this. My point is, when a line is running, they don't
change anything but the label. I suppose a processor could run some good
crops through a plant for a hi-q label, then go out and buy some crappola
crops and run them through the same line for a lesser label, but there would
not be "more crap" in the substandard brand. The line will inspect, clean,
grade, chop, etc, low-q produce just as good as it does the hi-q stuff.
It's not like someone says, "Hey, we're running Dirtbag Beets, turn off a
couple washers!" or "Kinda Krapy Corn is running today, you can smoke on the
line and scratch your butt". If the processing plant sucks and lets crap
through, all its output will suck, no matter the crop-q or label level (WETF
that is!).

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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the


I've already stated this. My point is, when a line is running, they don't
change anything but the label. I suppose a processor could run some good
crops through a plant for a hi-q label, then go out and buy some crappola
crops and run them through the same line for a lesser label, but there would
not be "more crap" in the substandard brand. The line will inspect, clean,
grade, chop, etc, low-q produce just as good as it does the hi-q stuff.
It's not like someone says, "Hey, we're running Dirtbag Beets, turn off a
couple washers!" or "Kinda Krapy Corn is running today, you can smoke on the
line and scratch your butt". If the processing plant sucks and lets crap
through, all its output will suck, no matter the crop-q or label level (WETF
that is!).

nb
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PENMART01 wrote:


> When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
> crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
> female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
> spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.
> People who insist on growing asparagus from seed (cheap *******s - male crowns
> cost much more than a packet of seed) need to wait and watch to determine the
> sex of each crown produced. Then they need to separate the crowns, usually
> discarding the female crowns (unless one is in the asparagus seed business).


From http://www.extension.umn.edu/distrib...re/DG1861.html we have (in part):

"Asparagus is a dioecious (dye-EE-shus) plant, meaning that there are both male and female plants. Generally, females
produce larger spears than males, but the males produce greater numbers of smaller diameter spears. Only female plants
produce berries. Breeding work is in progress worldwide to produce high yielding all male asparagus lines. The main
benefit from an all-male hybrid is that it doesn't produce seed, which can later germinate and create a significant weed
problem. Only a few varieties of asparagus are available for commercial plantings. Until recently, varieties have been
various strains of the Washington type, which are comprised of both male and female plants. Several of the all-male
hybrids recently developed in New Jersey hold promise for high yields and increased rust resistance tolerance to fusarium."

Note especially the second sentence.

All asparagus growth (both male and female) starts out as "spears" and all (both male and
female) will "leaf" out into feathery fronds if not picked. Any spear left on the plant long
enough will have the tip begin to loosen as this begins. This loosening is perhaps what
the OP refered to as "going to seed". It is more "going to leaf".




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PENMART01 wrote:


> When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
> crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
> female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
> spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.
> People who insist on growing asparagus from seed (cheap *******s - male crowns
> cost much more than a packet of seed) need to wait and watch to determine the
> sex of each crown produced. Then they need to separate the crowns, usually
> discarding the female crowns (unless one is in the asparagus seed business).


From http://www.extension.umn.edu/distrib...re/DG1861.html we have (in part):

"Asparagus is a dioecious (dye-EE-shus) plant, meaning that there are both male and female plants. Generally, females
produce larger spears than males, but the males produce greater numbers of smaller diameter spears. Only female plants
produce berries. Breeding work is in progress worldwide to produce high yielding all male asparagus lines. The main
benefit from an all-male hybrid is that it doesn't produce seed, which can later germinate and create a significant weed
problem. Only a few varieties of asparagus are available for commercial plantings. Until recently, varieties have been
various strains of the Washington type, which are comprised of both male and female plants. Several of the all-male
hybrids recently developed in New Jersey hold promise for high yields and increased rust resistance tolerance to fusarium."

Note especially the second sentence.

All asparagus growth (both male and female) starts out as "spears" and all (both male and
female) will "leaf" out into feathery fronds if not picked. Any spear left on the plant long
enough will have the tip begin to loosen as this begins. This loosening is perhaps what
the OP refered to as "going to seed". It is more "going to leaf".


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>otbob

> wrote:
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>>[*generics*] significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are

used...
>
>I've already stated this.


No you didn't. I was speaking of *generics*. You were speaking of name
brands. Big difference.

And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.


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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.


I wouldn't lower myself to quoting you, you pestilent pustule of pond scum.

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>notbob farts:
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>On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:
>
>> And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.

>
>I wouldn't lower myself to quoting you


Um, you just did, AGAIN... idiot.


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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> Um, you just did, AGAIN... idiot.


Go play with your little dictionary and look up quote, moron.

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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> Um, you just did, AGAIN... idiot.


Go play with your little dictionary and look up quote, moron.

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PENMART01 wrote:

>
> >seed, but
> >I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, > once again,

> you are wrong.
>
> No, I am 100% correct. You simply possess ZERO knowlege about SEX and most
> everything else... and I mean that in all sincerity. You are about the most
> ignorant poster ever to grace rfc... only a few webtv'ers are dumber than you.
>
> When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
> crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
> female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
> spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.


Nice try, but that is not true. Female plants do produce spears. You get more
spears from the male plants than you do from female plants. Your claim that
asparagus does not go to seed is false, and your argument about the use of seeds
does little to support the misinformation that you are handing out.



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PENMART01 wrote:

>
> >seed, but
> >I have seen enough asparagus that has gone to seed to know that, > once again,

> you are wrong.
>
> No, I am 100% correct. You simply possess ZERO knowlege about SEX and most
> everything else... and I mean that in all sincerity. You are about the most
> ignorant poster ever to grace rfc... only a few webtv'ers are dumber than you.
>
> When asparagus seed is planted it takes one year for the seed to produce
> crowns. About half the crowns produced are male and half are female. The
> female crowns only, produce seed. The male crowns only, produce asparagus
> spears... asparagus spears are truly male, gals... they have no female parts.


Nice try, but that is not true. Female plants do produce spears. You get more
spears from the male plants than you do from female plants. Your claim that
asparagus does not go to seed is false, and your argument about the use of seeds
does little to support the misinformation that you are handing out.



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I know this is a dead thread, but I saw this guy on FoodTV over the
weekend say he would take one leaf from a head of cabbage and pay
for it by the pound that way.

I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
with one leaf of cabbage?

nancy
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I know this is a dead thread, but I saw this guy on FoodTV over the
weekend say he would take one leaf from a head of cabbage and pay
for it by the pound that way.

I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
with one leaf of cabbage?

nancy
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Nancy Young wrote:

> I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> with one leaf of cabbage?



Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge. I love stir fries
with several different vegetables-- onion, carrot, cabbage, mushrooms,
etc. Now imagine the quantities you'd need of each to make a single
portion. Living alone means wrapping a lot in plastic and freezing.
Those work, but they're still never as good as fresh.


No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
mind that it would be nice if I could.


--Lia

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Nancy Young wrote:

> I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> with one leaf of cabbage?



Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge. I love stir fries
with several different vegetables-- onion, carrot, cabbage, mushrooms,
etc. Now imagine the quantities you'd need of each to make a single
portion. Living alone means wrapping a lot in plastic and freezing.
Those work, but they're still never as good as fresh.


No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
mind that it would be nice if I could.


--Lia



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In article <h%2Xc.180493$8_6.152908@attbi_s04>,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> > with one leaf of cabbage?

>
>
> Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
> cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
> household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
> portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge. I love stir fries
> with several different vegetables-- onion, carrot, cabbage, mushrooms,
> etc. Now imagine the quantities you'd need of each to make a single
> portion. Living alone means wrapping a lot in plastic and freezing.
> Those work, but they're still never as good as fresh.
>
>
> No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
> mind that it would be nice if I could.
>
>
> --Lia
>


If they are selling by weight, (and cabbage usually is sold by weight),
I don't see why you can't. :-)

I've found tho' that cabbage keeps for a LONG time in the refrigerator!
Of all the veggies I buy, it seems to last the longest. I also do a lot
of stir fry's and I prefer savoy cabbage.

K.

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In article <h%2Xc.180493$8_6.152908@attbi_s04>,
Julia Altshuler > wrote:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> > with one leaf of cabbage?

>
>
> Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
> cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
> household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
> portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge. I love stir fries
> with several different vegetables-- onion, carrot, cabbage, mushrooms,
> etc. Now imagine the quantities you'd need of each to make a single
> portion. Living alone means wrapping a lot in plastic and freezing.
> Those work, but they're still never as good as fresh.
>
>
> No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
> mind that it would be nice if I could.
>
>
> --Lia
>


If they are selling by weight, (and cabbage usually is sold by weight),
I don't see why you can't. :-)

I've found tho' that cabbage keeps for a LONG time in the refrigerator!
Of all the veggies I buy, it seems to last the longest. I also do a lot
of stir fry's and I prefer savoy cabbage.

K.

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Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> > with one leaf of cabbage?

>
> Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
> cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
> household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
> portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge.


Hey, I know that. I never get through a whole cabbage. That is the
problem with buying all the separate ingredients you would want for
a salad. Geez, talk about rotting produce, that's what the salad
bar is good for, I can get 'some' of certain ingredients, not a whole
bunch I will wind up throwing out.

But even I can get through more than ONE leaf of cabbage. Especially
as I usually throw out the outer leaves, they're scruffy.

> No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
> mind that it would be nice if I could.


Hey, go for it. (laugh) Wonder what the produce manager will think
of that. Report back.

nancy
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
> > with one leaf of cabbage?

>
> Leaving aside the business of how one would buy a single leaf of
> cabbage, there are plenty of uses for one. I live in a 2-person
> household and have in the past lived by myself. Buying small enough
> portions to cook fresh at each meal is a challenge.


Hey, I know that. I never get through a whole cabbage. That is the
problem with buying all the separate ingredients you would want for
a salad. Geez, talk about rotting produce, that's what the salad
bar is good for, I can get 'some' of certain ingredients, not a whole
bunch I will wind up throwing out.

But even I can get through more than ONE leaf of cabbage. Especially
as I usually throw out the outer leaves, they're scruffy.

> No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
> mind that it would be nice if I could.


Hey, go for it. (laugh) Wonder what the produce manager will think
of that. Report back.

nancy
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Nancy Young wrote:

>>No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
>>mind that it would be nice if I could.

>
>
> Hey, go for it. (laugh) Wonder what the produce manager will think
> of that. Report back.


Nah, I've said over and over that I LIKE my supermarket and drive an
extra mile out of my way to go to that one, skipping the closer two. I
can't risk getting thrown out.

--Lia



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Nancy Young wrote:

>>No, I never bought a single leaf of cabbage, but it always crossed my
>>mind that it would be nice if I could.

>
>
> Hey, go for it. (laugh) Wonder what the produce manager will think
> of that. Report back.


Nah, I've said over and over that I LIKE my supermarket and drive an
extra mile out of my way to go to that one, skipping the closer two. I
can't risk getting thrown out.

--Lia

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Agnes7777 wrote:
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> >From: "Tank"
> >
> >This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> >stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> >corn displays. This is for those people who
> >feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> >the store. Are they placed there because the
> >stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> >peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> >to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> >it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> >the draw with your produce, as the human race
> >has for thousands of years?
> >
> >Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >
> >--
> >Tank

>
> Nope.
>
> I've always seen folks pull back husks to check quality, but this was the first
> year I ever saw folks actually shucking their corn at the grocery store. There
> was no trash can. We had to wait to reach the corn bin because the pair
> (father and daughter) stood directly in front of it and took about 10 minutes
> to shuck 2 dozen ears, tossing the shucks and silk and stems on the floor and
> back into the pile of ears.
>
> When we asked the produce dept. guy what was up with those folks shucking their
> corn in the grocery store, he said it was a regional thing or something.
>
> It would have been less annoying if there'd been a trash can around...


I'm thinking it was pure cheapness - didn't want to pay for
the husks - I'm assuming it was being sold by weight. If it
was being sold by ear then there's no excuse. The produce
people should have said something to them. I'm cheap as the
next guy but I would draw the line at shucking the corn in
the store. I do sometimes pull off really big, nasty, unusable
outer leaves from heads of cabbage that haven't been too well
"trimmed" - don't want to pay for that! But corn? I would leave
the husks on if for no other reason that to protect the kernels
until I got it home to cook it.

Kate

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“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
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Agnes7777 wrote:
>
> >From: "Tank"
> >
> >This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> >stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> >corn displays. This is for those people who
> >feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> >the store. Are they placed there because the
> >stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> >peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> >to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> >it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> >the draw with your produce, as the human race
> >has for thousands of years?
> >
> >Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >
> >--
> >Tank

>
> Nope.
>
> I've always seen folks pull back husks to check quality, but this was the first
> year I ever saw folks actually shucking their corn at the grocery store. There
> was no trash can. We had to wait to reach the corn bin because the pair
> (father and daughter) stood directly in front of it and took about 10 minutes
> to shuck 2 dozen ears, tossing the shucks and silk and stems on the floor and
> back into the pile of ears.
>
> When we asked the produce dept. guy what was up with those folks shucking their
> corn in the grocery store, he said it was a regional thing or something.
>
> It would have been less annoying if there'd been a trash can around...


I'm thinking it was pure cheapness - didn't want to pay for
the husks - I'm assuming it was being sold by weight. If it
was being sold by ear then there's no excuse. The produce
people should have said something to them. I'm cheap as the
next guy but I would draw the line at shucking the corn in
the store. I do sometimes pull off really big, nasty, unusable
outer leaves from heads of cabbage that haven't been too well
"trimmed" - don't want to pay for that! But corn? I would leave
the husks on if for no other reason that to protect the kernels
until I got it home to cook it.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

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Steve Calvin wrote:
>
> notbob wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Now, I buy bacon based on price. With bacon running around $6 lb, I won't
> > buy unless it's on sale in the $3-4 range. So, when Bar S has a sale on
> > bacon, like they did last week, I have no qualms whatsoever about going
> > through half a dozen or more packages, ripping flaps like crazy till I find
> > a good lb of bacon. Sure, I leave a trail of violated and strewn bacon
> > packages but that's just too damn bad. If they want the packages to stay
> > pristine, they'll remove the removable flaps so I don't have to. I guess
> > they figure most folks, like those who will not pick and choose in produce,
> > are afraid to rip those flaps off. Sorry Charlie. I be rippin'!
> >
> > nb

>
> I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> slice it to my specs. or "whack" me off a hunk and I'll slice it when
> I get home. Cost more? Yup. Worth it? Absolutely.


I've been forced by the higher costs to buy packaged bacon.
The good slab bacon in the deli is now over $4 a pound. I wait
for sales and then buy say 2 lbs. for $5 of the cheaper packaged
bacon. The big complaint I have about that stuff is that it is
sliced way too thin. That's why I always used to buy the deli
bacon as it was sliced thick. Also, it had much less water
injected into it. Anyway, those viewing flaps are a major
pain in the but. I do the same thing as nb. I like my bacon
with a goodly amount of meat on it so I ransack the whole display
looking for acceptable amounts of meat. Looks like a tornade
hit when I'm done. Why can't they just have the windows without
the stupid flaps? I mean, they already have a flapless window
on the front of the package so why the stupid flaps that you
have to tear open in the back? Makes no sense at all.

Kate

--
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“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

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Steve Calvin wrote:
>
> notbob wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Now, I buy bacon based on price. With bacon running around $6 lb, I won't
> > buy unless it's on sale in the $3-4 range. So, when Bar S has a sale on
> > bacon, like they did last week, I have no qualms whatsoever about going
> > through half a dozen or more packages, ripping flaps like crazy till I find
> > a good lb of bacon. Sure, I leave a trail of violated and strewn bacon
> > packages but that's just too damn bad. If they want the packages to stay
> > pristine, they'll remove the removable flaps so I don't have to. I guess
> > they figure most folks, like those who will not pick and choose in produce,
> > are afraid to rip those flaps off. Sorry Charlie. I be rippin'!
> >
> > nb

>
> I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> slice it to my specs. or "whack" me off a hunk and I'll slice it when
> I get home. Cost more? Yup. Worth it? Absolutely.


I've been forced by the higher costs to buy packaged bacon.
The good slab bacon in the deli is now over $4 a pound. I wait
for sales and then buy say 2 lbs. for $5 of the cheaper packaged
bacon. The big complaint I have about that stuff is that it is
sliced way too thin. That's why I always used to buy the deli
bacon as it was sliced thick. Also, it had much less water
injected into it. Anyway, those viewing flaps are a major
pain in the but. I do the same thing as nb. I like my bacon
with a goodly amount of meat on it so I ransack the whole display
looking for acceptable amounts of meat. Looks like a tornade
hit when I'm done. Why can't they just have the windows without
the stupid flaps? I mean, they already have a flapless window
on the front of the package so why the stupid flaps that you
have to tear open in the back? Makes no sense at all.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
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>Nancy Young wrote:
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>I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
>with one leaf of cabbage?


Well... for some of us a mere fig leaf won't quite cover it.


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>Nancy Young wrote:
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>I almost feel as if I made that up, because what does someone need
>with one leaf of cabbage?


Well... for some of us a mere fig leaf won't quite cover it.


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Our pal Kate Connally > wrote:
> Agnes7777 wrote:


<snip>

> > When we asked the produce dept. guy what was up with those folks shucking

> their
> > corn in the grocery store, he said it was a regional thing or something.
> >
> > It would have been less annoying if there'd been a trash can around...

>
> I'm thinking it was pure cheapness - didn't want to pay for
> the husks - I'm assuming it was being sold by weight.


Heh, reminds me of an uncle who would pull out his pocket knife and
cut off the stalks from asparagus before taking it to checkout...


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Our pal Kate Connally > wrote:
> Agnes7777 wrote:


<snip>

> > When we asked the produce dept. guy what was up with those folks shucking

> their
> > corn in the grocery store, he said it was a regional thing or something.
> >
> > It would have been less annoying if there'd been a trash can around...

>
> I'm thinking it was pure cheapness - didn't want to pay for
> the husks - I'm assuming it was being sold by weight.


Heh, reminds me of an uncle who would pull out his pocket knife and
cut off the stalks from asparagus before taking it to the check out...


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Our pal Kate Connally > wrote:
> Agnes7777 wrote:


<snip>

> > When we asked the produce dept. guy what was up with those folks shucking

> their
> > corn in the grocery store, he said it was a regional thing or something.
> >
> > It would have been less annoying if there'd been a trash can around...

>
> I'm thinking it was pure cheapness - didn't want to pay for
> the husks - I'm assuming it was being sold by weight.


Heh, reminds me of an uncle who would pull out his pocket knife and
cut off the stalks from asparagus before taking it to the check out...


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