"notbob" wrote:
> PENMART01 wrote:
>
> > I've never seen the Birdseye name on any canned foods... don't they only
do
> > frozen?
>
> I'm sure you are correct. I think I meant Green Giant.

When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
the label, the more crap that went in.

It's no different now. However I am VERY surprised to pick up a package of
high end name brand veggies and find it full of mush and stems. I don't pay
top dollar for crap. That's one of the reasons I can and freeze.

<I'll determine the quality of my own food, thanks very much>

On 2004-08-24, pennyaline > wrote:
>
> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
> the label, the more crap that went in.

Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
put a "Krapt" label on it.

nb

>notbob writes:
>
>>pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
>> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
>> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
>> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
>> the label, the more crap that went in.
>
>Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
>entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
>plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
>line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
>is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
>put a "Krapt" label on it.

All the name brands (Green Giant, Del Monte, White Rose, etc,) are essentially
of equal quality, even the store brands, as those are exactly the same, made on
the same line, but with the store brand label. But the *generics* are of
significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the
generics have the same nutritional value, but the appearance and texture is of
lesser quality.

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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the

I've already stated this. My point is, when a line is running, they don't
change anything but the label. I suppose a processor could run some good
crops through a plant for a hi-q label, then go out and buy some crappola
crops and run them through the same line for a lesser label, but there would
not be "more crap" in the substandard brand. The line will inspect, clean,
grade, chop, etc, low-q produce just as good as it does the hi-q stuff.
It's not like someone says, "Hey, we're running Dirtbag Beets, turn off a
couple washers!" or "Kinda Krapy Corn is running today, you can smoke on the
line and scratch your butt". If the processing plant sucks and lets crap
through, all its output will suck, no matter the crop-q or label level (WETF
that is!).

nb

>otbob

> wrote:
>>
>>[*generics*] significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are
used...
>
>I've already stated this.

No you didn't. I was speaking of *generics*. You were speaking of name
brands. Big difference.

And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.


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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.

I wouldn't lower myself to quoting you, you pestilent pustule of pond scum.

nb

>notbob farts:
>
>On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:
>
>> And next time you quote me quote me correctly, you smarmy douche bag.
>
>I wouldn't lower myself to quoting you

Um, you just did, AGAIN... idiot.


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On 2004-08-25, PENMART01 > wrote:

> significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the

I've already stated this. My point is, when a line is running, they don't
change anything but the label. I suppose a processor could run some good
crops through a plant for a hi-q label, then go out and buy some crappola
crops and run them through the same line for a lesser label, but there would
not be "more crap" in the substandard brand. The line will inspect, clean,
grade, chop, etc, low-q produce just as good as it does the hi-q stuff.
It's not like someone says, "Hey, we're running Dirtbag Beets, turn off a
couple washers!" or "Kinda Krapy Corn is running today, you can smoke on the
line and scratch your butt". If the processing plant sucks and lets crap
through, all its output will suck, no matter the crop-q or label level (WETF
that is!).

nb

>notbob writes:
>
>>pennyaline wrote:
>>
>> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
>> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
>> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
>> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
>> the label, the more crap that went in.
>
>Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
>entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
>plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
>line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
>is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
>put a "Krapt" label on it.

All the name brands (Green Giant, Del Monte, White Rose, etc,) are essentially
of equal quality, even the store brands, as those are exactly the same, made on
the same line, but with the store brand label. But the *generics* are of
significantly lesser quality, that's where the poorer crops are used... the
generics have the same nutritional value, but the appearance and texture is of
lesser quality.

---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

On 2004-08-24, pennyaline > wrote:
>
> When I was young, a local cannery packed produce for the Blue Boy label as
> well as generic labels. We also had a processing plant that manufactured
> foods for Ocean Spray, Kraft, Heinz, and many generic labels. I had friends
> who worked in both plants who told me what I had long suspected: the lower
> the label, the more crap that went in.

Are you saying one plant was less quality conscious than the other? That's
entirely possible. Or are you saying 'lower' label brands from the same
plant have 'more crap'? If you mean the later, it's just not true. Once a
line is set up, it isn't changed for different brands. The only difference
is the label. The line producing Kraft is going to be no different when they
put a "Krapt" label on it.

nb