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Tank
 
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This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
corn displays. This is for those people who
feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
the store. Are they placed there because the
stores are knuckling under to rude people who
peel back the ears to check them? What happened
to being able to judge an ear without destroying
it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
the draw with your produce, as the human race
has for thousands of years?

Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?

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Tank

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"Tank" > wrote in message
...
> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> the store. Are they placed there because the
> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> has for thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>
> --
> Tank
>
> This Space To Let.
>
>


My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to pick
and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you can
choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman picking
the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart. I
thanked her for leaving all the unripe/mushed berries for the rest of us and
got a dirty look in return. BTW humans have most certainly not taken the
luck of the draw with produce for thousands of years - that's a really
strange notion on your part!


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"Tank" > wrote in message
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> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> the store. Are they placed there because the
> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> has for thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>
> --
> Tank
>
> This Space To Let.
>
>


My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to pick
and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you can
choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman picking
the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart. I
thanked her for leaving all the unripe/mushed berries for the rest of us and
got a dirty look in return. BTW humans have most certainly not taken the
luck of the draw with produce for thousands of years - that's a really
strange notion on your part!


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
r.com...
> "Tank" > wrote in message
> ...
> > This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> > stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> > corn displays. This is for those people who
> > feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> > the store. Are they placed there because the
> > stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> > peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> > to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> > it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> > the draw with your produce, as the human race
> > has for thousands of years?
> >
> > Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >
> > --
> > Tank
> >
> > This Space To Let.
> >
> >

>
> My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to

pick
> and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you can
> choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman

picking
> the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart.


so pick out your own quart of unsquished, ripe berries. all is fair in
love, war, and the produce dept <g>

randy


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
r.com...
> "Tank" > wrote in message
> ...
> > This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> > stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> > corn displays. This is for those people who
> > feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> > the store. Are they placed there because the
> > stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> > peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> > to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> > it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> > the draw with your produce, as the human race
> > has for thousands of years?
> >
> > Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >
> > --
> > Tank
> >
> > This Space To Let.
> >
> >

>
> My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to

pick
> and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you can
> choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman

picking
> the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart.


so pick out your own quart of unsquished, ripe berries. all is fair in
love, war, and the produce dept <g>

randy




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Tank wrote:
> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> the store. Are they placed there because the
> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> has for thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?



I can't speak for the whole of humanity, but I like it. I like being
able to check the kernels in the store. In every crop, there are bound
to be some ears that are bug eaten or don't have the kernels fully grown
in. Rather than get them home and be disappointed there, why not know
what I'm buying before I buy it? I hardly think it's rude to want to
know the quality of the produce. With the garbage can right there, I
can accomplish the task of shucking in only a few minutes and feel neat
and clean about it. Perhaps there is a way to judge an ear without
shucking it, but since shucking doesn't destroy it either way, I can't
see where doing so is rude. As for this being a new trend, I can't
remember a time when supermarkets DIDN'T place the can right there for
the customer's convenience.


There are stores that prepackage everything. I try not to shop at
those. I far prefer being able to choose everything from my apples,
corn, peppers to zucchini so I shop at the supermarket that lets me do
that. And before you accuse me of bruising and ruining everything I
touch, I don't. I'm gentle with the produce. Apparently everyone else
is too because the produce is generally in excellent shape with only a
few exceptions.


--Lia

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No no no! These are the same people who insist on eating a bunch of
grapes before buying, poking holes in melons, and sqeezing the tomatoes
till they are mush. We pay for this! If you can't figure out what is
best, ask for help. The next step, which I expect soon, will be all
produce packaged in plastic and not be able to be examined till we've
bought it and gotten it home. I don't want that do you?

xrongor wrote:
> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> r.com...
>
>>"Tank" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>>>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>>>corn displays. This is for those people who
>>>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>>>the store. Are they placed there because the
>>>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>>>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>>>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>>>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
>>>the draw with your produce, as the human race
>>>has for thousands of years?
>>>
>>>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Tank
>>>
>>>This Space To Let.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to

>
> pick
>
>>and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you can
>>choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman

>
> picking
>
>>the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart.

>
>
> so pick out your own quart of unsquished, ripe berries. all is fair in
> love, war, and the produce dept <g>
>
> randy
>
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Julia Altshuler wrote:

>
> what I'm buying before I buy it? I hardly think it's rude to want to
> know the quality of the produce. With the garbage can right there, I
> can accomplish the task of shucking in only a few minutes and feel neat
> and clean about it. Perhaps there is a way to judge an ear without
> shucking it, but since shucking doesn't destroy it either way, I can't
> see where doing so is rude.


Actually, it does have a negative effect on the corn. The husk keeps the
corn moist and fresh. I always grill corn on the cob. Once it has been
partially shucked it's useless to me. I can't tell you how many times I
have watched people ripping open corn cobs and rejecting cobs that looked
good to me, but which are now ruined for grilling.


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"Tank" > wrote in message
...
> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> the store. Are they placed there because the
> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> has for thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>
> --
> Tank
>
> This Space To Let.




First, I am not sure where you got the idea of the human race taking the
luck of the draw with produce for "thousands of years". Silly notion, that.
Second, why should I pay for inferior produce when I can choose the best
available? I've never seen anyone completely shuck an ear of corn when
checking it. At most they pull back one section, leaving it intact at the
base. How is this "destroying" the corn? The answer: it isn't.
I truly think it is ridiculous to expect me or anyone to blindly purchase
produce (or anything else) without knowing the quality beforehand. I do and
will continue to inspect corn before I pay my hard earned money to buy it. I
also choose the best possible melon, tomatoes, oranges, etc. And no, I don't
"destroy" any of them in the process. In fact, I've seen more than one
employee of the produce department do more damage to the produce than any
customers I've observed. Dumping out cases of fragile produce, such as
peahes and nectarines is one practice that comes to mind.
Mind you, "pretty" is what the general public looks for in produce, and
while some can be beautiful, there's no guarantee it will be quality in
terms of taste. Pretty is not what I am looking for.
IMO, you should be more concerned with people who are so consistently
willing to settle for subpar food, service, prices, etc that the rest of us
have to suffer for it. People have gotten so used to being ripped off, they
see it as normal. If I am paying for what I'm getting, then I don't see it
as unreasonable to expect the best possible in terms of quality. Why would
you *not* want corn that tastes good, has all of it's kernels developed, and
is fresh and without corn borers buried throughout? Why would you *not* want
a tomato that tastes like a tomato instead of cardboard? Or an orange that
is juicy and sweet as opposed to dry and sour? Or a watermelon that is crisp
and juicy rather than grainy/mushy? It's just silly.

kimberly


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"Tank" > wrote in message
...
> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> the store. Are they placed there because the
> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> has for thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>
> --
> Tank
>
> This Space To Let.




First, I am not sure where you got the idea of the human race taking the
luck of the draw with produce for "thousands of years". Silly notion, that.
Second, why should I pay for inferior produce when I can choose the best
available? I've never seen anyone completely shuck an ear of corn when
checking it. At most they pull back one section, leaving it intact at the
base. How is this "destroying" the corn? The answer: it isn't.
I truly think it is ridiculous to expect me or anyone to blindly purchase
produce (or anything else) without knowing the quality beforehand. I do and
will continue to inspect corn before I pay my hard earned money to buy it. I
also choose the best possible melon, tomatoes, oranges, etc. And no, I don't
"destroy" any of them in the process. In fact, I've seen more than one
employee of the produce department do more damage to the produce than any
customers I've observed. Dumping out cases of fragile produce, such as
peahes and nectarines is one practice that comes to mind.
Mind you, "pretty" is what the general public looks for in produce, and
while some can be beautiful, there's no guarantee it will be quality in
terms of taste. Pretty is not what I am looking for.
IMO, you should be more concerned with people who are so consistently
willing to settle for subpar food, service, prices, etc that the rest of us
have to suffer for it. People have gotten so used to being ripped off, they
see it as normal. If I am paying for what I'm getting, then I don't see it
as unreasonable to expect the best possible in terms of quality. Why would
you *not* want corn that tastes good, has all of it's kernels developed, and
is fresh and without corn borers buried throughout? Why would you *not* want
a tomato that tastes like a tomato instead of cardboard? Or an orange that
is juicy and sweet as opposed to dry and sour? Or a watermelon that is crisp
and juicy rather than grainy/mushy? It's just silly.

kimberly


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On 2004-08-23, Peter Aitken > wrote:

> the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart. I
> thanked her for leaving all the unripe/mushed berries for the rest of us and


Why do you even care? Why are you taking it personally? It's not like
she's doing it to personally inconvenience you and it's not like you are
being forced to purchase her rejects. And, if they truly are rejects, why
should she have to buy them? Just because you feel restrained from picking
and choosing doesn't mean everyone else has to. Or, is that what really
bothers you, that someone else chooses to exercise a little more freedom
than you feel comfortable with?

Now myself, I couldn't care less if someone wants to take the time to
rearrange a bunch of berries. Besides, if the berries were of such poor
quality and uniformity they require rearranging, I'd be looking elsewhere.

These little produce etiquette discussions always crack me up. I'm sure
this one is going to be just as entertaining.

nb
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> >
> > what I'm buying before I buy it? I hardly think it's rude to want to
> > know the quality of the produce. With the garbage can right there, I
> > can accomplish the task of shucking in only a few minutes and feel neat
> > and clean about it. Perhaps there is a way to judge an ear without
> > shucking it, but since shucking doesn't destroy it either way, I can't
> > see where doing so is rude.

>
> Actually, it does have a negative effect on the corn. The husk keeps the
> corn moist and fresh. I always grill corn on the cob. Once it has been
> partially shucked it's useless to me. I can't tell you how many times I
> have watched people ripping open corn cobs and rejecting cobs that looked
> good to me, but which are now ruined for grilling.



They are not useless for grilling. In fact, I deliberately partially shuck
corn when I grill it because I like the carmelization that occurs, and the
flavor it imparts. You may not prefer it that way, and you can choose to buy
corn that is unshucked, just like anyone else can. I've yet to see a corn
display where all of the corn has been shucked, partially or no, unless the
store itself did it (which, by the way, is a method of hiding the age of the
corn. They don't want you to see the blackened silk and dried husks.).
Having part of the husk removed will not do any significant drying of the
corn before the age of the corn does it's own damage, so it's a moot point.
Especially since, as I mentioned previously, most people leave it attached,
so if you're that concerned about drying, simply pull it back into place.

kimberly
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
> >
> > what I'm buying before I buy it? I hardly think it's rude to want to
> > know the quality of the produce. With the garbage can right there, I
> > can accomplish the task of shucking in only a few minutes and feel neat
> > and clean about it. Perhaps there is a way to judge an ear without
> > shucking it, but since shucking doesn't destroy it either way, I can't
> > see where doing so is rude.

>
> Actually, it does have a negative effect on the corn. The husk keeps the
> corn moist and fresh. I always grill corn on the cob. Once it has been
> partially shucked it's useless to me. I can't tell you how many times I
> have watched people ripping open corn cobs and rejecting cobs that looked
> good to me, but which are now ruined for grilling.



They are not useless for grilling. In fact, I deliberately partially shuck
corn when I grill it because I like the carmelization that occurs, and the
flavor it imparts. You may not prefer it that way, and you can choose to buy
corn that is unshucked, just like anyone else can. I've yet to see a corn
display where all of the corn has been shucked, partially or no, unless the
store itself did it (which, by the way, is a method of hiding the age of the
corn. They don't want you to see the blackened silk and dried husks.).
Having part of the husk removed will not do any significant drying of the
corn before the age of the corn does it's own damage, so it's a moot point.
Especially since, as I mentioned previously, most people leave it attached,
so if you're that concerned about drying, simply pull it back into place.

kimberly
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>"Tank" says:
>
>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>corn displays. This is for those people who
>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>the store. Are they placed there because the
>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
>the draw with your produce, as the human race
>has for thousands of years?
>
>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?


You're just very, very young, not too smart and a bit of a smarmy wiseass. Not
long ago when there were no stupidmarkets, only stand alone neighborhood
greengrocers... and to ensure that local patrons returned the greengrocer would
peel back each ear of corn to be sure it was perfect before bagging it for the
patron. Do you really think folks are peeling back ears of corn at the
stupidmarket for entertainment? Folks are spending their time and effort to
ensure what they spend their hard earned money on is not trash. Actually the
stupidmarkets encourage the customers to check their own corn, saves them a
salary, and even were they to hire someone to husk corn do you really think the
store would instruct that person to sneak in the bad ones (probably how you
think, smarmy), of course not... don't be a moron you young punk... so how does
it feel to have your husks stripped away to show your worth?


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>"Tank" says:
>
>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>corn displays. This is for those people who
>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>the store. Are they placed there because the
>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
>the draw with your produce, as the human race
>has for thousands of years?
>
>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?


You're just very, very young, not too smart and a bit of a smarmy wiseass. Not
long ago when there were no stupidmarkets, only stand alone neighborhood
greengrocers... and to ensure that local patrons returned the greengrocer would
peel back each ear of corn to be sure it was perfect before bagging it for the
patron. Do you really think folks are peeling back ears of corn at the
stupidmarket for entertainment? Folks are spending their time and effort to
ensure what they spend their hard earned money on is not trash. Actually the
stupidmarkets encourage the customers to check their own corn, saves them a
salary, and even were they to hire someone to husk corn do you really think the
store would instruct that person to sneak in the bad ones (probably how you
think, smarmy), of course not... don't be a moron you young punk... so how does
it feel to have your husks stripped away to show your worth?


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
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> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> Tank



I hope so. I've seen it, too. Sometimes I'll peel the really, really
outer husk off there and do the rest at home. If they wanna compost it,
good for them.
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-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> An update on 8/22/04; check the Fairs Fare tab.

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>I see people stripping ears rapidly and
>throwing them back on the pile without even appearing to inspect them very
>well. They don't look underdeveloped or anything. What are these people
>looking for?
>
>I think these are the same people who go around knocking on melons.
>
>Naomi D.


Hey, I resemble that remark... palpating is not knocking.


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at Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:21:21 GMT in <cgd9d1$hgs$1@ngspool-
d02.news.aol.com>, (Tank) wrote :

>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>corn displays. This is for those people who
>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>the store. Are they placed there because the
>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>it?


This I'll admit is mildly irritating. I've found that it is possible to
determine the quality of corn without opening it in the slightest.
Meanwhile, if people open the ears slightly, the end has a tendency to dry
out and also to lose sweetness slightly faster.

However, determining the quality of corn without opening it at all is
difficult and requires a fair amount of practice as well as a finely-tuned
judgment. So I can't really fault people who inspect too badly, because
inevitably there are a few ears that are underdeveloped or wormy, and if
you're not looking and feeling very closely, you'll most likely pick one
up.

Nonetheless, far, far more irritating than this is the common supermarket
practice of trimming ears. They pull off the outer husks, cut the stem
right back to the cob, and often cut off the entire end, kernels and all.
Some of the worst even pull off all the husk on one side. This definitely
*does* cause the corn to deteriorate much faster and I think should be
eliminated. OTOH, it's rare indeed that I'll buy from a supermarket anyway
because the ears are almost never fresh (i.e. picked that day). There are
enough farms around here either with U-pick or who sell corn picked that
day at farm stands and farmers' markets, that going to a supermarket is
questionable anyway.

> What happened to simply taking the luck of
>the draw with your produce, as the human race
>has for thousands of years?


I disagree here on both counts. If they have produce available for you to
pick through, there's nothing wrong with hand-selecting the best individual
pieces. If you worry that this is depriving others of potential quality in
the produce, I would respond that it's first-come, first-serve. I readily
accept, if I arrive at a farmer's market late, that I'm not going to get
the pick of the lot.

And people *have* been hand-selecting for years. Ever since there have been
markets, people have gone and examined fruits for the best ones, picked out
the very best pieces of meat, taken the nicest, freshest vegetables.

What *is* impolite is when the people who are hand-selecting don't treat
the produce with respect. In other words, they casually fling around
easily-bruised peaches or apples, root roughly through baskets of delicate
mushrooms or strawberries, or bend carrots and green beans till they snap.
This ruins food and, I think, requires more careful monitoring from store
or market personnel. But ironically, it seems that the people who treat the
produce with the least respect are most commonly those who "take the luck
of the draw" and just shovel things into bags. I suppose it makes sense -
those who, when it comes down to it, don't care that much about the quality
of the produce they're getting (or don't know that there is any
difference), might expect others would feel likewise.

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"Coas****cher" > wrote in message
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> No no no! These are the same people who insist on eating a bunch of
> grapes before buying, poking holes in melons, and sqeezing the tomatoes
> till they are mush. We pay for this! If you can't figure out what is
> best, ask for help. The next step, which I expect soon, will be all
> produce packaged in plastic and not be able to be examined till we've
> bought it and gotten it home. I don't want that do you?
>
> xrongor wrote:
> > "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> > r.com...
> >
> >>"Tank" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> >>>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> >>>corn displays. This is for those people who
> >>>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> >>>the store. Are they placed there because the
> >>>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> >>>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> >>>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> >>>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> >>>the draw with your produce, as the human race
> >>>has for thousands of years?
> >>>
> >>>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Tank
> >>>
> >>>This Space To Let.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to

> >
> > pick
> >
> >>and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you

can
> >>choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman

> >
> > picking
> >
> >>the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart.

> >
> >
> > so pick out your own quart of unsquished, ripe berries. all is fair in
> > love, war, and the produce dept <g>
> >
> > randy
> >
> >

>


the alternative is to accept the bunged up green berries sent to the store
from their supplier. more than once ive bought a 'unit' with nice good
stuff carefully put on top over the crappy stuff it was designed to hide.
this isnt an accicdent, but the way the suppliers work. same way they cut
the bacon to look real good though the 'window'.

randy




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"Coas****cher" > wrote in message
...
> No no no! These are the same people who insist on eating a bunch of
> grapes before buying, poking holes in melons, and sqeezing the tomatoes
> till they are mush. We pay for this! If you can't figure out what is
> best, ask for help. The next step, which I expect soon, will be all
> produce packaged in plastic and not be able to be examined till we've
> bought it and gotten it home. I don't want that do you?
>
> xrongor wrote:
> > "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> > r.com...
> >
> >>"Tank" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> >>>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> >>>corn displays. This is for those people who
> >>>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> >>>the store. Are they placed there because the
> >>>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> >>>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> >>>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> >>>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> >>>the draw with your produce, as the human race
> >>>has for thousands of years?
> >>>
> >>>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Tank
> >>>
> >>>This Space To Let.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to

> >
> > pick
> >
> >>and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then you

can
> >>choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a woman

> >
> > picking
> >
> >>the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up her own quart.

> >
> >
> > so pick out your own quart of unsquished, ripe berries. all is fair in
> > love, war, and the produce dept <g>
> >
> > randy
> >
> >

>


the alternative is to accept the bunged up green berries sent to the store
from their supplier. more than once ive bought a 'unit' with nice good
stuff carefully put on top over the crappy stuff it was designed to hide.
this isnt an accicdent, but the way the suppliers work. same way they cut
the bacon to look real good though the 'window'.

randy


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xrongor wrote:

> stuff carefully put on top over the crappy stuff it was designed to hide.
> this isnt an accicdent, but the way the suppliers work. same way they cut
> the bacon to look real good though the 'window'.


The window is the problem. I used to do quite a bit of cross border shopping
when the exchange rate was a little better and American prices were lower than
they are now. I had problem with those little windows that allow you to see
the rind side of the bacon and then have a tiny window to see a small portion
of the cross section of the meat. On this side of the border, the bacon is
wrapped and displayed with the meat site up and clearly visible. A while I ago
there were a few companies who tried the window routine. I refuse to buy it
like that, and many others must have done the same because they gave up on that
trick.

I don't even know why they tried to disguise it so hard. Some people like it
lean, and some like it fatty. I prefer something in between. You may get more
meat for your money on the lean stuff, but it just doesn't cook like bacon or
taste like bacon, and it tends to be tough.

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Dave Smith wrote:


> refuse to buy it like that, and many others must have done the same
> because they gave up on that trick.


Nope, there are still plenty of vendors who still do that damn window thing.
In fact Bar S still does the window and to make it worse they cover the
window with pre-cut flaps. In order to view the bacon one has to tear the
flaps (there's two) on at least one side and pull the flaps back or tear
off completely.

Now, I buy bacon based on price. With bacon running around $6 lb, I won't
buy unless it's on sale in the $3-4 range. So, when Bar S has a sale on
bacon, like they did last week, I have no qualms whatsoever about going
through half a dozen or more packages, ripping flaps like crazy till I find
a good lb of bacon. Sure, I leave a trail of violated and strewn bacon
packages but that's just too damn bad. If they want the packages to stay
pristine, they'll remove the removable flaps so I don't have to. I guess
they figure most folks, like those who will not pick and choose in produce,
are afraid to rip those flaps off. Sorry Charlie. I be rippin'!

nb
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notbob wrote:
<snip>
>
> Now, I buy bacon based on price. With bacon running around $6 lb, I won't
> buy unless it's on sale in the $3-4 range. So, when Bar S has a sale on
> bacon, like they did last week, I have no qualms whatsoever about going
> through half a dozen or more packages, ripping flaps like crazy till I find
> a good lb of bacon. Sure, I leave a trail of violated and strewn bacon
> packages but that's just too damn bad. If they want the packages to stay
> pristine, they'll remove the removable flaps so I don't have to. I guess
> they figure most folks, like those who will not pick and choose in produce,
> are afraid to rip those flaps off. Sorry Charlie. I be rippin'!
>
> nb


I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
"old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
slice it to my specs. or "whack" me off a hunk and I'll slice it when
I get home. Cost more? Yup. Worth it? Absolutely.

--
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On 2004-08-24, Steve Calvin > wrote:

> I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> slice it to my specs....


I'm with you. Unfortunately, all the supers hereabouts have ceased selling
bacon in bulk. I used to get it everywhere. Now I can't get it anywhere
without going out of town. Just one more reason I'll gleefully shred their
damn covered-window packages!

nb


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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in
r.com:

> "Tank" > wrote in message
> ...
>> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>> corn displays. This is for those people who
>> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>> the store. Are they placed there because the
>> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
>> the draw with your produce, as the human race
>> has for thousands of years?
>>
>> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>>
>> --
>> Tank
>>
>> This Space To Let.
>>
>>

>
> My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to
> pick and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then
> you can choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a
> woman picking the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up
> her own quart. I thanked her for leaving all the unripe/mushed berries
> for the rest of us and got a dirty look in return. BTW humans have
> most certainly not taken the luck of the draw with produce for
> thousands of years - that's a really strange notion on your part!
>
>


Ah ha, you found the "Strawberry Bitch"! I think her sister shops in the
stores I frequent.

--
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In article <JbwWc.305025$%_6.4866@attbi_s01>,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2004-08-24, Steve Calvin > wrote:
>
> > I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> > "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> > slice it to my specs....

>
> I'm with you. Unfortunately, all the supers hereabouts have ceased selling
> bacon in bulk. I used to get it everywhere. Now I can't get it anywhere
> without going out of town. Just one more reason I'll gleefully shred their
> damn covered-window packages!
>
> nb


We are fortunate...
The thick sliced "generic" hill country brand is packaged all in a clear
plastic block.

No stoopid carboard packages to hide what you are buying. ;-)

K.

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In article <JbwWc.305025$%_6.4866@attbi_s01>,
notbob > wrote:

> On 2004-08-24, Steve Calvin > wrote:
>
> > I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> > "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> > slice it to my specs....

>
> I'm with you. Unfortunately, all the supers hereabouts have ceased selling
> bacon in bulk. I used to get it everywhere. Now I can't get it anywhere
> without going out of town. Just one more reason I'll gleefully shred their
> damn covered-window packages!
>
> nb


We are fortunate...
The thick sliced "generic" hill country brand is packaged all in a clear
plastic block.

No stoopid carboard packages to hide what you are buying. ;-)

K.

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In article >,
Wayne > wrote:

> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in
> r.com:
>
> > "Tank" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
> >> stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
> >> corn displays. This is for those people who
> >> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
> >> the store. Are they placed there because the
> >> stores are knuckling under to rude people who
> >> peel back the ears to check them? What happened
> >> to being able to judge an ear without destroying
> >> it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
> >> the draw with your produce, as the human race
> >> has for thousands of years?
> >>
> >> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tank
> >>
> >> This Space To Let.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > My feeling is that if the produce is in a bulk bin then it is valid to
> > pick and choose. But if it is already divided up into sales units then
> > you can choose the bag/tray/box you want but that's all. I once saw a
> > woman picking the best srawberries from individual quarts to make up
> > her own quart. I thanked her for leaving all the unripe/mushed berries
> > for the rest of us and got a dirty look in return. BTW humans have
> > most certainly not taken the luck of the draw with produce for
> > thousands of years - that's a really strange notion on your part!
> >
> >

>
> Ah ha, you found the "Strawberry Bitch"! I think her sister shops in the
> stores I frequent.


Sorry, but strawberries are too expensive for me to buy moldy, mushy or
wrinkled strawberries. I do the same thing and I can't for the life of
me see a problem with it!

Grow a spine and do the same thing.

K (a fellow strawberry bitch)

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"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> > Now, I buy bacon based on price. With bacon running around $6 lb, I

won't
> > buy unless it's on sale in the $3-4 range. So, when Bar S has a sale on
> > bacon, like they did last week, I have no qualms whatsoever about going
> > through half a dozen or more packages, ripping flaps like crazy till I

find
> > a good lb of bacon. Sure, I leave a trail of violated and strewn bacon
> > packages but that's just too damn bad. If they want the packages to

stay
> > pristine, they'll remove the removable flaps so I don't have to. I

guess
> > they figure most folks, like those who will not pick and choose in

produce,
> > are afraid to rip those flaps off. Sorry Charlie. I be rippin'!
> >
> > nb

>
> I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
> "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
> slice it to my specs. or "whack" me off a hunk and I'll slice it when
> I get home. Cost more? Yup. Worth it? Absolutely.


i got the same thing where i live, but its actually cheaper than the grocery
store. 2.69 a pound sliced or not. there is nothing better than getting a
slab of bacon and cutting it to size yourself, or even just frying up a big
thick hunk of it <g>

randy




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"Katra" wrote:
> Sorry, but strawberries are too expensive for me to buy moldy, mushy or
> wrinkled strawberries. I do the same thing and I can't for the life of
> me see a problem with it!


I don't see a problem, either. I pick and sort through berries the same way
I pick and sort peaches, pears, tomatoes... everything! I strip the husk
back on corn, too -- not all the way back, just far enough to check out
kernal maturity and get a handle on infestation. It'll clue you in on
drought damage pretty quickly, as well.


> Grow a spine and do the same thing.
>
> K (a fellow strawberry bitch)


Excellent advice!

<sincerely, "B3">


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>Katra says:
>
>>notbob wrote:
>> >Steve Calvin wrote:
>> >
>> > I gave up on pre-packaged bacon. I'm lucky enough to have an
>> > "old-time" butcher in my area and buy slab bacon. They'll either
>> > slice it to my specs....

>>
>> I'm with you. Unfortunately, all the supers hereabouts have ceased selling
>> bacon in bulk. I used to get it everywhere. Now I can't get it anywhere
>> without going out of town. Just one more reason I'll gleefully shred their
>> damn covered-window packages!
>>
>> nb

>
>We are fortunate...
>The thick sliced "generic" hill country brand is packaged all in a clear
>plastic block.
>
>No stoopid carboard packages to hide what you are buying. ;-)



Appearance has little to do with bacon quality, certainly nothing to do with
how it will taste. All those little windows tell you is fat to lean ratio, but
only of that one slice, no way to tell if the lean tapers off drastically two
slices down... appearance means zilch since all sliced bacon has those windows.
And buying bulk bacon is no recommendation either, it's almost always
unlabled, a cheap generic that the consumer pays dearly for the privileged of
having it sliced to order, that's it. If you want good bacon, search for a
brand name you like, and then you'll get consistancy. I like Boar's Head brand
bacon... never been disappointed.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
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Sheldon
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"pennyaline" > wrote in
:

> "Katra" wrote:
>> Sorry, but strawberries are too expensive for me to buy moldy, mushy
>> or wrinkled strawberries. I do the same thing and I can't for the
>> life of me see a problem with it!

>
> I don't see a problem, either. I pick and sort through berries the
> same way I pick and sort peaches, pears, tomatoes... everything! I
> strip the husk back on corn, too -- not all the way back, just far
> enough to check out kernal maturity and get a handle on infestation.
> It'll clue you in on drought damage pretty quickly, as well.


Sorting through a pile of loose fruit like peaches, pears, apples,
tomatoes, etc., is different than rooting through a pre-apportioned
container of berries. Likewise with all the idiots that pull all the
bunches of bananas apart to choose a few individual ones that they want.
I prefer buying a bunch, not a random selection.

I also strip back the tip end of ears of corn and handle fruit to
determine condition and ripeness, but I wouldn't think of assembling my
own container of berries from those already there. I look at them as
carefully as I can, and if I find them too suspicious, I just don't buy
them. A couple of bad ones at the bottom is not a life or death issue.
If you can't afford them, then you shouldn't buy them.

--
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:21:21 -0400, "Tank" >
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

>This year, I have noticed a number of grocery
>stores placing trash cans next to their sweet
>corn displays. This is for those people who
>feel it necessary to strip their corn there in
>the store. Are they placed there because the
>stores are knuckling under to rude people who
>peel back the ears to check them? What happened
>to being able to judge an ear without destroying
>it? What happened to simply taking the luck of
>the draw with your produce, as the human race
>has for thousands of years?
>
>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?


Well, color me stupid, but I always figured the trash cans were there
mainly so people didn't have to get cornsilk and husks all over their
kitchens. I mean, I'm gonna yank down a wad of husk to check the
quality of the kernels whether they have a trash can there or not.

The only places hereabouts (SoCal) that the grocers seem to do that is
Henry's Marketplace and Gelson's.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

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PENMART01 wrote:

<snip>
> Appearance has little to do with bacon quality, certainly nothing to do with
> how it will taste. All those little windows tell you is fat to lean ratio, but
> only of that one slice, no way to tell if the lean tapers off drastically two
> slices down... appearance means zilch since all sliced bacon has those windows.
> And buying bulk bacon is no recommendation either, it's almost always
> unlabled, a cheap generic that the consumer pays dearly for the privileged of
> having it sliced to order, that's it. If you want good bacon, search for a
> brand name you like, and then you'll get consistancy. I like Boar's Head brand
> bacon... never been disappointed.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````


Generalities usually don't work Sheldon. ;-) If you ever get down to
Hopewell Junction, check out a shop there called Frankies. (Ask anyone
in the area. It's been there for 30 years that I know of)

They have excellant meat, including the slab bacon. I'll put it up
against any pre-packaged bacon you want.

--
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Tank wrote:
> This year, I have noticed a number of grocery stores placing trash
> cans next to their sweet corn displays. This is for those people who
> feel it necessary to strip their corn there in the store. Are they
> placed there because the stores are knuckling under to rude people
> who peel back the ears to check them? What happened to being able to
> judge an ear without destroying it? What happened to simply taking
> the luck of the draw with your produce, as the human race has for
> thousands of years?
>
> Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> -- Tank
>



I only buy fresh corn at the supermarkets if it is so cheap they are
practically giving it away. I peel one or two representative ears back
a little to check if they are filled out OK and not overripe. If they
look OK (and at a nickel per ear, my standards are pretty low) I buy the
ones I checked and 10 or 12 more without even checking them.

I usually buy corn from trucks on the side of the road. When I'm
looking them over, the farmer usually shucks an ear a lot more than I
would to show me. I examine this a lot more than I do supermarket corn
to make sure it's really fresh, and I'm a little more careful picking
out the ears -- but I still don't peel back every ear.

Bob
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On 2004-08-24, Wayne > wrote:

> them. A couple of bad ones at the bottom is not a life or death issue.


You're correct. It's not. OTOH, how do you think those under/over-ripe
berries get on the bottom while the ones on top are picture perfect. It's
because they are put there ...on purpose! It's deceptive packaging and it's
standard practice. Just because you choose to overlook fraud doesn't mean
anyone else has to.

I'm way too lazy to reshuffle a quart of berries. I just make it a point to
shop where I know all the berries will be good.

nb
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Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message >...
> In article >, "Tank"
> > wrote:
> > Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> > Tank


Maybe some people don't like paying $1.99/lb for husks and corn silk....

wd40
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Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message >...
> In article >, "Tank"
> > wrote:
> > Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
> > Tank


Maybe some people don't like paying $1.99/lb for husks and corn silk....

wd40
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Bubbablue wrote:
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote in message >...
>
>>In article >, "Tank"
> wrote:
>>
>>>Am I the only person who dislikes this trend?
>>>Tank

>
>
> Maybe some people don't like paying $1.99/lb for husks and corn silk....
>
> wd40



Who buys fresh corn by the pound? If that's the only way to get fresh
corn, buy the frozen cut corn for about $1 a pound.

Bob
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