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... > You are off topic. > Please take your political topics to a political newsgroup. > Jawohl, herr obergruppenkapitan! |
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BubbaBob wrote:
> Larry Smith > wrote: > >>When Nixon broke the law the Republicans were among the first >>to call for his resignation, and they were instrumental in >>forcing him out. > > What absolute bullshit. How old are _you_, "Bubba"? -- ..-. .-. .---. .---. .-..-.|Experts in Linux/Unix: www.WildOpenSource.com | |__ / | \| |-< | |-< > / |"Making the bazaar more commonplace" `----'`-^-'`-'`-'`-'`-' `-' |Check out my new novel: "Cloud Realm" at: home:www.smith-house.org:8000|http://www.smith-house.org:8000/books/list.html |
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In article >, Larry Smith
> wrote: > There has never been, and probably never will be, as great > a mockery of the whole US political system than the way the > Democrats closed ranks to protect Clinton from impeachment > for his crimes. > A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. |
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"PENMART01" > wrote in message ... snip > > Of the two fools I choose Mrs. Laura Bush. > Oh, puhleeze. |
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"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message ... > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > snip >> >> Of the two fools I choose Mrs. Laura Bush. >> > Oh, puhleeze. > > Huh? You have to admit, she does come across much better than either W or Kerry. We really need a good third party. I'd like to see Forbes run. Even Perot if the Martians let him go. |
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"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message ... > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > snip >> >> Of the two fools I choose Mrs. Laura Bush. >> > Oh, puhleeze. > > Huh? You have to admit, she does come across much better than either W or Kerry. We really need a good third party. I'd like to see Forbes run. Even Perot if the Martians let him go. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message m... > > "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > > ... > > snip > >> > >> Of the two fools I choose Mrs. Laura Bush. > >> > > Oh, puhleeze. > > > > > > Huh? You have to admit, she does come across much better than either W or > Kerry. > > We really need a good third party. I'd like to see Forbes run. Even Perot > if the Martians let him go. > > Until Bush really put the spurs to his re-election, he never even remembered she was there. She trailed along behind him like a lost dog. He never looked at her or spoke to her. Now all of a sudden they walk side-by-side, hand-in-hand. Right after he was elected their daughter went to the hospital for surgery. Mrs. Bush went to the family holiday boating party as usual and left the daughter alone at the hospital. Any decent mother would have stayed behind. She makes me feel embarrassed and ashamed for her. Janet |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message m... > > "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message > ... > > > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > > ... > > snip > >> > >> Of the two fools I choose Mrs. Laura Bush. > >> > > Oh, puhleeze. > > > > > > Huh? You have to admit, she does come across much better than either W or > Kerry. > > We really need a good third party. I'd like to see Forbes run. Even Perot > if the Martians let him go. > > Until Bush really put the spurs to his re-election, he never even remembered she was there. She trailed along behind him like a lost dog. He never looked at her or spoke to her. Now all of a sudden they walk side-by-side, hand-in-hand. Right after he was elected their daughter went to the hospital for surgery. Mrs. Bush went to the family holiday boating party as usual and left the daughter alone at the hospital. Any decent mother would have stayed behind. She makes me feel embarrassed and ashamed for her. Janet |
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>I couldn't get to Washington to throw my medals at Nixon so I just >threw them in the trash, where they belonged. > I am sorry you feel that way. Service to your country was a good thing whether you liked it or not. My husband was a volunteer and served much longer than YKW, he has medals but does not brag about them. I am proud of his service to our country. Rosie |
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>I couldn't get to Washington to throw my medals at Nixon so I just >threw them in the trash, where they belonged. > I am sorry you feel that way. Service to your country was a good thing whether you liked it or not. My husband was a volunteer and served much longer than YKW, he has medals but does not brag about them. I am proud of his service to our country. Rosie |
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>My husband was a volunteer and served much longer than YKW, he has medals but
>does not brag about them. I am proud of his service to our country. >Rosie ----------------------------------------------- Good for him, Rosie ! (What does "YKW" stand for, please) Nancree |
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>Good for him, Rosie ! (What does "YKW" stand for, please) >Nancree YKW=You know who !!! LOL Thank You Nancree, I AM very proud of him. Rosie |
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>Good for him, Rosie ! (What does "YKW" stand for, please) >Nancree YKW=You know who !!! LOL Thank You Nancree, I AM very proud of him. Rosie |
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stark wrote about Clinton:
> A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. It's only a crime if she got paid for it. The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just grossly inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public servant -- your local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed to keep his job if caught in the same behavior?) The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. Bob |
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stark wrote about Clinton:
> A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. It's only a crime if she got paid for it. The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just grossly inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public servant -- your local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed to keep his job if caught in the same behavior?) The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. Bob |
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"Bob" > wrote in
: > stark wrote about Clinton: > >> A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. > > It's only a crime if she got paid for it. > > The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just > grossly inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public > servant -- your local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed > to keep his job if caught in the same behavior?) > > The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. -- German to Picasso in front of Guernica: Did you do this? Picasso to German in front of Guernica: No, it was you. |
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"Bob" > wrote in
: > stark wrote about Clinton: > >> A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. > > It's only a crime if she got paid for it. > > The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just > grossly inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public > servant -- your local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed > to keep his job if caught in the same behavior?) > > The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. -- German to Picasso in front of Guernica: Did you do this? Picasso to German in front of Guernica: No, it was you. |
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Michael wrote:
> Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would > say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was > telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He pulls out a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the murder would be a misdemeanor "at best", because it was only covering up a shoplifting offense. Perjury is a felony, regardless of the magnitude of the offense being covered up. If Clinton *had* told Ken Starr, "**** you, and the elephant you rode in on," it wouldn't have been lying. But he didn't have the spine to stand up and say that. Instead, he lied under oath. It's sad how little value people place on their word nowadays. Vows seemingly mean nothing to Clinton. It's a side issue, but I disagree that Clinton's peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own. His extramarital affairs provide insight into the man's character, and many voters really care about the character of politicians in office. I think Clinton has the character of a weasel. I certainly don't believe that Monica Lewinsky was the first -- or the last -- of Clinton's dalliances. *sigh* Well, this correspondence has provided only a weak excuse for not cleaning my kitchen, so back to the grime... Bob |
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Michael wrote:
> Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would > say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was > telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He pulls out a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the murder would be a misdemeanor "at best", because it was only covering up a shoplifting offense. Perjury is a felony, regardless of the magnitude of the offense being covered up. If Clinton *had* told Ken Starr, "**** you, and the elephant you rode in on," it wouldn't have been lying. But he didn't have the spine to stand up and say that. Instead, he lied under oath. It's sad how little value people place on their word nowadays. Vows seemingly mean nothing to Clinton. It's a side issue, but I disagree that Clinton's peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own. His extramarital affairs provide insight into the man's character, and many voters really care about the character of politicians in office. I think Clinton has the character of a weasel. I certainly don't believe that Monica Lewinsky was the first -- or the last -- of Clinton's dalliances. *sigh* Well, this correspondence has provided only a weak excuse for not cleaning my kitchen, so back to the grime... Bob |
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"Bob" > wrote in
: >> Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I >> would say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. >> Basically he was telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant >> you rode in on. > > Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He > pulls out a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the > murder would be a misdemeanor "at best", because it was only > covering up a shoplifting offense. It's not analogous at all. Murder is a capital offense. Lying to a nosy busybody of a Republican toady is not a capital offense (if anything it's a public service). *If* the questions asked of Clinton had had any bearing on national security or his ability to hold the office of President, and he lied about it (like Nixon lied about his involvement in Watergate), then he should have been held accountable, But what he was being asked to do was to expose his personal life to public scrutiny for no reason other than the overweening titillation of Lucianne Goldberg and Ken Starr who can't abide by the idea that Democrats can get themselves laid. The secret masturbators tied up the work of government for two years with their innuendo and persiflage. Nothing was accomplished, the point of the exercise was invisible to most people and it seemed there was no end to the muckraking they were willing to entertain simply to express their overweening and bilious hatred of Clinton. This investigation was the real crime and those who pushed it through the real criminals. They should have been horsewhipped if you people had had any common sense. The fact that they haven't been horsewhipped or castigated in any fashion by their own kind speaks volumes for the quality of political discourse that too often reeks out of the right wing of the US Capitalist Partei. -- German to Picasso in front of Guernica: Did you do this? Picasso to German in front of Guernica: No, it was you. |
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"Bob" > wrote in
: >> Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I >> would say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. >> Basically he was telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant >> you rode in on. > > Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He > pulls out a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the > murder would be a misdemeanor "at best", because it was only > covering up a shoplifting offense. It's not analogous at all. Murder is a capital offense. Lying to a nosy busybody of a Republican toady is not a capital offense (if anything it's a public service). *If* the questions asked of Clinton had had any bearing on national security or his ability to hold the office of President, and he lied about it (like Nixon lied about his involvement in Watergate), then he should have been held accountable, But what he was being asked to do was to expose his personal life to public scrutiny for no reason other than the overweening titillation of Lucianne Goldberg and Ken Starr who can't abide by the idea that Democrats can get themselves laid. The secret masturbators tied up the work of government for two years with their innuendo and persiflage. Nothing was accomplished, the point of the exercise was invisible to most people and it seemed there was no end to the muckraking they were willing to entertain simply to express their overweening and bilious hatred of Clinton. This investigation was the real crime and those who pushed it through the real criminals. They should have been horsewhipped if you people had had any common sense. The fact that they haven't been horsewhipped or castigated in any fashion by their own kind speaks volumes for the quality of political discourse that too often reeks out of the right wing of the US Capitalist Partei. -- German to Picasso in front of Guernica: Did you do this? Picasso to German in front of Guernica: No, it was you. |
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>>> When Nixon broke the law the Republicans were among the first
>>> to call for his resignation, and they were instrumental in >>> forcing him out. >> >>What absolute bullshit. Not absolute. The Republican DID repudiate him, but for his fiscal policies, not for lying. |
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Nancree wrote: >>My husband was a volunteer and served much longer than YKW, he has medals but >>does not brag about them. I am proud of his service to our country. >>Rosie > > ----------------------------------------------- > Good for him, Rosie ! (What does "YKW" stand for, please) > Nancree > I am certain she must mean George Bush. After all, it was he, who climbed out of a jet, in a flight suit, and declared Mission Accomplished. -- Alan "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ........President George W. Bush, at the signing of the $417 billion defense-spending bill, August, 2004 |
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Nancree wrote: >>My husband was a volunteer and served much longer than YKW, he has medals but >>does not brag about them. I am proud of his service to our country. >>Rosie > > ----------------------------------------------- > Good for him, Rosie ! (What does "YKW" stand for, please) > Nancree > I am certain she must mean George Bush. After all, it was he, who climbed out of a jet, in a flight suit, and declared Mission Accomplished. -- Alan "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ........President George W. Bush, at the signing of the $417 billion defense-spending bill, August, 2004 |
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>I am certain she must mean George Bush. After all, it was he, who >climbed out of a jet, in a flight suit, and declared Mission Accomplished. >-- Wrong again, I meant Kerry. After all he served only 3 months in combat plus one month at the beach in training. Serving in the National Guard may not be your cup of tea, but it is SERVICE. Rosie |
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"RMiller" > wrote in message
... > > > >I am certain she must mean George Bush. After all, it was he, who > >climbed out of a jet, in a flight suit, and declared Mission Accomplished. > >-- > > Wrong again, I meant Kerry. After all he served only 3 months in combat plus > one month at the beach in training. > > Serving in the National Guard may not be your cup of tea, but it is SERVICE. > > Rosie Except when you are AWOL. Given that shrubby used family connections to jump ahead of 500 people on the National Guard waiting list, I wonder who went to 'Nam in his place? I wonder if that person was killed or crippled? -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"RMiller" > wrote in message
... > > > >I am certain she must mean George Bush. After all, it was he, who > >climbed out of a jet, in a flight suit, and declared Mission Accomplished. > >-- > > Wrong again, I meant Kerry. After all he served only 3 months in combat plus > one month at the beach in training. > > Serving in the National Guard may not be your cup of tea, but it is SERVICE. > > Rosie Except when you are AWOL. Given that shrubby used family connections to jump ahead of 500 people on the National Guard waiting list, I wonder who went to 'Nam in his place? I wonder if that person was killed or crippled? -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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In article >, Bob
> wrote: > stark wrote about Clinton: > > > A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. > > It's only a crime if she got paid for it. > > The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just grossly > inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public servant -- your > local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed to keep his job if caught > in the same behavior?) > > The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. > > Bob > A lie over a BJ. That's not even worthy of a lie. And you'd probably be surprised over what goes on in your local post office. And some of your churches. |
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In article >, Bob
> wrote: > stark wrote about Clinton: > > > A BJ is a crime now? Uh oh. > > It's only a crime if she got paid for it. > > The sexual shenanigans with Monica Lewinsky weren't criminal, just grossly > inappropriate. (Do you think that some low-level public servant -- your > local postmaster, for example -- would be allowed to keep his job if caught > in the same behavior?) > > The CRIME that Clinton committed was lying under oath. > > Bob > A lie over a BJ. That's not even worthy of a lie. And you'd probably be surprised over what goes on in your local post office. And some of your churches. |
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In article >, Bob
> wrote: > Michael wrote: > > > Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would > > say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was > > telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. > > Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He pulls out > a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the murder would be a > misdemeanor "at best", because it was only covering up a shoplifting > offense. > > Perjury is a felony, regardless of the magnitude of the offense being > covered up. > > If Clinton *had* told Ken Starr, "**** you, and the elephant you rode in > on," it wouldn't have been lying. But he didn't have the spine to stand up > and say that. Instead, he lied under oath. It's sad how little value people > place on their word nowadays. Vows seemingly mean nothing to Clinton. > > It's a side issue, but I disagree that Clinton's peccadilloes are nobody's > business but his own. His extramarital affairs provide insight into the > man's character, and many voters really care about the character of > politicians in office. I think Clinton has the character of a weasel. I > certainly don't believe that Monica Lewinsky was the first -- or the last -- > of Clinton's dalliances. > > *sigh* Well, this correspondence has provided only a weak excuse for not > cleaning my kitchen, so back to the grime... > > Bob > Argumentum ad absurdum. Absolute nonsense. |
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In article >, Bob
> wrote: > Michael wrote: > > > Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I would > > say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. Basically he was > > telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant you rode in on. > > Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He pulls out > a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the murder would be a > misdemeanor "at best", because it was only covering up a shoplifting > offense. > > Perjury is a felony, regardless of the magnitude of the offense being > covered up. > > If Clinton *had* told Ken Starr, "**** you, and the elephant you rode in > on," it wouldn't have been lying. But he didn't have the spine to stand up > and say that. Instead, he lied under oath. It's sad how little value people > place on their word nowadays. Vows seemingly mean nothing to Clinton. > > It's a side issue, but I disagree that Clinton's peccadilloes are nobody's > business but his own. His extramarital affairs provide insight into the > man's character, and many voters really care about the character of > politicians in office. I think Clinton has the character of a weasel. I > certainly don't believe that Monica Lewinsky was the first -- or the last -- > of Clinton's dalliances. > > *sigh* Well, this correspondence has provided only a weak excuse for not > cleaning my kitchen, so back to the grime... > > Bob > Argumentum ad absurdum. Absolute nonsense. |
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In article >, Michel Boucher
> wrote: > "Bob" > wrote in > : > > >> Considering his peccadilloes are nobody's business but his own, I > >> would say that lying about that is a misdemeanour at best. > >> Basically he was telling Ken Starr: **** you, and the elephant > >> you rode in on. > > > > Here's an analogous situation: A youth gets caught shoplifting. He > > pulls out a gun and shoots the shopkeeper. By your logic, the > > murder would be a misdemeanor "at best", because it was only > > covering up a shoplifting offense. > > It's not analogous at all. Murder is a capital offense. Lying to a > nosy busybody of a Republican toady is not a capital offense (if > anything it's a public service). *If* the questions asked of Clinton > had had any bearing on national security or his ability to hold the > office of President, and he lied about it (like Nixon lied about his > involvement in Watergate), then he should have been held accountable, > But what he was being asked to do was to expose his personal life to > public scrutiny for no reason other than the overweening titillation > of Lucianne Goldberg and Ken Starr who can't abide by the idea that > Democrats can get themselves laid. > > The secret masturbators tied up the work of government for two years > with their innuendo and persiflage. Nothing was accomplished, the > point of the exercise was invisible to most people and it seemed > there was no end to the muckraking they were willing to entertain > simply to express their overweening and bilious hatred of Clinton. > > This investigation was the real crime and those who pushed it through > the real criminals. They should have been horsewhipped if you people > had had any common sense. The fact that they haven't been > horsewhipped or castigated in any fashion by their own kind speaks > volumes for the quality of political discourse that too often reeks > out of the right wing of the US Capitalist Partei. Well said. And probably how history will view it. |
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In article >, WardNA
> wrote: > >>> When Nixon broke the law the Republicans were among the first > >>> to call for his resignation, and they were instrumental in > >>> forcing him out. > >> > >>What absolute bullshit. > > Not absolute. The Republican DID repudiate him, but for his fiscal policies, > not for lying. Don't forget his views on public education and welfare. Those issues can add to your smoke. |
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In article >, WardNA
> wrote: > >>> When Nixon broke the law the Republicans were among the first > >>> to call for his resignation, and they were instrumental in > >>> forcing him out. > >> > >>What absolute bullshit. > > Not absolute. The Republican DID repudiate him, but for his fiscal policies, > not for lying. Don't forget his views on public education and welfare. Those issues can add to your smoke. |
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: : Serving in the National Guard may not be your cup of tea, but it is SERVICE. : : Rosie it is service ONLY if you show up..................which apparently bush did not! |
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: : Serving in the National Guard may not be your cup of tea, but it is SERVICE. : : Rosie it is service ONLY if you show up..................which apparently bush did not! |
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