I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and common
courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it or
reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but don't
call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It only
reflects on you.

>...or any use other derogatory remark

That should be "...or use any other derogatory remark."

On 02 Jan 2004 21:53:35 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

>I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and common
>courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it or
>reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but don't
>call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It only
>reflects on you.

I think you need to make a resolution to go away.

Gar

DJS0302 wrote:

> I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and common
> courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it or
> reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but don't
> call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It only
> reflects on you.

It's a nice thought, but the fact is an excess of people
are on usenet specifically to call people stupid, or an idiot, or
some other derogatory remark. Ah well.

ObFood: Time to crank up the grill and get to work on some
of those Omaha Steaks that showed up for Christmas.

--
Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com

>I think you need to make a resolution to go away.
>
>Gar

You just proved my point.

On 02 Jan 2004 21:53:35 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

>I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and common
>courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it or
>reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but don't
>call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It only
>reflects on you.

What a choice target.

OBFood and New Year's: "Several communities put their own spins on New
York's ball-dropping. In Pennsylvania alone, a 9-foot wooden lollipop
dropped in Hummelstown, a 100-pound slab of bologna was lowered in
Lebanon, and a giant green pickle mascot took a plunge into a barrel
in Dillsburg."

From
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in534940.shtml

Balogna...

modom

On 02 Jan 2004 22:05:24 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:

>>I think you need to make a resolution to go away.
>>
>>Gar
>
>You just proved my point.

This is just a newsgroup. Grow some thicker skin.

Gar

In article >, Gar <> wrote:

> On 02 Jan 2004 22:05:24 GMT, ospam (DJS0302) wrote:
>
> >>I think you need to make a resolution to go away.
> >>
> >>Gar
> >
> >You just proved my point.
>
> This is just a newsgroup. Grow some thicker skin.


You aren't the only person who thinks that mindless and pointless insults
drive people away because they can't handle it. I've seen it posted
several times and I think it's time to refute it. People are driven away
because they have no interest in mindless and pointless posts. People
read this newsgroup for many different reasons, but most posters aren't
interested in reading stupid insults. Intelligent and cutting insults?
Sometimes, for some posters. Reading repetitive posts that say, "you are
an idiot" is dull and boring. People don't leave this group because they
are "driven away", they leave because they are bored and don't find that
the posts are interesting enough to be worth the time.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and
common
> courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it
or
> reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but
don't
> call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It
only
> reflects on you.

Buzz Off............

Dimitri

>Buzz Off............
>
>Dimitri

Well you're not very nice. Do you kick little puppies too?

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> >Buzz Off............
> >
> >Dimitri
>
> Well you're not very nice. Do you kick little puppies too?

Only when they are bad...

Oh yes and when they make value judgments for others.

Dimitri

"DJS0302" > wrote in message
...
> I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and
common
> courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it
or
> reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but
don't
> call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It
only
> reflects on you.

While I'll admit good manners are a good start for the new year, it was my
understanding that a new year's resolution was made for one's self, not
offered by others.

A newsgroup, being a public forum, is going to have rude people. It's a
fact of life.
We experience, we knuckle up, and we move on. We grow stronger, and
hopefully leave alittle of ourselves behind us. To ask more of us, is to
forget one's self.

Dan Abel wrote:

> You aren't the only person who thinks that mindless and pointless insults
> drive people away because they can't handle it. I've seen it posted
> several times and I think it's time to refute it.

I agree, but manners cost us little, and do improve the tone of things.

I once spoke plainly, but calmly, to a 7 year old who was making
insulting remarks about her grandmother, words plainly learned from her
parent who didn't like this person as a mother, despite the fact all the
other siblings in the family *did* like this woman as mother. I told her
that big, tough, judgemental words might make her feel big and tough and
in control, but they only impress the feeble-minded. Of course I was
saying this to her father, who was at the table as well. Since the
family was also rah-rah BornAgain, I also reminded her the Jesus she
believed in would exhort her to be gentler of tongue.
I'm not sure if this had any lasting effect, but this granddaughter did
grow up to defy father and visit her "disowned" grandparents quite a
bit.
blacksalt
Fan of the ObFood.
ObFood:
While the a.m. toast is toasting, I place my knife, loaded with cold
cream cheese, over the slots. By the time the toast is up, the CC
spreads easily.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:58:19 +0000, DJS0302 wrote:

>
>
>>...or any use other derogatory remark
>
> That should be "...or use any other derogatory remark."

maybe you want to listen to what ther person means instead of
picking at the grammar.

anyway, I think this is a great suggestion anywhen and anywhere.

general curtesy seems to be lost nowadays.

Merry christmas and a happy new year to everyone...

Disagree?

Ok, fine...

P.

In article >, kalanamak > wrote:

> Dan Abel wrote:
>
> > You aren't the only person who thinks that mindless and pointless insults
> > drive people away because they can't handle it. I've seen it posted
> > several times and I think it's time to refute it.
>
> I agree, but manners cost us little, and do improve the tone of things.


Perhaps I didn't phrase my post well, or I don't understand your reply,
but I think that we are agreeing completely.

Let's say that you were thinking about going to a party, but then you find
out that someone that you know to have poor manners will be attending.
So, you decide to stay home instead. But then, someone advises that you
just need to grow a thicker skin. However, that's not the point. I'm
sure that your skin is thick enough to withstand the poor manners. It's
just that it isn't fun or useful to have to put up with it. It's a more
productive use of your time to stay home.

I think it works that way on this group. People leave the group
sometimes, not because their skin isn't thick enough, but because it isn't
worth their time to read through some of the posts.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

In article >, "Peter Morris"
> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:58:19 +0000, DJS0302 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>...or any use other derogatory remark
> >
> > That should be "...or use any other derogatory remark."
>
> maybe you want to listen to what ther person means instead of
> picking at the grammar.


I think that if you go back and look at the authors, you will find that
the OP is correcting his own phrase.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

Reg wrote:

> It's a nice thought, but the fact is an excess of people
> are on usenet specifically to call people stupid, or an idiot, or
> some other derogatory remark. Ah well.

I think you have that backwards. I think an excess of people post
to newsgroups with the intent to incite people, and are well deserving
of being called an idiot. Don't blame the people who call it as it is.

nancy (an idiot caller)

>> maybe you want to listen to what ther person means instead of
>> picking at the grammar.
>
>
> I think that if you go back and look at the authors, you will find that
> the OP is correcting his own phrase.
<Grin> Oops, is my face red?

ospam (DJS0302) wrote in message >...
> I think some people here need to make a resolution to learn manners and common
> courtesy. If you don't like what someone writes you can either ignore it or
> reply to it and say why you don't like it using constructive remarks, but don't
> call someone stupid or an idiot or any use other derogatory remarks. It only
> reflects on you.

"I resolve to do more Trolling."

Greg Zywicki

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:47:55 -0800, kalanamak >
wrote:

>Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> You aren't the only person who thinks that mindless and pointless insults
>> drive people away because they can't handle it. I've seen it posted
>> several times and I think it's time to refute it.
>
>I agree, but manners cost us little, and do improve the tone of things.
>
>I once spoke plainly, but calmly, to a 7 year old who was making
>insulting remarks about her grandmother, words plainly learned from her
>parent who didn't like this person as a mother, despite the fact all the
>other siblings in the family *did* like this woman as mother. I told her
>that big, tough, judgemental words might make her feel big and tough and
>in control, but they only impress the feeble-minded. Of course I was
>saying this to her father, who was at the table as well. Since the
>family was also rah-rah BornAgain, I also reminded her the Jesus she
>believed in would exhort her to be gentler of tongue.
>I'm not sure if this had any lasting effect, but this granddaughter did
>grow up to defy father and visit her "disowned" grandparents quite a
>bit.
>blacksalt
>Fan of the ObFood.
>ObFood:
>While the a.m. toast is toasting, I place my knife, loaded with cold
>cream cheese, over the slots. By the time the toast is up, the CC
>spreads easily.

Blacksalt, what a lovely person you are! What a great thing to tell a
child (and more importantly, her controlling parent).

blessings to you and yours,
Lisette in Sacramento, California