O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar
debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you
going to survive?

Farmer John

Fudge wrote:
>
> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar
> debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
> possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
> it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you
> going to survive?

By ignoring idiots like you?

nancy

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>Fudge wrote:
>>
>> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
>> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
>> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar
>> debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
>> possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
>> it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
>> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you
>> going to survive?
>
>By ignoring idiots like you?
>
>nancy


We could all eat fudge.

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young

> >By ignoring idiots like you?

> We could all eat fudge.
>
> Boron

Now, there's a plan!

(laugh) nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
>
>> >By ignoring idiots like you?
>
>> We could all eat fudge.
>>
>> Boron
>
> Now, there's a plan!
>
> (laugh) nancy
>

And a very good one!

"Fudge" > wrote in

> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
> dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
> upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00
> if you can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and
> anarchy will prevail. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain
> subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?
>
> Farmer John
>
This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who
will be only too happy to answer your question in more detail than you're
likely to want.

Also, google for urban agriculture.

And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many
books which deal with survival conditions which you've probably never
thought of -- fatal collisions between universes, the literal death of
God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

Judge Sawney Bean
The law west of Donner Pass.



--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://dsgood.blogspot.com or
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

"Dan Goodman" > wrote in message
...
> "Fudge" > wrote in
>
> > O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> > dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> > Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
> > dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
> > upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00
> > if you can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and
> > anarchy will prevail. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain
> > subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?
> >
> > Farmer John
> >
> This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who
> will be only too happy to answer your question in more detail than you're
> likely to want.

Survive? How could anyone possibly survive without Skippy peanut butter?

I'm going to buy up all the ashes and sackcloth I can find (before the
rush, you know), and start giving "gnashing, wailing, and rending"
lessons. Gotta stay up with the current fashions...

Sheesh...

> Also, google for urban agriculture.
>
> And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many
> books which deal with survival conditions which you've probably never
> thought of -- fatal collisions between universes, the literal death of
> God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

Don't forget the Spikey-Haired Cannibal Mutants.


CC

Nancy Young wrote:
> Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
>
>
>>>By ignoring idiots like you?
>
>
>>We could all eat fudge.
>>
>>Boron
>
>
> Now, there's a plan!
>
> (laugh) nancy

but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>

--
Steve

Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

"Condor Chef" > wrote in message news:<yksJb.16074$JD6.14557@lakeread04>...
> "Dan Goodman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Fudge" > wrote in
> >
> > > O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> > > dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> > > Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
> > > dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
> > > upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00
> > > if you can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and
> > > anarchy will prevail. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain
> > > subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?
> > >
> > > Farmer John
> > >

Assuming for a moment that the situation is not quite that bad:

- I have observed both a hurricane and a winter storm knocking out
power for several weeks.
- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
late 70's?). I mention that because it illustrates how quickly we can
get 'testy' if things don't function as we expect. I get uncomfortable
waiting in supermarket lines when a winter storm is forecast.
- I believe the terrorist threats to be real, and although we'll be
able to sort things out in a matter of time, I'd like to be able to
feed my family during the crisis period. Being prepared is a way of
fighting back. I don't feel powerless. Sort of establishing an
alternate food-supply infrastructure. Also, there may be folks who
need community-based help more than I do/will.

So, armed with those threat possibilities (you need to do your own
threat assessment; Farmer John obviously has a more dramatic view then
I do), how does one prepare?
I figure the stuff in the freezer is good for about a week, then it
gets made into a BIG casserole, as much as possible consumed, then
discarded (unless I can keep it cold somehow). Then what?

Remember my question about 'all cans meals'? Bingo.

- Mike (off to see if canning supplies are still available)

In rec.food.cooking, Fudge > wrote:
> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion dollar
> debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
> possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
> it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you
> going to survive?

> Farmer John

I'm going to steal food from farmers at gunpoint.

--
....I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...

- The Who

In article >,
says...
>
>"Fudge" > wrote in
>
>> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
>> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
>> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
>> dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
>> upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00
>> if you can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and
>> anarchy will prevail.

"And it's just another day in Paradise..."

>> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain
>> subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?
>>
>> Farmer John
>>
>This belongs in misc.survivalism, where I'm sure there are people who
>will be only too happy to answer your question in more detail than you're
>likely to want.

(cracks knuckles)

You betcha!

>Also, google for urban agriculture.
>
>And if there's an sf bookstore in your area, they will have a good many
>books which deal with survival conditions which you've probably never
>thought of -- fatal collisions between universes, the literal death of
>God, an ill-advised decision to give cats human-level intelligence....

Why would we want to bring cats down to our level? ^_^

Anyway, as for surviving The End of The World As We Know It
(whether you're feeling fine or otherwise...)

Everyone should have enough supplies to survive at least
3 - 7 days if you've completely cut off and all utilities
fail. This is not paranoid lunatic raving; rather, it
is the minimum recommended by both FEMA and the Red Cross.
In fact, on their websites, both of these organizations
have checklists of things it is good to have in emergency
that you can download and follow to prepare an excellent
cache of survival supplies that may mean the difference
between being comfortable instead of miserable. Not to
mention life, or the alternative...

Longer term, many people - and not just those who belong
to the Latterday Saints - store food in large quantities.
This can be preserved garden produce, a full pantry (rice,
beans, fruits and vegetables and meals in cans), or even
dried grains in buckets. You can last a long time on
those.

Even longer term, intense gardening/farming (as long as
you have the water for it), hunting and fishing (although
this may not be very successful, since a lot of hungry
people are going to be out searching for food. This is
why those whose planning consists solely of running for
the hills may be in trouble, because that what LOTS of
people apparently plan to do. And there are only so
many hills out there...), and gathering (wild edible
plants, insects, worms (fried worms definately do NOT
taste like chicken)...): With such techniques, you
can withstand a LOT of trouble.

Assuming somebody more desperate doesn't shoot and eat
YOU...

FW

Steve Calvin > wrote in
s.com:

> Nancy Young wrote:
>> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
>>
>>
>>>>By ignoring idiots like you?
>>
>>
>>>We could all eat fudge.
>>>
>>>Boron
>>
>>
>> Now, there's a plan!
>>
>> (laugh) nancy
>
> but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>
>
Come the revolution....


--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://dsgood.blogspot.com or
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

Steve Calvin wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:
> > Boron Elgar wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
> >
> >
> >>>By ignoring idiots like you?
> >
> >
> >>We could all eat fudge.
> >>
> >>Boron
> >
> >
> > Now, there's a plan!
> >
> > (laugh) nancy
>
> but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>
>
> --
> Steve

There's one in every crowd! Okay, you have something not as good.

nancy (wants to set the record straight that I most assuredly not
call Boron an idiot)

Nancy Young wrote:

> Steve Calvin wrote:
>
>>Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
>>>
>>>
>>>>>By ignoring idiots like you?
>>>
>>>
>>>>We could all eat fudge.
>>>>
>>>>Boron
>>>
>>>
>>>Now, there's a plan!
>>>
>>>(laugh) nancy
>>
>>but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>
>>
>>--
>>Steve
>
>
> There's one in every crowd! Okay, you have something not as good.
>
> nancy (wants to set the record straight that I most assuredly not
> call Boron an idiot)

k, cool. I'll take pizza and beer! :-)))

--
Steve

Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

>- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
>waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
>late 70's?).

1973

Remove TIE to reply.

http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-billslitterbox

Bill Reynolds wrote:

>>- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
>>waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
>>late 70's?).
>
>
> 1973
>
> Remove TIE to reply.
>
> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-billslitterbox

Yup. I was in tech. school in Pittsburgh. Remember the gas line
parties well. (Well, most of 'em) ;-)

--
Steve

Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

In article >, Bill Reynolds
> wrote:

> >- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
> >waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
> >late 70's?).
>
> 1973
>

1973 AND 1979, when the Iranian oil shortage happened (hostage crisis,
etc.).

I was in gas lines in both of these years.


--Tim May

"Tim May" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Bill Reynolds
> > wrote:
>
> > >- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
> > >waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
> > >late 70's?).
> >
> > 1973
> >
>
> 1973 AND 1979, when the Iranian oil shortage happened (hostage crisis,
> etc.).
>
> I was in gas lines in both of these years.

I remember the 1979 ones. They were not all that bad where I was (Chicago),
and never seriously affected me. I was out a lot at night and found no
lines at all night gas stations at 3 am.

>
>
> --Tim May

Bill Reynolds wrote:
>
> >- I have observed the nastiness and the general PITA involved in
> >waiting in gasoline lines during the gasoline crunch of the (was it
> >late 70's?).
>
> 1973

Well, I waited in plenty of gas lines and that was before I was of
driving age. It was in the neighborhood of '78, '79.

nancy

"Steve Calvin" > wrote in message
s.com...
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > Steve Calvin wrote:
> >
> >>Nancy Young wrote:
> >>
> >>>Boron Elgar wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:15:26 -0500, Nancy Young
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>By ignoring idiots like you?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>We could all eat fudge.
> >>>>
> >>>>Boron
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Now, there's a plan!
> >>>
> >>>(laugh) nancy
> >>
> >>but, but, but... Idunlike fudge! <sniff> <g>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Steve
> >
> >
> > There's one in every crowd! Okay, you have something not as good.
> >
> > nancy (wants to set the record straight that I most assuredly not
> > call Boron an idiot)
>
> k, cool. I'll take pizza and beer! :-)))
>
> --
> Steve
>
> Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.
>

I second the pizza and beer!

Kilikini

Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> Fudge wrote:
> >
> > O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble.
> > Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are you
> > going to survive?
>
> By ignoring idiots like you?
>
> nancy

Eh, He's probably one of those folks who thought Y2K would represent
"the end of life as we know it" complete with airplanes falling out of
the sky. I agree the economy is in trouble, however, we've been in
trouble before. Assuming we last so long, I plan to help Dubya make an
important career change next Election Day.

Now please pass the fudge. =o)

Melissa

Melissa Houle wrote:
>
> Nancy Young > wrote in message

> > By ignoring idiots like you?

> Eh, He's probably one of those folks who thought Y2K would represent
> "the end of life as we know it" complete with airplanes falling out of
> the sky.

(laugh) And you'd better be prepared to barricade yourself and fend
off the neighbors from stealing your food, by arming yourself.
Well, it was good for a laugh.

nancy

Laugh you bunch of *******s and pray to whatever God you deem appropriate
that I am wrong. As a dry run, switch off your electrical power next Friday,
lock your doors and stay away from the supermarket. Let me know how you feel
on Monday morning.

Farmer John

Dan Goodman > wrote in message >. ..
> "Fudge" > wrote in
>
> > O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> > dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> > Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
> > dollar debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic
> > upheaval is possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00
> > if you can find it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and
> > anarchy will prevail. Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain
> > subsistent eaters, how are you going to survive?
> >
> > Farmer John
> >

(Yawn) Same old alarmist BS.

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame74.html

Claims similar to these have been made for the last 30 yrs I can be
sure of.

Actually, I'd guess the regulars in the cooking ng would have much
less trouble than average, only a little more than the misc.rural
crowd.

Winston §mith > wrote in
:

> On 3 Jan 2004 17:11:37 -0800, (Offbreed)
> wrote:
>
>>(Yawn) Same old alarmist BS.
>>
>>http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame74.html
>>
>>Claims similar to these have been made for the last 30 yrs I can be
>>sure of.
>>
> I once thought of starting a collection of all the "How to survive the
> great collapse of 19xx" books. After all you can get then for a
> nickel or a quarter at yard sales and there are LOTS of them.
>
> They all say the same thing and it hasn't happened for at least your
> 30 years.
>
> I laid down for a few minutes and the urge passed. I'm fine now.,

Near the other extreme is this: BIRKENHEAD, Frederick Edwin Smith, Earl
of. The World in 2030 A.D. London, Hodder & Stoughton, 1930. It predicts
continued prosperity. It explains why, in the unlikely event of another
general war in Europe, it will be conducted in a much more civilized
manner than the Great War.



--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://dsgood.blogspot.com or
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

In article >, Dan Goodman
> wrote:

> Near the other extreme is this: BIRKENHEAD, Frederick Edwin Smith, Earl
> of. The World in 2030 A.D. London, Hodder & Stoughton, 1930. It predicts
> continued prosperity. It explains why, in the unlikely event of another
> general war in Europe, it will be conducted in a much more civilized
> manner than the Great War.

And in important ways, it was. The Second World War, that is.

Point: No poison gas was used. No germ warfare. Very little of the ugly
trench warfare of WW I.

Point: The Jews, being devout pacifists and victim disarmament
fanatics, went quietly and politely to their fates. They struggled
almost not at all, and the trains ran on time to the camps.

Point: Nuclear annihilation of enemy cities was generally cleanly done,
cauterizing the enemy cities.

Point: Tens of millions of Communists in the U.S.S.R. were destroyed.

A fairly clean war.


--Tim May

During the WW2, we had victory gardens, and food rationing......after we
had $52-20....$80 per month, for the family so the vets could go to
college. Let's not forget, that earlier, we had come through a major
depression, without government assistance. Did the Americans cry POOR!
I think not....families worked together, hard enough to spoil a couple
of generations and empower some heathen politicians to foist nutty
solutions like the, " politically incorrect " philosophy. This is not a
rage.....it is a comment.

Just a Jeanie

(Jean Clarke) wrote in news:23002-3FF7D045-6@storefull-
3192.bay.webtv.net:

> During the WW2, we had victory gardens, and food rationing......after we
> had $52-20....$80 per month, for the family so the vets could go to
> college. Let's not forget, that earlier, we had come through a major
> depression, without government assistance. Did the Americans cry POOR!

A lot of them did. Rightwing and leftwing radical movements flourished.

> I think not....families worked together, hard enough to spoil a couple
> of generations and empower some heathen politicians to foist nutty
> solutions like the, " politically incorrect " philosophy.

The problem with the terms "politically incorrect" and "politically
correct" is that they're only applied to people who are left of what the
speaker/writer considers to be the middle of the political spectrum. The
same attitude isn't exactly uncommon on the right.

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://dsgood.blogspot.com or
http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.

"Fudge" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
dollar
> debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
> possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
> it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are
you
> going to survive?
>
> Farmer John
>
>


Shoot the idiots for food-like you.

>"Fudge" > wrote in message
...
>> O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
>> dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
>> Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
>dollar
>> debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
>> possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can find
>> it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will prevail.
>> Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are
>you
>> going to survive?
>>
>> Farmer John

Haven't there been a whole series of books and prognostications about
total disasters just around the corner for decades? Or centuries, come
to that. Remember all the red faces after the Y2K collapse didn't
happen and people had basements stuffed with MREs? A friend's father
turned his fallout shelter into a wine-making operation. *Much* more
sensible. :-)

On 5 Jan 2004 03:38:27 GMT, Ignoramus18675 >
wrote:

(snip)
>The Germans also were not resisting the savage Russian occupation,
>either. Millions of them were raped and most of them were robbed by
>the Russians. They, more or less, did not resist en masse. Like sheep,
>they were brutalized, raped and humiliated by the Russian soldiers.
>
>Think about it.

According to the history books the Russians were just returning the favor to the
Germans, since many of their people were treated the same way earlier.

It is easier to fight for our principles than to live up to them.-Alfred Adler

In article >, lid
says...
>
>In article >, Tim May wrote:
>> In article >, Dan Goodman
> wrote:
>>
>>> Near the other extreme is this: BIRKENHEAD, Frederick Edwin Smith, Earl
>>> of. The World in 2030 A.D. London, Hodder & Stoughton, 1930. It
predicts
>>> continued prosperity. It explains why, in the unlikely event of another
>>> general war in Europe, it will be conducted in a much more civilized
>>> manner than the Great War.
>>
>> And in important ways, it was. The Second World War, that is.
>>
>> Point: No poison gas was used. No germ warfare. Very little of the ugly
>> trench warfare of WW I.
>
>Entire cities were firebombed. Nuclear weapons were used. Millions of
>civilians were destroyed. Poison gas was used actually, to murder
>millions, or at least hundreds of thousands, of people.
>
>> Point: The Jews, being devout pacifists and victim disarmament
>> fanatics, went quietly and politely to their fates. They struggled
>> almost not at all, and the trains ran on time to the camps.
>
>The Germans also were not resisting the savage Russian occupation,
>either. Millions of them were raped and most of them were robbed by
>the Russians. They, more or less, did not resist en masse. Like sheep,
>they were brutalized, raped and humiliated by the Russian soldiers.
>
>Think about it.
>
>i

Actually, German troops - including the home guard of old men and
children - fought the Soviets for almost every foot of German
soil. And many German civilians fled westward in advance of the
Russian troops, trying to get to the American/British lines...

Many also committed suicide rather than face Soviet occupation.

FW

On 5 Jan 2004 14:59:53 GMT, Ignoramus32269
> wrote:

>
>In fact, the only peoples who resisted Germans in effective guerrilla
>movement, to the best of my knowledge, were the Russians/Belorussians
>and the Serbs.

While not on the scale of the Serbs, the Greeks and the Dutch also did
a bit of 'creative warfare' against the Germans...

ck
--
country doc in louisiana
(no fancy sayings right now)

> wrote in message
...
> In rec.food.cooking, Fudge > wrote:
> > O.K. trendsetters, the U.S. economy is in trouble. The dollar is
> > dropping, factories are closing, several states are flat busted broke,
> > Arnold is governor of California, the U.S. treasury has a 6 trillion
dollar
> > debt and Bush just might get re-elected. Massive economic upheaval is
> > possible. A jar of Skippy Peanut butter may cost $1,000.00 if you can
find
> > it. Huge mobs will be foraging for food and fuel and anarchy will
prevail.
> > Now, all you foodies, gourmets and just plain subsistent eaters, how are
you
> > going to survive?
>
> > Farmer John
>
> I'm going to steal food from farmers at gunpoint.
>

That will work a few times, until the farmers get wise
and start laying ambushes for you. Better you should
find a farmer and set up a defense network for him.
He does his job in peace & safety, and you get to
eat today, and next week as well.

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