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Terry Pulliam Burd
 
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On 10 Sep 2004 12:51:24 -0500, "Bob" >
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

>Peter asked:
>
>> > There's no rabbit in Welsh rabbit; it's cheese.
>> >

>>
>> But it's rarebit, not rabbit, isn't it?

>
>Its original name was "Welsh rabbit," being a slur on poor Welsh people. The
>term "rarebit" was coined later in an attempt to make the dish more
>politically correct (although this was LONG before the PC movement of
>today).


Have a look:

"Welsh Rarebit, Rabbit or 'Caws Pobi' gets its name quite literally
from the words rare (meaning very lightly cooked) and bit (a small
piece or portion)."

(from http://www.cuisinedumonde.com/rarebit.html)

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"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

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Bob
 
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Peter asked:

> > There's no rabbit in Welsh rabbit; it's cheese.
> >

>
> But it's rarebit, not rabbit, isn't it?


Its original name was "Welsh rabbit," being a slur on poor Welsh people. The
term "rarebit" was coined later in an attempt to make the dish more
politically correct (although this was LONG before the PC movement of
today).

Bob


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>Okay, I'll play:
>
>There's no rabbit in Welsh rabbit; it's cheese.
>
>
>gloria p


The more sophisticated say "Welch Rarebit". Served on toast topped with a
poached egg it becomes "Golden Buck".


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previously in rfc, "zuuum" > wrote:

> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana
> restaurant.



I find this hard to believe, but when we were on a tour of Yale this summer
looking at colleges for my son, the tour guide told us that the hamburger
was invented in New Haven! Supposedly you get kicked out of the restaurant
if you ask for ketchup.

A quick search online shows quite a few different claims of the hamburger
creation....

-Claudia


>
> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.
>
>
>


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I was watching a show on the history of food on the History Channel and they
discussed the fact that Chop Suey was not invented in China or the orient but
rather in the United States. It's been a couple years since I watched that
show, but IIRC it was an oriental guy who owned a restaurant in San Francisco
in the late 19th or early 20th century and came up with this dish that had a
little bit of everything in it.

This show also mentioned that Alfredo Sauce was created in the US. Apparently,
the actor Douglas Fairbanks used to eat at some restaurant in LA (it may have
been the Brown Derby), and whenever he ate there, he had the cook make him a
special dish which consisted of spaghetti noodles or linguine, tossed with a
sauce made of melted butter and parmesan cheese. After a while, other patrons
wanted to try this dish and it was put on the menu. At some point not long
after, one of the cooks hit on the idea of adding cream to the butter and
parmesan mixture and the result was Alfredo Sauce.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".


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Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>
> I was watching a show on the history of food on the History Channel and they
> discussed the fact that Chop Suey was not invented in China or the orient but
> rather in the United States. It's been a couple years since I watched that
> show, but IIRC it was an oriental guy who owned a restaurant in San Francisco
> in the late 19th or early 20th century and came up with this dish that had a
> little bit of everything in it.
>
> This show also mentioned that Alfredo Sauce was created in the US. Apparently,
> the actor Douglas Fairbanks used to eat at some restaurant in LA (it may have
> been the Brown Derby), and whenever he ate there, he had the cook make him a
> special dish which consisted of spaghetti noodles or linguine, tossed with a
> sauce made of melted butter and parmesan cheese. After a while, other patrons
> wanted to try this dish and it was put on the menu. At some point not long
> after, one of the cooks hit on the idea of adding cream to the butter and
> parmesan mixture and the result was Alfredo Sauce.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>
> "The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
> proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
> James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".


You just had to do it, didn't you, Michael???? lol

Hope your asbestos suit holds up.

Boli
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Bolivar wrote:

>> This show also mentioned that Alfredo Sauce was created in the US.
>> Apparently, the actor Douglas Fairbanks used to eat at some restaurant
>> in LA (it may have been the Brown Derby), and whenever he ate there, he
>> had the cook make him a special dish which consisted of spaghetti noodles
>> or linguine, tossed with a sauce made of melted butter and parmesan
>> cheese. After a while, other patrons wanted to try this dish and it was
>> put on the menu. At some point not long after, one of the cooks hit on
>> the idea of adding cream to the butter and parmesan mixture and the
>> result was Alfredo Sauce.
>>
>> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

>
>
> You just had to do it, didn't you, Michael???? lol
>
> Hope your asbestos suit holds up.



I don't think Michael would get flamed for talking about the origin of
Alfredo SAUCE. Just as long as he doesn't claim any link between his
hazily-recalled television dish and Fettuccine Alfredo (because, as we all
know, Fettuccine Alfredo isn't made with "Alfredo Sauce" any more than Baked
Alaska is made with "Alaska Sauce".)

Bob


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"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> Bolivar wrote:
>
> >> This show also mentioned that Alfredo Sauce was created in the US.
> >> Apparently, the actor Douglas Fairbanks used to eat at some restaurant
> >> in LA (it may have been the Brown Derby), and whenever he ate there, he
> >> had the cook make him a special dish which consisted of spaghetti

noodles
> >> or linguine, tossed with a sauce made of melted butter and parmesan
> >> cheese. After a while, other patrons wanted to try this dish and it

was
> >> put on the menu. At some point not long after, one of the cooks hit on
> >> the idea of adding cream to the butter and parmesan mixture and the
> >> result was Alfredo Sauce.
> >>
> >> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

> >
> >
> > You just had to do it, didn't you, Michael???? lol
> >
> > Hope your asbestos suit holds up.

>
>
> I don't think Michael would get flamed for talking about the origin of
> Alfredo SAUCE. Just as long as he doesn't claim any link between his
> hazily-recalled television dish and Fettuccine Alfredo (because, as we all
> know, Fettuccine Alfredo isn't made with "Alfredo Sauce" any more than

Baked
> Alaska is made with "Alaska Sauce".)
>
> Bob


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I was watching a show on the history of food on the History Channel and they
discussed the fact that Chop Suey was not invented in China or the orient but
rather in the United States. It's been a couple years since I watched that
show, but IIRC it was an oriental guy who owned a restaurant in San Francisco
in the late 19th or early 20th century and came up with this dish that had a
little bit of everything in it.

This show also mentioned that Alfredo Sauce was created in the US. Apparently,
the actor Douglas Fairbanks used to eat at some restaurant in LA (it may have
been the Brown Derby), and whenever he ate there, he had the cook make him a
special dish which consisted of spaghetti noodles or linguine, tossed with a
sauce made of melted butter and parmesan cheese. After a while, other patrons
wanted to try this dish and it was put on the menu. At some point not long
after, one of the cooks hit on the idea of adding cream to the butter and
parmesan mixture and the result was Alfredo Sauce.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".
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zuuum wrote:

> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana restaurant.
>


True, but he was an Italian. ;-)

--
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darkness?



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zuuum wrote:
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> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana restaurant.
>
> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.




Okay, I'll play:

There's no rabbit in Welsh rabbit; it's cheese.


gloria p
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zuuum wrote:
> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana restaurant.



And if the Mexican restauranteur's first name was Caesar, what's so odd?

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previously in rfc, "zuuum" > wrote:

> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana
> restaurant.



I find this hard to believe, but when we were on a tour of Yale this summer
looking at colleges for my son, the tour guide told us that the hamburger
was invented in New Haven! Supposedly you get kicked out of the restaurant
if you ask for ketchup.

A quick search online shows quite a few different claims of the hamburger
creation....

-Claudia


>
> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.
>
>
>


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zuuum wrote:

> Odd food origins welcome -
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> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana restaurant.


Named after Italian Caesar Cardini who invented it. Julia Child used
to eat at his restaurant and knew him when she was young. Spoke warmly
about him.

> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.


"Butt" used to just mean "end." So it's the end of the forequarter.

And how about "pate a chou" that has nothing to do with cabbage...

Pastorio


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zuuum wrote:

> Odd food origins welcome -
>
> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana restaurant.
>


True, but he was an Italian. ;-)

--
Steve

If the speed of light is 186,000 miles/sec., what's the speed of
darkness?



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Butt the name I grew up with was Boston butt.

"zuuum" > wrote in message
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> Odd food origins welcome -
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> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana
> restaurant.
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> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.
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"GoombaP" > wrote in news:cij8aa$s64$1
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> Butt the name I grew up with was Boston butt.
>
> "zuuum" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Odd food origins welcome -
>>
>> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana
>> restaurant.
>>
>> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.


There are a lot of butts in Boston. :-)

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Wayne wrote:
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> "GoombaP" > wrote in news:cij8aa$s64$1


> >> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.

>
> There are a lot of butts in Boston. :-)


And many of them are seriously ****ED OFF right now.

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Wayne wrote:
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> "GoombaP" > wrote in news:cij8aa$s64$1


> >> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.

>
> There are a lot of butts in Boston. :-)


And many of them are seriously ****ED OFF right now.

nancy
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Wayne wrote:
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> "GoombaP" > wrote in news:cij8aa$s64$1


> >> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.

>
> There are a lot of butts in Boston. :-)


And many of them are seriously ****ED OFF right now.

nancy
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Butt the name I grew up with was Boston butt.

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> The "Caesar" salad, uses Romaine lettuce, was born in a Tijuana
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> Pork "butt" is actually the shoulder of a pig.
>





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