"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 04:30:58 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
> [snip]
>> Depends on the restaurant, I guess. When I cashed
>> out every night they would calculate my tips on the
>> spot based on the sales and make a record of it. It
>> was deducted from the meager base paycheck I got
>> for my under "tips and other compensation".
>
> So? That's just a step-saver and kind of convenient. If you weren't
> making enough money to work there, it wasn't the customers' or
> managements' faults. Look in the mirror.
>
>> A lot of servers are high school or college kids who
>> wouldn't even *think* to keep up with their tips for
>> tax reporting the next year.
>
> Age is such a stupid excuse for not keeping records... Why not peg
> it for what it really was; sheer laziness.
>
> The Ranger
================

Umm... not necessarily. Those that work the breakfast and into lunch crowds
aren't always tipped as considered 'standard'. A lot of times, no matter
what the bill amounted to, I used to have customers that tipped $ 1.00.
Especially some of the elderly customers - and they were the ones that ran
your butt off! I always kept track of my tips and there was one year that I
made $ 50.00 (actually $ 47. and some change) less than what my tax
statement said I did... not worth fighting the restaurant for that. When I
was able to switch to the dinner crowds - tips dramatically changed.

Cyndi

"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
4...
[snip]
>>> Yep. And of course there are the restaurants that will not issue
>>> separate checks for large parties. What a pain in the ass it is for
>>> the kitchen.
>>>
[snip].
>
> It depends on the restaurant. Separate checks will put a kitchen into
> turmoil on a busy night. Denying separate checks is actually beneficial to
> the diner. If the party insists on separate checks, the kitchen may not
> get
> their food to the table at the same time. It does happen.
>
I am glad someone mentioned that. Seperate checks for a table of 8-12 on a
night of 300 covers isn't such a good idea from the line's view. Sure the
table number is on there... but hey.

Oh, for the days of "table dote"!

"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
4...
[snip]
>>> Yep. And of course there are the restaurants that will not issue
>>> separate checks for large parties. What a pain in the ass it is for
>>> the kitchen.
>>>
[snip].
>
> It depends on the restaurant. Separate checks will put a kitchen into
> turmoil on a busy night. Denying separate checks is actually beneficial to
> the diner. If the party insists on separate checks, the kitchen may not
> get
> their food to the table at the same time. It does happen.
>
I am glad someone mentioned that. Seperate checks for a table of 8-12 on a
night of 300 covers isn't such a good idea from the line's view. Sure the
table number is on there... but hey.

Oh, for the days of "table dote"!

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:19:34 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like
this:

>"Wayne" > wrote in message
...

>> What really frosts me is the "tip cup" or jar or whatever, that one finds
>> at the register in places like coffee shops, donut shops, etc., where all
>> the clerk (I hestitate to say "server") did was pour a beverage or fill a
>> container with food and hand it to you. What the hell should they be
>> tipped for? All they did was their job, no more...no less.
>>
>> --
>
>I agree 100%. These people are not paid less than minimum wage, as are
>waiters. I have never put so much as a cent in one of those jars.

Yahbut, where I work, the only handy place to get a sandwich, soup or
a bagel, for instance, is a coffee shop around the corner. I'm in
there so often that the staff knows me by name, not to mention sight,
and I can't help but think that if I don't put in a token tip every
now and then that what happens to my sandwich might not bear
examination. Paranoid, quite possibly, but hey! This is Newport Beach
by Balboa Island where people are a tad odd.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:19:34 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like
this:

>"Wayne" > wrote in message
...

>> What really frosts me is the "tip cup" or jar or whatever, that one finds
>> at the register in places like coffee shops, donut shops, etc., where all
>> the clerk (I hestitate to say "server") did was pour a beverage or fill a
>> container with food and hand it to you. What the hell should they be
>> tipped for? All they did was their job, no more...no less.
>>
>> --
>
>I agree 100%. These people are not paid less than minimum wage, as are
>waiters. I have never put so much as a cent in one of those jars.

Yahbut, where I work, the only handy place to get a sandwich, soup or
a bagel, for instance, is a coffee shop around the corner. I'm in
there so often that the staff knows me by name, not to mention sight,
and I can't help but think that if I don't put in a token tip every
now and then that what happens to my sandwich might not bear
examination. Paranoid, quite possibly, but hey! This is Newport Beach
by Balboa Island where people are a tad odd.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Duncan Hines

To reply, remove replace "spaminator" with "cox"

In article > ,
dognospam@adjfkdla says...
> notbob > news:5h91d.181567$mD.110567@attbi_s02:
>
> > On 2004-09-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
> >
> >> tip for three people. I hid money under my plate to make up for it.
> >
> > I can relate, Nancy. I can't count the number of times I've left a
> > covert tip to make up for the inconsiderate scrub I've discovered, too
> > late, I've made the mistake of dining with.
> >
> > nb
> >
>
> Same here. There are people out there that are just cheap. I stopped dining
> out with 2 friends because they were immediately belligerant and always
> stiffed the waiter after running them all night. The friends would bitch
> all evening about one thing or another. They are fine people but sort of
> turn when they sit down at a table in a restaurant. Every time I dined out
> with them I had to sneak money to the waiter or hide it under my plate.
>
> Michael
>
I've always believed that you can tell a lot about a person by how they
treat wait staff.


--
Donna
A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist hopes they are.

In article > ,
dognospam@adjfkdla says...
> notbob > news:5h91d.181567$mD.110567@attbi_s02:
>
> > On 2004-09-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
> >
> >> tip for three people. I hid money under my plate to make up for it.
> >
> > I can relate, Nancy. I can't count the number of times I've left a
> > covert tip to make up for the inconsiderate scrub I've discovered, too
> > late, I've made the mistake of dining with.
> >
> > nb
> >
>
> Same here. There are people out there that are just cheap. I stopped dining
> out with 2 friends because they were immediately belligerant and always
> stiffed the waiter after running them all night. The friends would bitch
> all evening about one thing or another. They are fine people but sort of
> turn when they sit down at a table in a restaurant. Every time I dined out
> with them I had to sneak money to the waiter or hide it under my plate.
>
> Michael
>
I've always believed that you can tell a lot about a person by how they
treat wait staff.


--
Donna
A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist hopes they are.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:56:49 GMT, "Rick & Cyndi"
> wrote:
> "The Ranger" > wrote in message ...
> > On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 04:30:58 -0500, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > Depends on the restaurant, I guess. When I cashed
> > > out every night they would calculate my tips on the
> > > spot based on the sales and make a record of it. It
> > > was deducted from the meager base paycheck I got
> > > for my under "tips and other compensation".
> > >
> > So? That's just a step-saver and kind of convenient. If
> > you weren't making enough money to work there, it
> > wasn't the customers' or managements' faults. Look
> > in the mirror.
> >
> > > A lot of servers are high school or college kids who
> > > wouldn't even *think* to keep up with their tips for
> > > tax reporting the next year.
> > >
> > Age is such a stupid excuse for not keeping records...
> > Why not peg it for what it really was; sheer laziness.
> >
> Umm... not necessarily. Those that work the breakfast
> and into lunch crowds aren't always tipped as considered
> 'standard'. A lot of times, no matter what the bill amounted
> to, I used to have customers that tipped $ 1.00. Especially
> some of the elderly customers - and they were the ones
> that ran your butt off! I always kept track of my tips and
> there was one year that I made $ 50.00 (actually $ 47.
> and some change) less than what my tax statement said
> I did... not worth fighting the restaurant for that. When I
> was able to switch to the dinner crowds - tips dramatically
> changed.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I have worked both and, yes, the
breakfast shaft can be pretty grim at times -- especially when the
restaurant is courting the silver-n-gray brigade. I was lucky in
both night and morning shifts. People asked for me and tipped me
well enough to support my college addiction and sport car habits.

But you also kept records and that drives my point home.

Allowing someone to claim age as a reason for not keeping records
is sheer laziness and reason for an audit.

The Ranger

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Dog3 wrote:
> >
> > notbob > news:5h91d.181567$mD.110567@attbi_s02:
> >
> > > On 2004-09-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
> > >
> > >> tip for three people. I hid money under my plate to make up for it.
> > >
> > > I can relate, Nancy. I can't count the number of times I've left a
> > > covert tip to make up for the inconsiderate scrub I've discovered, too
> > > late, I've made the mistake of dining with.
>
> > Same here. There are people out there that are just cheap.
>
> That's him, this guy is just plain cheap. He was loaded, I know how
> much he made at work, and he sold his side business, a chain of pc
> stores, for a ton of money. Like, I would have paid for lunch if
> I knew he was going to leave a quarter.
>

I'm with you. There's something nasty about cheap people, particularly when
they are well-off. What's the point of having money if you cannot enjoy
being generous? There is, of course, a huge difference between cheap and
thrifty.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Dog3 wrote:
> >
> > notbob > news:5h91d.181567$mD.110567@attbi_s02:
> >
> > > On 2004-09-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
> > >
> > >> tip for three people. I hid money under my plate to make up for it.
> > >
> > > I can relate, Nancy. I can't count the number of times I've left a
> > > covert tip to make up for the inconsiderate scrub I've discovered, too
> > > late, I've made the mistake of dining with.
>
> > Same here. There are people out there that are just cheap.
>
> That's him, this guy is just plain cheap. He was loaded, I know how
> much he made at work, and he sold his side business, a chain of pc
> stores, for a ton of money. Like, I would have paid for lunch if
> I knew he was going to leave a quarter.
>

I'm with you. There's something nasty about cheap people, particularly when
they are well-off. What's the point of having money if you cannot enjoy
being generous? There is, of course, a huge difference between cheap and
thrifty.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message

> > That's him, this guy is just plain cheap. He was loaded, I know how
> > much he made at work, and he sold his side business, a chain of pc
> > stores, for a ton of money. Like, I would have paid for lunch if
> > I knew he was going to leave a quarter.

> I'm with you. There's something nasty about cheap people, particularly when
> they are well-off. What's the point of having money if you cannot enjoy
> being generous?

Ditto. I find that people who are cheap with their money are cheap
personally, if that makes any sense.

> There is, of course, a huge difference between cheap and
> thrifty.

Without a doubt. I'm pretty thrify, but no one would ever describe
me as cheap. Hey, I buy groceries when they're on sale, like that.

nancy

Dog3 wrote:
>
> Kate Connally > :
> >
> > What I can't figure out is how he got away without
> > paying the gratuity. In my experience when there is
> > a mandatory gratuity (usually 12% when I've come across
> > it - if I'd seen 18% I'da got up and walked out without
> > ordering) for a large party they add it into the bill
> > for you. So when they present the bill it's already
> > included in the total. Only thing you could do would
> > be to just leave the cash on the table and walk out
> > without waiting for the waiter to come pick up the
> > check and money or cards. You definitely couldn't do
> > it if you were using a credit card. If the restaurant
> > is not adding it into the bill then I would say that
> > you shouldn't have to pay it if the service was bad.
> >
> > Kate
>
> I don't think anyone said it wasn't added to the bill did they? I don't
> remember that part.

I don't believe it said one way or the other. So I was
speculating on how they could get away with not paying it
and leave the restaurant before it was noticed, as that
appears to be what happened. In my experience it is always
added to the bill, so if that's the case and the waiter
comes and takes the bill and the cash or credit card and
goes to ring it up, in the case of cash he/she would see
right away that they did not get enough money to cover the
bill.

So, if it was added into the bill the only way you could
get away without paying it would be if they brought the bill
to the table and left it there, planning to come back in a
few minutes to take the payment, and the dining party just
threw cash on the table to cover the actual meal plus a
small tip (the article said about 10%) and walked out.

If they had waited for the served to return and take their
payment and the payment was less than the total on the
check, then something would have been said at that time,
I would think, and it wouldn't have come to having to chase
them down the street and arrest them, which is what happened
to the best of my recollection. Anyway, that's what I was
getting at.

But if it wasn't added to the bill then they could
have paid by credit card or cash and then left a smaller
tip than they were supposed to have done and just walked
out before it was noted.

> Why would you walk out for the 18% gratuity? Just
> curious.

Well, because it's one thing if the management wants
to make sure that a large party doesn't end up stiffing
the waiter by adding a "service charge" or mandatory
"gratuity" if it's the customary 15% or less (many places
I've been to only charge 12% and you make up the difference
to the !5% or higher if you think the service was worth
it. But I think 18% is too high. I don't even like the
mandatory 15% or even the 12% because there have been
many times when the service was not worth it and I would
have liked to leave a smaller amount. (Yeah, I know I
can talk to the manager, etc., but I don't always want
to take the time and hassle of dealing with that.) Anyway,
I grudgingly accept the lower % but 18% is off the wall as
far as I am concerned.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

zxcvbob wrote:
>
> Puester wrote:
> > Pan Ohco wrote:
> >
> >
> >>If six people are sitting at the table, they each order separately,
> >>and ask for separate checks, are they required to pay the large party
> >>mandated tip?
> >>
> >>Pan Ohco
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > They should have to pay double the tip, just for the aggravation.
> >
> > gloria p
>
> They should ask for 6 separate tables to avoid the "service charge".
>
> Bob

You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)

Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Dog3 wrote:
>
> "Peter Aitken" >
> m:
>
> >> I wrote:
> >> Yep. And of course there are the restaurants that will not issue
> >> separate checks for large parties. What a pain in the ass it is for
> >> the kitchen.
> >>
> >
> > Yes - what a ridiculous notion that a business should put itself out
> > for its customers.
>
> It depends on the restaurant. Separate checks will put a kitchen into
> turmoil on a busy night. Denying separate checks is actually beneficial to
> the diner. If the party insists on separate checks, the kitchen may not get
> their food to the table at the same time. It does happen.

I'll take my chances. Even when you don't have separate
checks, it all too often happens that your food doesn't
get there at the same time. How much worse could it get?

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally wrote:
>
> Well, because it's one thing if the management wants to make sure
> that a large party doesn't end up stiffing the waiter by adding a
> "service charge" or mandatory "gratuity" if it's the customary 15% or
> less (many places I've been to only charge 12% and you make up the
> difference to the !5% or higher if you think the service was worth
> it. But I think 18% is too high. I don't even like the mandatory
> 15% or even the 12% because there have been many times when the
> service was not worth it and I would have liked to leave a smaller
> amount. (Yeah, I know I can talk to the manager, etc., but I don't
> always want to take the time and hassle of dealing with that.)
> Anyway, I grudgingly accept the lower % but 18% is off the wall as
> far as I am concerned.
>
> Kate
>

We're assuming the management actually gives that service charge to the
servers instead of stiffing them.

Bob

Kate Connally wroteossible

> What I can't figure out is how he got away without
> paying the gratuity. In my experience when there is
> a mandatory gratuity

There is no such think as a mandatory gratuity. It is an oxymoron. A gratuity is
something given voluntarily.

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Oh, while we're at it, why the hell should a server have to share tips with
> the bus-boys and bar-backs who make at least minimum wage or more? Servers
> are paid sub-human wages and rely on the good graces of the customers to make
> up the difference.

It can get worse. My nephew was a chef at a restaurant in a tourist town where
close to half of the restaurants and hotels are owned by one person. He
appreciated that wait staff shared tips with the chefs and bus people, but not
at all impressed that the owner took a share of the tips too.

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Oh, while we're at it, why the hell should a server have to share tips with
> the bus-boys and bar-backs who make at least minimum wage or more? Servers
> are paid sub-human wages and rely on the good graces of the customers to make
> up the difference.

It can get worse. My nephew was a chef at a restaurant in a tourist town where
close to half of the restaurants and hotels are owned by one person. He
appreciated that wait staff shared tips with the chefs and bus people, but not
at all impressed that the owner took a share of the tips too.

jmcquown wrote:

>
> Oh, while we're at it, why the hell should a server have to share tips with
> the bus-boys and bar-backs who make at least minimum wage or more? Servers
> are paid sub-human wages and rely on the good graces of the customers to make
> up the difference.

It can get worse. My nephew was a chef at a restaurant in a tourist town where
close to half of the restaurants and hotels are owned by one person. He
appreciated that wait staff shared tips with the chefs and bus people, but not
at all impressed that the owner took a share of the tips too.

Kate Connally wrote:

> You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>
> Kate

That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
years to come.
Goomba

Kate Connally wrote:

> You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>
> Kate

That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
years to come.
Goomba

So what, no ****in' ziti?

So what, no ****in' ziti?

So what, no ****in' ziti?

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Kate Connally wrote:
>
> > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
> >
> > Kate
>
> That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
> own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
> whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
> resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
> years to come.

Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
me into doing it their way.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> Goomba38 wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally wrote:
> >
> > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
> > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
> > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
> > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
> > years to come.
>
> Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
> being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
> ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
> wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
> have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
> separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
> Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
> Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
> And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
> food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
> the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
> actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
> me into doing it their way.
>
> Kate
>
> --

The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can "do it
their way."


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> Goomba38 wrote:
> >
> > Kate Connally wrote:
> >
> > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
> > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
> > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
> > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
> > years to come.
>
> Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
> being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
> ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
> wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
> have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
> separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
> Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
> Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
> And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
> food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
> the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
> actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
> me into doing it their way.
>
> Kate
>
> --

The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can "do it
their way."


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Goomba38 wrote:
> > >
> > > Kate Connally wrote:
> > >
> > > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
> > > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
> > > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
> > > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
> > > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
> > > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
> > > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
> > > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
> > > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
> > > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
> > > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
> > > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
> > > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
> > > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
> > > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
> > > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
> > > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
> > > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Kate
> > >
> > > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
> > > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
> > > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
> > > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
> > > years to come.
> >
> > Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
> > being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
> > ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
> > wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
> > have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
> > separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
> > Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
> > Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
> > And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
> > food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
> > the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
> > actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
> > me into doing it their way.
> >
> > Kate
> >
> > --
>
> The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can "do it
> their way."

I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
(as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.

Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>
>>"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Goomba38 wrote:
>>>
>>>>Kate Connally wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
>>>>>service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
>>>>>in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
>>>>>really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
>>>>>I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
>>>>>sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
>>>>>on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
>>>>>restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
>>>>>order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
>>>>>the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
>>>>>couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
>>>>>reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
>>>>>So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
>>>>>They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
>>>>>a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
>>>>>it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
>>>>>It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
>>>>>it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Kate
>>>>
>>>>That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
>>>>own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
>>>>whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
>>>>resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
>>>>years to come.
>>>
>>>Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
>>>being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
>>>ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
>>>wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
>>>have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
>>>separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
>>>Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
>>>Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
>>>And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
>>>food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
>>>the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
>>>actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
>>>me into doing it their way.
>>>
>>>Kate
>>>
>>>--
>>
>>The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can "do it
>>their way."
>
>
> I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
> like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
> it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
> order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
> (as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
> to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
> want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
> already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
> well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
> then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
> portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
> times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
> problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
> about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
> a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.
>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
> a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
> food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
> wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!
>
> Kate
>

If I go to a "top quality" restaurant, I kind of expect the chef to have
an ego and maybe be eccentric, but not the management and the waiters.

Bob

Kate Connally wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>
>>"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Goomba38 wrote:
>>>
>>>>Kate Connally wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
>>>>>service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
>>>>>in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
>>>>>really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
>>>>>I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
>>>>>sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
>>>>>on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
>>>>>restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
>>>>>order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
>>>>>the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
>>>>>couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
>>>>>reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
>>>>>So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
>>>>>They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
>>>>>a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
>>>>>it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
>>>>>It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
>>>>>it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Kate
>>>>
>>>>That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
>>>>own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
>>>>whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
>>>>resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
>>>>years to come.
>>>
>>>Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
>>>being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
>>>ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
>>>wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
>>>have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
>>>separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
>>>Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
>>>Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
>>>And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
>>>food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
>>>the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
>>>actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
>>>me into doing it their way.
>>>
>>>Kate
>>>
>>>--
>>
>>The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can "do it
>>their way."
>
>
> I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
> like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
> it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
> order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
> (as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
> to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
> want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
> already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
> well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
> then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
> portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
> times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
> problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
> about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
> a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.
>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
> a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
> food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
> wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!
>
> Kate
>

If I go to a "top quality" restaurant, I kind of expect the chef to have
an ego and maybe be eccentric, but not the management and the waiters.

Bob

Kate Connally > wrote in
:

> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>
>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Goomba38 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kate Connally wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
>> > > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
>> > > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
>> > > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
>> > > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
>> > > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
>> > > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
>> > > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
>> > > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
>> > > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
>> > > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
>> > > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
>> > > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
>> > > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
>> > > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
>> > > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
>> > > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
>> > > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Kate
>> > >
>> > > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
>> > > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
>> > > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
>> > > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
>> > > years to come.
>> >
>> > Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
>> > being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
>> > ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
>> > wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
>> > have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
>> > separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
>> > Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
>> > Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
>> > And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
>> > food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
>> > the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
>> > actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
>> > me into doing it their way.
>> >
>> > Kate
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can
>> "do it their way."
>
> I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
> like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
> it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
> order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
> (as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
> to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
> want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
> already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
> well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
> then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
> portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
> times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
> problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
> about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
> a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.
>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
> a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
> food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
> wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!
>
> Kate
>

I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Kate Connally > wrote in
:

> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>
>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Goomba38 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kate Connally wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
>> > > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
>> > > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
>> > > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
>> > > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
>> > > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
>> > > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
>> > > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
>> > > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
>> > > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
>> > > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
>> > > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
>> > > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
>> > > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
>> > > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
>> > > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
>> > > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
>> > > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Kate
>> > >
>> > > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
>> > > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
>> > > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
>> > > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
>> > > years to come.
>> >
>> > Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
>> > being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
>> > ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
>> > wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
>> > have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
>> > separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
>> > Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
>> > Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
>> > And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
>> > food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
>> > the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
>> > actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
>> > me into doing it their way.
>> >
>> > Kate
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can
>> "do it their way."
>
> I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
> like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
> it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
> order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
> (as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
> to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
> want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
> already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
> well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
> then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
> portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
> times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
> problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
> about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
> a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.
>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
> a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
> food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
> wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!
>
> Kate
>

I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Kate Connally > wrote in
:

> Peter Aitken wrote:
>>
>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Goomba38 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kate Connally wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > You know, I did just this very thing but not to avoid a
>> > > > service charge. I have always wanted to eat at Brennan's
>> > > > in New Orleans and when I got the chance to go there I was
>> > > > really excited. I couldn't wait to have the Bananas Foster.
>> > > > I made a reservation months in advance. I was meeting my
>> > > > sister and her husband there for dinner while we were both
>> > > > on vacation in N. O. at the same time. So, we get to the
>> > > > restaurant and are seated and the waiter comes to take our
>> > > > order and I ask for separate checks. No deal! Huh? What's
>> > > > the big deal? (I don't even want to hear all the "so why
>> > > > couldn't one or the other of you just pay the check and get
>> > > > reimbursed by the other" comments - there are reasons - okay?)
>> > > > So I'm furious. I ask to be seated at another table nearby.
>> > > > They think I'm nuts. Too bad it didn't work. If it had been
>> > > > a place where you didn't need a reservation months in advance
>> > > > it woulda worked. We ended up eating at Kakoo and Ralph's.
>> > > > It was great. Eh, their Bananas Foster is probably not all
>> > > > it's cracked up to be anyway. :-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Kate
>> > >
>> > > That's really a depressing story. It is like you cut your
>> > > own nose off to spite your face...very sad. I hope
>> > > whatever is wrong between you and your family can be
>> > > resolved so that you don't miss out on other nice things in
>> > > years to come.
>> >
>> > Well, I don't feel that way about it. I just don't like
>> > being pushed around by snooty restaurants or even non-snooty
>> > ones! It was a matter of principle. And there is nothing
>> > wrong between me and my family. If there were I would not
>> > have been dining with them! The reasons for requesting
>> > separate checks have nothing to do with a "family feud".
>> > Don't feel sorry for me. I can always make my own Banana's
>> > Foster from Brennan's own recipe so it's not a big deal.
>> > And we had a great time at Kakoo and Ralph's and great
>> > food. I had crab done 7 different ways, and except for
>> > the soft-shell crab it was all delicious. I would have
>> > actually felt worse about it if I had let Brennan's force
>> > me into doing it their way.
>> >
>> > Kate
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> The very reason for going to a top quality restaurant is so they can
>> "do it their way."
>
> I totally disagree. If I go there to have the house specialty,
> like Bananas Foster, then, obviously, I'm going to "have
> it their way", but if I just go there to eat and decide to
> order salmon and they refuse to cook it properly for me
> (as in *not* rare!), then I don't think they have the right
> to tell me that's the only way they will cook it. And if I
> want a dish without the mushrooms and it's not something that's
> already made up with the mushrooms already in it then I damn
> well will "have it *my* way". Of course if I had known
> then, what I know now about both parties charging their own
> portion on their own credit card, something I've done many
> times in the last 10 or 12 years, it wouldn't have been a
> problem, but they probably would have given me a hard time
> about that, too, with my luck. I don't know when that became
> a common practice. Anyway, this was almost 20 years ago.
>
> Anyway, as far as I am concerned the reason for going to
> a "top quality" restaurant is so that I can have well-prepared
> food and good service. Not to cater to the ego of some
> wacked out chef who thinks his way is the only way!
>
> Kate
>

I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

>I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
>the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.
>
>Wayne in Phoenix

That's precisely the attitude that made the Golden Arches so successful.


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I didn't read through all 124 posts, but the NYC District Attorney
dropped the case, citing a gratuity is voluntary even if an
establishment says it is mandatory.

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I didn't read through all 124 posts, but the NYC District Attorney
dropped the case, citing a gratuity is voluntary even if an
establishment says it is mandatory.

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I didn't read through all 124 posts, but the NYC District Attorney
dropped the case, citing a gratuity is voluntary even if an
establishment says it is mandatory.

Wayne wrote:

> I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
> the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.
>
Especially Brennans! People don't go there to have
it done *their own* way... they're going to avail
themselves of the superior food and presentation
done *Brennan's* way. We don't have many
restaurants in the class of Brennan's, IMO, that
I'd missed my chance to enjoy it if given a chance!
Goomba

Wayne wrote:

> I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
> the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.
>
Especially Brennans! People don't go there to have
it done *their own* way... they're going to avail
themselves of the superior food and presentation
done *Brennan's* way. We don't have many
restaurants in the class of Brennan's, IMO, that
I'd missed my chance to enjoy it if given a chance!
Goomba

Wayne wrote:

> I wouldn't want to go to a restaurant where I felt the need to dictate
> the cooking method and ingredients to the chef.
>
Especially Brennans! People don't go there to have
it done *their own* way... they're going to avail
themselves of the superior food and presentation
done *Brennan's* way. We don't have many
restaurants in the class of Brennan's, IMO, that
I'd missed my chance to enjoy it if given a chance!
Goomba