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![]() "Wayne" > wrote in message > > I'd pass on the refrigerator, but might actually consider the range with > the refrigeration capability if I wanted to spend that much money. We > leave home around 6:00am and often don't get home before 8:00pm. You are the target audience for that product. What is frivolous for most of us is just the ticket for others. |
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![]() "Wayne" > wrote in message > > I'd pass on the refrigerator, but might actually consider the range with > the refrigeration capability if I wanted to spend that much money. We > leave home around 6:00am and often don't get home before 8:00pm. You are the target audience for that product. What is frivolous for most of us is just the ticket for others. |
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The Cook > wrote:
>I was not referring to only built-in bookcases. There were few if any >books in the houses. Again; hardly surprising. The type of folks that would fill their house with books has always been a vast minority. A minority made especially amusing by the habit of many of them of disparaging anyone who doesn't have books. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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The Cook > wrote:
>I was not referring to only built-in bookcases. There were few if any >books in the houses. Again; hardly surprising. The type of folks that would fill their house with books has always been a vast minority. A minority made especially amusing by the habit of many of them of disparaging anyone who doesn't have books. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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>> >> ![]() >> >> Andy > ><sigh> and not a book or bookcase to be seen. Sad. >And we wonder what's dumbing down our kids? >Goomba > I've only lived in one house with built-in bookcases. What sort of surprises me is the people I know who have a room in their house that they call "the library." One has a bookshelf going from the living room to this "library": I have more shelf space for books in this room and I call it my, well, room . Another couple has a room off the dining room with one wall with built-in shelves. When I was cat-sitting for them they told me I was welcome to borrow any of their books to read. I found nothing of interest. Most of the books were old garage sale buys, I think, like best-sellers from 1975. I think I had already read all those back in 1975. |
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notbob > wrote in message news:<RvL2d.451989$%_6.449805@attbi_s01>...
> On 2004-09-17, Nancy Young > wrote: > > > > Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. > > I don't see what's so unusual about a tv built into a refrigerator. I know > lots of folks that have a tv in the kitchen. Seemns like a good place to > put it, a real space saver. Besides, with most of the newer upscale > fridges, the tv is really a computer and the idea is to have a dedicated > computer to help keep track of your pantry, menus, etc. The long range goal > is to have self scanning refrigerators that keep track of what is, or > isn't, in the fridge and automatically re-ordering groceries to on-line grocers > that will deliver. That must be somebody else's long-range goal. I wouldn't trust anybody else to choose my produce or meat. If I'm going to the store for those, why not pick up my own flour, ketchup, etc.? >Naturally, this is just another case of inventing > another bogus feature and then convincing us we need it. I can just see > a whole new genre of magazines on how to hack your fridge so it WON'T > automatically reorder a weeks worth of Marie Callender chicken pot pies. Ah. I think it's a hardware problem. Just snip the Internet connection. You know, they never think of hitting the Off switch when the crazy computer is about to blow up the world. First, disable the uninterruptible power supply, then hit the circuit breaker. Cindy Hamilton |
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notbob > wrote in message news:<RvL2d.451989$%_6.449805@attbi_s01>...
> On 2004-09-17, Nancy Young > wrote: > > > > Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. > > I don't see what's so unusual about a tv built into a refrigerator. I know > lots of folks that have a tv in the kitchen. Seemns like a good place to > put it, a real space saver. Besides, with most of the newer upscale > fridges, the tv is really a computer and the idea is to have a dedicated > computer to help keep track of your pantry, menus, etc. The long range goal > is to have self scanning refrigerators that keep track of what is, or > isn't, in the fridge and automatically re-ordering groceries to on-line grocers > that will deliver. That must be somebody else's long-range goal. I wouldn't trust anybody else to choose my produce or meat. If I'm going to the store for those, why not pick up my own flour, ketchup, etc.? >Naturally, this is just another case of inventing > another bogus feature and then convincing us we need it. I can just see > a whole new genre of magazines on how to hack your fridge so it WON'T > automatically reorder a weeks worth of Marie Callender chicken pot pies. Ah. I think it's a hardware problem. Just snip the Internet connection. You know, they never think of hitting the Off switch when the crazy computer is about to blow up the world. First, disable the uninterruptible power supply, then hit the circuit breaker. Cindy Hamilton |
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In article >, (Derek Lyons) wrote:
>The Cook > wrote: > >>I was not referring to only built-in bookcases. There were few if any >>books in the houses. > >Again; hardly surprising. The type of folks that would fill their >house with books has always been a vast minority. A minority made >especially amusing by the habit of many of them of disparaging anyone >who doesn't have books. Derek, I'm curious... What on earth is a "vast minority"? ;-) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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(J.J. in WA) wrote:
>One time on Usenet, (Derek Lyons) said: > >Maybe the owners of some homes that Susan toured had their books >packed? When we sold our old place, I boxed up anything I could and >put it in storage before we started showing. And there's the kind of >folks who read yet own few books -- they're usually rabid library >patrons. True. I know several folks that are rabid readers, but have few books about. They tend to haunt paperback exchanges, exchanging as well as buying. I do pretty much the same with my fiction. My house is however filled with books, mostly of the non-fiction kind. These are research material, not reading material. >I'm just saying that it's hard to judge whether or not people read >by how many books and/or bookshelves you see in their homes... <nods> Good point. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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(J.J. in WA) wrote:
>One time on Usenet, (Derek Lyons) said: > >Maybe the owners of some homes that Susan toured had their books >packed? When we sold our old place, I boxed up anything I could and >put it in storage before we started showing. And there's the kind of >folks who read yet own few books -- they're usually rabid library >patrons. True. I know several folks that are rabid readers, but have few books about. They tend to haunt paperback exchanges, exchanging as well as buying. I do pretty much the same with my fiction. My house is however filled with books, mostly of the non-fiction kind. These are research material, not reading material. >I'm just saying that it's hard to judge whether or not people read >by how many books and/or bookshelves you see in their homes... <nods> Good point. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. |
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We moved into a new house when I was in junior high. My mother was
going nuts trying to figure out where to put the bookshelves in the living room. There were shelves in the bedrooms and garage but not the bedroom. I asked Mom why she was bothering. She answered "I worry when I go to a house with no books." With that in mind, books were a major decorating point for me in every apartment I moved to. I always had shelves and the books on them carefully arranged. I considered that people would visit and look at the books and judge me accordingly. I read both lightweight novels and classics but was careful to make sure I never left the trash out where someone might see. That would be as embarrassing as leaving sex toys out in full view. The years went by. The book collection grew. Each move got harder and harder as packing up the books and shipping them became more of a pita. Finally, I moved in with my boyfriend and up here to New England. The books took up the better part of the moving truck. Once up here, there were 2 of us to debate where the books went and how to put the shelves up. In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic could I get? Besides, there weren't that many guests over anyway, and I could get ahold of any book I needed quickly with the Internet and the library. In a quick rash decision, I gave away tons of books, books I'd been saving lovingly for years. Sometimes I regret it. Mostly I don't. --Lia |
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We moved into a new house when I was in junior high. My mother was
going nuts trying to figure out where to put the bookshelves in the living room. There were shelves in the bedrooms and garage but not the bedroom. I asked Mom why she was bothering. She answered "I worry when I go to a house with no books." With that in mind, books were a major decorating point for me in every apartment I moved to. I always had shelves and the books on them carefully arranged. I considered that people would visit and look at the books and judge me accordingly. I read both lightweight novels and classics but was careful to make sure I never left the trash out where someone might see. That would be as embarrassing as leaving sex toys out in full view. The years went by. The book collection grew. Each move got harder and harder as packing up the books and shipping them became more of a pita. Finally, I moved in with my boyfriend and up here to New England. The books took up the better part of the moving truck. Once up here, there were 2 of us to debate where the books went and how to put the shelves up. In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic could I get? Besides, there weren't that many guests over anyway, and I could get ahold of any book I needed quickly with the Internet and the library. In a quick rash decision, I gave away tons of books, books I'd been saving lovingly for years. Sometimes I regret it. Mostly I don't. --Lia |
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One time on Usenet, Julia Altshuler > said:
<snip> > The years went by. The book collection grew. Each move got harder and > harder as packing up the books and shipping them became more of a pita. > Finally, I moved in with my boyfriend and up here to New England. The > books took up the better part of the moving truck. Once up here, there > were 2 of us to debate where the books went and how to put the shelves > up. In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge > me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow > and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic > could I get? Besides, there weren't that many guests over anyway, and I > could get ahold of any book I needed quickly with the Internet and the > library. In a quick rash decision, I gave away tons of books, books I'd > been saving lovingly for years. Sometimes I regret it. Mostly I don't. Wow, I don't know if I could do that. I have several shelves of books in our front room, because I re-read them. I know, most people think that's stupid, but I don't care -- a favorite book and a mug of hot peppermint tea are a tiny bit of heaven for me... -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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One time on Usenet, Julia Altshuler > said:
<snip> > The years went by. The book collection grew. Each move got harder and > harder as packing up the books and shipping them became more of a pita. > Finally, I moved in with my boyfriend and up here to New England. The > books took up the better part of the moving truck. Once up here, there > were 2 of us to debate where the books went and how to put the shelves > up. In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge > me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow > and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic > could I get? Besides, there weren't that many guests over anyway, and I > could get ahold of any book I needed quickly with the Internet and the > library. In a quick rash decision, I gave away tons of books, books I'd > been saving lovingly for years. Sometimes I regret it. Mostly I don't. Wow, I don't know if I could do that. I have several shelves of books in our front room, because I re-read them. I know, most people think that's stupid, but I don't care -- a favorite book and a mug of hot peppermint tea are a tiny bit of heaven for me... -- J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF (COLD to HOT for e-mail) |
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Dog3 wrote:
> > Nancy Young > : > > > > > Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. > > > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? > > > > nancy > > > > Where in God's name did you see this aparatus? ROFLMAO! I wonder how it > gets along with the ice maker? What happens if Sex and the City is on? Do your frozen foods melt? Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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Dog3 wrote:
> > Nancy Young > : > > > > > Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. > > > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? > > > > nancy > > > > Where in God's name did you see this aparatus? ROFLMAO! I wonder how it > gets along with the ice maker? What happens if Sex and the City is on? Do your frozen foods melt? Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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Dog3 wrote:
> > Nancy Young > : > > > > > Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. > > > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? > > > > nancy > > > > Where in God's name did you see this aparatus? ROFLMAO! I wonder how it > gets along with the ice maker? What happens if Sex and the City is on? Do your frozen foods melt? Kate -- Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back, Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about? |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
(Heavily edited) > In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge > me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow > and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic > could I get? I got rid of twenty boxes of books after college. I put what I kept out in a nice homemade bookshelf is the dense hope that SOMEday, someone will strike up a conversation after seeing something on a shelf, like I do when I go to the house of someone who has good books out. Alas, I live in a cultural wasteland, and no one seems to have read "Things Fall Apart" or "The Makioka Sisters" or "Njal's Saga" or "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" or "The Devil's Dictionary". But I live on in hope. Since I had a baby, three bright women with post-grad education have gone on and on about a Lamont book "Operating Instructions", and I am sad it is the ONLY book anyone has recommended to me in the last two years. To me it is full of whining about "recovery" and the consequences of not using birth control, and thnk the whole thing a fiction she did in the guise of a memoir just to make a buck. I had a big treat yesterday. I found a copy the book I just loved as a seven year old "My Father's Dragon". I had forgotten the name, but never the maps, or the Spoonerizing mouse that called out "Bum cack, bum cack! We dreed our nagon!" blacksalt ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn to lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie chow to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon juice and munch it up by Thursday. |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
(Heavily edited) > In a moment of inspiration, I realized that anyone who would judge > me or get to know me on the basis of the books on my shelves was shallow > and I was shallow for thinking such a thing was possible. How neurotic > could I get? I got rid of twenty boxes of books after college. I put what I kept out in a nice homemade bookshelf is the dense hope that SOMEday, someone will strike up a conversation after seeing something on a shelf, like I do when I go to the house of someone who has good books out. Alas, I live in a cultural wasteland, and no one seems to have read "Things Fall Apart" or "The Makioka Sisters" or "Njal's Saga" or "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" or "The Devil's Dictionary". But I live on in hope. Since I had a baby, three bright women with post-grad education have gone on and on about a Lamont book "Operating Instructions", and I am sad it is the ONLY book anyone has recommended to me in the last two years. To me it is full of whining about "recovery" and the consequences of not using birth control, and thnk the whole thing a fiction she did in the guise of a memoir just to make a buck. I had a big treat yesterday. I found a copy the book I just loved as a seven year old "My Father's Dragon". I had forgotten the name, but never the maps, or the Spoonerizing mouse that called out "Bum cack, bum cack! We dreed our nagon!" blacksalt ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn to lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie chow to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon juice and munch it up by Thursday. |
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J.J. in WA wrote:
> Wow, I don't know if I could do that. I have several shelves of books > in our front room, because I re-read them. I know, most people think > that's stupid, but I don't care -- a favorite book and a mug of hot > peppermint tea are a tiny bit of heaven for me... I'm not suggesting that anyone who doesn't want to get rid of their extra books should do so, only saying that I did. I do reread favorite books. _Reading Lolita in Tehran_ got me interested again in books I read long ago. So I got _Pride and Prejudice_ from the library and am rereading. It probably took me as long to get it from the library as it would have taken me to dig it out from boxes in storage if I'd kept my original copy. I still buy books, but now I try to give them away as soon as I see they're piling up. --Lia |
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J.J. in WA wrote:
> Wow, I don't know if I could do that. I have several shelves of books > in our front room, because I re-read them. I know, most people think > that's stupid, but I don't care -- a favorite book and a mug of hot > peppermint tea are a tiny bit of heaven for me... I'm not suggesting that anyone who doesn't want to get rid of their extra books should do so, only saying that I did. I do reread favorite books. _Reading Lolita in Tehran_ got me interested again in books I read long ago. So I got _Pride and Prejudice_ from the library and am rereading. It probably took me as long to get it from the library as it would have taken me to dig it out from boxes in storage if I'd kept my original copy. I still buy books, but now I try to give them away as soon as I see they're piling up. --Lia |
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kalanamak > wrote in :
> ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn to > lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie chow > to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon juice and > munch it up by Thursday. > > Try some roasted chick peas or roasted soybeans in your salad. Those seem to make salads less boring to me. -- Last year's nuts must go. - Michael Odom |
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kalanamak > wrote in :
> ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn to > lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie chow > to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon juice and > munch it up by Thursday. > > Try some roasted chick peas or roasted soybeans in your salad. Those seem to make salads less boring to me. -- Last year's nuts must go. - Michael Odom |
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"Alan_B" > wrote in
: > kalanamak > wrote in > : > >> ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn >> to lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie >> chow to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon >> juice and munch it up by Thursday. >> >> > > Try some roasted chick peas or roasted soybeans in your salad. Those > seem to make salads less boring to me. > I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is this something you do at home? -- Wayne in Phoenix unmunge as w-e-b *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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"Alan_B" > wrote in
: > kalanamak > wrote in > : > >> ObFood: My recent salad binge continues, as I continue on my sojourn >> to lose my "baby fat". Every Monday I take a big, big bag of yuppie >> chow to work, and a bottle with olive oil mixed with fresh lemon >> juice and munch it up by Thursday. >> >> > > Try some roasted chick peas or roasted soybeans in your salad. Those > seem to make salads less boring to me. > I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is this something you do at home? -- Wayne in Phoenix unmunge as w-e-b *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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Wayne > wrote in
: > I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is > this something you do at home? > > -- > Wayne in Phoenix > > unmunge as w-e-b > > *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , you'd probably find them in a health food store. -- Last year's nuts must go. - Michael Odom |
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Wayne > wrote in
: > I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is > this something you do at home? > > -- > Wayne in Phoenix > > unmunge as w-e-b > > *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , you'd probably find them in a health food store. -- Last year's nuts must go. - Michael Odom |
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Wayne > wrote in
: > I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is > this something you do at home? > > -- > Wayne in Phoenix > > unmunge as w-e-b > > *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. > *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , you'd probably find them in a health food store. -- Last year's nuts must go. - Michael Odom |
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"Alan_B" > wrote in
: > Wayne > wrote in > : > >> I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is >> this something you do at home? >> >> -- >> Wayne in Phoenix >> >> unmunge as w-e-b >> >> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. >> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. >> > > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good > too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , > you'd probably find them in a health food store. > I'll look for them. Sounds like something I'd like. Thanks! -- Wayne in Phoenix unmunge as w-e-b *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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"Alan_B" > wrote in
: > Wayne > wrote in > : > >> I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is >> this something you do at home? >> >> -- >> Wayne in Phoenix >> >> unmunge as w-e-b >> >> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. >> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. >> > > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good > too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , > you'd probably find them in a health food store. > I'll look for them. Sounds like something I'd like. Thanks! -- Wayne in Phoenix unmunge as w-e-b *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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"Alan_B" > wrote in
: > Wayne > wrote in > : > >> I've never seen roasted chick peas. Can you buy them roasted, or is >> this something you do at home? >> >> -- >> Wayne in Phoenix >> >> unmunge as w-e-b >> >> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. >> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. >> > > I buy them roasted... a nice crunchy texture and taste pretty good > too. Up here they're sold in Scoop and weigh type stores. Down there , > you'd probably find them in a health food store. > I'll look for them. Sounds like something I'd like. Thanks! -- Wayne in Phoenix unmunge as w-e-b *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. LOL..I just saw this post. No, I don't think it is a stupid idea. I think it's an awesome idea because the TV used has my DH's computer chip in it. ![]() > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? I don't think the components are very large. Plus it's a flat-panel that pops off. I can't say much more. -L. |
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Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. LOL..I just saw this post. No, I don't think it is a stupid idea. I think it's an awesome idea because the TV used has my DH's computer chip in it. ![]() > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? I don't think the components are very large. Plus it's a flat-panel that pops off. I can't say much more. -L. |
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Nancy Young > wrote in message >...
> Do you disagree with me? This refrigerator with a built in tv. LOL..I just saw this post. No, I don't think it is a stupid idea. I think it's an awesome idea because the TV used has my DH's computer chip in it. ![]() > > I can just see it now, the tv breaks, you have to get someone in to > fix it for like $1000, then the next time, they don't make that any > more and no tv will fit into the opening so you're screwed. Never > mind how much room does it take out of the refrigerator compartment? I don't think the components are very large. Plus it's a flat-panel that pops off. I can't say much more. -L. |
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Goomba38 > wrote in message >...
> PaulaGarlic wrote: > > > > I saw one at a Best Buy a couple of months ago...late July or so. It just > > seemed so pathetic. I certainly don't want one. > > > > Paula > > I just saw it at Best Buy this week. Great > picture, Thanks. I'll be sure to tell DH. -L. |
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