I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.

I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.

I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.

Grindingly Yours (Ha…sorry)

Marty Moose

>(MartyMoose)
>
>I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>
>I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
>should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>
>I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
>mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
>on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.

None better... I have the large brass one.

http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...earch&itemId=c
prod1859776


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"MartyMoose" > wrote in message
om...
> I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>
> I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>
As you say, lots out there. I got one from Penzeys and was disappointed; I
got the larger of the two they offer, but found it both too small and too
light. I have a fairly tall, 10 inch or so, wooden mill which I like a lot.
On the bottom it says Banton by Vic Firth. By altering the screw tension
you can change the grind from very fine to coarse enough for steak au
poivre. I've had it for quite a while and don't remember it as being
particularly expensive. I don't like the electric ones, but chacun a son
gout.

"MartyMoose" > wrote in message
om...
> I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>
> I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>
> I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
> mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
> on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.
>
> Grindingly Yours (Ha.sorry)
>
> Marty Moose

Unicorn Magnum Plus Pepper Mill
http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=170008

MartyMoose > wrote:
> I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.

> I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.

> I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
> mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
> on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.

What do you mean by "best?" Cheapest, most durable, or what?
What is "best" is subjective.

I think the William bounds are the best.
The grinding mechanism is guaranteed forever.
The adjustment for coarse-medium-fine is also
really easy and effective.
I gave my son one of the wooden, squatty ones
and he loves it. He says his friends always make comments on how
nice it is.

Barb
"MartyMoose" > wrote in message
om...
> I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>
> I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>
> I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
> mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
> on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.
>
> Grindingly Yours (Ha.sorry)
>
> Marty Moose

at Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:51:49 GMT in <20040112115149.13580.00003008@mb-
m10.aol.com>, (PENMART01) wrote :

>>(MartyMoose)
>>
>>I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>>
>>I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
>>should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
....
>
>None better... I have the large brass one.
>
>http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...earch&itemId=c
>prod1859776
>

This reference yields a "product not found". Are you, perchance, referring
to the "Professional Salt & Pepper Mills" made in Greece, (Item #1248 in
your case)?

If so I agree that these are really good. I got one after looking around
and concluding that it was the best I would be able to find. A few
quibbles, though.

The finest grind setting is coarser than what I would like ideally. I'd
like to be able to grind down to the consistency of ultra-fine pastry flour
for certain spices.

The actual mechanism is difficult to clean. I'd prefer something you could
disassemble quickly right down to the grinding buhrs, so that you could
give them a thorough clean when using them for multiple spices.

It would also be nice to have a hard ceramic buhr available for more
resilient items. That would also provide a longer life, IMHO.

It's really big for table use. This isn't a major quibble, because I use it
for cooking, where a smaller one would be impractical, and I think it's
silly to get 2, one for cooking and one for the table. But those who are
only going to use it at the table will find it somewhat unwieldy, and also
top-heavy. If you want to stand it up at the table even a fairly mild
vibration or jar will probably cause it to tip, and these are heavy units.
They'll easily damage a tabletop, and break any dishes they hit.

Having said this, however, I haven't found another unit with the features
I'd like anyway. So most of these quibbles are wish-list, not actual
reality.
--
Alex Rast

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(Alex Rast)

>(PENMART01) wrote :
>
>>>(MartyMoose)
>>>
>>>I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>>>
>>>I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
>>>should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>...
>>
>>None better... I have the large brass one.
>>
>>http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...earch&itemId=c
>>prod1859776
>>
>
>This reference yields a "product not found". Are you, perchance, referring
>to the "Professional Salt & Pepper Mills" made in Greece, (Item #1248 in
>your case)?

That's it.

This works:
http://www.chefscatalog.com/store/ca...earch&itemId=c
prod1859776

>If so I agree that these are really good. I got one after looking around
>and concluding that it was the best I would be able to find. A few
>quibbles, though.
>
>The finest grind setting is coarser than what I would like ideally. I'd
>like to be able to grind down to the consistency of ultra-fine pastry flour
>for certain spices.

No burr grinder is capable of so fine a grind, certainly not with high quality
peppercorns (too oily).

>The actual mechanism is difficult to clean. I'd prefer something you could
>disassemble quickly right down to the grinding buhrs, so that you could
>give them a thorough clean when using them for multiple spices.

I've been using mine for 5-6 years, many tmes each day, needs no cleaning.

>It would also be nice to have a hard ceramic buhr available for more
>resilient items. That would also provide a longer life, IMHO.

No comment.

>It's really big for table use. This isn't a major quibble, because I use it
>for cooking, where a smaller one would be impractical, and I think it's
>silly to get 2, one for cooking and one for the table.

Why? Do you have only one spoon?

>But those who are
>only going to use it at the table will find it somewhat unwieldy, and also
>top-heavy. If you want to stand it up at the table even a fairly mild
>vibration or jar will probably cause it to tip, and these are heavy units.
>They'll easily damage a tabletop, and break any dishes they hit.

For table use get the shorter, wide-based one... the chrome one will be
stable... but then there's no accounting for the klutziness of your guests.

>Having said this, however, I haven't found another unit with the features
>I'd like anyway. So most of these quibbles are wish-list, not actual
>reality.

I own quite an assortment of peppermills; I keep many filled with different
kinds of peppercorns and adjusted to various grades of fineness... but the big
brass one is unbeatable... actually it's a coffee mill.


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(Alex Rast) wrote in
:

> Having said this, however, I haven't found another unit with the
> features I'd like anyway. So most of these quibbles are wish-list, not
> actual reality.
> --
>

For cooking I use an old fashioned styled turn the handle (on top) Coffee
Grinder for my spice and pepper grinding needs. The Handle can be removed
and a battery operated electric drill can be used to supply the turning
force if I have lots of spices to grind.It adjusts the grind enough for my
wants. I got it from a kit offered at www.Leevalley.com. I did have to
build a wooden box with a drawer for use with it though. I'm guessing a
plastic bowl would work as well but not look as nice. I use a generic
pepper grinder at the table. The coffee grinder is quite easy to
disassemble to clean.

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and water.
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I'll second the Unicorn Magnum Plus...I collect pepper grinders, always
searching for the best. I too bought the one from Penzey's only to be
disappointed. HOWEVER, just love my Magnum Plus. It's wonderful!!!

"Mr. Wizard" > wrote in message
...
>
> "MartyMoose" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
> >
> > I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> > should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
> >
> > I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
> > mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
> > on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.
> >
> > Grindingly Yours (Ha.sorry)
> >
> > Marty Moose
>
> Unicorn Magnum Plus Pepper Mill
> http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=170008
>
>

at Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:41:06 GMT in
>,
(PENMART01) wrote :

>(Alex Rast)
>
>>The finest grind setting is coarser than what I would like ideally. I'd
>>like to be able to grind down to the consistency of ultra-fine pastry
>>flour for certain spices...
>
>No burr grinder is capable of so fine a grind, certainly not with high
>quality peppercorns (too oily).

Not for pepper, but for other (less oily) spices. I don't quite see why it
would be impossible to manufacture a grinder with that level of possible
grind. But it would require extreme precision. I suspect all the parts
would need to be mounted on precision bearings to permit the kind of fine
tolerances one would require. As I said, these are quibbles. I don't
seriously expect a company would manufacture such a grinder, but in an
ideal world, they would.

>>The actual mechanism is difficult to clean. I'd prefer something you
>>could disassemble quickly right down to the grinding buhrs, so that you
>>could give them a thorough clean when using them for multiple spices.
>
>I've been using mine for 5-6 years, many tmes each day, needs no
>cleaning.

If you're using it only for pepper, probably no cleaning required. But I
like to use mine for many different spices, e.g. cinnamon, cumin, cardamom,
pepper, etc... For that case I'd like to be able to clean it out between
different spices so as not to mix the flavour of one for the other. As it
is, the only thing I can really do is grind a certain amount of the new
spice, throw that portion out, then grind the stuff I'm actually going to
use.

>>It would also be nice to have a hard ceramic buhr available for more
>>resilient items. That would also provide a longer life, IMHO.
>
>No comment.

What are you signifying? Do you really have nothing to say on this? Do you
think there's some self-evidently obvious reason that ceramic would be a
bad choice? Do you think this is getting overly obsessive? Sorry if I'm
sounding obtuse but I would appreciate some clarification.

>>It's really big for table use. This isn't a major quibble, because I
>>use it for cooking, where a smaller one would be impractical, and I
>>think it's silly to get 2, one for cooking and one for the table.
>
>Why? Do you have only one spoon?

Because a grinder is a semi-major mechanical apparatus. As such, as long as
one can do the job, there shouldn't really be a need for others. Spoons, I
might have more than one, because I would expect more than one person might
wish to use a spoon at the same time, but do I have more than one of each
type of spoon that typically no more than one person would wish to use
simultaneously? No. So, I have one large wooden spoon, one stirring spoon,
one slotted spoon, etc. I prefer not to have duplicates of items performing
essentially the same function.


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I went in search of the 'best' pepper grinder and eventually decided on
a Marlux grinder, there made in France and have a life time guarantee.
They can be adjusted from very fine to quite coarse and have a nice
smooth movement.

http://www.creativecookware.com/salt_&_pepper_mills.htm

Regards,
Paul

MartyMoose wrote:

> I love freshly ground pepper on just about anything.
>
> I've decide that if I'm going to use the best peppercorns available, I
> should use the best Pepper Mill that I can find.
>
> I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
> mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
> on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.
>
> Grindingly Yours (Ha…sorry)
>
> Marty Moose

(Alex Rast) wrote in message >...
>
> The finest grind setting is coarser than what I would like ideally. I'd
> like to be able to grind down to the consistency of ultra-fine pastry flour
> for certain spices.

What you want is a granite mortar and pestle. Not marble, not
ceramic, not soapstone, but granite. I find mine much more useful
than any mechanical grinder I've tried. You can pound spices down to
a consistency finer than pastry flour, no grit at all and super
powdery in a fairly short time. They run from 20 -25 dollars at SE
Asian grocery stores and are a bargain for how much they do.

regards,
trillium

"BRevere" > wrote in message news:<BrEMb.35498$na.25931@attbi_s04>...
> I think the William bounds are the best.
> The grinding mechanism is guaranteed forever.


I agree - I have a William Bounds/All Clad pepper mill. Paid about
$10 for it on eBay - new in the box. It has three settings (coarse,
medium and fine),is a comfortable size, and looks great in my kitchen.
Can't beat it for price/performance!

- Chris
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(Chris)

>> I think the William bounds are the best.
>> The grinding mechanism is guaranteed forever.
>
>
>I agree - I have a William Bounds/All Clad pepper mill. Paid about
>$10 for it on eBay - new in the box. It has three settings (coarse,
>medium and fine),is a comfortable size, and looks great in my kitchen.
> Can't beat it for price/performance!

I have one and I think the William Bounds mechanism sucks big time:

http://www.peppermillsandmore.com/wmbounds.shtml
"The William Bounds peppermill crushes rather than grinds the peppercorns"

Regardless which setting there's the same assortment of particles... thing is
just awful. The thingie is not a peppermill, it does not grind.


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I've got the Unicorn Magnum grinder. Works well. Cook's Illustrated liked
it. Don't know if it is the world's best...


"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> (Chris)
>
> >> I think the William bounds are the best.
> >> The grinding mechanism is guaranteed forever.
> >
> >
> >I agree - I have a William Bounds/All Clad pepper mill. Paid about
> >$10 for it on eBay - new in the box. It has three settings (coarse,
> >medium and fine),is a comfortable size, and looks great in my kitchen.
> > Can't beat it for price/performance!
>
> I have one and I think the William Bounds mechanism sucks big time:
>
> http://www.peppermillsandmore.com/wmbounds.shtml
> "The William Bounds peppermill crushes rather than grinds the
peppercorns"
>
> Regardless which setting there's the same assortment of particles... thing
is
> just awful. The thingie is not a peppermill, it does not grind.
>
>
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>

In article >,
(MartyMoose) wrote:
>I've searched the internet only to find hundreds of different pepper
>mills for sale. I'm hoping that a few of the many experienced foodies
>on rec.food.cooking would share their pepper mill experiences with me.

Trudeau Evolution. Nice and heavy, rubber bottom (so it won't
slip), ceramic grinder mechanism, instantly adjustable. I got
one and liked it so much I bought a second one for white pepper.

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