I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

Thanks very much!

Lance

> LM monarch writes:
>
>I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

Don't really need any steenkin' transport in Toronto other than good walkin'
shooz.

Begin he http://www.stlawrencemarket.com

The St. lawrence Market is a wonderful place to garner ones meals; a little of
this, a little of that, choices from the various stands.... eaten while
browsing, eaten in a town park, or brought back to your room in a brown paper
sack... spectacular sausages, cheeses, fruits, breads, wines... what more do
you need.

That said, Toronto's high-end ($$$) restaurants are pretty disappointing, stick
with the family-style (¢¢¢) joints.

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If you have one $$$ meal have it at Bistro 990 at 990 Bay Street, a couple
of blocks south of Bloor. French cuisine, wonderful presentation, excellent
food!


"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> > LM monarch writes:
> >
> >I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
> >What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
> >Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
> >We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
> >staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
>
> Don't really need any steenkin' transport in Toronto other than good
walkin'
> shooz.
>
> Begin he http://www.stlawrencemarket.com
>
> The St. lawrence Market is a wonderful place to garner ones meals; a
little of
> this, a little of that, choices from the various stands.... eaten while
> browsing, eaten in a town park, or brought back to your room in a brown
paper
> sack... spectacular sausages, cheeses, fruits, breads, wines... what more
do
> you need.
>
> That said, Toronto's high-end ($$$) restaurants are pretty disappointing,
stick
> with the family-style (¢¢¢) joints.
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````

LM wrote:

> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

You will certainly have lots of options. Toronto is a very ethnically
diverse city. You budget will probably preclude your eating at or near the
convention centre. If you like Chinese food, one of Toronto's several
Chinatowns is just a few blocks north of the Convention Centre. Between the
CC and that Chinatown you will find Queen St. West, which has a nice variety
of restaurants, and most are quite reasonable. If you like Greek food there
is a "Greek Village" on Danforth. Hope on the subway and take the
Bloor-Danforth line east and get out at the Broadview stop or the next one.
There are several reasonably priced restaurants in the area of the St.
Lawrence Market. Papillon servers French and French Canadian dishes and is
not at all expensive.

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:29:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>LM wrote:
>
>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?

What sorts of things are you interested in? Would help to know that.

>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

Um, if you are used to or are willing to get used to riding in urban
traffic, bring your bicyles. (this is really worthwhile if you are
here longer than one weekend) The downtown has many bicycle lanes, and
it's a very quick and easy (and much less expensive!) way to get
around downtown. During the day,you move at car traffic speed or
faster. I'm a west end innerr suburbanite, just over the Humber River,
and I frequently ride into the corewhen going out to do fun informal
stuff. http://www.toronto.ca/parks/maps.htm

There are a lot of off road cycling paths through the city, up both
river valleys, most of the creeks, and along the waterfront. You can
also take your bicycles out to the Toronto Islands ($5.00 Cdn, fare
covers both directions) and stop and have lunch or dinner at the
Rectory Cafe, _or_ pick up a boxed lunch at the Queens Quay Loblaws
and have a picnic out there. Ward's Island and Algonquin Island have
year round residents, and if you dance, therre are generally dances
out at the community halls most Saturday nights, being organized by
one or another of the city dance groups.

>You will certainly have lots of options. Toronto is a very ethnically
>diverse city. You budget will probably preclude your eating at or near the
>convention centre. If you like Chinese food, one of Toronto's several
>Chinatowns is just a few blocks north of the Convention Centre. Between the
>CC and that Chinatown you will find Queen St. West, which has a nice variety
>of restaurants,

Oh yeah. And art galleries, and clothing designers, and oh my! It's
just a little piece of urban shopping paradise. Fabric shopping isn't
what it used to be, but if you're into that, the more design oriented
shops are still doing a good business, and you can find some gorgeous
stuff there. Oh, right, budget.

There is a Mondriani exhibit opening at the Art Gallery of Ontario
this week http://www.ago.net/navigation/flash/index.cfm on Dundas, two
blocks west of University, (and while there, peak down McCaul St at
the new matchbox in the sky addition to the Ontario College of Art &
Design, http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/sharpcentre/), there is a
exhibit on pearls at the ROM http://www.rom.on.ca/ at University &
Bloor, couple of small museums the Bata Shoe Museum
http://www.batashoemuseum.ca/ at St. George & Bloor.

Depending on when you are here, Heritage Toronto runs historical
walking tours up until October 16th. They are informative and fun.
(I do a few every year)
http://www.torontolife.com/cityguide...isting_id=7664.

Theatre ticket prices (the smaller productions) are quite affordable.
See http://www.canstage.com/2004-2005/index.asp &
http://www.passemuraille.on.ca/ for starters.

There are a series of used booksales at the University Colleges
throughout October: http://www.booksalefinder.com/utvictoria.html
Serious chance to pick up cheap Canadiana. The lineup are a great
place to talk books.

>and most are quite reasonable. If you like Greek food there
>is a "Greek Village" on Danforth.

Go to Avi, (sorry, no address, was there after contra dancing on
Saturday night.) Entrees in the $13 - 20 dollar Cdn range, appetizers
$7,00 Cdn and up, and pretty darn good. I didn't try their wine list.
Go to Pape Station on the Bloor Danforth line, exit, walk down to
Danforth Ave., and walk east along the south side. You should see it
within a block, IIRC (I was coming at it from the other way) Myth
(Myst?, also on the south side is a little pricier, and is kind of
nouvelle Greek

The city is lousy with coffee shops.

The By-the-Way-Cafe, on the north side of Bloor, is in the Annex area.
Pretty decent food, and good people watching. Is open for brunch from
about 10 am on. Is on the edge of the Annex neighbourhood, and you
never know which important Canadian figure you'll be eating next to.
(Last time I was there, it was an important jurist - my companion, who
lives in the neighbourhood , knew, I didn't!)

I'd also recommend Easy, on the south side of Queen, just east of
Roncesvalles, in the second hand furniture/antiquey area, and if they
are full (they do good brunch) go to Luna-by-the-Lake, which is around
the corner and up Roncesvalles on the east side.

>Hope on the subway and take the
>Bloor-Danforth line east and get out at the Broadview stop or the next one.

That would be Pape.

>There are several reasonably priced restaurants in the area of the St.
>Lawrence Market. Papillon servers French and French Canadian dishes and is
>not at all expensive.

Hugh's Room on Dundas St just South of Bloor (Dundas West Station on
the Bloor Danforth Line, and don't ask, Dundas St. started off as a
cowpath and wanders quite a bit on it's way west) is the city's
biggest non-concert folk music forum. http://www.hughsroom.com/

Baldwin St, from Yonge Street, to where it runs out, some where around
Spadina, is full of good cheap eats. I especially like the section
from University west. Also used CD and record stores, bits of this,
bits of that. It's nicely crumbly around the edges.

Toronto's strength is it's neighbourhoods off the main drags. (some of
the main drags can be butt ugly) Take the Queen 501 streetcar out to
the Beaches, and wander around the board walk. Finish up with a
mochachino in Queen St. East, and window shop until you drop.

Wander through the Annex. Oh and ah at the brick Edwardian Romanesque
and Queen Anne architecture. Wander down along Harbord St. west from
St. George. Ooh and ah at the rare book dealers and second-hand
bookshops. Try not to get sucked into Ms. Emma's Designs. Wander into
the neighbourhoods,and walk south to Queen St. W.

Gerrard St East, between Jones and Woodbine, is Little India East. Try
some spiced and limed roast corn from one of the street vendors, or
try one of the many restaurants. I especially like Upadi Palace. It's
kind of cafeteria looking in a well scrubbed tiled sort of way, but it
has piping hot vegetarian meals that will fill you up and then some.
It's a great place to wind up a long bike ride. And I've never met a
lassi I didn't like there.

If you feel like serious wealth envy, take the subway north on the
Yong Line, get out at Rosedale Station, and take a walk through
Rosedale. Turn of the century mock tudor and georgian never looked so
good. (it's pretty nice, twisty streets, human scale, and as I found
out during last year's garden tour, the best kept secret is the
ravines tucked behind many properties)

There is also film... TIFF is over but many of the larger pictures are
still running, and there is a topic specific film festival running
pretty well every weekend from March to November.

There is so much more.... hope all that helps.

Shirley Hicks
Toronto, Ontario



"A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment."
- Garrison Keillor

Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
08:29:29 -0400:

>LM wrote:
>
>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

Go to Les Marche (sp?) It's a french market-style restaurant and you
walk around the food stations and choose what you want to eat and they
prepare it for you on the spot and stamp your card so the cashier
knows what you need to pay for. It's not exactly cheap but you can
spend hours there nibbling away at the stuff. MMMMM!!!!!!!!!! You can
also get their goodies to take away. We were very impressed
--
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Lover of shiny things...

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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:07 +1000, Kajikit >
wrote:

>Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
>08:29:29 -0400:
>
>>LM wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
>
>Go to Les Marche (sp?)

Movenpick's Le Marche (accent over e) See some reviews at:
http://www.virtualtourist.com/vt/dc8fa/2/5ed/
It's quite popular and the line up can get long at brunch on weekends,
during the week at lunch and dinner....

<description snipped>

Shirley Hicks
TB

"A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment."
- Garrison Keillor

"Shirley Hicks" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:07 +1000, Kajikit >
> wrote:
>
>>Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
>>08:29:29 -0400:
>>
>>>LM wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my
>>>> hands.
>>>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>>>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>>>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll
>>>> be
>>>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention
>>>> Centre.
>>
>>Go to Les Marche (sp?)
>
> Movenpick's Le Marche (accent over e) See some reviews at:
> http://www.virtualtourist.com/vt/dc8fa/2/5ed/
> It's quite popular and the line up can get long at brunch on weekends,
> during the week at lunch and dinner....
>
> <description snipped>
>
> Shirley Hicks

We really enjoyed Movenpick's Le Marche when we were in Toronto. I seem to
recall that they are a Swiss-owned chain. In Switzerland I understand the
food is not too good, but very enjoyable in Toronto. Believe I also heard
they were expanding into upper New York State. Don't know if that ever
happened.

IIRC you do kind of have to fight for your food <g>

Chris in Pearland, TX

In article >, "Christine" > wrote:
>
>"Shirley Hicks" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:07 +1000, Kajikit >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
>>>08:29:29 -0400:
>>>
>>>>LM wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my
>>>>> hands.
>>>>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>>>>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>>>>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll
>>>>> be
>>>>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention
>>>>> Centre.

Take a look at this message board. It's all about Toronto eats.
http://www.chowhound.com/canada/boar...o/toronto.html


_
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_______// Marion NY
(________) Clinical Pharmacist
\ /
| Rx |
/______\
(________)

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:07 +1000, Kajikit >
wrote:

>Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
>08:29:29 -0400:
>
>>LM wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
>
>Go to Les Marche (sp?)

Movenpick's Le Marche (accent over e) See some reviews at:
http://www.virtualtourist.com/vt/dc8fa/2/5ed/
It's quite popular and the line up can get long at brunch on weekends,
during the week at lunch and dinner....

<description snipped>

Shirley Hicks
TB

"A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment."
- Garrison Keillor

Dave Smith had something important to tell us on Tue, 28 Sep 2004
08:29:29 -0400:

>LM wrote:
>
>> I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>> What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>> Can't be anything very expensive tho, we'll be on a budget.
>> We'll have a car, but would prefer to use public transport, and we'll be
>> staying in a hotel not too far from the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.

Go to Les Marche (sp?) It's a french market-style restaurant and you
walk around the food stations and choose what you want to eat and they
prepare it for you on the spot and stamp your card so the cashier
knows what you need to pay for. It's not exactly cheap but you can
spend hours there nibbling away at the stuff. MMMMM!!!!!!!!!! You can
also get their goodies to take away. We were very impressed
--
~Karen AKA Kajikit
Lover of shiny things...

Made as of 26th Sept 2004 - 115 cards, 66 SB pages, 14 digital SB pages, 72 decos

Visit my webpage: http://www.kajikitscorner.com
Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:42:14 -0500, LM > wrote:

>I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?

I have it on good authority that Ali's Roti Shop on Queen Street West is the
culinary equivalent of a crack-house. They make Trinidadian "Doubles" which are
to die for.

Aloha,
mel

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:40:11 GMT, Mel Matsuoka >
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:42:14 -0500, LM > wrote:
>
>>I'll be in Toronto, Canada in a couple weeks with some time on my hands.
>>What would people recommend doing/seeing/eating while there?
>
>I have it on good authority that Ali's Roti Shop on Queen Street West is the
>culinary equivalent of a crack-house. They make Trinidadian "Doubles" which are
>to die for.

Yesss!!!!!! IIRC, it's on the north side, just east of Bathurst.

Shirley Hicks
Toronto, Ontario
TB

"A liberal is a conservative who's been through treatment."
- Garrison Keillor

Wow, you might as well ask where to eat in New York. There are so many
places. Especially expensive places.

We had a nice dinner at LaLot, which is new and doesn't make the lists.
But not inexpensive
Also a fun place was "five doors north" on Spadina (say Spa-dy-na, not
spa-dee-na.
You say Spadeena, I say Spadyna. You say Rageena, I say Ragyna, let's
call the whole thing off, eh?) Not too pricey.

Oooh, and I have to mention the amazing breakfast I had at a place
called, "Insomnia." Bloor and Bathurst. Not cheap, but wonderful.

Head East on Bloor to the Korean enclave and get some Walnut Cakes.
These are little walnut shaped (I mean, 3D, batter based walnut
simulacrums) filled delights that, as far as I know, are unique to
Toronto.

The Kensington Market area is fun for the food inclined.

And if you haven't tried bubble tea, try some.

Forget dining around St Lawrence Market for lunch - dine IN st.
lawrence market for lunch.

Definitely buy a transit pass. You can ride the train, the buss, and
the cablecar and get anywhere you want to go.

Also have some of my ice cream - Greg's Ice Cream. Ok, it's not really
_mine_, which probably explains why I couldn't talk them into a
freebie. I should look in to truth in advertising laws in Ontario.

Zagats has a Toronto restaurant guide (and they have a free
downloadable PDA version) that is usefull. We also liked the Frommers
guide. Guidebooks are great resources. Chowhound.com also has Toronto
info. There's so much info availlable, your head could explode.

I go to Toronto every couple of years for months at a time.

I had the most wonderful meal at a restaurant called "Chiado" which is
Portuguese. It's on University and really is one of the really fine meals
I've had.

Bistro 99, near the hotel I usually stay at is very nice and convenient.

I love a little restaurant on Church Street (near Wellesley) called
Byzantium

There's a very happening Greek restaurant called Lola's or Lolita's (I
forget) which is very nice (but very noisy).


"Zywicki" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Wow, you might as well ask where to eat in New York. There are so many
> places. Especially expensive places.
>
> We had a nice dinner at LaLot, which is new and doesn't make the lists.
> But not inexpensive
> Also a fun place was "five doors north" on Spadina (say Spa-dy-na, not
> spa-dee-na.
> You say Spadeena, I say Spadyna. You say Rageena, I say Ragyna, let's
> call the whole thing off, eh?) Not too pricey.
>
> Oooh, and I have to mention the amazing breakfast I had at a place
> called, "Insomnia." Bloor and Bathurst. Not cheap, but wonderful.
>
> Head East on Bloor to the Korean enclave and get some Walnut Cakes.
> These are little walnut shaped (I mean, 3D, batter based walnut
> simulacrums) filled delights that, as far as I know, are unique to
> Toronto.
>
> The Kensington Market area is fun for the food inclined.
>
> And if you haven't tried bubble tea, try some.
>
> Forget dining around St Lawrence Market for lunch - dine IN st.
> lawrence market for lunch.
>
> Definitely buy a transit pass. You can ride the train, the buss, and
> the cablecar and get anywhere you want to go.
>
> Also have some of my ice cream - Greg's Ice Cream. Ok, it's not really
> _mine_, which probably explains why I couldn't talk them into a
> freebie. I should look in to truth in advertising laws in Ontario.
>
> Zagats has a Toronto restaurant guide (and they have a free
> downloadable PDA version) that is usefull. We also liked the Frommers
> guide. Guidebooks are great resources. Chowhound.com also has Toronto
> info. There's so much info availlable, your head could explode.
>

I go to Toronto every couple of years for months at a time.

I had the most wonderful meal at a restaurant called "Chiado" which is
Portuguese. It's on University and really is one of the really fine meals
I've had.

Bistro 99, near the hotel I usually stay at is very nice and convenient.

I love a little restaurant on Church Street (near Wellesley) called
Byzantium

There's a very happening Greek restaurant called Lola's or Lolita's (I
forget) which is very nice (but very noisy).


"Zywicki" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Wow, you might as well ask where to eat in New York. There are so many
> places. Especially expensive places.
>
> We had a nice dinner at LaLot, which is new and doesn't make the lists.
> But not inexpensive
> Also a fun place was "five doors north" on Spadina (say Spa-dy-na, not
> spa-dee-na.
> You say Spadeena, I say Spadyna. You say Rageena, I say Ragyna, let's
> call the whole thing off, eh?) Not too pricey.
>
> Oooh, and I have to mention the amazing breakfast I had at a place
> called, "Insomnia." Bloor and Bathurst. Not cheap, but wonderful.
>
> Head East on Bloor to the Korean enclave and get some Walnut Cakes.
> These are little walnut shaped (I mean, 3D, batter based walnut
> simulacrums) filled delights that, as far as I know, are unique to
> Toronto.
>
> The Kensington Market area is fun for the food inclined.
>
> And if you haven't tried bubble tea, try some.
>
> Forget dining around St Lawrence Market for lunch - dine IN st.
> lawrence market for lunch.
>
> Definitely buy a transit pass. You can ride the train, the buss, and
> the cablecar and get anywhere you want to go.
>
> Also have some of my ice cream - Greg's Ice Cream. Ok, it's not really
> _mine_, which probably explains why I couldn't talk them into a
> freebie. I should look in to truth in advertising laws in Ontario.
>
> Zagats has a Toronto restaurant guide (and they have a free
> downloadable PDA version) that is usefull. We also liked the Frommers
> guide. Guidebooks are great resources. Chowhound.com also has Toronto
> info. There's so much info availlable, your head could explode.
>