http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_sc/foie_gras

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JaKe, Seattle
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If you are reading it in English
thank a veteran."

JaKe > wrote in
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> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...e=4&u=/ap/2004
> 0930/ap_on_sc/foie_gras

I guess they're not ducking the issue. What's stuffing for the goose
is stuffing for the gander. This quacks me up.

--

"It is easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated
comfortably on the back of a camel, than it is for
a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle."

Supply Side Jesus

One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
> sc/foie_gras

I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
be a better way...


--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF

One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
> sc/foie_gras

I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
be a better way...


--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF

"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
> >
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
> > sc/foie_gras
>
> I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> be a better way...
>

Not to make foie gras.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
> >
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
> > sc/foie_gras
>
> I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> be a better way...
>

Not to make foie gras.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.

"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
>> sc/foie_gras
>
> I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> be a better way...
>


Nope - no better way. See Below:

foie gras
[FWAH GRAH]
Although the literal translation from French is "fat liver," foie gras is
the term generally used for goose liver . This specialty of Alsace and
Perigord, is in fact, the enlarged liver from a goose or duck that has been
force-fed and fattened over a period of 4 to 5 months. These specially bred
fowl are not permitted to exercise - which, combined with the overeating,
creates a huge (up to 3 pounds), fatty liver. After the bird is killed, the
liver is soaked overnight in milk, water or port. It's drained, then
marinated in a mixture usually consisting of ARMAGNAC, PORT or MADEIRA and
various seasonings. The livers are then cooked, usually by baking. The
preparation, of course, depends on the cook. In general, goose liver is
considered superior to duck liver; all foie gras is very expensive. At its
best, it is a delicate rosy color with mottlings of beige. The flavor is
extraordinarily rich and the texture silky smooth. Pté de foie gras is
pureed goose liver (by law, 80 percent) that usually contains other foods
such as pork liver, TRUFFLES and eggs. Mousse or puree de foie gras must
contain at least 55 percent goose liver. Foie gras should be served chilled
with thin, buttered toast slices. A SAUTERNES is the perfect accompaniment.
© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsst...1999/story.htm

"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
>> sc/foie_gras
>
> I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> be a better way...
>


Nope - no better way. See Below:

foie gras
[FWAH GRAH]
Although the literal translation from French is "fat liver," foie gras is
the term generally used for goose liver . This specialty of Alsace and
Perigord, is in fact, the enlarged liver from a goose or duck that has been
force-fed and fattened over a period of 4 to 5 months. These specially bred
fowl are not permitted to exercise - which, combined with the overeating,
creates a huge (up to 3 pounds), fatty liver. After the bird is killed, the
liver is soaked overnight in milk, water or port. It's drained, then
marinated in a mixture usually consisting of ARMAGNAC, PORT or MADEIRA and
various seasonings. The livers are then cooked, usually by baking. The
preparation, of course, depends on the cook. In general, goose liver is
considered superior to duck liver; all foie gras is very expensive. At its
best, it is a delicate rosy color with mottlings of beige. The flavor is
extraordinarily rich and the texture silky smooth. Pté de foie gras is
pureed goose liver (by law, 80 percent) that usually contains other foods
such as pork liver, TRUFFLES and eggs. Mousse or puree de foie gras must
contain at least 55 percent goose liver. Foie gras should be served chilled
with thin, buttered toast slices. A SAUTERNES is the perfect accompaniment.
© Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by

http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsst...1999/story.htm

JaKe > wrote in message >...
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_sc/foie_gras

Oh man, and two days ago he signed the "no smoking in prison"
law...man, California is no fun anymore.

JaKe > wrote in message >...
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_sc/foie_gras

Oh man, and two days ago he signed the "no smoking in prison"
law...man, California is no fun anymore.

Cindy wrote:

> Oh man, and two days ago he signed the "no smoking in prison"
> law...man, California is no fun anymore.

It's heartwarming to see that the governor is setting aside such trifling
issues as the state budget and the still-overwhelming influx of illegal
aliens to concentrate on the IMPORTANT issues.

Bob

One time on Usenet, "Dimitri" > said:
> "Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
> ...
> > One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...20040930/ap_on
> _ sc/foie_gras
> >
> > I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> > be a better way...

> Nope - no better way. See Below:

Thank you (and Peter) for the info -- I had no idea; I just assumed
that foie gras was made from plain old liver...


--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF

"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
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> One time on Usenet, "Dimitri" > said:
>> "Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
>>
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...20040930/ap_on
>> _ sc/foie_gras
>> >
>> > I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
>> > be a better way...
>
>> Nope - no better way. See Below:
>
> Thank you (and Peter) for the info -- I had no idea; I just assumed
> that foie gras was made from plain old liver...


IIRC the force feeding causes the liver to overproduce bile and ergo grows
and grows....

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

> "Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>One time on Usenet, "Dimitri" > said:
>>
>>>"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>>
>>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...20040930/ap_on
>>>_ sc/foie_gras
>>>
>>>>I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
>>>>be a better way...
>>
>>>Nope - no better way. See Below:
>>
>>Thank you (and Peter) for the info -- I had no idea; I just assumed
>>that foie gras was made from plain old liver...
>
>
>
> IIRC the force feeding causes the liver to overproduce bile and ergo grows
> and grows....
>
> Dimitri
>
>
Don't think so. The physiopathology behind it is that large amounts of
calories over a short period of time, cause a condition known as acute
fatty liver. Hence, the liver is infiltrated with fat (taste,) and
becomes quite large.

There was a documentary (Biggie size me?) in which a man was placed on a
McDonald diet, and after one month, he developed a fatty liver.

Rich

--
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As long as I breath, I hope.

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Let there be fish!!!

"Richard Periut" > wrote in message
...
> Dimitri wrote:
>
>> "Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>One time on Usenet, "Dimitri" > said:
>>>
>>>>"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>>One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>>>
>>>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...20040930/ap_on
>>>>_ sc/foie_gras
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
>>>>>be a better way...
>>>
>>>>Nope - no better way. See Below:
>>>
>>>Thank you (and Peter) for the info -- I had no idea; I just assumed
>>>that foie gras was made from plain old liver...
>>
>>
>>
>> IIRC the force feeding causes the liver to overproduce bile and ergo
>> grows and grows....
>>
>> Dimitri
> Don't think so. The physiopathology behind it is that large amounts of
> calories over a short period of time, cause a condition known as acute
> fatty liver. Hence, the liver is infiltrated with fat (taste,) and becomes
> quite large.
>
> There was a documentary (Biggie size me?) in which a man was placed on a
> McDonald diet, and after one month, he developed a fatty liver.
>

The film is called "Super Size Me" and the filmaker placed HIMSELF on a
diet of nothing but McDonald's fare.

Stupid.

On 2004-09-30, Bob > wrote:
>
> It's heartwarming to see that the governor is setting aside such trifling
> issues as the state budget and the still-overwhelming influx of illegal
> aliens to concentrate on the IMPORTANT issues.

He's an embarrasment. Hell, they can't keep drugs out of prison, how are
they going to stop cigarettes? More crime based on new contraband. It's
absurd.

nb

JaKe wrote:

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_sc/foie_gras
>
I love the part that says:"


The bill will also ban the sale of foie gras in California starting that
same year if it's obtained by force feeding birds.

Schwarzenegger, who received pleas from several celebrities, including
former Beatle Paul McCartney, to sign the bill, said it gives producers
more than seven years to "evolve and perfect a humane way for a duck to
consume grain to increase the size of its liver through natural processes."

I wonder if his nibs would pass a bill requiring bodybuilders to only
bulk up naturally as well.
--
Alan

"I don't think you can win the war on terror."

...George (flip-flop) Bush, 8/30/2004

Gal Called J.J. wrote:

> One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:
>
>
>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...0040930/ap_on_
>>sc/foie_gras
>
>
> I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> be a better way...
>
>
I guess you could invite them to dine at the Cheesecake Factory. That
should fatten them up in no time.

--
Alan

"I don't think you can win the war on terror."

...George (flip-flop) Bush, 8/30/2004

This is the same dude who won 11 world championships while
stuffing his muscles with dianabol.

--Blair
"I wonder if he keeps his
mitral valve in a jar."

Jack Schidt® > wrote:
>The film is called "Super Size Me" and the filmaker placed HIMSELF on a
>diet of nothing but McDonald's fare.
>
>Stupid.

What's stupid is that there's a restaurant that purports to serve
"meals" that are guaranteed to be unhealthy.

--Blair
"Now, if it was a 'snack'..."

"Blair P. Houghton" > wrote in message
...
> Jack Schidt® > wrote:
>>The film is called "Super Size Me" and the filmaker placed HIMSELF on a
>>diet of nothing but McDonald's fare.
>>
>>Stupid.
>
> What's stupid is that there's a restaurant that purports to serve
> "meals" that are guaranteed to be unhealthy.
>
> --Blair
> "Now, if it was a 'snack'..."

Yes, that and they've failed in the mission of serving an affordable lunch
to all.

Jack Grimace

JaKe > wrote in message >...
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...n_sc/foie_gras

It's about freaking time.

-L.

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> Cindy wrote:
>
> > Oh man, and two days ago he signed the "no smoking in prison"
> > law...man, California is no fun anymore.
>
> It's heartwarming to see that the governor is setting aside such
trifling
> issues as the state budget and the still-overwhelming influx of
illegal
> aliens to concentrate on the IMPORTANT issues.

1) The California state budget was completed months ago.
2) Controlling the borders is the responsibility of the Federal
Government.
3) California's state legislature, which is controlled by a majority
of Democrats, was responsible for passing the two new laws mentioned
here. These were not bills that were sponsored by the governor. He
signed them because they were already passed and he had no specific
reason to veto them.

Incidentally, the law banning the force feeding of geese will not be
effective until 2012.

One time on Usenet, alzelt > said:
> Gal Called J.J. wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, JaKe > said:

> >>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../20040930/ap_o
> >>n_sc/foie_gras

> > I didn't realize that ducks and geese *were* force fed. There must
> > be a better way...

> I guess you could invite them to dine at the Cheesecake Factory. That
> should fatten them up in no time.

Now Alan, you just said last week that there are "not enough fat
and calories in their items"... ;->


--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF

notbob > wrote in message news:<0u37d.182692$3l3.161549@attbi_s03>...
> On 2004-09-30, Bob > wrote:
> >
> > It's heartwarming to see that the governor is setting aside such trifling
> > issues as the state budget and the still-overwhelming influx of illegal
> > aliens to concentrate on the IMPORTANT issues.
>
> He's an embarrasment. Hell, they can't keep drugs out of prison, how are
> they going to stop cigarettes? More crime based on new contraband. It's
> absurd.
>
> nb

What's more important is that the prisoners are not longer going to be
able to eat foie gras. Take away their foie gras and cigarettes? Now
that is cruel and unusual punishment!