On 13 Oct 2004 07:46:19 -0700, (Mike) arranged
random neurons, so they looked like this:

>Golden age of silverware
>As time passed, however, silverware — made of silver plating or
>sterling silver — became a defining tradition at special meals and
>celebrations. Today, it is a form of wealth passed down from
>generation to generation.
>at http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20041...3538-6108r.htm

Interesting. I inherited my mother's silver service, a service for 12,
that includes iced tea spoons, fish knives and fish forks! I haul them
out on holidays and special occasions, along with my grandmother's
Noritaki china that she had as a wedding gift in 1912.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Just what kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?" Danae
in "Non Sequitur"

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On 13 Oct 2004 07:46:19 -0700, (Mike) arranged
random neurons, so they looked like this:

>Golden age of silverware
>As time passed, however, silverware — made of silver plating or
>sterling silver — became a defining tradition at special meals and
>celebrations. Today, it is a form of wealth passed down from
>generation to generation.
>at http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20041...3538-6108r.htm

Interesting. I inherited my mother's silver service, a service for 12,
that includes iced tea spoons, fish knives and fish forks! I haul them
out on holidays and special occasions, along with my grandmother's
Noritaki china that she had as a wedding gift in 1912.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Just what kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?" Danae
in "Non Sequitur"

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

> Interesting. I inherited my mother's silver service, a service for 12,
> that includes iced tea spoons, fish knives and fish forks! I haul them
> out on holidays and special occasions, along with my grandmother's
> Noritaki china that she had as a wedding gift in 1912.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA
>

I actually inherited our silverware and china from my husband's ex-wife. As
with you, hauled out for special occasions. Now we are retiring so we are
taking 33 K of Royal Doulton Sarabande back to England to give to my
step-daughter. The dining room suite is going to my son, the silverware to
my daughter. We hardly use it any longer and are going to very small
accomodations, so by-by fancy shmancy!

> Interesting. I inherited my mother's silver service, a service for 12,
> that includes iced tea spoons, fish knives and fish forks! I haul them
> out on holidays and special occasions, along with my grandmother's
> Noritaki china that she had as a wedding gift in 1912.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

You are missing the little fruit knives and demi tasse spoons. We
also had bone marrow spoons in our silver set, with long handles. )
Where did your Mother come from? Most American sets did not have the
fish knives and forks, but did have shrimp forks. My son inherited my
Parents' silver, but much of it was lost or sold during emigration.

I received Noritake china as a "first apartment" gift from my parents
in 1947, Service for 16 (two sets for 8) in plain white and I still
have almost all the pieces. Terry, you ate off it last year. )

Mike wrote:
>
> Golden age of silverware
> As time passed, however, silverware ? made of silver plating or
> sterling silver ? became a defining tradition at special meals and
> celebrations. Today, it is a form of wealth passed down from
> generation to generation.

It makes sense. Silver is no longer used in the coinage so any
set that uses a large amount of silver will be considered stored
wealth suitable for passing down to the next generation. Like
gold, platinum and silver jewelry.

Also, now that stainless steel flatware is common it dominates
most usage. It is dishwasher safe, stronger than silver, does
not conduct the heat of the food into your hand as much, and
so on.

Since stainless is common and silver is expensive, it makes
perfect sense that silver is now used on special occasions.

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:51:44 -0400, Margaret Suran
> arranged random neurons, so they
looked like this:

>You are missing the little fruit knives and demi tasse spoons. We
>also had bone marrow spoons in our silver set, with long handles. )
>Where did your Mother come from? Most American sets did not have the
>fish knives and forks, but did have shrimp forks. My son inherited my
>Parents' silver, but much of it was lost or sold during emigration.

No, I have the demi tasse spoons and you just explained what the
little knives are (we never used them growing up, so never inquired as
to what they were). Mother was born and bred American, as was her
entire line back to about 1720-something. Her mother however, was an
absolute stickler for etiquette and had the money to make sure her
kitchen (and, thus, her daughter's silver service) was above reproach.
This has a degree of irony, however, as my father was a career Air
Force officer and Mother could never use her silver service when she
entertained other military people as she was afraid she'd appear
trying to look "above her station." That wood box of silver lived
under her bed for about 40 years, not even taking it out for holidays.
Like the linens, nightgowns and such that I gave her over the years,
she put them away "for good." I gave them away after she died...still
in their original wrappings.
>
>I received Noritake china as a "first apartment" gift from my parents
>in 1947, Service for 16 (two sets for 8) in plain white and I still
>have almost all the pieces. Terry, you ate off it last year. )

And I have the photographs to prove it! Beautiful stuff, Margaret, but
not as lovely as your hospitality at Barb's brunch! Thank you again.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Just what kind of jackassery do I have to put up with today?" Danae
in "Non Sequitur"

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Mike wrote:

> Golden age of silverware
> As time passed, however, silverware — made of silver plating or
> sterling silver — became a defining tradition at special meals and
> celebrations. Today, it is a form of wealth passed down from
> generation to generation.
> at http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20041...3538-6108r.htm


Interesting. I use silverplated flatware everyday. My 1920s Art Deco
Oneida Deauville pattern flatware & hollowware was found unused at an
antique shop for $80 for service for 12. Place settings, two water
pitchers, two sets of salt & pepper shakers, tea set, trays, covered
butter. About six years later I stumbled upon the matching china.

I married into a society family. I about fell over the first time I
served a meal at the lake house and discovered that Gr. Gr.
Grandmother's Shreve Crump & Low sterling was "camp silverware" the
"good stuff" being Tiffany was what my husband's grandmother used at home.

Jessica

"Jessica V." > wrote in
:

> Mike wrote:
>
>> Golden age of silverware
>> As time passed, however, silverware — made of silver plating or
>> sterling silver — became a defining tradition at special meals and
>> celebrations. Today, it is a form of wealth passed down from
>> generation to generation.
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20041...3538-6108r.htm
>
>
> Interesting. I use silverplated flatware everyday. My 1920s Art Deco
> Oneida Deauville pattern flatware & hollowware was found unused at an
> antique shop for $80 for service for 12. Place settings, two water
> pitchers, two sets of salt & pepper shakers, tea set, trays, covered
> butter. About six years later I stumbled upon the matching china.
>
> I married into a society family. I about fell over the first time I
> served a meal at the lake house and discovered that Gr. Gr.
> Grandmother's Shreve Crump & Low sterling was "camp silverware" the
> "good stuff" being Tiffany was what my husband's grandmother used at
> home.
>
> Jessica

I have never purchased flatware. Just as I was moving into my first
apartment, my great-grandmother passed away and I was given her everyday
sterling flatware, which I've used for many years. Along the way I also
inherited from a dear friend in the UK, a beautiful George Jensen art
deco silver service. I'm so fond of it that I bought a set of art deco
china to use with it. It's often used for special occasions, but no
longer for the holidays. When my mother passed away a few years ago, I
inherited her very ornate sterling and china which we now use for
holidays. The only stainless steel utensils we have are various
mismatched pieces we use in the kitchen while cooking.

--
It's me, Baker!

When the Chips are Down,
the Buffalo is Empty.

"Jessica V." > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> I married into a society family. I about fell over the first time I
> served a meal at the lake house and discovered that Gr. Gr. Grandmother's
> Shreve Crump & Low sterling was "camp silverware" the "good stuff" being
> Tiffany was what my husband's grandmother used at home.
>
> Jessica

Oh, Jessica, they just have to be Bostonians. Like Boston ladies who don't
BUY hats because they HAVE their hats, Boston families HAVE their silver!

Felice

baker > wrote in message >...
> I have never purchased flatware. Just as I was moving into my first
> apartment, my great-grandmother passed away and I was given her everyday
> sterling flatware, which I've used for many years. Along the way I also
> inherited from a dear friend in the UK, a beautiful George Jensen art
> deco silver service. I'm so fond of it that I bought a set of art deco
> china to use with it. It's often used for special occasions, but no
> longer for the holidays. When my mother passed away a few years ago, I
> inherited her very ornate sterling and china which we now use for
> holidays. The only stainless steel utensils we have are various
> mismatched pieces we use in the kitchen while cooking.

Have you hand-washed, or used the dishwasher, for everyday use?

Karen

Felice Friese wrote:
> "Jessica V." > wrote in message
> ...
>
> <snip>
>
>>I married into a society family. I about fell over the first time I
>>served a meal at the lake house and discovered that Gr. Gr. Grandmother's
>>Shreve Crump & Low sterling was "camp silverware" the "good stuff" being
>>Tiffany was what my husband's grandmother used at home.
>>
>>Jessica
>
>
> Oh, Jessica, they just have to be Bostonians. Like Boston ladies who don't
> BUY hats because they HAVE their hats, Boston families HAVE their silver!
>
> Felice
>
>

You nailed that one. Boston ladies from 1765-1948, 48 moved them "all
the way" out to Weston. It was quite the experience marrying into that
at 22.

Jessica

"Jessica V." wrote:
>
> Felice Friese wrote:

> >
> >
> > Oh, Jessica, they just have to be Bostonians. Like Boston ladies who don't
> > BUY hats because they HAVE their hats, Boston families HAVE their silver!
> >
> > Felice
> >
> >
>
> You nailed that one. Boston ladies from 1765-1948, 48 moved them "all
> the way" out to Weston. It was quite the experience marrying into that
> at 22.
>
> Jessica


If you haven't read "Colony" by Anne Rivers Siddons,
I recommend it to you..

gloria p

(Karen O'Mara) wrote in
om:

> baker > wrote in message
> >...
>> I have never purchased flatware. Just as I was moving into my first
>> apartment, my great-grandmother passed away and I was given her
>> everyday sterling flatware, which I've used for many years. Along
>> the way I also inherited from a dear friend in the UK, a beautiful
>> George Jensen art deco silver service. I'm so fond of it that I
>> bought a set of art deco china to use with it. It's often used for
>> special occasions, but no longer for the holidays. When my mother
>> passed away a few years ago, I inherited her very ornate sterling and
>> china which we now use for holidays. The only stainless steel
>> utensils we have are various mismatched pieces we use in the kitchen
>> while cooking.
>
> Have you hand-washed, or used the dishwasher, for everyday use?
>
> Karen
>

The everyday silver goes in the dishwasher, but I'm careful to never
combine it with stainless steel. It has over a hundred years of patina
on it, which gives it a wonderful well-used look. The other two sets are
always hand-washed.

--
It's me, Baker!

When the Chips are Down,
the Buffalo is Empty.

On 15 Oct 2004 09:54:50 -0700, (Karen O'Mara) wrote:

>baker > wrote in message
>...
>> I have never purchased flatware. Just as I was moving into my
first
>> apartment, my great-grandmother passed away and I was given her
>> inherited her very ornate sterling and china which we now use for
>> holidays. The only stainless steel utensils we have are various
>> mismatched pieces we use in the kitchen while cooking.
>
>Have you hand-washed, or used the dishwasher, for everyday use?
>
>Karen

I find the detergent in a dish washer matters. We have been using
that dawn/cascade packet and I have been hand washing the silver
instead. I have just polished all my silver (Wright's Silver Polish)
and it took about 3 hours one day. Like the other poster, my
grandmother died when I got married and I have always had her stuff as
it was all I could afford for so many years. Seriously. Then when I
could buy my own stainless ware, I didn't want to.

aloha,
Thunder
smithfarms.com
Farmers of 100% Kona Coffee
& other Great Stuff

On 14 Oct 2004 08:51:07 -0700, (Doug Freyburger)
wrote:

>Since stainless is common and silver is expensive, it makes
>perfect sense that silver is now used on special occasions.

Weird. I've used my sterling every day of my adult life. Never had the
spare cash (or desire) to get a set of "stainless."

Frogleg wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
> > Since stainless is common and silver is expensive, it makes
> > perfect sense that silver is now used on special occasions.

My parents received a set of silverplate and a set of stainless
as wedding presents when the married in the late 1940s. Ever
since the silverplate has been for special occasions.

> Weird. I've used my sterling every day of my adult life. Never had the
> spare cash (or desire) to get a set of "stainless."

Did you buy your own sterling or did you receive them as an
inheritance, gift or whatever? If I had inheritted a set or
gotten a set as a gift, I would still be using it is well.

I had to buy my own, and when I bought my first set there was a
factor of 10 or more price difference between stainless and
sterling. Since stainless performs well, to this day I have not
yet bothered to spring the extra dollars of a sterling set yet
I've given away a few stainless sets to the kids when they moved
out and replaced them with other stainless sets.

(Doug Freyburger) wrote in message
> Did you buy your own sterling or did you receive them as an
> inheritance, gift or whatever? If I had inheritted a set or
> gotten a set as a gift, I would still be using it is well.
>
> I had to buy my own, and when I bought my first set there was a
> factor of 10 or more price difference between stainless and
> sterling. Since stainless performs well, to this day I have not
> yet bothered to spring the extra dollars of a sterling set yet
> I've given away a few stainless sets to the kids when they moved
> out and replaced them with other stainless sets.

If you don't have a fetish about super-shiny, no-patina, brand-new
sterling, check out Ebay. I managed to grab a complete set for 12,
plus extras (65 pieces in all) for less than $400 - the key was, they
were engraved with a "D." Too bad, eh? LOL.

If you aren't looking for the this week's most popular pattern, you
can get some really great bargains with great patina in beautiful
styles that will last your lifetime and more. In addition, you can
build your set at your leisure.

N.