I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now selling peeled
onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I also noticed
when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound, the peeled
ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"I actually thought about voting for John Kerry before I decided to vote
against him."

Mpoconnor7 wrote:
> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now selling peeled
> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I also noticed
> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound, the peeled
> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.

It certainly isn't a product/service I'd care to buy. I'm capable of
peeling onions for myself. But it isn't a scam. As long as the price
of both the peeled and unpeeled are clearly marked so consumers know
what they're paying for, there's nothing scammy about it.


--Lia

Mpoconnor7 wrote:
> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now selling peeled
> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I also noticed
> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound, the peeled
> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.

It certainly isn't a product/service I'd care to buy. I'm capable of
peeling onions for myself. But it isn't a scam. As long as the price
of both the peeled and unpeeled are clearly marked so consumers know
what they're paying for, there's nothing scammy about it.


--Lia

mpoconnor wrote (10/16/2004):

>I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now >selling
peeled onions in the produce section. I've never seen this >before, and I also
noticed when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would
>cost about 89 cents a pound, the peeled ones were 1.49 a pound. >Sounds like
a scam to me.

Michael (if I may call you Michael), why do you see this as a
scam? I'm asking, not attacking. I haven't seen this yet, but
I'll watch for it at Fred Meyer (a Kroger chain). I don't see that it's
a scam, though.

I wouldn't buy them, but I see it as another convenience item that
some people might buy for any number of reasons, such as they're
too busy (or think they are), they're lazy, they're not all that much
into cooking, they have some kind of disability and this might make
cooking a little easier, and so on. Not that much different from
bagged salad greens (ugh), peeled, crushed or chopped garlic
(I confess to having used these at times), RealLemon (sp?) lemon
juice (triple ugh), or, for that matter, tv dinners.

You look at the display. You see Vidalia's marked $0.89/lb. You see
the peeled onions marked $1.49/lb. You decide which you prefer to
buy, and you can take the price into account in making that decision.
Seems transparent to me.

Kevin who lives in PDX (wherever that it?????)

mpoconnor wrote (10/16/2004):

>I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now >selling
peeled onions in the produce section. I've never seen this >before, and I also
noticed when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would
>cost about 89 cents a pound, the peeled ones were 1.49 a pound. >Sounds like
a scam to me.

Michael (if I may call you Michael), why do you see this as a
scam? I'm asking, not attacking. I haven't seen this yet, but
I'll watch for it at Fred Meyer (a Kroger chain). I don't see that it's
a scam, though.

I wouldn't buy them, but I see it as another convenience item that
some people might buy for any number of reasons, such as they're
too busy (or think they are), they're lazy, they're not all that much
into cooking, they have some kind of disability and this might make
cooking a little easier, and so on. Not that much different from
bagged salad greens (ugh), peeled, crushed or chopped garlic
(I confess to having used these at times), RealLemon (sp?) lemon
juice (triple ugh), or, for that matter, tv dinners.

You look at the display. You see Vidalia's marked $0.89/lb. You see
the peeled onions marked $1.49/lb. You decide which you prefer to
buy, and you can take the price into account in making that decision.
Seems transparent to me.

Kevin who lives in PDX (wherever that it?????)

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now selling
>> peeled
>> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I also
>> noticed
>> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound, the
>> peeled
>> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.

Not a scam at all.. People are willing to pay for a service and the
processers are happy to charge them. Nothing wrong with that. Are you
employed by someone or a company? They are charging for your labor in the
cost of what they sell, so the onion peelers are getting paid also. It is
probably done by machine, but that may have cots $100,000 or more.

Yesterday I was at the deli counter of the supermarket. They had coleslaw
for $2.49 a pound. They also have a salad bar. The salad bar has many
items, including coleslaw. It is $4.99 a pound just 20 feet away. I can
make my own for about 70¢ a pound. Frozen shrimp were $5.99 in a package
in the freezer. They open the package in the seafood counter and sell them
for $8.99.

Prepared foods are the fastest growing portion of supermarket sales. People
are willing to pay for food that has been cooked already, marinated already,
peeled and packaged in little bags, etc. It can take 45 seconds to peel an
onions, so why not avoid that step and pay 70% more?

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now selling
>> peeled
>> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I also
>> noticed
>> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound, the
>> peeled
>> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.

Not a scam at all.. People are willing to pay for a service and the
processers are happy to charge them. Nothing wrong with that. Are you
employed by someone or a company? They are charging for your labor in the
cost of what they sell, so the onion peelers are getting paid also. It is
probably done by machine, but that may have cots $100,000 or more.

Yesterday I was at the deli counter of the supermarket. They had coleslaw
for $2.49 a pound. They also have a salad bar. The salad bar has many
items, including coleslaw. It is $4.99 a pound just 20 feet away. I can
make my own for about 70¢ a pound. Frozen shrimp were $5.99 in a package
in the freezer. They open the package in the seafood counter and sell them
for $8.99.

Prepared foods are the fastest growing portion of supermarket sales. People
are willing to pay for food that has been cooked already, marinated already,
peeled and packaged in little bags, etc. It can take 45 seconds to peel an
onions, so why not avoid that step and pay 70% more?

>I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
>seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
>dicing my own onions.
>
>Michael

Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste, so
it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink). If
I frequently used a lot of onions all at once I may consider buying pre-prepped
onions... but normally I don't use so many at once and prepped they'd likely
spoil a whole lot faster. I'm sure most restaurants will use them (or already
do)... took a while for restaurants to accept pre-peeled garlic too, but once
they realize the savings in not having to employ someone full time just to peel
hundred wt sacks of onions all day they will accept paying the few cents extra
for the convenience as well... heck very few delis make their own slaw, tater
salad, and mac salad anymore either. And folks buy tons of bagged mixed salad
greens already, even though I find they stink, literally.


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>I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
>seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
>dicing my own onions.
>
>Michael

Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste, so
it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink). If
I frequently used a lot of onions all at once I may consider buying pre-prepped
onions... but normally I don't use so many at once and prepped they'd likely
spoil a whole lot faster. I'm sure most restaurants will use them (or already
do)... took a while for restaurants to accept pre-peeled garlic too, but once
they realize the savings in not having to employ someone full time just to peel
hundred wt sacks of onions all day they will accept paying the few cents extra
for the convenience as well... heck very few delis make their own slaw, tater
salad, and mac salad anymore either. And folks buy tons of bagged mixed salad
greens already, even though I find they stink, literally.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

>You look at the display. You see Vidalia's marked $0.89/lb. You see
>the peeled onions marked $1.49/lb. You decide which you prefer to
>buy, and you can take the price into account in making that decision.
>Seems transparent to me.
>
>Kevin

60¢/pound difference... but by the time you hack off the root end, stem end,
and and slip off the first layer or two that price gap practically
disappears.... and when you consider your time it's a wash.

Naturally the onion growers must've come up with this idea to mitigate what
would otherwise be a total loss. Since onions tend to rot from the outter
layer in, layer by layer.... caught soon enough the consumer pays in full for
what would otherwise be the grower's loss. It's like how the consumer buying
cut up chicken parts pays for all those diseased parts that are channeled into
pet food... I've never yet noticed a pack of parts where they all come from the
same bird. There must be a use for all those steenkin' rotten onion parings...
perhaps franco-italiano schnapps.

---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

>You look at the display. You see Vidalia's marked $0.89/lb. You see
>the peeled onions marked $1.49/lb. You decide which you prefer to
>buy, and you can take the price into account in making that decision.
>Seems transparent to me.
>
>Kevin

60¢/pound difference... but by the time you hack off the root end, stem end,
and and slip off the first layer or two that price gap practically
disappears.... and when you consider your time it's a wash.

Naturally the onion growers must've come up with this idea to mitigate what
would otherwise be a total loss. Since onions tend to rot from the outter
layer in, layer by layer.... caught soon enough the consumer pays in full for
what would otherwise be the grower's loss. It's like how the consumer buying
cut up chicken parts pays for all those diseased parts that are channeled into
pet food... I've never yet noticed a pack of parts where they all come from the
same bird. There must be a use for all those steenkin' rotten onion parings...
perhaps franco-italiano schnapps.

---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

they are charging for the labor of peeling and personly i would not buy
the peeled as the plastic bag gets in the flavor and that they seem to
go bad ( rot ) faster , plus loose flavor...just what I think as a 30+
year produce person

they are charging for the labor of peeling and personly i would not buy
the peeled as the plastic bag gets in the flavor and that they seem to
go bad ( rot ) faster , plus loose flavor...just what I think as a 30+
year produce person

you hit it all right Kevin

you hit it all right Kevin

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>
>> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now
>> selling peeled
>> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I
>> also noticed
>> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound,
>> the peeled
>> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.
>
>
> It certainly isn't a product/service I'd care to buy. I'm capable of
> peeling onions for myself. But it isn't a scam. As long as the price
> of both the peeled and unpeeled are clearly marked so consumers know
> what they're paying for, there's nothing scammy about it.
>
>
> --Lia
>
Nothing new with peeled onions. For eons, red onions have been available
peeled or not.
--
Alan

"I don't think you can win the war on terror."

...George (flip-flop) Bush, 8/30/2004

Julia Altshuler wrote:

> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>
>> I was shopping at Kroger the other day and noticed they are now
>> selling peeled
>> onions in the produce section. I've never seen this before, and I
>> also noticed
>> when the unpeeled Vidalia onions would cost about 89 cents a pound,
>> the peeled
>> ones were 1.49 a pound. Sounds like a scam to me.
>
>
> It certainly isn't a product/service I'd care to buy. I'm capable of
> peeling onions for myself. But it isn't a scam. As long as the price
> of both the peeled and unpeeled are clearly marked so consumers know
> what they're paying for, there's nothing scammy about it.
>
>
> --Lia
>
Nothing new with peeled onions. For eons, red onions have been available
peeled or not.
--
Alan

"I don't think you can win the war on terror."

...George (flip-flop) Bush, 8/30/2004

I know we have been arguing , but no an onion , like potatoe usally rots
inside out , because of the refrigeration that they are shipped
in....new crop will hold up better than old but most produce rots from
the inside out..have you ever cut an apple and seen how it was black in
the middle or a potatoe same thing , that was due to cold storage and
the sugar content inside them...and you are right an onion will mold but
that is due to the weather at harvest time...rain or no rain ...they
have alot of moisture in them when they get harvested , that is why they
store so well at your house...ok hoped i helped see ya

I know we have been arguing , but no an onion , like potatoe usally rots
inside out , because of the refrigeration that they are shipped
in....new crop will hold up better than old but most produce rots from
the inside out..have you ever cut an apple and seen how it was black in
the middle or a potatoe same thing , that was due to cold storage and
the sugar content inside them...and you are right an onion will mold but
that is due to the weather at harvest time...rain or no rain ...they
have alot of moisture in them when they get harvested , that is why they
store so well at your house...ok hoped i helped see ya

yesssssssss

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
> >seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
> >dicing my own onions.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste,
so
> it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink).

I just put the peelings down the garbage disposer. I suppose it makes that
stink too, but who leans over and takes a good whiff of the bottom of their
kitchen sink? My hands stink worse than the disposer does, after the
operation.

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
> >seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
> >dicing my own onions.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste,
so
> it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink).

I just put the peelings down the garbage disposer. I suppose it makes that
stink too, but who leans over and takes a good whiff of the bottom of their
kitchen sink? My hands stink worse than the disposer does, after the
operation.

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
> >seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
> >dicing my own onions.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste,
so
> it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink).

I just put the peelings down the garbage disposer. I suppose it makes that
stink too, but who leans over and takes a good whiff of the bottom of their
kitchen sink? My hands stink worse than the disposer does, after the
operation.

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
> >seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
> >dicing my own onions.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste,
so
> it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink).

I just put the peelings down the garbage disposer. I suppose it makes that
stink too, but who leans over and takes a good whiff of the bottom of their
kitchen sink? My hands stink worse than the disposer does, after the
operation.

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >I've seen peeled onions which were either sliced or diced. I think I've
> >seen other veggies too. It's a convenience but I'm capable of slicing and
> >dicing my own onions.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Keep in mind that prepping onions results on average of about 20% waste,
so
> it's not really so prohibitively expensive (plus yer garbage won't stink).

I just put the peelings down the garbage disposer. I suppose it makes that
stink too, but who leans over and takes a good whiff of the bottom of their
kitchen sink? My hands stink worse than the disposer does, after the
operation.