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I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them?
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Manda Ruby > wrote:
>I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? Is this crabmeat, or is it still in the shell? If it is still in the shell, remove the meat from the shell before using it in any recipe that involves heating. (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply I can dig those up.) Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), heat it for as little time as possible. You do not want to cook crabcakes, crab Newburg, etc. for more than just a few minutes. Steve |
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On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to > eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), Exactly, and they've been big, firm and sweet so far this year. Eat it slightly chilled, the meat has a better texture and fuller flavor IMO. Have never warmed crabmeat up by itself for any reason. Served in a warm dip once, which was pretty awesome, but not by itself. |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:52:13 -0800 (PST), Duwop >
wrote: >On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > >> Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to >> eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), > >Exactly, and they've been big, firm and sweet so far this year. Eat it >slightly chilled, the meat has a better texture and fuller flavor >IMO. > >Have never warmed crabmeat up by itself for any reason. Served in a >warm dip once, which was pretty awesome, but not by itself. > Oh, stop yer killing me. What's a good price for dungeness now? I have to look for some. My problem is if I have to pay $2 or more, it's not a deal and I'm always looking for deals. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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sf > wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:27:38 +0000 (UTC), >>Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to >>eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), heat it >>for as little time as possible. You do not want to cook >>crabcakes, crab Newburg, etc. for more than just a few minutes. >Only the great unwashed would reheat dungeness. Even freshly cooked >(in your house) dungeness crab is at room temperature when it's eaten. I fundamentally agree. There's a certain decadence to a good crab Newburg, but I'd have to have a lot of Dungeness crab, and be real tired of crab cocktails and crab sandwiches, before I'd heat some up in a Newburg dish and not think it was at least somewhat of a waste. But if you want to do it: sautee cubes of sourdough bread in olive oil, salt them, place into a ovenproof serving dish. Top with still-warm cooked crabmeat, mixed with _une petite_ amount of fresh-made mayonaisse. Top with cheddar cheese or cheese sauce, sprinkle with paprika, place in a hot oven for about 90 seconds and serve. Steve |
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On Dec 15, 7:55*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:52:13 -0800 (PST), Duwop > > wrote: > > >On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > > >> Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to > >> eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), > > >Exactly, and they've been big, firm and sweet so far this year. Eat it > >slightly chilled, the meat has a better texture and fuller flavor > >IMO. > > >Have never warmed crabmeat up by itself for any reason. Served in a > >warm dip once, which was pretty awesome, but not by itself. > > Oh, stop yer killing me. *What's a good price for dungeness now? *I > have to look for some. *My problem is if I have to pay $2 or more, > it's not a deal and I'm always looking for deals. You'd need a time machine for $2/lb crab, with diesel costs as high as they are you're looking at $5/lb, live or cooked. Been pretty steady the last few years. Have priced HMBay docks, asian markets, etc. they're all within $1 of each other. My in-laws up in Arcata/Eureka (lots of local crab fishermen) are paying the same as we are here in the SFBA. |
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On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Manda Ruby > wrote: > > >I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? > > Is this crabmeat, or is it still in the shell? > > If it is still in the shell, remove the meat from the shell > before using it in any recipe that involves heating. > > (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply > I can dig those up.) > > Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to > eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), heat it > for as little time as possible. *You do not want to cook > crabcakes, crab Newburg, etc. for more than just a few minutes. > > Steve I thought it'd taste better hot. Aside at the restaurants, I have only had once at home. Even then, it was bought at the store that did the steaming. My sister and her husband brought it home and the three of us - I was living with them for about 10 months a long time ago - ate it right away. |
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On Dec 15, 7:55*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:52:13 -0800 (PST), Duwop > > wrote: > > >On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > > >> Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to > >> eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), > > >Exactly, and they've been big, firm and sweet so far this year. Eat it > >slightly chilled, the meat has a better texture and fuller flavor > >IMO. > > >Have never warmed crabmeat up by itself for any reason. Served in a > >warm dip once, which was pretty awesome, but not by itself. > > Oh, stop yer killing me. *What's a good price for dungeness now? *I > have to look for some. *My problem is if I have to pay $2 or more, > it's not a deal and I'm always looking for deals. Here in CA, $2.99 per lb is a *deal*. > > -- > I love cooking with wine. > Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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![]() "Manda Ruby" > wrote in message ... |I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? If you really want to heat it, may I suggest either of these Crab Norfolk recipes, or search for your own: the Crab Norfolk does the least harm and tastes awfully good with a bit of good bread: http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1845...252203,00.html or http://www.recipezaar.com/crab-norfolk-357966 pavane |
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On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Manda Ruby > wrote: > > >I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? > > Is this crabmeat, or is it still in the shell? In the shell. I was going to eat it just like that. Am too tired to do anything with. > > If it is still in the shell, remove the meat from the shell > before using it in any recipe that involves heating. > > (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply > I can dig those up.) Yes, I do. Otherise, I'll end up using a hmmer. > > Once you have cooked crabmeat, assuming you don't want to > eat it chilled (which is, in my opinion best), heat it > for as little time as possible. *You do not want to cook > crabcakes, crab Newburg, etc. for more than just a few minutes. > > Steve |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:09:37 -0800 (PST), Duwop >
wrote: >You'd need a time machine for $2/lb crab, with diesel costs as high as >they are you're looking at $5/lb, live or cooked. Been pretty steady >the last few years. Have priced HMBay docks, asian markets, etc. >they're all within $1 of each other. > >My in-laws up in Arcata/Eureka (lots of local crab fishermen) are >paying the same as we are here in the SFBA. ![]() isn't worth the cost. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Christine Dabney > wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:03:14 +0000 (UTC), >>I fundamentally agree. There's a certain decadence to a good >>crab Newburg, but I'd have to have a lot of Dungeness crab, >>and be real tired of crab cocktails and crab sandwiches, before >>I'd heat some up in a Newburg dish and not think it was at >>least somewhat of a waste. >James Beard, who really knew his Dungeness, has some great recipes for >crab... There are several in his autobiographical book, Delights and >Prejudices. From what I have read, it was not a waste to use the crab >in these recipes. For sure. Although, he perhaps dated from the time when the crab you didn't eat was fed to the farm animals, there was so much of it... S. |
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sf > wrote:
> ![]() >isn't worth the cost. Hie ye to Hudson Fish, at one of the farmer's markets. For a measly $12.50, you can buy 8 oz. of cooked cleaned very fresh crabmeat, which makes two *very* generous crab cocktails. When you think about it, it isn't that much of a splurge. Steve |
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Manda Ruby > wrote:
>On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: [cleaning a crab] >> (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply >> I can dig those up.) >Yes, I do. Otherise, I'll end up using a hammer. Rinse off the cooked crab. Twist and pull off each claw. With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell (the carapace). Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, and small paddles. Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the crab and discard. You now have pieces -- claws and body -- that can be rinsed again, cracked, their meat pulled out and eaten. Steve |
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On Dec 15, 10:09*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Manda Ruby > wrote: > > >On Dec 15, 6:27*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > > [cleaning a crab] > > >> (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply > >> I can dig those up.) > >Yes, I do. Otherise, I'll end up using a hammer. > > Rinse off the cooked crab. *Twist and pull off each claw. > With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate > from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell > (the carapace). *Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, > and small paddles. *Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the > crab and discard. > > You now have pieces -- claws and body -- that can be rinsed > again, cracked, their meat pulled out and eaten. > > Steve Thanks. x x x x x |
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![]() "Manda Ruby" > wrote in message ... >I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? > > Crack it, remove the tomally, very gently wrap the exposed body meat with foil. Let it warm to room temp. Then gently warm on a gas grill at a very low temp. This makes cracking the remaining shells much easier. Eat it with drawn butter as you would lobster. We steam live crab and eat it the same way. Don't steam or boil already cooked crab. It leaches the flavor. As all have said above, most dungeness is eaten chilled, although it certainly doesn't have to be. It's actually better warm, especially if you begin with a live crab. Kent |
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![]() "Steve Pope" > wrote in message ... > Manda Ruby > wrote: > >>On Dec 15, 6:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > > [cleaning a crab] > >>> (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply >>> I can dig those up.) > >>Yes, I do. Otherise, I'll end up using a hammer. > > Rinse off the cooked crab. Twist and pull off each claw. > With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate > from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell > (the carapace). Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, > and small paddles. Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the > crab and discard. > > You now have pieces -- claws and body -- that can be rinsed > again, cracked, their meat pulled out and eaten. > > Steve > > At this point, you can wrap exposed body meat with foil, and warm gently to serving temp. We do it on a low temp gas grill. Crack remaining shell at the table, dip crab meat in drawn butter and smile after the first swallow. Always, always, save the skeleton skeleton, to make crab stock for your crab newberg. Make it right away and freeze it. We just had our first newberg of the season. The crab stock makes the dish. Kent |
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On Dec 16, 4:56*am, "Kent" > wrote:
> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message > > ... > > > > > Manda Ruby > wrote: > > >>On Dec 15, 6:27 pm, (Steve Pope) wrote: > > > [cleaning a crab] > > >>> (If you need instructions on how to do this most simply > >>> I can dig those up.) > > >>Yes, I do. Otherise, I'll end up using a hammer. > > > Rinse off the cooked crab. *Twist and pull off each claw. > > With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate > > from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell > > (the carapace). *Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, > > and small paddles. *Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the > > crab and discard. > > > You now have pieces -- claws and body -- that can be rinsed > > again, cracked, their meat pulled out and eaten. > > > Steve > > At this point, you can wrap exposed body meat with foil, and warm gently to > serving temp. We do it on a low temp gas grill. Crack remaining shell at the > table, dip crab meat in drawn butter and smile after the first swallow. > > Always, always, save the skeleton skeleton, to make crab stock for your crab > newberg. Make it right away and freeze it. We just had our first newberg of > the season. The crab stock makes the dish. Thanks for the info. I like my food warm. Whenever I buy those specialty sandwich in grocery stores, I asked them to heat the meat and bread and they do it. I'd be happy to eat the remaining crab at room temp since it seems so much work to warm it. The one I ate was almost at room temperature and so half way through, I just waited and went back to it. > > Kent- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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On 2009-12-16, sf > wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:37:52 +0000 (UTC), > (Steve Pope) wrote: > >>sf > wrote: >> >>> ![]() >>>isn't worth the cost. >> >>Hie ye to Hudson Fish, at one of the farmer's markets. For >>a measly $12.50, you can buy 8 oz. of cooked cleaned very fresh >>crabmeat, which makes two *very* generous crab cocktails. >>When you think about it, it isn't that much of a splurge. >> > You're right, I should. A $20+ per pound for picked and cleaned crab > price keeps my hand firmly on my wallet, but I should let it go. It's not a very steep price for ONE FULL POUND of p/c crab. Buy a bottle of Mumm's brut (get French, the CA stuff sucks!) and a loaf of good sourdough and you can pig out like a freakin' king for under $50. Pretty damn cheap, in my opinion. If I could even get my hands on such a deal, I'd pay $70 and consider myself lucky. It'd be my xmas present to myself. ![]() nb |
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On 2009-12-16, Duwop > wrote:
> You'd need a time machine for $2/lb crab, with diesel costs as high as > they are you're looking at $5/lb, live or cooked. Been pretty steady > the last few years. Have priced HMBay docks, asian markets, etc. > they're all within $1 of each other. Wow! I forgot about price of fuel for crab boats, which are an incredibly inefficient use us motor power. No doubt it has impacted crab prices, despite diesel fuel back to near sane price levels. I used to love going to Pillar Point and buying off the boat after a couple martinis and bbq oysters at the PP Harbor Bar. Jes over 2 yrs ago, it was $3.50lb for live crab. I'd say $5lb is not at all out of line. Buying fresh and boiling your own is, of course, awesome. Plus, it was always a nice day trip to the coast. In the Summer, great buys on produce. Strawberries at San Gregorio, Ollalie berries a few miles south of there, artichokes everywhere.... Damn, I need to take a trip this Summer! ![]() nb |
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On 2009-12-16, Sqwertz > wrote:
> Here in Austin it's a mere $10/lb. > > Which is why I haven't had it for close to a decade. You need to find a CA bbq freak and do some trading. Crab for brisket, which is typically $3-4lb in CA. nb |
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On 2009-12-16, sf > wrote:
> Only the great unwashed would reheat dungeness. Even freshly cooked > (in your house) dungeness crab is at room temperature when it's eaten. The "great unwashed" created one of the greatest hot dishes on Earth from dungeness crab.... CIOPPINO!! Wanna killer and quick use for crab? Go down to Trader Joe's, buy their cioppino meal (1 per person, still $5!) and bring home. Get a good red wine (CA zinfandel), a loaf of SF sourdough, and take your dungeness crab and add to the TJ cioppino meal kit. TJs cioppino sauce is one of the best things TJ has. It's better than most SF restaurants. They also sell the sauce separately in jars. If you have no TJs, you life is poorer for it, as is mine. ;( / ![]() nb |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:32:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2009-12-16, sf > wrote: > >> Only the great unwashed would reheat dungeness. Even freshly cooked >> (in your house) dungeness crab is at room temperature when it's eaten. > >The "great unwashed" created one of the greatest hot dishes on Earth >from dungeness crab.... CIOPPINO!! > >Wanna killer and quick use for crab? Go down to Trader Joe's, buy >their cioppino meal (1 per person, still $5!) and bring home. Get a >good red wine (CA zinfandel), a loaf of SF sourdough, and take your >dungeness crab and add to the TJ cioppino meal kit. TJs cioppino >sauce is one of the best things TJ has. It's better than most SF >restaurants. They also sell the sauce separately in jars. If you >have no TJs, you life is poorer for it, as is mine. ;( / ![]() > >nb -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:32:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2009-12-16, sf > wrote: > >> Only the great unwashed would reheat dungeness. Even freshly cooked >> (in your house) dungeness crab is at room temperature when it's eaten. > >The "great unwashed" created one of the greatest hot dishes on Earth >from dungeness crab.... CIOPPINO!! > >Wanna killer and quick use for crab? Go down to Trader Joe's, buy >their cioppino meal (1 per person, still $5!) and bring home. Get a >good red wine (CA zinfandel), a loaf of SF sourdough, and take your >dungeness crab and add to the TJ cioppino meal kit. TJs cioppino >sauce is one of the best things TJ has. It's better than most SF >restaurants. They also sell the sauce separately in jars. If you >have no TJs, you life is poorer for it, as is mine. ;( / ![]() > OK, you got me although we don't make cioppino with "used" crab. Didn't even think about it because I don't do shells. Bivalves are bad enough, crab is pure torture. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:32:25 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>Wanna killer and quick use for crab? Go down to Trader Joe's, buy >their cioppino meal (1 per person, still $5!) and bring home. Get a >good red wine (CA zinfandel), a loaf of SF sourdough, and take your >dungeness crab and add to the TJ cioppino meal kit. Do you add it still in shell, or crabmeat? I suppose either would work... Steve |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:56:52 -0800, Kent wrote: > >> At this point, you can wrap exposed body meat with foil, and warm gently >> to >> serving temp. We do it on a low temp gas grill. > > I would ask what the point is in using a grill if it's wrapped in > foil, but some of us know better than to ask Kent logical > questions. > > -sw > > You wrap foil at the body end of the leg only where body meat is sticking out. The leg and claw go onto the grate to directly to heat what's inside and to stiffen the remaining shell a bit. Kent |
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On Dec 16, 3:16*am, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:55:44 -0800, sf wrote: > > Oh, stop yer killing me. *What's a good price for dungeness now? > > Here in Austin it's a mere $10/lb. > > Which is why I haven't had it for close to a decade. > > -sw Ya know, even at that price I'd have it once a year. Even knowing that it's been frozen too. Okay, I'd get it once a year hoping the batch I got didn't suck from the freezing process. Two years ago we made the mistake (false advertising) of buying thawed dungeness crab for company and it was, not so good. It can be decent, but where we live we can be picky about that. Fresh dungeness, second to fresh wild Pacific salmon for my favorites from the ocean. Ever grilled a freshly caught salmon? Mmmmmm. |
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On Dec 16, 8:20*am, notbob > wrote:
> great buys on produce. *Strawberries at San Gregorio, The same old guy is still there. I assume you're talking about the farm about a mile inland from Hwy1 up 82. Ollalie berries > a few miles south of there, artichokes everywhere.... * Damn, I need to > take a trip this Summer! * ![]() > Yes, yes you do! Gimme a shout, you bring the produce and I'll grill or bbq us up something. |
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![]() "Steve Pope" > wrote in message ... .. > > Rinse off the cooked crab. Twist and pull off each claw. > With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate > from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell > (the carapace). Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, > and small paddles. Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the > crab and discard. This description is exactly why I don't like whole crabs. I will sit and pick them at crab feasts (I live in Maryland, so they're going on most of the summer) but I won't eat them. I only like claws. |
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Cheryl > wrote:
>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message >> Rinse off the cooked crab. Twist and pull off each claw. >> With the tip of the knife, remove/discard the small triangular plate >> from the body, and pull off and discard the entire back shell >> (the carapace). Remove/discard any gills, spongey parts, bladders, >> and small paddles. Rinse and/or pull the guts out of the >> crab and discard. >This description is exactly why I don't like whole crabs. I will sit and >pick them at crab feasts (I live in Maryland, so they're going on most of >the summer) but I won't eat them. I only like claws. The above was with respect to Dungeness. They are different from Maryland crabs, and actually the Dungeness body meat is better (I think) than the claw meat. Steve |
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On Dec 17, 7:24*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Cheryl > wrote: > The above was with respect to Dungeness. *They are different > from Maryland crabs, Just a tad. Kinda like the difference between pot roast and a good ribeye. Both are good, but to different degrees. |
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When we bother reheating the Dungeness my husband cooks, we use a
large pot with a vegetable steamer and steam the crab pieces until they're warm enough to eat. Lately, though, he's been happy with refrigerated crab. When I first met him over 20 years ago he couldn't eat crab without dipping it in butter. We've been picking up live crab from 99 Ranch Market on Willow Pass in Concord. My husband cooks it outdoors in a giant canning kettle using Penzey's Shrimp and Crab Boil. We do NOT salt the water. The last batch of crab we picked up (20 in all) was purchased for $2.99 a pound at 99 Ranch Market. Hmmm...that sounds like it would be a terrific Christmas Eve dinner. I need to send him out for fresh crab on Thursday. Friday's dinner will be pheasant on the smoker, "marinated" overnight in Texas Wild BBQ rub and then covered in bacon and smoked. According to one of my husband's friends, it's the best pheasant he's ever had. On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:21:21 -0800 (PST), Manda Ruby > wrote: >I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? |
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:59:34 -0800, Linda >
wrote: >The last >batch of crab we picked up (20 in all) was purchased for $2.99 a pound >at 99 Ranch Market. YAY! That's my price point. I'll take a look at Ranch 99 over here in Daly City. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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>, Manda Ruby > wrote: > I just bought some cooked dungeness crab. How do I warm/heat them? Cold crab is great with a mustard-cream sauce. I grew up in South Florida, and this was the preferred way to eat Stone Crabs. It works for Dungeness, too. Here's the recipe: http://www.post-gazette.com/food/200...tonecraba4.asp Alton Brown recommends steaming as the preferred way to reheat pre-cooked crab, and claims that baking is likely to dry out the meat. I've done it both ways, with good results. http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Season7/Crab/Crabs.htm -- Julian Vrieslander |
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